Easy solution. Drink more and hate all people...the same way they hate you.Originally Posted by CPL CHUD
Easy solution. Drink more and hate all people...the same way they hate you.
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/q...cham/usa-1.gifhttp://i456.photobucket.com/albums/q...am/USMC-vi.gif"When I joined the military it was illegal to be homosexual, then it became optional. I'm getting out before Obama makes it mandatory."
~ Gy.Sgt. Harry Berres, USMC ~
So when you get put in the hospital by cops who used excessive force, you are now "whiny"? And by they way, when people are racist, it usually isn't because they are afraid of black people, it's because they don't like them. So although maybe we need a new term for it, I can tell you right now you are what is considered a "homophobe". Why am I not surprised that you would come post your hateful comments in this thread? Although I strongly dislike a couple of you that come in here posting your crap, thank you for drawing more attention to this thread, I guess I should be grateful. Thanks for helping the gay cause, muah!
And what exactly is your position on all this Dmax? I've noticed a bunch of posts from you yet have no idea where you stand on this. Care to share??????????
And Aslan, that is not the reason why blogs are not allowed. The reason blogs are not allowed is because some of them bitch to Morbid about having their content stolen. Like I said before, for various reasons, I didn't think that would be the case with this story, and it was a chance I was willing to take for the cause.
I'm honestly sick of this thread being more about insulting me and less about the topic, so I'm changing the title. I'm sure you'll stick around and find something else to nitpick on, because we all know the title isn't the real problem here, is it?
Sure. If you're going to grope a cop during a bar raid, maybe, it would be wise to introduce yourself and buy him a drink, first. I'm not a cop but, I would appreciate that, myself.
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/q...cham/usa-1.gifhttp://i456.photobucket.com/albums/q...am/USMC-vi.gif"When I joined the military it was illegal to be homosexual, then it became optional. I'm getting out before Obama makes it mandatory."
~ Gy.Sgt. Harry Berres, USMC ~
Damn bitch, did you catch a hair that last trip to the potty?
R
Slander???? *Snortgiggle* Only if he was actually quoted.....
SleepingwithAngels and my Solange, I just love ya'll...
This thread has been moved to three things now.
Time for everyone to put their big girl/big boy pants on.
Aw hell K, three things scares most of em away....
Apologies to the DD staff who have had to take extra time in order to deal with this thread.
While some of us may disagree with one another, I'm sure that it was no ones intention to create extra work for you.
Last edited by Aslan; July 6th, 2009 at 08:55 PM.
Well, if you can't play with the big dogs, stay on the porch.
Follow the rules folks. Leave the personal shit and the emotions out of it. There are actually people that want to use three things in the nature that it was originally intended, but they can't because people take things too personally and get all butthurt about it. If you find that you may be one of these people, please stay back. Don't ruin it for everyone else.
This place used to be a hotbed of debate among people that knew what they were talking about. I, personally, would like to see it return to that.
EDIT: This has been moved out of three things since I posted this. Have at it bitches.
Last edited by Rotten Apple; July 7th, 2009 at 12:36 AM. Reason: admin and mods are TRICKY and out ot get me...
I have not gotten any updates on the investigation or Chad Gibson...so if anyone sees or hears anything please keep me updated...
Sorry about the emotional shiz RA but i hafta tell Malq that I love im' too!
Anyways,
I have read a few posts here that say that the TABC (hope i got that right) is to blame and everyone should back off FWPD...BUT in the article i posted a page back SEVERAL witnesses say the original tussle was with FWPD officers (4 of them i believe was the number given) and that the secondary assault was by the TABC officer int he parking lot...
So as far as Im concerned both offices are guilty parties.
And all of the homosexual stuff aside, am I the only one who thinks that it is unlawful that they could pass a law allowing Police to enter a private establishment and arrest people for Public Intoxication...I mean wait outside and arrest them as they come out but why can they enter inside and arrest people who are not technically in "public"?
debate that
awesome, do I get a free t shirt?I can tell you right now you are what is considered a "homophobe". Thanks for helping the gay cause, muah!
"Where the fuck am I ? - Amelia Earhart, 1937
You can say lots of bad things about pedophiles, but at least they drive slowly past schools.->malq
On Sunday morning, June 28, 2009, at 12:30 a.m., six (6) Fort Worth Police Officers, two (2) TABC agents and a Fort Worth supervisor conducted inspections at 160 W Rosedale (Rosedale Saloon and Cowboy Palace). This inspection resulted in nine (9) arrests. Once the inspection was completed at these locations, officers proceeded to the Rainbow Lounge.
Officers arrived at the Rainbow Lounge to conduct the scheduled inspection.
The Fort Worth Police Officers who participated in this bar check included the following:
Police internal-affairs investigators will look into officers’ actions at the Rainbow Lounge, a gay nightclub on South Jennings Avenue, Halstead said.Officer K. Gober, #3656,
Officer J. Ricks, #3484,
Officer M. Marquez, #3655,
Officer J. Jenson, #3731,
Officer J. Back, #3863,
Officer J. Moss, #3722
Sergeant Morris.
He asked people who are angry with police "to take a deep breath."
http://www.star-telegram.com/metro_n...y/1460939.htmlThe injured man, Chad Gibson, 26, remained hospitalized Monday.
He and six other people were arrested during what Halstead said was a routine bar inspection.
Gibson may require surgery for his head injury if his condition doesn’t improve, said his sister, Kristy Morgan.
"He remembers going to the bar. He remembers having a drink. He doesn’t remember anything else," she said.
Some people are like Slinkies. They aren’t really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to my face when I push them down a flight of stairs.
from the link to the FW Star Telegram i posted on the first page:
so, that might help the question of whether cops or bev commission peeps were there. they both were. but also, the bev peeps were wearing shirts that labelled them as "police" which added to the confusion.FORT WORTH —
...Chad Gibson, 26, of Euless remained hospitalized in good condition Friday with a head injury he received after six police officers and two beverage commission agents and a supervisor entered the Rainbow Lounge about 1 a.m. Sunday.
...The arrests and Gibson’s injury have been widely publicized and loudly condemned, especially by gay and lesbian activists. The incident occurred on the 40th anniversary of the Stonewall riots in New York, a significant moment in the gay-rights movement.
...Beverage commission officials acknowledged to the two lawmakers that mistakes were made at the Rainbow Lounge, Burnam said.
For example, Burnam said, beverage commission agents entered the bar wearing shirts labeled "State Police." Those shirts are typically worn during special events when commission officials are assigned crowd-control duties, Burnam said.
Wearing beverage commission shirts might have given Rainbow patrons a better idea of what was happening Sunday, but "state police" shirts might have seemed provocative to some, Burnam said.
"The agents should have changed their shirts before entering the bar," he said.
Texas has no "state police."
and i threw in the 40th anniversary of stonewall just because its ironic. and sentimental to me. i wont say why bc some of you will just roll your eyes and call me liberal. but really, its just where life leads.
I cant tell from all the different story's I read how drunk any of the patrons of the rainbow bar were. I haven't seen any Bac reports at all. Or if any one was actually tested.
It is clear that the cops and TABC agents stopped at 3 other "non" gay places and arrested 9 people, then went to the Rainbow bar. The Rainbow bar is under new management so it would have been on the list as a place to check out , but not because of the sexual orientation of the clients, but to see if the new owners were following the rules. I don't see this as a evil plot by the FWPD or TABC to go out gay bashing.
I have seen allot of different story's about what happened in the bar, some you have to discount because the bar owners certainly don't want to get charged for drunk customers. The cops claim Chad was so drunk he had alcohol poisoning, the waitress says he had a bottle of water in his hand just before the beating. I think its possible "if" Chad was shit faced, he might have groped the agent / cop. I have seen drunks do allot worse stuff than that. But the reaction of who ever arrested Chad was over the top and out of control and could be considered a homophobic reaction. That takedown caused a chain reaction to the other cops and patrons there and it got out of control.
So was it a gay bashing trip that brought them to the bar?? It doesn't look that way. Is it possible one or more agents got out of hand ??? yes. Was there a shit load of poop face people in the bar??? probly.
They certainly picked a bad night to do this on though, considering it was on the 40th anniversary of the Stonewall riots. Though I am pretty sure none of the officers were aware of it.
Some people are like Slinkies. They aren’t really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to my face when I push them down a flight of stairs.
LOL I don't find that hard to believe.
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/q...cham/usa-1.gifhttp://i456.photobucket.com/albums/q...am/USMC-vi.gif"When I joined the military it was illegal to be homosexual, then it became optional. I'm getting out before Obama makes it mandatory."
~ Gy.Sgt. Harry Berres, USMC ~
He got drunk, slipped, and fell. The law enforcement involved are completely innocent of any wrong doing.
If I was groped, the groper would get hit. A hard slap to the face or maybe a punch, if I was feeling particularly pissed off. Would I beat someone until I caused brain damage over that? No. Even if this guy groped an officer, the force used was excessive. Malq, people label things. That's what they do. There are thousands of phobias that people actually have. Why is this one any less real?
~Emily Bronte "The Horrors of Sleep"Sleep brings no wish to fret
My harrassed heart beneath;
My only wish is to forget
In endless sleep of death
I agree with the sentiment that the police were not there specifically to "gay bash", they were there to their job of checking for drunk patrons. But the question is, did they come into the gay bar with more force than they would another bar? that seems to be what witnesses are saying.
I do think the 40thAnniversary of Stonewall had nothing to do with it either..just a bad coincidence.
Chad Gibson himself agreed that he had been drunk. By all witness accounts, although the story differs a bit, there was no time for him to "grope" an officer. Without having to go back and requote it, most witnesses say he was immediately spun around and pushed to the wall. Now, since he was drunk, under the law, this was a valid arrest...but the debate is was the force used, the force needed to subdue him. Again, from most if not all witness accounts he was walking down the hall and was grabbed (some report he was holding hands with a man and their hands were slepped apart) and then spun around and pushed against the wall...several more witnessess say a FWPO pulled his head back by the hair and slammed it into the wall. When they pulled him back he stumbled and TABC or Officers, whichever, knocked him to the ground. By those witness statements it seems he didnt have time to grope anybody...BUT, if he did, was the force used necassary....the answer to that is still no. sure twist his arm, slap his hand away...but causing bleeding on his brain?..causing a head injury? no matter how you slice it, they used too much force.
If I knew what the hell that meant, I might respond, but I don't. I dont appreciate you calling me a bitch though, thanks alot Harley buddy, glad to see I can count on you.
I asked Morbid to change the title to this, but he hasn't I see, I will ask him again. I dont get why this keeps getting moved around, having it in three things was fine with me, what happened that it got moved?
I really do not believe there is anyone out there who has a fear of homosexuals.
A fear of spiders? Ok you have arachnophobia.
Homophobia? that is so ridiculous. Haters? Yes, but people fearing them?
People scream homophobe at the first hint that someone may have another view. they might as well scream out loud "I am insecure and I do not know what I am talking about".The term is not even valid. That's what bugs me. I don't take anything serious when that word is used. I think that word gives people an over exaggerated sense of entitlement and power that is falsely placed.
"Where the fuck am I ? - Amelia Earhart, 1937
You can say lots of bad things about pedophiles, but at least they drive slowly past schools.->malq
Hey, that is entirely possible. I'm not saying it ain't. But based on what we know so far, I'm leaning towards that not being the case.
The word is stupid because of the "phobe" part of it. But we all know what people mean when they use it. It means you reject someone who is different than you. It isn't the "norm", so therefore if must be wrong. Just like back in the day interracial marriage wasn't normal, but look at it now.
With all due respect, eventually those of you who disapprove are just going to have to get used to it, gays aren't going away any time soon, and I do believe eventually they will be able to marry.
I still want to know why you automatically assumed that this didn't happen, and that the guy is just being "whiny". That had nothing to with him being gay? What am I supposed to think Malq?
Last edited by solange82200; July 7th, 2009 at 01:05 PM.
I don't know that the term is all that inaccurate. I've known more than a few young men legitimately afraid to get hit on by a male. In fact, that's a pretty common statement - "I'm okay with gays, just as long as they don't hit on me." Then there's the fear that homosexuality is taught or contagious, like it can get "caught" by hanging out with them. Just recently on the front page a member made a statement about how gays can only hope to continue to exist by adopting children and turning them gay. Amazingly, that belief still exists.
I agree that, with the introduction of education, it's transitioning out of a phobia and into plain ol' bigotry. But we're not quite there yet, so I think the "homophobe" term is still a valid one.
"Now that ceaseless exposure has calloused us to the lewd and the vulgar, it is instructive to see what still seems wicked to us. What still slaps the clammy flab of our submissive consciousness hard enough to get our attention?"
I disagree. My father and all his brothers CANNOT be in the same space as a gay person. They freak the fuck out. I'm not joking. It's like watching rats jump off a sinking ship. My husband's best friend is the same way. There is fear there. Is the term misused? Definitely.
~Emily Bronte "The Horrors of Sleep"Sleep brings no wish to fret
My harrassed heart beneath;
My only wish is to forget
In endless sleep of death
if you are using the term "phobia" in its literal meaning..as in a pshychological disorder where a fear interrupts your normal life..thats the key part..it has to have some sort of effect on your life. ..so if youre using homophobic in its literal meaning you are saying that you have a great fear of homosexuals that interferes in your normal life, then yes it is often misused...
fear is just the wrong word used to describe the condition of people who are uncomfortable with homosexuals..some people are just that..extremely uncomfortable.
but "Homophobes" and people who are uncomfortable around homosexuals are different from people who HATE them. People who hate homosexuals have the same bigotry as racists. therefore, perhaps a more fitting term would be homosexualists...or maybe they can fall under the category of sexists since they feel that men and women have certain roles.
Tazzzz stole those thoughts right outta my head! And half a day before I even thought them! DAMN! He's good!!
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I think there are some things your not taking into account, one of them being , men fear being raped by other men. It not just woman who get raped by men. The problem is, the only name we have for men who fuck other men is homosexual or gay or what ever. When that name really doesn't apply. And the gay man is taking the heat for it. So maybe we need to change the name we call it or look at it a different way.
Some people are like Slinkies. They aren’t really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to my face when I push them down a flight of stairs.
Can you say, "Homosexual Rapist"? I don't see where a "gay man" takes the heat for a homosexual rape any more than a "straight man" takes the heat for a straight rape.
I now sign off, for today is too nice a day to contaminate with visions of HIV, Hepatitis, or, Shit on a Dick.
Last edited by dmax; July 7th, 2009 at 07:24 PM.
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/q...cham/usa-1.gifhttp://i456.photobucket.com/albums/q...am/USMC-vi.gif"When I joined the military it was illegal to be homosexual, then it became optional. I'm getting out before Obama makes it mandatory."
~ Gy.Sgt. Harry Berres, USMC ~
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