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    Fort Worth Police and TABC Raid A Gay Bar

    Below is part of an article from Slog. Please follow the link to read some more updates, and for some contact info to some people you MUST email. My little brother is gay, and I swear to god if this happened to him I'd be pulling a "187 on a undercover cop", like Snoop Dog used to say....

    http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/arc...-had-it-coming
    Most residents of Fort Worth have never even seen the inside of a gay bar. Fort Worth's police chief Jeff Halstead is counting on that fact—counting on the average person's ignorance about gay bars and certain stereotypes about gay men—to get a half a dozen Forth Worth police officers off the hook for conducting a violent raid on a Forth Worth gay bar, the Rainbow Lounge, late last Saturday night. Seven men were arrested during the raid, which took place on the 40th anniversary of the raid on the Stonewall Inn that kick-started the modern gay rights movement, and one of those men—Chad Gibson—remains in intensive care with a brain injury. Gibson may not survive.

    The officers who raided the Rainbow Lounge claim that the men in the bar made "advances" on them—and Forth Worth's police chief is backing them up:

    Monday, police chief Jeff Halstead said the officers' actions are being investigated. However, he also said that officers that entered the bar during the scheduled inspection were touched inappropriately.

    "You're touched and advanced in certain ways by people inside the bar, that's offensive," he said. "I'm happy with the restraint used when they were contacted like that."

    Allow me to translate the chief's comments: "Them faggots in that thar bar touched mah officers and now they're complainin' about some rough stuff and one little ol' faggot with a brain injury? Those perverts should be grateful they're alive."

    This is a classic example of the Gay Panic Defense. In the very recent past all a straight man who brutally murdered a gay man had to say was, "He made a pass at me!", and the jury would ignore the evidence and let the murderer off. The Gay Panic Defense doesn't fly in many courts of law these days but it still has currency in the court of public opinion. And the chief of police in Forth Worth, a major U.S. city, is attempting to use the Gay Panic Defense to convince the citizens of Fort Worth to ignore the evidence—to ignore photographic evidence and credible eyewitness accounts—and let his officers off.

    And you'll never guess who the police are accusing of being the groper: Chad Gibson, the one man arrested at the Rainbow Lounge who can't defend himself and may never be able to give his side of the story. But another person at the bar witnessed Gibson's arrest:

    "They were hyped up. They were loaded for bear," said Todd Camp, a veteran journalist who was there celebrating his birthday with friends. "They were just randomly grabbing people, telling them they were drunk."

    Camp told me he has been in bars during TABC/police "checks" before, "and it was never anything like this." Usually, he said, officers discreetly walk through, looking for anybody who has had too much. This was different. "They were shoving patrons," Camp said, "asking, 'How much have you had to drink?'"

    ...

    "[Gibson] was taken down hard," said Camp, with "four or five" officers wrestling him to the floor inside the club. Cellphone photos shot by patrons and posted to blogs show a person being held facedown by officers in a short hallway inside the club, then show a dent in the wall where his head was apparently banged.

    The police claim that Gibson wasn't injured when those four or five cops slammed him to the floor of the bar, but after his arrest, when, drunk and handcuffed, Gibson somehow fell and hit his head on the pavement outside the bar.

    All of this is bullshit.

    I've been in a million gay bars. I've been in gay bars on multiple occasions when the police came in to check everyone's IDs and make sure no minors were being served. Gay men don't grope police officers when they enter gay bars. I find it inconceivable that the gay men drinking in the Rainbow Lounge in Fort Worth responded to a raid by attempting to grope the police officers. This "they groped us!" shit is a lie. As the owner of the bar, J.R. Schrock, put it at the protest the night after the raid:

    "The groping of the police officer—really? We're gay, but we're not dumb," Schrock said to the crowd that gathered at the bar Sunday afternoon. "That is a lie, and I am appalled by it."

    Jeff Halstead can't be allowed to use the Gay Panic Defense. His officers weren't groped, no one was "touched and advanced." Homophobic cops raided a gay bar, roughed up the patrons, and a young man is in the hospital and may die.

    Some will say that this was just an ill-timed raid on a gay bar in Texas, of all places, one that got out of control. So what's the big deal? But this is exactly the kind of state-sponsored violence that gays and lesbians fought back against at Stonewall 40 years ago. Gay men all over the country are going to have to speak up and defend the patrons of the Rainbow Lounge. We can't allow the chief of police in Fort Worth to use the Gay Panic Defense or exploit stereotypes about gay men—so sexually reckless that they can't even keep their hands off cops during a raid!—to get away with violating the civil rights of gay men in Fort Worth or murdering Chad Gibson.
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    Too bad that defence won't fly. I was imagining how I might be able to get away with flattening the next man who made unwanted advances on me.....

    What do you say? It is only if it is someone of your own gender that advances, you might try it? Where's the fun in that?

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    oh my god, that's awful. thanks for posting the story though.

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    Fort Worth Police Chief: That Faggot Had It Coming

    This fellow should be Attorney-General.


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    What a homophobic fucking asshole ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by myra manes View Post
    What a homophobic fucking asshole ..
    Yeah...I'm a prick.
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    Next time an asshole won't leave me alone at a bar, I'm gonna put him in a coma and use the straight panic defense.

    I wonder if it would fly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotten Apple View Post
    Next time an asshole won't leave me alone at a bar, I'm gonna put him in a coma and use the straight panic defense.

    That....or....you'll let him buy you drinks all night and end up hand-cuffed to his headboard.
    Yet know, my master, God omnipotent,
    Is mustering in his clouds on our behalf
    Armies of pestilence; and they shall strike
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    That lift your vassal hands against my head
    And threat the glory of my precious crown.

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    Thanks, solange.
    Both my best friend and my future sister in law are lesbian.
    I also had a gay frined who finally succumbed to complications of Aids.
    I too have been in may gay bars and have NEVER seen activities as described here.
    Well, there was one time a man put his hands on my boyfriends shoulder, but it wasn't a grope, for crying out loud.

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    "The groping of the police officer—really? We're gay, but we're not dumb," Schrock said to the crowd that gathered at the bar Sunday afternoon. "That is a lie, and I am appalled by it."
    It is a lie. No gay man would would make advances on a straight man. I have a gay son and a lot of gay people in my life. Every single one them say they would never hit on a straight person. This was gay bashing at it's finest. Stupid, homophobic pricks!

    I hope everyone of them lose their jobs and are put in jail!!!!!

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    i dont believe for a second that a cop was groped.

    and even if one or all were, big fuckin deal! please, please, please tell me that the next time i get propositioned, touched, or leered at by anyone who is creepy, tragic, overly opinionated, mean, or simple minded (my version of unwanted advances) that i get the option to bash their fucking heads in free of charge.

    the level of hostility and aggression that society accepts as 'ok' truly sickens me.

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    If I'm that area of Texas and a woman that I don't want to hook up with gropes me, I have the right to bash her skull in. I'll just use the "ugly woman" panic defense.

    On a side note, bullshit to what the police chief is saying. I guess he's hoping that homophobia will save his sorry butt. No one would try and grope a police officer during a bar raid. I have several gay friends and I'm sick and tired of hearing how they'll destroy marriage or open the door for mutiple marriages blah blah. In the past couple of weeks, we saw two of the biggest anti-gay marriage(and they tried HARD to get a federal mariage amendment passed), family values GOP pricks be revealed to be hypocrites. Mark Sanford and John Ensign have done more to threaten straight marriage than gays ever will.
    Last edited by Ninja0980; July 5th, 2009 at 03:09 AM.

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    Thanks everyone for the replies, Im glad so many of my fellow DDers are as disgusted as I am. It doesn't just anger me, but it truly hurts me that so many of my fellow Americans are against gay and lesbian rights. I understand there will always be bad people everywhere, but when you have a huge population of people who stand for something that is NOT what America should stand for, it's truly heartbreaking.

    Please if you have a moment remember to email the council members and mayor listed at the bottom of the article. If you use twitter, spread the word about that article. The story has not become as well known and big as it should be, so let's make it happen!

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    Sad , what you'd expect to hear in India or somewhere . My sister in law always seems to go for straight women .
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    here is a link from the Fort Worth Star Telegram stating that the mayor has asked for the US Atty General's office to conduct its own review of police actions that evening.

    http://www.star-telegram.com/804/sto...k=omni_popular

    he is not officially stating any belief that there was any wrong-doing, but that he wants an outside source to examine and report on the incident for propriety's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotten Apple View Post
    Next time an asshole won't leave me alone at a bar, I'm gonna put him in a coma and use the straight panic defense.

    I wonder if it would fly?
    Or you could call it the "Holy Shit, A guy is actually INTERESTED in ME and I panicked Defense".....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJCheaney View Post
    Or you could call it the "Holy Shit, A guy is actually INTERESTED in ME and I panicked Defense".....


    I got it like that.

    Quit hating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotten Apple View Post


    I got it like that.

    Quit hating.
    We all love ya RA!

    You just made it too easy. Thats all!

    Heres another one:

    The I thought he was the S.C. Spree killer defense.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJCheaney View Post
    The I thought he was the S.C. Spree killer defense.....
    HAHAAAA! I was gonna stay home this evening, but now I am reconsidering going out JUST so I can use that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotten Apple View Post
    HAHAAAA! I was gonna stay home this evening, but now I am reconsidering going out JUST so I can use that.
    Just doing what I can to improve your life RA!

    In my own little way of course.....

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    I do wonder why homophobes think every gay man is on a dick hunt, every gay female on a pussy hunt.
    it's USUALLY the really fat, nasty smelling people that are homophobes. The ones that NO ONE is interested in.
    plagh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja0980 View Post
    No one would try and grope a police officer during a bar raid.
    I have but, only after she groped me first. We are now dating. She even picks me up in her patrol car and gives me a ride to the bar whenever I want. Then, after her shift is over, she comes back to the bar and drinks with me, and we dance, and then, she drives me home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peeperann View Post
    I have a gay son and a lot of gay people in my life.
    I believe this is the first time I have ever heard this. Why haven't you mentioned this before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amazon View Post
    I do wonder why homophobes think every gay man is on a dick hunt, every gay female on a pussy hunt.
    How many fags do you know of on a pussy hunt...or, dykes on a dick hunt?
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    in my opinion this was a hate crime. it makes no sense that during a raid a gay man would hit on a straight officer. there are many witnesses and hopefully another unit will find these officers are guilty of a hate crime and excessive force. just because you're a cop doesnt give you the right or power to critically injure a homosexual.

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    You're touched and advanced in certain ways by people inside the bar, that's offensive," he said. "I'm happy with the restraint used when they were contacted like that.
    "

    Another myth about homosexuality...theyre interested in everyone!

    I couldnt count on two hands how many times Ive talked to a male friend about my gay friends and heard "im cool with it as long as they dont hit on me" my answer, "What makes you so special that just cause you have a penis every gay man wants you!?"

    AND EVEN SO..you go raid a gay bar and because someone "gropes" you (which i think all of us know is bullshit) so you use that kind of force..how about a hand slap and cuff him!? not necassary to slam heads...

    id like to know what the reason for the raid was..were they just peacably going inside to check IDs and look for people who had maybe had too much? or did they bust in looking for drugs or some larger offense?

    Seems to me that if it were the former then they wouldnt need so many cops and then would it really be called a raid?

    anywhore, my opinion, and i think the general opinion of the group is...these cops busted into a gay bar and instead of being objective and just doing their job, they decided since they dont agree with these peoples lifestyle, took it upon themselves to be bullies..

    we need to let these "police officers" know that we will not tolerate this kind of behavior from them...they are supposed to uphold and enforce the law not break it!


    just another sidenote:
    "I'm happy with the restraint used when they were contacted like that"

    So what hes saying is the people in that bar are lucky that they didnt get worse? youre happy that your officers could control themselves from what shooting or killing an innocent person because a gay man touched them??

    sickening..Im calling for his resignation!
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    Chad Gibson, the 26-year-old Fort Worth resident who wound up in John Peter Smith Hospital in the intensive care unit after a law enforcement raid on a gay bar over the weekend, remains in danger with a blood clot on his brain. Dallas Voice senior editor Tammye Nash reports on the newspaper's blog, Instant Tea, that Gibson's sister, Kristy Morgan, told her a CAT scan had revealed the blood clot has quit growing, but it is still considered a life-threatening situation. Until the clot dissolves, there is a danger that the clot could break off and cause severe brain damage or death. A rupture of the clot could also start bleeding again.

    The blood clot could take from six months to two years to dissolve, according to the update. Gibson, shown in a picture from facebook.com, will likely remain in the hospital for the rest of the week and will be referred to a neurosurgeon for follow-up treatment. Surgery is reportedly not being considered at this time.

    Discussion is under way about the establishment of a medical fund to assist Gibson. His hospital bill will undoubtedly be enormous, and it is unlikely that he will ever recover any of those medical expenses from the City of Fort Worth. Police officers and other government employees are protected by state law from liability in any legal action that arises in connection with the performance of their official duties, unless they are involved in misconduct or broke laws.
    From:http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/arc...-had-it-coming


    Chad Gibson

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    My e-mail to the mayor...Hope it doesnt have too many grammatical errors! i wanted to sound knowlegable...

    Dear Sir,

    I am both appalled and outraged at what has occurred in the city I call home. I am also appalled and outraged that someone in your position has not taken a firm stand against both the officers involved in beating Chad Gibson and the police chief Jeff Halstead. Adding insult to injury, after his officers beat an unarmed man for allegedly "groping him" (which Chad Gibson was not even charged for, if it happened why wasnt he charged?), Jeff Halstead has made sterotypical, and what can only be contrued as Anti-Gay comments in the press about Homosexuals.
    Please know it is not just the Homosexual Community that is outraged by these actions, it is those who can no longer feel safe, and that they are protected, because Fort Worth Police Officers will choose, based on their beliefs, how much force to use.
    I urge you to join Fort Worth City Counsel Members, Joel Burns, Sal Espino, and Kathleen Hicks, in calling for an investigation into this matter.

    Thank You For Your Time,
    Stacy

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