15yr old Holly Grogan bullied. Jumps to her death from bridge.

**Marv** · September 18th, 2009, 04:01 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...busy-road.html

A bullied teenager has jumped from a bridge to her death on a dual carriageway.

Holly Grogan fell 40ft on to the A40 and where she suffered multiple injuries.

Tributes left on social networking sites yesterday suggest the 15-year-old, who attended a private Catholic school, had been targeted by bullies.
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Holly, who lived with her family in Cheltenham, was found under a nearby bridge on the main road at around 11pm on Wednesday. Her body was identified by her father Stephen, a 45-year-old builder.
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A friend writing under the name Elise said: 'I hope that the bullies are feeling guilty and realise what they have done. Not a hope in hell, Elise. They no doubt feel extremely proud of what they have achieved. Bastards.
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Yesterday an anonymous motorist left a note and flowers above the spot where Holly died apologising for not stopping the cars in time to save her.

The note read: 'So sorry whatever problems you had came to this. I tried my hardest to stop the cars, so sorry I failed. Such a waste.'

Holly Grogan died after falling 40ft onto a dual-carriageway where she was run over by passing traffic.

''Her body was identified by her father Stephen'' How utterly awful for him to have to do this. I can't imagine how I would cope, having to go and identify my childs body in a morgue. And all because a few brainless idiots took it upon themselves to single this girl out and make her life hell.

Bullies should all be removed from their schools, families and communities, and placed in a boarding school type institution. Dump them all in there together and let them bully each other to their hearts content. Let them be on the receiving end for a change, and feel what its like.

**Abroad** · September 18th, 2009, 04:08 PM

Let them be on the receiving end for a change, and feel what its like.

For a change?

Most bullies are bullied, or have been bullied. They often see bullying as the only way to guarantee that the bullying will be directed at someone else for the moment. I was bullied at school and I know I did things to others in turn that can only be described as bullying, even if it took a socially slightly more acceptable form. I am anything but proud if it, but I needed to face it eventually.

**Just my luck sucks** · September 18th, 2009, 04:25 PM

I'm sorry the girl was bullied. I'm sorry she thought jumping was her only answer.

But, the real problem here is that she thought jumping was the answer. Her parents/teachers/friends should have given her the tools to cope/deal with bullies. The real issue is not only the bullies, but her mental state when she decided death would be her only relief.

**Marv** · September 18th, 2009, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Abroad

For a change?

Most bullies are bullied, or have been bullied. They often see bullying as the only way to guarantee that the bullying will be directed at someone else for the moment. I was bullied at school and I know I did things to others in turn that can only be described as bullying, even if it took a socially slightly more acceptable form. I am anything but proud if it, but I needed to face it eventually.

I was badly bullied in primary school too. Neither of the two girls responsible were 'victims' themselves. One was the 'baby' of the family, the other was an only child. Both were thoroughly spoiled little bitches who probably bullied me because they thought they were precious princesses and untouchable.

I did not become a bully myself, but instead became very quick-tempered in high school, and a 'protector of the under-dog'. I'm still like that now, and am not one to stand by if someone is taking a beating.

My son was having trouble in school too. Again, the ones responsible were not bullied. One comes from a ''not my son'' attitude kind of family, the other is again the cosseted 'baby' of the family.

Not all bullies have been bullied themselves. I don't even think most have. Some are just evil little fuckers who enjoy inflicting misery on others because they think they are special and can get away with anything!

**Pete Bondurant** · September 18th, 2009, 04:56 PM

Some are just evil little fuckers who enjoy inflicting misery on others because they think they are special and can get away with anything!

Your assessment is quite correct, O. Young Pete was quite the terror at Westville Boys' High School and he loved every minute of it.

**Marv** · September 18th, 2009, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Pete Bondurant

Your assessment is quite correct, O. Young Pete was quite the terror at Westville Boys' High School and he loved every minute of it.

Shame we didn't go to the same shool, Pete. I'm sure we would have had lots of fun together. You with your bullying, me with my protecting.

**Marv** · September 20th, 2009, 01:58 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...k-bullies.html

The parents of a 15-year-old public schoolgirl who jumped to her death after being bullied on Facebook have spoken of the ‘huge pressures’ placed on young people by social networking sites.

Holly Grogan died after plunging 30ft from a road bridge near her home on to a dual carriageway where she was hit by passing traffic.

Steve Grogan, 45, and his wife Anita, 44, from Longlevens, Gloucester, said they were ‘devastated’ by the death of their ‘wonderful’ daughter, which followed the posting of dozens of abusive and humiliating messages on her Facebook wall.
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‘Girls used to gang up on her and call her names and she didn’t have anything to say back. She just froze up. They used to leave comments on her Facebook wall, calling her names. They’ve probably all deleted them now.’

Chloe added: ‘I heard that the girls who bullied her at her old school told their friends at her new school to bully her as well and so it just kept on and on.
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St Edward’s head teacher Andrew Nash said the school was in ‘shock’ but he refused to say whether staff had been aware of the bullying.

OK, I'm not too familiar with social networking sites, as I don't have an account with any of them.

But I really can't get my head around this whole 'bullying by facebook' stuff. Can't you just ban abusive people? And if not, why bother having an account with them if idiots are simply using it to bully you from afar? Just shut the account.

Also, can't you see who has left a message without having to actually read the message? If it is someone who is a bully and you know the message is going to be nasty, can't you simply delete it without even bothering to read it?

I really don't understand how anyone can be bullied through these sites.

**Angelinfl** · September 20th, 2009, 05:13 PM

Bullying is just another form of manipulation. There are many ways to manipulate people and some people are just born manipulators... whether it be physical threats as we normally think of a bully but there is a huge psychological component that many have nothing to do with physical threats.

Teenagers are so insecure that who knows what floats their boat and what their big hidden deamons are.

**Rhoni** · September 20th, 2009, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by ohmarvellousme!

I was badly bullied in primary school too. Neither of the two girls responsible were 'victims' themselves. One was the 'baby' of the family, the other was an only child. Both were thoroughly spoiled little bitches who probably bullied me because they thought they were precious princesses and untouchable.

I did not become a bully myself, but instead became very quick-tempered in high school, and a 'protector of the under-dog'. I'm still like that now, and am not one to stand by if someone is taking a beating.

My son was having trouble in school too. Again, the ones responsible were not bullied. One comes from a ''not my son'' attitude kind of family, the other is again the cosseted 'baby' of the family.

Not all bullies have been bullied themselves. I don't even think most have. Some are just evil little fuckers who enjoy inflicting misery on others because they think they are special and can get away with anything!

I too was the protector of the underdog in school...Growing up in Group homes and foster homes I moved around a lot, went to a lot of schools...I had a Lot of built up aggression so I would find the bully of the school and kick their ass..It was a great way to release my aggression and also stop said bully from controlling the other kids any longer..I was once thanked by a Principle believe it or not :)

It may not have been the right thing to do but at the time it felt right I guess in a sense I was a bully myself but I would rather call it vigilantism.. I hated seeing anyone picking on someone weaker...I still do ...

It is sad that someone can feel so bullied they would rather jump off a bridge and end their life than put up with it anymore..I can not even imagine that kind of emotion..

**malq** · September 21st, 2009, 02:05 PM

sad

**Roy** · September 22nd, 2009, 12:05 PM

I was bullied all through grade school. K-12, I was lucky to get a break in 6th grade because I moved to NY for the time being. Whenever I made so-called 'friends', the bullies manipulated them into teasing me and turned them all against me. I went through high school without making friends because of this. Whenever I stood up to them, they bullied me even worse. Whenever I reported them to the dean, they barely did shit about it. To this day, I have a lot of trust issues because of them. I've been in and out of abusive relationships. Those dumbasses couldn't wait till I committed suicide.

My heart goes out to Holly and her family. I hope the bullies will get whats coming to them and then burn in hell.