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    Thanks for the maps Whisper, helped to be able to picture what they were talking about, no way a car could accidently get in there...

    These motherfucker planned and plotted for weeks to murder these women, they researched all kinds of ways to get rid of them, their own family, I cant and never will understand this level of hypocrisy, they murdered them because they were according to them "sinning against god and islam" but not to worry, it is OK to scheme and kill them then lie to the police about it... They werent even smart about it, ignition off, no lights, its like Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum planned this...

    More pics of Zainab & Sahar 5 days before their murders...




    Tooba Yayha, you shameful dirty whore, where is your hijab??? I dont get how it was so important these girls wear a hijab to school, where they were probobly ridiculed for doing so but here is this bitch parading around for all to see...

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    Looking at the pictures of the locks and the park area surrounding it, I'm convinced the car didn't end up in there by accident. I can't see a straight or even mildly curving line of travel into it that wouldn't be met with a wall or a stone outcropping. I can't, though, figure out how the car got into the lock while in first gear. If the ignition was off it would have been a very difficult push for the Lexus. That car would have bucked and jumped and torn up turf the whole way. If it was in fact being pushed backward (as I seem to remember), same thing. And why are pieces of the Lexus found on the other side of the stone outcropping? The most direct route into the lock appears to have involved a sharpish turn off the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tundratot View Post
    Looking at the pictures of the locks and the park area surrounding it, I'm convinced the car didn't end up in there by accident. I can't see a straight or even mildly curving line of travel into it that wouldn't be met with a wall or a stone outcropping. I can't, though, figure out how the car got into the lock while in first gear. If the ignition was off it would have been a very difficult push for the Lexus. That car would have bucked and jumped and torn up turf the whole way. If it was in fact being pushed backward (as I seem to remember), same thing. And why are pieces of the Lexus found on the other side of the stone outcropping? The most direct route into the lock appears to have involved a sharpish turn off the road.
    Im still lost as to how it got to where it did with the route given
    These locks are totally diff then the ones where I am from in the Sault
    The ones there are actually like bridges that they raise and lower for the ships to pass through,totally diff layout and design then these ones

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    Mohammad Shafia's police interview played at honour killing trial

    KINGSTON, Ont. — Three hours after police told Mohammad Shafia that his missing daughters likely were dead in a submerged car, he gave an officer a calm, hour-long account of the family's actions in the previous 24 hours.
    "I don't know what has happened," the Montreal businessman said through an interpreter, in an interview with a detective that was videotaped at the Kingston Police station on the afternoon of June 30, 2009. "We woke up in the morning, didn't see the car, didn't see the kids, don't know."
    The interviewer, Det. Const. Geoff Dempster, asked if Shafia had any idea, "a thought" perhaps about what happened.

    Shafia said he had wondered if the missing people drove to Montreal.

    "You know the car, your car, the Nissan, was found underwater?" Dempster asked.

    Shafia acknowledged that the officer already had told him this.

    "Any thoughts, any idea how it got there?" Shafia said no.

    "This is the first time that such a thing happened," he said.

    Dempster began testifying Friday and the videotape was played for jurors at the murder trial of Shafia, 58, his wife Tooba Mohammad Yahya, 41, and their son Hamed, 20. Each is charged with four counts of first-degree murder. They have pleaded not guilty.

    Prosecutors allege that the four victims died in an honour killing staged to look like a tragic car crash into a shallow canal.

    Shafia's interview was conducted through an interpreter because he speaks limited English. The family, originally from Afghanistan, moved to Canada in 2007 and settled in St. Leonard, a borough of Montreal.

    At the time of the interview, police believed — although they were not certain — that four Shafia family members were dead in a car, a Nissan Sentra, found at the bottom of the Rideau Canal at the Kingston Mill locks around 8:30 a.m. that day.

    Later in the day, the bodies of sisters Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, and Geeti, 13, along with Rona Amir Mohammad, 52 — Shafia's first wife — were pulled from the car.

    The father, mother and son had arrived at the Kingston Police station around 12:30 p.m. on June 30 and reported that four family members and their Sentra were missing. Rona was described by Hamed, who speaks English and who filed the report, as his aunt. Police learned later that she was Shafia's first wife.

    Dempster told the trio that he believed the missing people had been found dead. He testified that his next task was to interview them separately.

    Shafia appears relaxed in the video shot by a ceiling-mounted camera in a small interview room. He often gestured with an arm or hand. No emotion was visible.

    He said that the family was driving home from a vacation in Niagara Falls, Ont., and decided to stop at a motel in Kingston around 1 a.m. because his wife was too tired to continue driving. They were turned away from the first motel where they stopped because it was full.

    Shafia knelt on the carpeted floor of the interview room and traced an imaginary straight line to show that the motel where they stayed was on the same road as the first motel.

    As soon as they stopped, Hamed drove on to Montreal, Shafia said, after telling his father he had work to do. The rest of the family went to sleep. Shafia said the Sentra was gone when they awoke the next morning.

    "I just didn't find the kids, that made me worried," Shafia told his interviewer.

    He said that the four missing family members were sleeping in one of two motel rooms together. The remaining family members stayed in the other room.

    Shafia called Hamed in Montreal and asked him to come back to Kingston so they could go to the police station, he told Dempster. Hamed returned in a different vehicle, the family's Pontiac minivan.

    Dempster asked why he didn't drive back in the vehicle that the family had taken to Niagara Falls, a Lexus SUV.

    I don't know why," Shafia said.
    Jurors already have heard that police believe the Lexus was damaged when it was used to push the Sentra over a stone ledge and into the canal. Police found the Lexus in the garage of the Shafia home on July 1 and photographed damage to its front left corner.
    [...]
    http://www.canada.com/news/Mohammad+...#ixzz1c8E0fVn4


    You know I was thinking tonight
    every "Honor Killing" Ive ever read about,the fathers/sons/brothers admit to the killling and say why
    They have always manned up and accepted punishment b/c all in all their honor is restored to the family b/c of it
    these pukes cant even do that right
    Wasnt a "real" honor killing just cold murder(as are all honor killings)

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    I think they usually admit it because in Muslim countries, they get very light sentences and everyone agrees with their action. This family was sophisticated enough to know that wouldn't be the case here.
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    Nobody speaks about Arab or what ever.

    We all talk about the murder of 3 women by a polygamist and his second wife and son.

    When you live in a country you have to respect the law. It is the same for ALL CANADIANS, and all country.

    When you write ''I am flexible'' are you serious???? Who has the right to decide whom have to live and whom have to die. ''Stone him to death'' wow what a lovely idea. Here we say ''Don't do to others what you would'nt want they do to you'' or ''Love your neighbour as yourself''.

    No wonder that war exist whit such a philosophy of life. We are here to lurn to love, to understand, to care for one an other, not to be the police of everybody around. Who are we to decide. This is the job of the justice system, not ours. And thank Goodness that Canada don't have death penalty with the kind of mind that you are showing. What about an error of justice? Too bad he's dead, ups sorry!

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    I have no clue what your attempting to say
    But I do agree you commit a crime in a country you live by their laws
    We all have to learn things but in a case like this I think asking to learn to forgive and forget is a little to much,
    they murdered 4 people
    They deserve everything they have coming at them and actually Id love if they were sentenced by Sharia law,
    they sentenced these women by it why shouldnt they be sentenced by it except here in Canada we cant do that
    Cases like this make me wish we had the DP
    JMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gislaine Carignan View Post
    Nobody speaks about Arab or what ever.

    We all talk about the murder of 3 women by a polygamist and his second wife and son.

    When you live in a country you have to respect the law. It is the same for ALL CANADIANS, and all country.

    When you write ''I am flexible'' are you serious???? Who has the right to decide whom have to live and whom have to die. ''Stone him to death'' wow what a lovely idea. Here we say ''Don't do to others what you would'nt want they do to you'' or ''Love your neighbour as yourself''.

    No wonder that war exist whit such a philosophy of life. We are here to lurn to love, to understand, to care for one an other, not to be the police of everybody around. Who are we to decide. This is the job of the justice system, not ours. And thank Goodness that Canada don't have death penalty with the kind of mind that you are showing. What about an error of justice? Too bad he's dead, ups sorry!

    May the Life help every body to lurn to forgive and forget, to love and not hate, to be kind and open, to care and to share.
    I'm not entirely sure what you are saying here. If anyone here said they are flexible, it would have to be in the context of what sentence to impose -- Life or Death -- since no one on this site has taken up support for the idea of honor killing and, as far as I can remember, no one has suggested that the evidence here suggests someone else did it. The Life or Death question is moot, isn't it, since Canada does not impose the death penalty.

    I think you are suggesting that no one here should be out for blood, death penalty or not. No one here is going to go after the parents and brother of the slain girls and their "aunt" in actuality. We are all incensed over the idea of honor killing, and over the idea that a parent (much less both parents, and a brother, and husband) could think that the adoption of western ideas and mores should constitute a loss of honor or an excuse to kill.

    I'm not about to forgive that. I do not sanction going to war with those countries where this kind of action is considered de rigour, because it's pointless. But I do not sanction people fleeing from those countries bring that utter nonsense with them, that is pointless and unforgivable.
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    Shafia murder trial: Defendant in Shafias' murder trial devoid of emotion in video

    KINGSTON, Ont. – Confronted by a police officer with the suggestion that the deaths of three daughters was not an accident, Tooba Mohammad Yahya appeared devoid of emotion in a video shown Tuesday to jurors in a murder trial.
    “Meaning what?” Yahya responded, through an interpreter, in an interview recorded just hours after police had told her the girls had been found dead in a submerged car.

    “It would mean something happened to cause it,” Kingston police Det.-Const. Geoff Dempster says in the video played Tuesday morning at the trial of the Montreal woman, her husband, Mohammad Shafia, 58, and their 20-year-old son, Hamed, who are accused of murdering four family members in an honour killing. Yahya, 41, repeated several times that she had no idea what happened.
    [...]
    Dempster pressed the woman, telling her that he believed the family was not being truthful.
    “I can’t say something that I don’t know; I can’t tell a lie,” she said, near the end of a calm, hour-long interview.
    Jurors also watched video of two police interviews with Hamed Shafia that day. Police were puzzled about his strange story of driving home from Kingston alone at 2 a.m., only to return later that morning in a different vehicle. He told Dempster he had many small reasons to switch cars. He said he didn’t know what happened to his sisters and his “aunt.” He guessed that his eldest sister, Zainab, took the Sentra without permission and crashed it into the canal.
    Dempster told Hamed he believed he knew more than he was saying.

    I’m telling the truth here,” Hamed replied. “I seriously don’t know what you’re talking about.”

    Jurors have been told that police believe another Shafia family vehicle was used to push the Sentra in the canal to conceal the killing, and that vehicle was damaged in the process. Police later found the family’s Lexus SUV, with front-end damage, inside the garage of their St. Léonard home.
    [...]
    “If I would have witnessed something or caused it, I wouldn’t keep quiet,” Hamed told Dempster in his first interview that day.
    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...#ixzz1cWZ08ilo

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    I havent read through all of this yet so not sure if it hits on their citizenship status
    Ill read more tomorrow when I have time but heres a link to Canadian Immigration on the case






    Polygamist lier Mohammad Shafia and his clan plead not guilty of quadruple first-degree murder
    http://www.cireport.ca/2011/11/polyg...ee-murder.html
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    Lying to infidels is not a sin in Islamic tradition. It's just playing around.
    http://www.islamreview.com/articles/lyingprint.htm
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    Not updated yet I just found this little quip from noon today


    Shafia mother pleads ignorance in police video
    A Montreal woman accused of killing her three daughters and her husband's first wife told police in a videotaped interrogation that she was not aware the father of her children was going to kill their girls.

    The police videotape was shown to a jury in Kingston, Ont., Wednesday, during the canal locks death trial where the woman, her husband and her son face multiple first-degree murder charges.
    [...]
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...-kingston.html

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    This is really good for anyone that needs to catch up or just wants to know what happened when


    Timeline: Shafia family murder trial
    http://www.globaltoronto.com/timelin...727/story.html

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    Shafia murder trial: ‘No, I wasn’t there,’ accused told cops

    KINGSTON, Ont. – Confronted by a police officer with the suggestion that the deaths of her three daughters was not an accident, Tooba Mohammad Yahya appeared devoid of emotion.
    “Meaning what?” she responded, through an interpreter, in an interview recorded just hours after police had told her that the teenage girls had been found in a submerged car.
    It would mean that something happened to cause it,” Det.-Constable Geoff Dempster says, in the video played to jurors Tuesday morning at the trial of the Montreal woman, her husband, Mohammad Shafia, 58, and their 20-year-old son, Hamed, who are accused of murdering four family members in an honour killing.
    The trio was interviewed by police on June 30, 2009, as officers struggled to understand how the family’s Nissan Sentra, carrying four people, ended up at the bottom of the Rideau Canal.
    Dempster pressed the woman, telling her that he believed that the family was not being truthful.
    “I can’t say something that I don’t know; I can’t tell a lie,” she said, near the end of a calm, hour-long interview.
    The mother speculated that her daughter took the family car for a joyride, without permission because she wanted to drive, though she had no licence.
    “She desired a lot,” she told Dempster. “I think she thought, ‘My mom and dad are asleep; let’s go for a drive.’ ”
    The trio now accused of murder had appeared at the police station around 12:30 p.m. on June 30 and reported that four family members and the Sentra were missing. Before they were interviewed by officers, they were told that the sunken car had been found and the family members likely were dead inside it. In their interviews, the three told slight variations on the same story.

    They said that the family was driving home to Montreal from a vacation in Niagara Falls and decided to stop at a motel in Kingston because they were tired. They checked into two rooms at around 1 a.m. Hamed left immediately to drive home to Montreal, while the eldest daughter asked for the keys to the Sentra, ostensibly to retrieve clothes.

    In the morning, the Sentra and four family members were missing.
    Dempster asked the mother if she was at the isolated canal property when the car plunged into the water
    No, no, I wasn’t there,” she replied.
    She said she did not see her daughter drive off after giving her the car keys.
    If I knew (what happened) I would tell you everything,” she said. “I just know that she took the keys from me and … I was very tired and I went to bed.”
    Jurors also watched Dempster press Hamed Shafia to explain his decision to drive back to Montreal alone at 2 a.m. after the family had just arrived in Kingston from a long evening of driving.
    The young man said he had business to do and he wanted to retrieve a laptop from the family’s St. Léonard home.
    In the second interview, Dempster confronted him about hiding an accident he reported to Montreal police around 8 a.m. that morning. Shafia called police to report a collision with a guardrail in a parking lot on Langelier Blvd., blocks from the family’s home.
    “Why are you hiding that information from me, Hamed?” Dempster asked.
    “If I would tell you, you would go tell my dad; that’s uh, that’s the thing,” Shafia answered.
    Prosecutors allege that Hamed staged the collision in Montreal to conceal damage to the Lexus that it suffered when it was used to push the Sentra over a stone ledge into the canal.
    Police found the Lexus in the family’s garage on July 1, with damage to its front driver’s side corner.
    Hamed told Dempster that after he drove to Montreal that morning, he got a call from his father to tell him about the missing family members so he drove back to Kingston in the family’s minivan.
    He said he took that car because it was better on gas.
    Dempster told Hamed he didn’t believe he was telling him the whole story.
    “I’m telling the truth here,” Hamed replied. “I seriously don’t know what you’re talking about.”
    [...]
    Dempster suggested Hamed was driving the Lexus and followed his sister when she drove off in the Sentra.
    “If I would have witnessed something or caused it, I wouldn’t keep quiet,” Hamed told Dempster.
    Jurors also watched the first few minutes of a six-hour videotaped interrogation of the accused mother that was recorded the day she was arrested, July 22, 2009.
    [...]
    http://www.montrealgazette.com/Shafi...#ixzz1cbpbunzu

    An image from a Kingston police department video shows murder suspect Tooba Mohammad Yahya being questioned on June 30, 2009, by Det.-Const. Geoff Dempster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gislaine Carignan View Post
    Nobody speaks about Arab or what ever.

    We all talk about the murder of 3 women by a polygamist and his second wife and son.

    When you live in a country you have to respect the law. It is the same for ALL CANADIANS, and all country.

    When you write ''I am flexible'' are you serious???? Who has the right to decide whom have to live and whom have to die. ''Stone him to death'' wow what a lovely idea. Here we say ''Don't do to others what you would'nt want they do to you'' or ''Love your neighbour as yourself''.

    No wonder that war exist whit such a philosophy of life. We are here to lurn to love, to understand, to care for one an other, not to be the police of everybody around. Who are we to decide. This is the job of the justice system, not ours. And thank Goodness that Canada don't have death penalty with the kind of mind that you are showing. What about an error of justice? Too bad he's dead, ups sorry!

    May the Life help every body to lurn to forgive and forget, to love and not hate, to be kind and open, to care and to share.
    This person made an account and posted for the first time responding to my post on the first page. I must say I am tickled pink to cause such a strong reaction. I am not sure exactly what this person is trying to convey but if she wants to follow the golden rule " Do unto others..." after someone kills her children then by all means, have at it. I stand by my statement stating that the only acceptable justice for these innocent women is the death of their slayer(s). This appears completely premeditated and done in utterly cold blood.

    We are taking about a FATHER plotting and carrying out the deaths of his CHILDREN and Wife. If this were my child I would want blood for her life, by my own hands if necessary. There is no way I would trust the justice system, especially one that coddles murderers, to give retribution if my daughter was killed in cold blood. I would never forget and I would NEVER forgive if someone murdered my child. Maybe you're all highbrow and stuff but not me.

    ETA: hopefully you "lurn" something from this site

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    Shafia trial: Accused mother admits family was at canal
    Bombshell; Made admission during interrogation

    A Montreal woman accused of killing her three teenage daughters acknowledged during a police interrogation that she had been told that her husband wanted to kill one of the girls.
    "Believe me, he had never mentioned about killing them as, 'I want to kill the children,' " Tooba Mohammad Yahya said. "Not all, just her [Zainab]." The 41-year-old woman is on trial, along with her husband Mohammad Shafia, 58, and their son, Hamed, 20, on four counts of first-degree murder. The Afghan immigrants have pleaded not guilty
    [...]
    The accused mother was interrogated by two officers for six consecutive hours. A video recording of the interview was played at the murder trial Wednesday. Court adjourned after roughly five hours of the video had been screened.
    Yahya acknowledged, after three hours of questioning, that her brother had told her, before the deaths, that her husband "wants to kill" Zainab. Jurors already have heard that Shafia was angry that Zainab left home for several weeks and hid in a women's shelter. She also had planned to marry a young Pakistani man.
    The entire interrogation was done in Farsi, a variant of Yahya's native language, Dari. The video played in court was subtitled in English and jurors were given a 215-page transcript.
    The first officer to question Yahya, Constable Azi Sadeghi, handed her a photo album containing snapshots of her children. The woman began to sob as she leafed through the album. At one point, she clutched the album to her face. The officer asked her if she had killed the four victims.
    "Man nakoshtam," she said in her native language.
    "I haven't killed."
    "If you try to be honest and start, you know, talking to me, open your heart," the officer responded.
    "I don't have anything in my heart except the grief of my children; I don't have anything else," Yahya said.
    When the officer left the room for a few minutes, the accused mother continued to weep and muttered several times, "Oh my God."
    As her videotaped sobs filled the courtroom, her husband began to cry in the prisoner's box. Shafia held his hand to his eyes and turned his head, as if he could not bear to watch the video, played on three large monitors.
    Hamed Shafia showed no visible emotion. He stared down at a binder in his lap, which contained the transcript.
    Just more than an hour into the interview, the second officer, Insp. Shahin Mehdizadeh, takes over. The veteran Mountie is a trained interrogator and major crime investigator from British Columbia.
    He appeals to the woman's maternal instincts, asking her to do the right thing for her dead children and tell the truth, as a proper Muslim. For more than four hours, Yahya insists she can't explain how the victims died.
    "Man manifahmam," she is heard saying repeatedly.
    "I don't know." The inspector is relentless, often insisting that the woman is lying. He wrests an admission from her after roughly 4½ hours of questioning.
    Yahya tells the officer that she, her son and husband were at the canal, around 1: 30 in the morning on June 30, when the Nissan went into the water. She said her husband was driving the Sentra and she and her son Hamed were standing near the other vehicle, the family's Lexus SUV.
    "I heard a noise," she said. "Hamed and I heard it. We both ran and we saw that a car was in the water. This car has fallen into the water."
    Yahya said she did not know how the car got into the water.
    "I screamed and fell down," she said, and became "unconscious."
    She awoke later, she said, at a nearby motel, where the family had earlier rented rooms.
    She told the officer that she believed the car was empty when it went into the water. She also explained that before the two cars got to the canal, she had switched places with her husband, so that he took over driving the Sentra.
    "I request you one thing that never tell my husband - that I have said this," Yahya told the inspector.
    Prosecutors allege that the victims died in an honour killing staged to look like a car crash. Jurors have been told that Shafia believed his daughters had shamed him by consorting with boys and dressing in revealing Western clothes. They also have been told that Tooba had sought to cut off Rona from Shafia and spoke dismissively of her role in the family.
    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...#ixzz1cgsAlUE1
    Tooba Mohammad Yahya is one of three Montrealers on trial in Kingston, Ont., on four counts of first-degree murder. All have pleaded not guilty.

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    Wonder who the daughters looked like b/c shes fugly it sure wasnt her

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    Mother in honour killing trial admits she saw car underwater, did nothing

    KINGSTON, Ont. — On the lengthy video police interview now being played for Ontario Superior Court Judge Robert Maranger and a jury, Tooba Mohammad Yahya pressed her face into the pictures of her children, wept, threw back her head and for a long while keened.
    From the prisoner's box, with a full view of her own torment on the screen before her, Yahya also cried from time to time, and once bent over at the waist, her head to the floor, and disappeared from view altogether for about 15 minutes.
    It was distressing, as it always is to hear a person howl in pain — but then, this is Yahya we are describing, and she is no stranger, shall we say, to the theatre arts.
    Indeed, in the first two-thirds of the interview the jurors have seen on video Yahya also occasionally protested that she was tired, weak or sick and that her mind was not stable, flirted with her handsome male interrogator, albeit in a perfectly proper Muslim/Afghan way (it is not unlike Protestant flirting, except with more flowery language), argued with him, disagreed with him and pretty much stood her ground.
    Only hours into the interview did she finally admit that on the night her three daughters and "that lady" — as she invariably and dismissively called Rona Amir Mohammad, ostensibly her husband's cousin, but in truth his first wife — drowned in a black Nissan, she and her precious son Hamed heard the splash of the car entering the water at the Kingston Mills locks and ran toward it, "and we saw that a car was in the water."
    [...]
    But did she or Hamed do anything? Did they try to save the girls? Leap into the dark water? Call police?
    They did not, Yahya acknowledged — in her case, she said, because of course she swooned from the shock and "fell down" and "became unconscious," as she is wont to do, and as for her son, she suggested, perhaps didn't have his cellphone.
    "When the noise of the water came," she told Farsi-speaking RCMP Inspector Shahin Mehdizadeh, who had been brought in by Kingston Police to interrogate her, "we ran. We ran and came. At that moment, I became so stressed, as I didn't understand . . . I fell down. I screamed and fell down."
    It was July 22, 2009, about three weeks since the death car had been discovered at the bottom of the most southerly of the Rideau Canal locks.
    Yahya, now 41, her husband Mohammad Shafia, 58, and Hamed, now 20, had been arrested earlier that day in connection with the deaths of the four women. The remaining children had been placed with a relative.
    The parents and son are charged with four counts of first-degree murder each, and all are pleading not guilty.
    Until this admission that she, Hamed and Shafia were at the locks, Yahya had stuck stubbornly to her story, denying they were there that night, or that she had any knowledge of what could have happened to wipe out half her family.
    For all Mehdizadeh's efforts — he both spoke softly to her and flat out called her a liar, invoked their common religion, praised her role as a mother, twice put a comforting hand on her shoulder — her admissions were few and far between.
    She admitted the three were there that night. She admitted that yes, her husband had once confided he wanted to kill the oldest ughter, Zainab, and that her brother had mentioned something about Shafia "wanted to kill or wants to kill something like that."
    But even then, she had an explanation.
    In a bit of nonchalance reminiscent of Karla Homolka's most infamous remark — that her husband, the killer Paul Bernardo, wanted to have sex with her baby sister only "the once," and it was just the once and Tammy Homolka died during the drugging attack — Yahya elaborated.
    "Believe me he (Shafia) had never mentioned about killing them, as, 'I want to kill the children.' Not all, just her, because. . . "
    Mehdizadeh interrupted: "Which one? What is the name?"
    "Zainab," Yahya replied.
    You see, it was just the one daughter Shafia confided he'd like dead. No wonder Yahya didn't give it a second thought.
    Despite these late-in-the-game admissions to Mehdizadeh, she was still adamantly insisting that she didn't help in any plan to off the girls, that she didn't know of any plan, that at most critical moments she was sick, or asleep, or unconscious.
    Pushed, she seemed prepared to let the chips fall where they may, so long as they fell at Shafia's feet. Any mention of Hamed's alleged role, any suggestion that Hamed was less than noble, and Yahya leaped like a mother tiger protecting her cub.
    Mehdizadeh was skeptical. He told her that all the Afghans he knew would sacrifice their lives to save a family member. Yahya agreed. Yet all three of them, by her own account, had at minimum seen the car in the water and not lifted a finger.
    [...]
    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Mother+...#ixzz1cgvM6mJT


    I follow this reporters column everynight she puts it like it is
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    So, up until now it seems that all the coverage was placing the actually dirty work at the son's (Hamed's) feet. It seemed that Yahya and Shafia, though probably collaborating, had not been there. But this testimony seems to suggest that not only were they all three there, but that it was Shafia that did the work. Interesting that she wants him not know what she said about it, and that she's pathetically driven to protect her son. (God forbid she want to protect her daughters.)

    She claims she didn't know the women were in the car, but what was the purpose of pushing the car into the canal otherwise? And, if she know that Shafia wanted to kill even one of her children, why didn't that raise alarms?

    So, there is still the question of what was going on with the women in the car? Were they drugged? Dead already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tundratot View Post
    So, up until now it seems that all the coverage was placing the actually dirty work at the son's (Hamed's) feet. It seemed that Yahya and Shafia, though probably collaborating, had not been there. But this testimony seems to suggest that not only were they all three there, but that it was Shafia that did the work. Interesting that she wants him not know what she said about it, and that she's pathetically driven to protect her son. (God forbid she want to protect her daughters.)

    She claims she didn't know the women were in the car, but what was the purpose of pushing the car into the canal otherwise? And, if she know that Shafia wanted to kill even one of her children, why didn't that raise alarms?

    So, there is still the question of what was going on with the women in the car? Were they drugged? Dead already?
    thats what Im waiting to come out

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    Shafia murder trial: Accused father to undergo surgery

    KINGSTON, Ont. – The trial of three Montreal residents accused of murdering four female family members could continue, even if one of the accused is incapacitated or dies, according to a criminal procedure expert.

    The nine-day-old trial of Mohammad Shafia, 58, his wife, Tooba Mohammad Yahya, 41, and their son, Hamed, 20, was abruptly halted Thursday morning after Shafia was hospitalized Wednesday night because of a “serious medical emergency.” Neither police or his lawyer would reveal why.
    The trial, slated to run for up to 10 weeks, was adjourned until Tuesday.

    “One of the accused has taken ill,” Justice Robert Maranger told jurors, who could see that Shafia was missing from the prisoner’s box. “It was a medical emergency, a fairly serious one.
    We’re going to adjourn (the trial) until Tuesday for the lawyers to sort of get the feedback on the status of the medical situation.”

    In an interview outside the courtroom, Shafia’s Kingston lawyer, Peter Kemp, said that his client was expected to undergo surgery Friday at a Kingston hospital. He said he didn’t know the nature of the problem.
    “My understanding is, there’s some sort of a surgical procedure scheduled for (Friday) and I suspect the doctor’s going to say, ‘Well, until I do the surgery, I won’t know.’ ”
    Kemp said he got a phone call at home at 7:30 Thursday morning from a Kingston police officer, telling him about the development. The news plunged the complex case into a legal limbo governed primarily by the wide-ranging discretion of the trial judge.
    Queen’s University law professor Don Stuart said that if Shafia remains ill for a long time and is unable to come back to court, prosecutors could seek to continue without him.
    The Crown could bring a motion to sever (Shafia’s trial) and carry on with the other two,” he said.
    Shafia could be tried later, once he has recuperated. Severances are normally considered before trials, but can be done after a trial has begun.
    Shafia, his wife and son are being tried jointly, under provisions in law that allow the prosecution at one time of several people accused of committing a crime “that arises out of the same transaction.” The same rules provide that in the “interests of justice,” the accused can be tried separately.
    “It just means whatever the judges think it means,” Stuart said.
    Defendants can also seek severances.
    Stuart said the other two accused could oppose a severance by arguing they would be denied the right to cross-examine Shafia, should he testify.
    “Maybe the defence counsel would not want the trial continued,” Stuart said.
    Staff Sgt. Chris Scott, the Kingston police officer in charge of the case, said in an interview that he learned of the medical problem at 9 p.m. Wednesday.
    “It’s strictly a medical issue, no injuries from any assault or any third-party intervention,” Scott said. “I have no information it was a suicide attempt.
    cott said Shafia was taken first to a small hospital in Napanee, just west of Kingston where the Quinte Detention Centre is located. It is a provincial jail where the three accused are held each night during the trial. Scott said Shafia was scheduled to be transferred to Kingston General Hospital.
    As of noon Thursday, Shafia had not been moved to the bigger Kingston hospital, suggesting he is not critically ill, according to hospital personnel. Although the hospital does not publicly discuss patients, The Gazette has learned that Shafia has been taken from jail to the Kingston hospital six times in the past year for treatment of ongoing medical problems.
    The judge told the jury that the trial has been going “very smoothly in terms of time” and he hopes it can resume as soon as possible.

    “We want to, obviously, keep the trial going,” Maranger said, before sending jurors home.
    Crown prosecutors had presented 17 of a possible 58 witnesses since the trial proper began Oct. 20. The 18th witness, an RCMP officer from British Columbia, was in the midst of his testimony about his interrogations, conducted in Farsi, of two of the accused, when the trial was stopped. The interruption likely poses significant scheduling problems for prosecutors and police.
    Several witnesses from Europe were booked to fly to Canada this month to testify. Witnesses from Toronto and Montreal were to appear next week.
    [...]
    Shafia was recorded saying: “There is nothing more valuable than our honour.” The complete wiretaps have not yet been presented to the jurors.
    Honour killing is an ancient cultural practice, still prevalent in some Middle Eastern and south Asian societies, in which women and young girls are killed by family members who believe it is the only way to cleanse a family’s shame. Disobedience, immoral behaviour and loss of virginity, even through rape, can provoke the murders.
    [...]
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    Nov. 4:
    “They did what they were going to do at the hospital and they’re going to discharge him this afternoon,” defence lawyer Peter Kemp said Friday morning. “I’ve talked to the Crown and we’re going to try and get the jury back in and try and get this thing rolling on Tuesday instead of Wednesday.”
    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...#ixzz1dB8dK3uO

    He was in a section of the hospital specializing in cardiology.

    Today:
    The Montreal man accused of killing three of his daughters and his first wife asked a relative a month earlier to help him kill his eldest daughter, a murder trial heard Tuesday.

    “He told me that we will put her in water and drown her,” the man testified.

    The witness, who is related to Tooba Mohammad Yahya, cannot be identified under a temporary court order. The order bars media from publishing information that would identify him, until he has completed his testimony. . . .

    Yahya’s relative testified that he spoke to Shafia by telephone around the end of May 2009, when Shafia was in Dubai on business. The man said he wanted to help Yahya sort out family problems. He said he’d been told that Zainab wanted to get married to a young Pakistani man, against the family’s wishes. The man said he wanted to help talk Zainab out of the ill-advised marriage.

    The man said he was horrified by what Shafia asked him as soon as they began the conversation.

    “He told me, ‘Zainab, she is a stubborn lady and she doesn’t listen to me. She is going to library and (using) Internet. She doesn’t work at home. She goes outside and she has Canadian other friends and she has contact with them and she has contact with a Pakistani guy and these are the reasons I want to kill her,’” the man testified.

    He said Shafia was angry and upset and called Zainab a “whore” and “prostitute.” Shafia asked the man to invite Yahya, Zainab and another Shafia child to visit him, on the pretext of having a barbeque, the man testified. He said Shafia suggested they go to an ocean or a beach.

    “We just go for that excuse, for that excursion and then … when we get there close to the water, Shafia will just push Zainab into the water, just throw her in the water,” he testified.

    The man said he swore at Shafia and hung up the telephone, then tried to call other family members to alert them to the plot. Eventually he reached Yahya and told her.

    He said he had conversations with Zainab, before the call with Shafia, in which she described an oppressive home life. She told the man that she was prevented from going to school, was ordered to dress conservatively and wear a traditional Muslim veil, and was urged to marry a man of her father’s choosing.

    The man testified that Zainab told him her older brother Hamed spied on her conduct and reported back to her father.

    “Zainab, she hated her father and meantime Shafia hated Zainab,” he testified.

    “He (Shafia) was the chief of that family,” the man testified. Zainab had grown to understand that she had the right in Canada to choose her own path in life, the man said.

    The man said he spoke by telephone with Shafia’s first wife. She told him that her life had “disintegrated” and she “had no worth to Shafia.”

    The man said that the woman explained that she had asked Shafia for a divorce and $50,000, but he offered only $2,000.

    During cross-examination by Peter Kemp, Shafia’s lawyer, the witness acknowledged that there has been enmity between the two men for many years.[Odd relative to ask for help, in that case.]

    “I never called Shafia my enemy … but he called me his enemy,” he said.

    Kemp asked why Shafia would recruit someone he considered an “enemy” in a murder plot. The man said that if he helped Shafia, he’d be considered the main suspect, since people would know that the two were not friendly.

    “Today you could have seen me in that box,” he said, gesturing toward the prisoner’s box where the three accused sit during the trial. . . .
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    Accused asked relative for help in killing daughter, trial told

    Mohammad Shafia, Hamid Mohammad Shafia, 20, and Tooba Mohammad Yahya

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    lol we were both posting same thing at same time lol


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    Canal trial accused told police daughters were liars
    Nov 9 2011
    The father accused in the deaths of his three teenage daughters and another woman told a police interrogator his children were liars, a Kingston, Ont. court heard Wednesday.

    [...]
    Shafia made the statement in a videotaped interrogation after he, his wife and son were arrested in July 2009.

    In the video, Shafia denied killing the four victims or helping to kill them, saying his children were pure and sinless. Two minutes later he said his children were all liars except his son.

    During his interrogation, Shafia said his daughters told Quebec youth protection services that he and Yahya beat them, but he didn't know why.
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    Shafia trial witness says he has no record of murder-plot call
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    KINGSTON, Ont. – The man who said Mohammad Shafia tried to recruit him to help kill one of Shafia's daughters testified Wednesday he can’t produce any phone records to back his claim and he doesn’t know exactly when the call happened.
    It doesn’t mean I didn’t talk to Mr. Shafia,” Fazil Javid said on the witness stand Wednesday morning, under questioning by lawyer David Crowe, who represents Tooba Mohammad Yahya, 41, one of the three murder defendants.
    Javid lives in Sweden and is a brother of Yahya. His name had been protected from publication under a temporary court order until he completed his testimony. Javid finished testifying Wednesday morning.
    [...]
    Javid testified Wednesday that he spoke to Shafia on the telephone in late May or early June while Shafia was in Dubai on business. Javid had hoped to intervene in a family problem with Zainab Shafia, who had run away from home and wanted to marry a young Pakistani man, against everyone’s advice.
    [...]
    Crowe asked Javid on Wednesday why he said, during testimony at a preliminary inquiry, that the phone call was in early May.
    “I might have been mixed up,” Javid said.
    Javid said he was at work in his pizza shop in the Swedish city of Oxelosund when he had the phone conversation in which Mohammad Shafia exhorted him to help in a murder plot. Javid said he used a phone card to make the call; his phone service provider said it was unable to provide any record of the call.
    Javid said he was so upset by what Shafia said, he had to see a psychologist for counselling. After the Shafia call, he spoke to Zainab but didn’t tell her about the plot.
    “You believed [Zainab] was in danger of being killed by her father?” asked lawyer Patrick McCann, who represents Hamed.
    Yes,” Javid replied.
    “You spoke to her directly on the phone after hearing about the plan and you didn’t say a word to her about it?” McCann wondered.
    “No,” Javid replied.
    Javid said he called his sister and a brother who lives in Montreal about the scheme.
    AFer Javid’s testimony, jurors began watching a videotape of an interrogation of Mohammad Shafia by an RCMP officer.

    Early in the tape, Shafia refers to his children as “liars” but he denies that he killed them. Court adjourned for lunch after jurors had seen only a few minutes of the interrogation.

    Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/Shafi...#ixzz1dEuMDYTH

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    Javid said he was so upset by what Shafia said, he had to see a psychologist for counselling.
    If they can't find phone records to prove the call took place, they should be able to verify the counselling took place, and even whether is concerned this topic. It would lend credibility to his story. I think it's also important to note when Shafia was in Dubai on a business trip and verify that, since he is alleged to have made the call during the trip. (Crafty, I'd say. That eliminates a phone record from his home or office.) And what about these people?

    Javid said he called his sister and a brother who lives in Montreal about the scheme.
    What did they think or do?
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    this is still going on today this is just a mid day update

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisper View Post
    Canal trial accused told police daughters were liars
    Nov 9 2011
    The father accused in the deaths of his three teenage daughters and another woman told a police interrogator his children were liars, a Kingston, Ont. court heard Wednesday.

    [...]
    In the video, Shafia denied killing the four victims or helping to kill them, saying his children were pure and sinless. Two minutes later he said his children were all liars except his son.
    It seems that shithead always accuse others of doing what they do. Somehow it justifies their behavior in their own mental-midget minds.

    Damned self righteous asshole.

    'I don't lie', Shafia tells interrogator as he denies ever being married to his dead wife
    RCMP officer spends two frustrating hours questioning father accused in four deaths
    Shafia had just finished telling this officer, Insp. Shahin Mehdizadeh, that Rona Amir Mohammad was his cousin, and before that his friend, and denied ever being married to her.

    The inspector then slid over a picture taken of their wedding at Kabul's Intercontinental Hotel.

    "No," said Shafia. "This is it, was her birthday or something. This is not marriage. I haven't married her."

    That is what Mehdizadeh's two-hour interview with Shafia was like, the day after his arrest in the June 30, 2009, drowning deaths of his three daughters and Amir. For the inspector, it was akin to dealing with a particularly obtuse six-year-old.
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    For the inspector, it was akin to dealing with a particularly obtuse six-year-old.
    Yep. He sounds like one.
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