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    12 year old on trial in death of 5 week old cousin.

    The only way five-week-old Millan Young could have been so badly injured was if the infant was shaken and slammed against a hard surface, the Cobb medical examiner testified Thursday.

    The 12-year-old boy charged with the death of his infant cousin will learn Friday if he will be found guilty of murder in Cobb County Juvenile Court.

    Under Georgia law, the maximum sentence the boy faces is prison until he turns 21, prosecutors said.

    On Thursday afternoon, the sixth grader decided not to testify at his own trial.

    "I wish to remain silent," the boy told Judge Gregory Poole. The AJC is not naming the boy, in accordance with a special court order that allows unusual access to a juvenile proceeding.

    The baby's mother, Brittiany Young of Kennesaw, said she left her infant daughter alone in the car with the boy while she went into a Target store in Marietta on July 4. She returned to the car to find her baby unresponsive, she said.

    An autopsy showed the baby died of blunt force trauma to the head.

    "The manner of death, I believe it was a homicide. These injuries were not the result of an accident and the child obviously did not cause the injuries to herself," testified Dr. Brian Frist, Cobb's chief medical examiner.

    On Thursday, the judge listened to doctors and the medical examiner detail the baby’s injuries – bruises all over her 6.9-pound body, multiple skull fractures and bleeding in her brain.

    The injuries show the baby was struck against a hard surface, such as the car console or window, Frist said. He demonstrated the way the baby could have been struck by banging a doll against the witness stand.

    The trauma could not have been caused by a fall from a changing table or any other accident because the fractures were on both sides of the skull, the medical examiner testified. The baby also had bleeding behind her eyes showing she had been shaken.

    Late Thursday, the judge reviewed the medical examiner's photographs of the bruising and hemorrhaging in the baby's head. The boy's mother, Camille Curtis, covered her son's eyes so he would not see the photographs. The judge had ordered Curtis to sit next to the boy after he was caught dozing off twice during doctors’ testimony.

    The boy’s attorney, Derek Wright, questioned the medical examiner about the possibility that the baby's injuries could have happened at home.

    But the medical examiner insisted the injuries must have been recent and occurred in the car.

    “If the child was alert and itself when the mother left the vehicle, and unresponsive when the mother returned, I know the child was struck in the vehicle,” Frist said. “This is what happened. It struck a hard surface.”

    On Thursday morning, doctors testified that the baby arrived at Wellstar Kennestone Hospital’s emergency room with swelling around her face and lips. Tests showed she was bleeding between the second and third layer of the brain.

    "In a baby that age, that is an absolute indicator of non-accidental trauma,” testified Dr. Mark Brown, a pediatric physician at Kennestone.

    Other than the head trauma, Millan Young was a “fairly well developed” baby and had no signs of illness, Brown said.

    In a taped interview with police, the boy said he tried to comfort the crying baby by giving her pacifier and a bottle. He later said the baby started choking so he took her out of the car seat. That's when he dropped her, the boy said.

    The boy’s mother said it was an accident.

    The boy – who gets As and Bs and has no medical problems – is from Tampa. He was visiting his family at the time of the incident, his mom said.

    He is being held at a group home in DeKalb County, where he is able to attend school. He was originally held at the Cobb County Regional Youth Detention Center.
    http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/1212-ye...rss_news_81960

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    Creepy little boy IMO. He dozed off during the trial multiple times? And I think most kids of that age would be freaking out and running to get help if they dropped a baby of that size; I know my daughter is extra careful with babies and treats them like they're made of bubbles. Of course it's a little different if you're used to babies, but I still think the kid's behavior sounds much more homicidal than innocent.

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    Knee jerk reaction of the day: How long did she leave a 6th grader in charge of a 5 week old while she shopped?
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    I think this kid suffers from the "I'm a minor so I can't really get in trouble disease". That way of thinking emboldens most youngsters to think that they can get away with a lot of shit. He dozed off. In court. WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undeniable Truth View Post
    Knee jerk reaction of the day: How long did she leave a 6th grader in charge of a 5 week old while she shopped?
    In general, this doesn't bother me--I have a good friend who has a 2-year-old, born when her other daughter was 12. The older sister was absolutely wonderful with the baby and things like watching her in the car for a bit would not have worried me or anyone. However, I'm wondering how much this particular kid exhibited in terms of symptoms before hand.

    I have a very small family--my daughter is the last and seeming to be the only kid in it so I'm not as familiar with kids (next oldest one to her is 20 now), but I would have problems leaving my itty-bitty baby with a kid who seems weird. And perhaps it's just wishful thinking, but I think that a kid who could do this would exhibit SOME sort of strange sign. That's where I'm wondering how long she was gone. I'm not ready to crucify her yet, since I don't think that anyone wants to really think that a kid, even a weird one, would kill an infant, and I know she's probably killing herself a little more every day over this mistake, but I am curious as to how long they were alone too.

    Quote Originally Posted by backlash View Post
    I think this kid suffers from the "I'm a minor so I can't really get in trouble disease". That way of thinking emboldens most youngsters to think that they can get away with a lot of shit. He dozed off. In court. WTF?
    EXACTLY. Thing is that most kids aren't thinking about murder, and IMO that's saying a lot about a kid who is probably very mentally ill. If anything, it's usually about stealing something that they want.

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    This story is just sad all the way around. Many lives are ruined or changed forever. I personally would not make the choice to leave any juvenile in charge of a 5 weeks old, and unfortunately this is a choice that mother is going to rethink the rest of her life.
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    So they are going on the mother's word that the baby was OK when she left the car or did the boy say this also? From what I read they determined that the boy hurt the baby only because the mother said she was fine when she went into the store. I know I'm quick to blame parents but what if this mother is using the boy as her scapegoat.

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    Good point, but I think they're also basing it on the fact that the kid told her he dropped the baby. I wondered the same thing, because it seemed like a little odd testimony when the doctor was referring to her statements as a fact of how he figured the timing of the injury. But apparently the kid admitted to doing SOMETHING, and perhaps the mother didn't realize right away that the injuries were more serious than just dropping her in the care--head injuries can be deceptive.

    Interesting though, and I wonder if there IS more to the story, but his claim of dropping her makes me less sure about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undeniable Truth View Post
    Knee jerk reaction of the day: How long did she leave a 6th grader in charge of a 5 week old while she shopped?
    That was my first reaction as well. Then I started thinking about it and remembered that I was 12 when I first started babysitting the neighbor's kids. I would watch an infant and two other kids by myself for hours. I think it just depends, like most things, on the individual. I'm with Scribble...I wonder if he had shown signs of being "off" before. Either way, my heart breaks for the families that have been broken due to this little baby's death.

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    I wonder what the boy's demeanor was when the mom returned. Was he panicked? Was he calm? Did he immediately say, "omg I dropped your kid!"? Did he let her discover something was wrong before saying something?

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    This kid is maniacal and they should be looking a great deal deeper than his As and Bs. If he can remain comfortable enough to fall asleep during testimony-which affects the rest of his life-than he has a whole bunch more going on inside that little diabolical brain. The little fucker killed a 5 month old baby by swinging her around a closed car-then casually put her back in her seat and waited for the mother to come back-like nothing ever happened! He's fucking warped!

    That stupid mother-has she never seen movies like Orphan and the Omen? Evil kids are evil kids-and when they start young, they are probably more likely to continue that evil pattern as an adult. I bet htat kid has killed random animals and shit when no one was looking. Where's Athena? She could undoubtedly confirm any such statistic. At any rate, him seeing those pics might not have been such a good idea anyway-he might have gotten pleasure out of seeing his handy work. It's good she covered his eyes.

    Wake up lady-yuor son is doomed to be a fucking serial killer one day!

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    Orphan wasn't about a real child (Just for the record)

    The mother needs to be held responsible depending on how long she left the 12 year old with a month old baby.

    Also, that is a lot of damage to a baby to be done by the 12 year old... Kinda suspicious to me..

    Lastly... Of course he's falling asleep. He is too young to have a true concept of the issue.

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    Why leave ANY kid of ANY age sitting in a car in Georgia on a summer day? Was the mom shopping , returning an item or just running in for diapers or something similar. It can take ten minutes to hike the parking lots of most huge stores these days, not to mention the time it takes to navigate the store itself.

    I can totally see a 12 y/o falling asleep during testimony though, especially a doctor's. I'm sure the kid couldn't follow a word the doctor was saying and found it boring.

    All I really understand about this story is that a 5 week old baby died.

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    I think he is a sicko. He doesn't care, nor has he shown any remorse - falling asleep during the trial...smack him upside the head already.

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    My 12 year old wouldn't have the patience to sit through a trial like that. She hardly understands (and sat through) me explaining how her child support was spent. They aren't capable of understanding the full ramnifications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImmortalOne View Post
    Orphan wasn't about a real child (Just for the record)

    The mother needs to be held responsible depending on how long she left the 12 year old with a month old baby.

    Also, that is a lot of damage to a baby to be done by the 12 year old... Kinda suspicious to me..

    Lastly... Of course he's falling asleep. He is too young to have a true concept of the issue.
    I didn't see Orphan, I just know the preface based on the previews - not my kind of flick. It was the aunt that left him with the baby and the mother is in total denial about what ther child did...and furthermore, it they want to use the fact that the kid has all As and Bs, then that tells me that he is plenty old enough and inteligent enough, to comprehend the concept of the issue.

    You may be right about all of those things you countered me on, but I am just elaborating on what the story says.

    I'm just sayin...

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    There is absolutley no good reason to leave an infant in your car. Theres this great invention called a shopping cart and you know what i personally know they work great for putting infant carseats in!!!!

    Blame the 12 year old of course he is old enough to know better absolutley, but the reality of it is that is was moms decision. She did this by being too damn lazy to take her baby insde the store. If you dont want to take your kids with you dont have any kids plain and simple.

    There should be 2 defendants at this trial not one. just one womans opinon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggysmommy View Post
    I didn't see Orphan, I just know the preface based on the previews - not my kind of flick. It was the aunt that left him with the baby and the mother is in total denial about what ther child did...and furthermore, it they want to use the fact that the kid has all As and Bs, then that tells me that he is plenty old enough and inteligent enough, to comprehend the concept of the issue.

    You may be right about all of those things you countered me on, but I am just elaborating on what the story says.

    I'm just sayin...

    I am going off my own children, my brothers and the other kids I have seen. There are 14+ year olds who don't have a concept of what is going on or aren't mature enough to understand the cause and effect. At 12 years old... They may understand that death happens. But I highly doubt that he knew that a 5 week old baby was that fragile. I also highl doubt that until now he didn't think much beyond getting into the cookie jar, racing his bike around the neighborhood, etc. There is still an innocence with 12 years old.

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    where could he have dropped her? on the seat? onto the flooboard? unless she was dropped directly on her head to the floorboard? but thats like what? a foot and a half? two feet? i just don't understand the dropping story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mommacrazy30 View Post
    where could he have dropped her? on the seat? onto the flooboard? unless she was dropped directly on her head to the floorboard? but thats like what? a foot and a half? two feet? i just don't understand the dropping story.
    He's 12... I'm surprised he didn't say "I don't know" a million times first... or maybe he did and they didn't report that.

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    MARIETTA, Ga. -- A Georgia judge has found a 12-year-old Tampa, Fla., boy not guilty of killing his baby cousin.

    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that Cobb County Juvenile Court Judge Gregory Poole on Friday ruled that the sixth-grade boy did not mean for 5-month-old Millan Young to die, finding him not guilty of murder and cruelty to children. Poole found the boy guilty of two counts of battery.
    The baby's mother, Brittiany Young of Kennesaw, had left the baby in the car with the boy for about 20 minutes on July 4 while she shopped. The baby was unresponsive when she got back.

    Prosecutors say the boy tried to quiet the crying baby by shoving a pacifier forcefully into her mouth, tearing the tissue above her lips. When she wouldn't stop, he shook her and slammed her head against a hard surface in the car.

    An autopsy showed the 6.9-pound baby died of blunt force trauma to the head.

    Poole encouraged the boy's family to get him therapy.
    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/flor...y/1377669.html
    Mom testified Wednesday;
    Brittiany Young returned to her car in a Target parking lot and put it in reverse. That's when she noticed the swollen mouth of her 5-week-old daughter, Millan.

    Young put the car in park and turned to her cousin, a 12-year-old Tampa boy she had left alone with the baby.

    "What did you do?" she asked. "What did you do to her?"
    According to court testimony, the 22-year-old mother left the keys in the ignition and the air conditioning on as she shopped at the store for 18 minutes. When Young returned, the boy was playing on his cell phone in the back seat. The radio was turned louder. And the infant was not responsive.
    http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...murder/1057496

    Brittiany Young, 22 Mom of Millan Young
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    The boy’s mother said it was an accident.
    <sarcasm>She was there?</endsarcasm>




    That sentence tells us all about how and why this happened. That boy has never been held responsible for any of his actions. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImmortalOne View Post
    Orphan wasn't about a real child (Just for the record)

    The mother needs to be held responsible depending on how long she left the 12 year old with a month old baby.

    Also, that is a lot of damage to a baby to be done by the 12 year old... Kinda suspicious to me..

    Lastly... Of course he's falling asleep. He is too young to have a true concept of the issue.
    Omen wasn't about a real child either lol . I watched "Boy A" and found myself feeling sorry for the evil wee bastards it was about . I had to remind myself that they tortured and killed a toddler , then I just wanted both of them put down . They were only 10 years old when they murdered Jamie Bulger , of course Britain gave them new lives and identities when they'd finished with their "summer camp" like imprisonment .
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    So the boy was found not guilty of murder? I'm sorry but it really seems like he deserves to be locked up. I hope he's not just locked up for 6 months in juvenile. I have never left my daughter alone in the car not even for a second because I'm overly paranoid. But I don't really judge people who do, as long as they are quick and can see the car. I have a 2yr old though. My mother was crazy protective to the very extreme but by the time I was that age I would be left in the car because cu that age a child can get out if they need too and not wonder off. If I had a 12 yr old and a younger child I could see doing that but not with some one else's child except perhaps my brother's daughter. I don't know, it would also depend on the child but I don't think I would leave an infant still, just incase.
    Better safe than sorry. An extra couple me minutes getting in and out isn't worth my child's life. But I'm not going to tell someone else not to, i've seen it all the time my whole life and really these things rarely happen. I just worry too much myself.

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    No no, Orphan was about a woman who was posing as a kid (lol sorry if you haven't seen it yet) - not a child. I was trying to not ruin it.

    And 18 minutes of shopping... Yeah ... again... WHY isn't mom being prosecuted?

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    Anyone ever read about Mary Bell? From the UK? She was ten years old, they sent her to prison for killing two three year olds, just google Mary Bell, a serial killer in the making. Beautiful girl but she was evil, she did get out of prison at twenty-three years old and had a child of her own!! The psychologists blamed the mother, said her mother had munchausens!! Creeeepy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadeaBecBec View Post
    This is all fucked up IMO. The judge "encouraged" the family to get him counseling??? I am assuming that means that there won't even be any real court-ordered counseling and he'll be free in a very short time. He should be locked up as long as they can keep him and forget encouraging, ORDER teh counseling because this kid needs it.

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    the pic of mama makes me want to cry :(
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    I would say that a 12 year old is old enough to understand that striking, shaking and slamming a wee baby into a hard surface would bring great harm, or even death. Does he fully understand the concept of death? Perhaps only from video games and movies, but the idea is simple. You hurt someone bad enough, one will die and that's the end. No do overs like a video game. I would think the gravity of his actions and the consequences would be one thing he might not entirely grasp, but grave harm, I think he knew he was hurting baby girl, I think he knew and didn't care.

    This really bothers me.
    According to court testimony, the 22-year-old mother left the keys in the ignition and the air conditioning on as she shopped at the store for 18 minutes. When Young returned, the boy was playing on his cell phone in the back seat. The radio was turned louder. And the infant was not responsive.
    This boy couldn't take not even 20: with baby girl. If baby was really upset, flipping out, why didn't he go get his mother? I did that as I was left to care for my siblings alone, often in the car as they shopped for grocers up to an hour. I marched right in with the siblings and screaming baby asked that my mother be found. I was afraid on what my dad might say/do but did it anyway. I was all of 11 years old.

    The evidence by the medical examiner puts the injuries at the time in the car with this kid. So mother gets back and he's kickin' it with his cell phone and music blaring, with not so much as a care for what he just did. This boy knows he did very wrong and is getting away with it. Murder to be exact. Counseling is NOT justice! I'm not saying he should be necessarily be tried as an adult but a slap on the hand is a joke! The mother is in complete denial. The day will come and it will hit her hard, she'd hope she hadn't agreed this was just an accident.

    Who's to stand-up and protect the memory of baby Millan? and what of justice? who's going to make certain she gets that? apparently no one. Not a damn soul including the woman who until her dying breath was to protect her.

    So sorry baby Millan, you deserved to be protected and cherished in life and honored in death. May an angel protect you always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silvahalo68 View Post
    I would say that a 12 year old is old enough to understand that striking, shaking and slamming a wee baby into a hard surface would bring great harm, or even death. Does he fully understand the concept of death? Perhaps only from video games and movies, but the idea is simple. You hurt someone bad enough, one will die and that's the end. No do overs like a video game. I would think the gravity of his actions and the consequences would be one thing he might not entirely grasp, but grave harm, I think he knew he was hurting baby girl, I think he knew and didn't care.

    This really bothers me.
    This boy couldn't take not even 20: with baby girl. If baby was really upset, flipping out, why didn't he go get his mother? I did that as I was left to care for my siblings alone, often in the car as they shopped for grocers up to an hour. I marched right in with the siblings and screaming baby asked that my mother be found. I was afraid on what my dad might say/do but did it anyway. I was all of 11 years old.

    The evidence by the medical examiner puts the injuries at the time in the car with this kid. So mother gets back and he's kickin' it with his cell phone and music blaring, with not so much as a care for what he just did. This boy knows he did very wrong and is getting away with it. Murder to be exact. Counseling is NOT justice! I'm not saying he should be necessarily be tried as an adult but a slap on the hand is a joke! The mother is in complete denial. The day will come and it will hit her hard, she'd hope she hadn't agreed this was just an accident.

    Who's to stand-up and protect the memory of baby Millan? and what of justice? who's going to make certain she gets that? apparently no one. Not a damn soul including the woman who until her dying breath was to protect her.

    So sorry baby Millan, you deserved to be protected and cherished in life and honored in death. May an angel protect you always.
    True on EVERY level, silva.

    The thing that gets to me in cases like this is that I can almost understand younger children not understanding an action would hurt someone else too badly, but if that occurs, most "normal" kids would immediately be devastated with the consequences.

    So let's say the kid never heard of SBS, and shakes the baby too hard. Even if not understanding the danger, the consequences would terrify a normal kid, which is a true manslaughter IMO--actions resulting in death without prior plan or even knowledge of the danger. Not only did he shake the baby, but hit her apparently very hard. If my daughter was playing or taking care of a baby and the baby hit his/her head, she'd panic and run to find help. But this kid laid back and turned the radio up and played with his phone? The kid is dangerous and will only be more dangerous by getting away with this. His mother sure as hell is not going to take responsibility--she's too busy trying to erase his guilt now. This kid is going to grow up and become even more dangerous.

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