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    Remains of 3 newborn babies found in house.

    http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/...2534-24596530/


    THE remains of three newborn babies were found by police in a Merseyside house.

    A tip-off in the early hours of last Sunday took officers to the address in Harlow Close, St Helens, where they made the grisly discovery.

    It is thought the three children could have been born as long ago as the mid-1980s, but died very soon after their birth.

    Three people were questioned over the discovery before being released pending further inquiries.

    Acting on the information they had been given, officers went into the Sutton Heath house and quickly found the remains together.

    Detectives said yesterday they could not go public with where in the house the tiny remains were found or what, if anything, they were found in or with.
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    Three people – two women aged 54 and 38 and a 26-year-old man – were questioned over the discovery before being released pending further inquiries.

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    Hmmm 1980's... I say the 38 yr old is the mother... Though that would be a little bit of a stretch... *counts* possible not probable....

    More likely the 54 yr old is likely.

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    I think that if the family currently living in the house was living there when those babies were born and died, then they are likely the 38 year old's babies, and that very likely an adult male figure in the home at the time was the father.

    I mean, isn't that how these things almost always play out? Ugh.

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    My sister lives in St Helens . If anyone read my post about going to England you'd know what a shithole I think it is . She told me about inbreeding going on over there and I thought it was a joke , but apparently it's a well known fact . Women get pregnant after one night stands and the kids are growing up not knowing who may be their brother or sister . Extra fingers and toes and webbing is common . They also hate outsiders , even people from other places on Merseyside .
    The 38 year old is probably the mum , her dad is probably the father of the babies . It's terrible that that's the first thing we think , but it's often true in these cases .
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    Quote Originally Posted by impqueen View Post
    I think that if the family currently living in the house was living there when those babies were born and died, then they are likely the 38 year old's babies, and that very likely an adult male figure in the home at the time was the father.

    I mean, isn't that how these things almost always play out? Ugh.
    Well I was considering that, because I am 34... in the 80's I was 5-10 years old... So that 38 yr old would've been 9-14 years old... Which as I said is possible its her babies... though think of it this way... the 54 yr old... well, and the big gap in ages of the younger "Adults" (If they were here children and not partners etc)... There is just a lot of ways this could go. A lot.

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    So very sad. I wonder what is the truth.
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ies-house.html

    Police investigating the discovery of three dead newborn babies have found the remains of a fourth child after excavating a plot in a graveyard.

    Officers descended on a cemetery at first light on Friday following information that another baby had been buried in a shallow grave next to that of dead relatives of Bernadette Quirk.
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    Police sources said that officers were acting on information that the fourth child's remains could be found next to Mrs Quirk's mother and had been buried just inches below the surface.

    The source said: 'We decided to search the cemetery after learning that a fourth child could have been buried in a shallow grave, just with a trowel, next to the family grandmother.

    'We also know that council gravediggers had already found the remains - as long ago as 2004 - with a teddy bear, but they assumed someone had buried a family pet, such as a rabbit, next to their family grave, they did not realise it was a baby.'

    It was unclear whether this earlier discovery was ever reported to police or acted upon.

    Twice-married Mrs Quirk was arrested along with her 26-year-old son Christopher Quirk, a forklift truck driver, and daughter Joanne Lee, who is also known as Joanne Blackburn, 38, in the early hours of last Sunday.
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    It is not known who alerted police, but officers had visited Miss Lee's home address, a short distance from her mother's house, also in Thatto Heath, following a drunken argument just hours before the remains were found.



    Questioned: Mrs Quirk (right), son Christopher and daughter Joanne were all arrested and have been bailed pending further investigations

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    Okay... so that baby is from 2004.... This case is looking even more horrible than it started... 4 babies... when will the count end?

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    If the gravediggers found it in 2004 and did not realise it was a baby, it was probably buried some years before......



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    This is going to be some story once it all comes to light. Sordid and weird, too, I'll bet, since they've arrested a mother and her two children. I did get that right didn't I?

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    A woman is facing jail after admitting she hid the bodies of four dead babies for up to 25 years.

    Bernadette Quirk, 55, put three of the newborn babies in a plastic bin in her wardrobe, along with an air freshener.

    She carried them to a dozen different addresses as she moved house.

    But they were finally discovered at her home near St Helens, Merseyside, by her daughter Joanne in July last year.

    She found the bodies of twin girls and another girl wrapped in newspaper, sheets and plastic bags in a red plastic bin.

    The body of a fourth girl was found by police at the family burial plot in the local cemetery.

    Quirk pleaded guilty at Liverpool Crown Court yesterday to four charges of concealing a birth of a child. She was warned by Judge Henry Globe QC that she could be jailed.

    The case was adjourned until October 11 for pre-sentence reports and Quirk was given bail.

    The court heard she had given birth to the children between 1985 and 1995 but could not remember specific dates.

    Tests showed all four were full-term but Quirk said they were stillborn. “They did not make any noise and they did not move,” she told police.

    Ian Morris, defending, said: “She describes that period of her life as being chaotic and out of control. She has buried those memories in the back of her mind.”

    He said Quirk could not remember the birth of the fourth child. A forensic anthropologist said all had skeletal abnormalities, failure of the placenta and foetal growth restriction.
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    Police said Quirk told them she had started drinking after her marriage broke up in the mid-1980s and then had a number of sexual partners. She could identify the fathers of babies in the house but not the father of the girl in the cemetery, which she denied knowing about when arrested.

    Detective Constable Neil Bickley, of Merseyside Police, said there was no evidence to charge anyone else over the disposal of the remains.
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