8-year-old, Victoria Stafford, missing in Canada *deceased*

[Whisper]

This finally made our paper today theres a few things that bother me about mom. OPP join hunt for missing girl,,,,http://www.windsorstar.com/news/join...266/story.html

The parents of an eight-year-old Ontario girl missing since April 8, say they are relieved provincial police have joined the investigation into the disappearance of their daughter, an investigation authorities now deem an abduction.

"It's more comforting, knowing that there are going to be more (police) out there searching for my daughter," said Rodney Stafford of the combined scouring efforts to find Victoria (Tori) Stafford.

Responding to a police announcement Friday morning that investigators are no longer classifying Tori as missing person, the girl's father said it didn't matter whether investigators describe his daughter's case as a missing person or an abduction.

"To me, it is just a word," he said. "Missing and abducted -- it's the same thing to me because she is gone.

"I just want my baby back," he said.

The girl's mother, Tara McDonald, said earlier in the day she believes police are gaining ground in their investigation to find Tori.

"I feel that they are closer. I feel that a change has taken place between yesterday and today," said McDonald, whose daughter was last seen on a blurred surveillance video walking without a struggle with an unidentified woman just before she went missing after students were let out of class a week and a half ago.

Speaking to a throng of media in front of her home in Woodstock, about 145 kilometres southwest of Toronto, and appearing well-composed behind dark sunglasses, McDonald said something inside her tells her her daughter is still alive.

"I'm her mother, I know her better than anyone else on the planet," she said, adding she thinks Tori was taken by someone she didn't know.

"I'd like to think it was a stranger because I would not like to think that any friend or acquaintance or anybody that I know would do something like this," she said.

Tori's father said he has seen the video footage of his daughter countless times and thinks his daughter knew the woman she walked away with.

"My daughter looks very comfortable with whoever she is with," he said.

"She's always been told about strangers and she knows about strangers. She wouldn't be walking with somebody she doesn't know."

Earlier Friday, Ron Fraser, the city's police chief, announced Ontario Provincial Police would be taking a major role in the investigation into the child's disappearance. He said cases involving missing children require more resources than community police forces, such as those in Woodstock, a city with a population of approximately 35,000.

The U.S. crime website America's Most Wanted made Tori's disappearance its top story on Wednesday.

Speaking to a throng of media in front of her home in Woodstock, about 145 kilometres southwest of Toronto, and appearing well-composed behind dark sunglasses, McDonald said something inside her tells her her daughter is still alive.

"I'm her mother, I know her better than anyone else on the planet," she said, adding she thinks Tori was taken by someone she didn't know.

"I'd like to think it was a stranger because I would not like to think that any friend or acquaintance or anybody that I know would do something like this," she said.

I havent seen a tear yet.Shes always composed and why the hell would a stranger taking your child make you feel better??I couldnt believe it when I read that.

Tori's father said he has seen the video footage of his daughter countless times and thinks his daughter knew the woman she walked away with.

"My daughter looks very comfortable with whoever she is with," he said.

"She's always been told about strangers and she knows about strangers. She wouldn't be walking with somebody she doesn't know."

So if he thinks its a person she knows wouldnt either mom or dad know who the woman was??Im wondering if they have looked in to any extracurricular activities she may have had outside of school,brownies or something.Im sure now with OPP they will cover everything they are really good.I just feel with the news busting with Sandra Cantus abduction and murder if that were my child(Victoria) I would be a mess to begin with but more so with that crap in the news.At the link above theres a pic of mom I cant tell for sure but looks pregnant to me and that makes your hormones go schitzo too!Maybe Im wrong I just have a bad feeling between the 2 parents way to controlled in the emotion dept.

McDonald said something inside her tells her her daughter is still alive.

"I'm her mother, I know her better than anyone else on the planet," she said, adding she thinks Tori was taken by someone she didn't know.

And that sentence is almost verbatim of casey anthony on her interrogation interviews maybe its me and Ive been hating casey anthony so much Im seeing it in other cases but that sentence shook me a bit.I have kids I am very intune with mine but I wont sit and pretend to be a psychic and say "Im the mom I know they are o.k".Umtil they were back and I had mu arms around them I wouldnt be able to function.

[Whisper]

I found a Independant Website run by a guy that lives in Woodstock.Hes not happy with our Goverment (which I dont know anyone who is) but hes got some good comments and info on Victoria Staffords case.THE WOODSTOCK ONTARIO INDEPENDENT NEWS
Chronicalling general mismanagement at the hands of our elected officials.http://jimbenderoxford.blogspot.com/...rways-for.html

Finally, leadership. said...
Rumour is Julian Fantino is coming to Woodstock. Its about time we will see real leadership. Fraser and Harding....Fuck off and go fishing...

People are getting frustrated with the "non happenings of this case".Julian Fantino http://www.opp.ca/Organization/Commissioner/index.htm He used to be mayor Of Toronto and or Police Chief in Toronto.Hopefully he will come in and clean up this mess.

[Rockin Ma]

SALFORD — An OPP search team combed through piles of garbage at the Oxford County Landfill Monday as the investigation into the abduction of Victoria “Tori” Stafford entered its 13th day.

The team of roughly 20 Emergency Response Team officers sifted through garbage that had been collected from Woodstock since the night of Tori’s disappearance, looking for any evidence that could be connected to the abduction of the missing eight-year-old. Because of the rainy weather, OPP officers suspended their search in the early afternoon but should return to the landfill early this morning.

“There has been no information to suggest there is evidence in regard to this case at this location but, as part of due diligence, sections are being searched,” Oxford Community Police Service spokesperson Laurie-Anne Maitland indicated in a media release.

Police investigators contacted county officials Sunday about their plans to search the Salford-area dump. Clad in Tyvek protective suits, the officers began looking through the mounds of garbage at approximately 7:30 a.m., landfill supervisor Dave Vanmeeren said.

“It’s not the first time (a search) has happened here, but this is the most intensive that we’ve seen,” he said.

Despite the renewed intensity of the search, investigators had no new public information about Tori’s abduction. Even with the OPP assuming management of this joint investigation, the search for Tori does remain largely focused on the Woodstock area. On Monday, OCPS officers continued to canvass city neighbourhoods as part of the ongoing search. The OPP’s underwater search and recovery unit also continued to search the city’s waterways, focusing much of Monday’s efforts to Pittock Reservoir.

Tara McDonald, Tori’s mother, said investigators were “doing the best they can” to find her missing daughter.

“They’re looking everywhere they possibly can,” she said.

Tori was last seen on April 8 walking with an unidentified woman north along Fyfe Avenue shortly after leaving Oliver Stephens Public School at approximately 3:30 p.m. Video footage obtained from a high school security camera indicates the unidentified woman, who was wearing a white coat and tight black pants, is between 19 and 25 years old. The mystery woman, who investigators consider a crucial “person of interest,” is estimated to be roughly five foot two inches tall (157 centimetres) and 125 pounds (56 kilograms).

At the time of her abduction, Tori was wearing a green shirt, a denim skirt, black and white shoes, and a black Hannah Montana jacket with a white fur-lined hood. She may have been carrying a purple and pink Bratz shoulder bag. Tori is four foot five inches (134 centimetres) tall and weighs 62 pounds (28 kilograms). She has blue eyes and blonde hair cut just below her ears
http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/Art...aspx?e=1531761

[Rockin Ma]

WOODSTOCK, Ont. -- For the second day in a row, an Ontario mother pleaded Tuesday with those she presumes to be her daughter's captors to return eight-year-old Victoria Stafford, a Woodstock girl who has been missing for 13 days.

Tara McDonald said her daughter, Tori, as she liked to be called, was shown on a on a blurry surveillance video walking unusually quickly -- for her -- with an unidentified woman in a white jacket as the two left the girl's elementary school nearly two weeks ago.

"She dawdles," Ms. McDonald told reporters outside her Woodstock home, "She was walking quickly as if someone was saying to her ‘let's go, hurry up.' "

Although police have no clue as to the whereabouts of the little girl, Ms. McDonald said she is strong in her resolve that Tori would be found alive.

"When we get her back she is going to be traumatized. ... We are not going to stop until we get our kid back."

Ms. McDonald continues to believe Tori was taken because of her attractive physical appearance and repeated a plea she made Monday for the captors to "just drop her off somewhere."

"I think it was just a crazy person who took my baby," she said. "She is an exceptionally beautiful child and that's why she was targeted."

Oxford County police said Tuesday they are continuing their search for Tori, but there are no new leads.

"Yes, it's continuing," Const. Laurie-Anne Maitland said. An underwater team is searching Pittock Lake, she said, and another is combing through the Oxford County landfill site. Other officers were still canvassing door-to-door.

Tori has been missing since April 8 when she failed to return home after school.

A dive team searched rivers, streams, and lakes in Woodstock on the weekend. They scoured, for the second time, the shallow waters of a pond in Southside Park on Saturday and Pittock Lake located in the outskirts north of the city on Sunday.

The searches came up empty.

Police are also continuing to follow up on tips. Const. Maitland said investigators have received more than 1,000 leads in the case. But she said investigators continue to urge the public to come forward with any information.

Woodstock is about 150 kilometres southwest of Toronto.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/can...tml?id=1518583

[Rockin Ma]

For the first time, investigators searching for clues into the abduction of eight-year-old Victoria "Tori" Stafford widened their hunt to outside this city -- combing through the county landfill through a grim rainfall yesterday.

The heavy rain forced about 20 members of the OPP emergency response unit to halt their search in the afternoon, but they're expected back at the Oxford County landfill today.

Police remained tight-lipped about what they were looking for, but a spokesman suggested they weren't looking for a body.

"We didn't have cadaver dogs there," said Oxford police Const. Laurie-Anne Maitland. "We are going through ... Woodstock's garbage."

But a retired police investigator specializing in abductions said police would be looking for anything and everything in the landfill.

"I think they are looking for any evidence of her, up to and including her body," said Dave Perry, head of Investigative Solutions Network and a 27-year-veteran of the Toronto police who acted as lead investigator on several child abduction cases.

The OPP's underwater search and recovery unit also widened its hunt yesterday, moving from the south end of Pittock Lake to the north end at the edge of the city.

Neither search has found any sign of Tori, Maitland said.

News of a search at the landfill outside the city did nothing to dishearten Tara McDonald, into day 13 of the search for her missing daughter.

"It is not comforting but they are looking everywhere they possibly can," she said outside her home.

She put on a hopeful face for reporters, fighting tears as she imagined how her daughter would handle the abductors.

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"I guarantee she has been a hellion," McDonald said, smiling through sniffles.

McDonald's family has set up two bank accounts for donations, one to help pay for counselling and a trust fund for the children, and the other for living expenses.

Tori's brother, Daryn Stafford, needs counselling, McDonald said.

"He had a very, very bad night last night," she said, her voice strained.

"He came downstairs crying and I held him in my arms like a baby. He cried because he could see his sister's room and he knew she wasn't in it."

http://sudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1532690

[Whisper]

I had to quit reading a book Ive been reading.Last night it got to the murders of Christine Jessop and Allison Parrott who were both missing and murdered in Toronto which is right near where Victoria is missng from.Its written by 2 American FBI profilers that happened to be here during the search for Christine Jessop and they gave Canadian police exactly right down to the position of the body all the info they needed to catch the killers in these cases.I wish they were here again and could offer insight.So being that I can sit behind comp and be anonymous kinda I emailed.Something totally out of character for me but I emailed and left email addy back and hoping maybe 1 of them will at least take a minute to answer it back .I know its nuts but theres just way to many missing kids lately and I know its not any diff from before but Im just hopeful

[Just my luck sucks]

"I guarantee she has been a hellion," McDonald said, smiling through sniffles

Please, someone find this small innocent child. Hopefully alive.

[Shellie435]

McDonald's family has set up two bank accounts for donations, one to help pay for counselling and a trust fund for the children, and the other for living expenses.
http://sudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1532690

Why do they need to take a collection for living expenses? Do the parents work? If so you'd think they're employers would give them paid time off during this time. And if they are working, you'd have to assume they have insurance of some sort that would cover counselling for the entire family. Sorry, but it really bugs me when a child goes missing there is almost always an account set up for donations. As if it's a money making opportunity.

[Whisper]

I agree.I actually cant remember any other families asking for money.I know after a body is found many places set up accounts to help pay funeral costs but not fucking living expenses.I just dont like this whole case since day 1

[Rockin Ma]

WOODSTOCK, Ont. - The mother of Victoria Stafford says any suggestion that a composite sketch of her daughter's abductor looks like her makes her laugh.


Tara McDonald says people who are making that suggestion on the social networking site Facebook should be ashamed.


At a news conference, McDonald says the sketch looks nothing like her and adds she knows she had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance.


She says the composite sketch reminds her ex-husband of a high school classmate, but McDonald adds she doesn't recognize the face and that she and Rodney Stafford went to different schools.


Victoria, known as Tori to her family and friends, went missing April 8 after leaving school.


In addition to the sketch, police have released a grainy video of the Grade 3 student walking with a woman outside her school the day she went missing.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/0...missing_girl_7

[Rockin Ma]

A composite sketch of the suspect in the disappearance of Victoria Stafford has raised suspicions" among her father's family about the identity of her abductor, suspicions the eight-year-old girl's aunts and uncles said Wednesday they've shared with police.

The sketch, which portrays a woman with long dark hair tightly pulled back in a ponytail, builds on video evidence of a woman with long brown hair and a puffy white coat walking with Victoria on the day she went missing -- April 8.

The girl's father, a weary-looking Rodney Stafford, gathered with his siblings, brother-in-law and his mother Wednesday afternoon, as they have often done these torturous two weeks, and discussed the question on everyone's lips : who is that woman?

We do have suspicions," Tori's uncle, Steve Millen, said.

We have our own beliefs and we have brought those to the authorities," Tori's aunt Rebecca Stafford added, choosing her words carefully. We've shared those beliefs and they are being investigated."

It has been two weeks since Victoria, known as Tori, vanished, but for her father it just seems like one long, horrible nightmare from which he cannot awake.

Stafford, 33, is told he calls out his daughter's name in his sleep.

We'll find Victoria," he says in his restless slumber. She's coming home."

Tori and her 10-year-old brother Daryn live with their mother, Tara McDonald, and her boyfriend, James Goris, near the children's school. McDonald and Stafford split up several years ago.

McDonald said she has been studying the sketch, but said it doesn't resemble anyone she knows.

I've been staring at it all night and I don't have a clue at all," she said outside her home
http://nugget.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1536103

[Rockin Ma]

WOODSTOCK -- Some relatives of Victoria "Tori" Stafford believe they recognize the suspected abductor of the eight-year-old in a newly released police composite sketch.

But they insist the mysterious woman isn't a family member.

"I can't see it being any member of Tori's family," Tori's aunt, Rebecca Stafford, said yesterday, the 14th day since the girl vanished with a mysterious woman after school.

Tori's mother, meanwhile, told reporters she has no idea who the woman is.

"I've been staring at it all night and I don't have a clue at all. I don't even recognize the facial features," Tara McDonald said during a news conference outside her home.

McDonald also said she's not involved in her daughter's disappearance, but hasn't got back results of a police lie detector test she took.

"I know that at the end of the day, I have had nothing to do with this," she said.

The sketch of the woman -- she was seen walking with Tori after school April 8, in images from a nearby high school security video -- was based on a witness's memory, police said.

Who that woman is has baffled police and the public, and until the sketch was released late Tuesday, had no face.

"There are individuals in the family that have beliefs about the woman in the sketch. Our beliefs have been shared with the police," Rebecca Stafford said. "For me, personally, I can't say that I was completely taken aback by the picture. But at the same time I don't know the individual well enough."

Another family member said the woman looked a lot like a high school friend of Tori's father, Rodney Stafford.

http://intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1535825

[FlightForm]

Something about this strikes me as very, very odd. Fishy, even.
The person walking with the girl - the family is completely baffled to who she might be. So this is to assume the girl didn't know suspect-woman until that day? And yet she seems to be walking comfortably with her, like the father said. I am assuming Victoria walks home from school. But the lady obviously met up with her at the school, seeing as how they are walking away from the school together.
Anyone who has kids knows how crowded school areas are after the bell rings. You would think that suspect lady would have had to spend at least several minutes conversing with Victoria to manipulate her to comfortably be walking away.... And yet nobody has any information that can help?
I don't get it.....

[Rockin Ma]

When Victoria Stafford was born on July 15, 2008, her father held the tiny newborn in his arms, kissed her on the forehead and promised her he would never let anything happen to her.
“I feel like I broke that promise,” Rodney Stafford said Sunday, his weary voice faltering with emotion.
“I don’t know where she is. I can’t be there to protect her — and that kills me.”
The bubbly and bright eight-year-old girl vanished on April 8 after leaving school. She can be seen on surveillance video walking with a woman, who 18 days later, remains unidentified. A composite sketch of the mystery woman was released late at night on April 21.
More than 1,500 tips have poured in to police in Woodstock, Ont., but the woman has still not been named. Relatives have said they have “suspicions” about who the drawing resembles, but have not elaborated.
A brief clip about Victoria aired on the TV show “America’s Most Wanted” on Saturday night, but it was just a few seconds long and did not show the surveillance tape or the composite sketch.
About 25 tips alone came in between 6 p.m. Saturday and 6 a.m. Sunday, police said. The television show aired at 9 p.m. ET.
Stafford wishes the segment was longer, but knows that his daughter’s story has now reached much further.
It has been nearly three weeks since the abduction of his “baby girl,” and Stafford has been trying to stay strong for himself and for his 11-year-old son Daryn.
But pent up emotion spilled over this weekend as he watched a video someone had put together on YouTube and he was reminded of the day his daughter was born.
“I couldn’t handle it and I broke down,” he says, speaking from his mother’s house in nearby Ingersoll, Ont.
“My little niece came over and gave me a hug and she said, ‘It’s OK. It’s OK Uncle Rodney. Tori will come home.”’
Stafford knows his son’s heart has been aching, but he is proud at how strong Daryn has been.
It was especially tough for him on Friday, which was his 11th birthday. Daryn and his father went for a walk that day and Stafford says the boy told him he misses his sister, who is also his best friend.
“He said he was wishing that by the time his birthday came around she would be back so he could have his birthday with his sister,” Stafford says.
As for Stafford, he says his little Tori is always on his mind, even when he is asleep.
“Every dream I have is about Victoria,” he says. Sometimes he dreams about her coming home, other times she will be in a dream and magically disappear.
“It’s taking a toll mentally on me.”
http://www.capebretonpost.com/index....=245669&sc=145

[Rockin Ma]

Investigators probing the abduction of eight-year-old Victoria (Tori) Stafford, got a boost Saturday night after the U.S. crime show, America’s Most Wanted, aired a segment on the little girl’s disappearance.


OPP received tips on the case after the show aired — though not as many as they had prepared for.


“We haven’t received a great influx of calls but we have received some calls,” said Oxford OPP Const. Dennis Harwood.


Police were still canvassing door-to-door Sunday and following up on more than 1,500 tips they have received in the case so far.


Searchers took a break from combing through the Oxford County landfill in their search for clues Sunday, but Harwood said they would return to the site Monday.


Tori, a Grade 3 pupil at Oliver Stephens public school, has been missing since April 8.




She was last seen after school that day — on security video shot from a nearby high school — walking with an unidentified woman north on Fyfe Avenue.
http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/Art...aspx?e=1540794

[Nell]

When Victoria Stafford was born on July 15, 2008, her father held the tiny newborn in his arms, kissed her on the forehead and promised her he would never let anything happen to her.

Really?? Was this child named the same thing as her missing sister? Cause if this was true the kid is not yet a year old. Does no one in the media proofread anymore?

[Rockin Ma]

McDonald says that while the media was camped out on her front lawn waiting for her daily update, a limousine driver walked through her yard and knocked on her back door. When she answered he said he had a wealthy boss who wanted to meet her.

So Tara, her boyfriend, brother, and best friend, got into the limo.

"I felt calm with him. I didn't feel nervous," she explained.



She then claims the limo took them to the Sheraton hotel near Pearson airport. She then says she went alone to a suite on a top floor and met a person who insisted they must remain anonymous.

The person said their own child was abducted and killed, and that they wanted to help.

"They just landed in Toronto, turned on the news and saw the story and wanted to do something," she adds.

That something is apparently money --- any sum Victoria's kidnapper's want.

Even though there has been no ransom demand, McDonald now hopes this offer of money will bring her little girl back home.

In the meantime, police are looking into the offer.

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_34077.aspx

[Whisper]

McDonald says that while the media was camped out on her front lawn waiting for her daily update, a limousine driver walked through her yard and knocked on her back door. When she answered he said he had a wealthy boss who wanted to meet her.

So Tara, her boyfriend, brother, and best friend, got into the limo.

"I felt calm with him. I didn't feel nervous," she explained.



She then claims the limo took them to the Sheraton hotel near Pearson airport. She then says she went alone to a suite on a top floor and met a person who insisted they must remain anonymous.

The person said their own child was abducted and killed, and that they wanted to help.

"They just landed in Toronto, turned on the news and saw the story and wanted to do something," she adds.

That something is apparently money --- any sum Victoria's kidnapper's want.

Even though there has been no ransom demand, McDonald now hopes this offer of money will bring her little girl back home.

In the meantime, police are looking into the offer.

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_34077.aspx

Doesnt sound right to me

[rebel450]

Doesnt sound right to me

sounds pretty fishy to me. Hope they get to the bottom of it.

[Whisper]

This to me is a ploy to make it look like they are sure shes alive.By saying this they are attempting to make themselves look better in the publics eye(like ,look this guy believes us b/c hes been through it so he wants to help so quit digging my boyfriends past criminal record out!!).They are attempting to make it look like a everyday thing b/c someone else has been through it and lost a child and wants to help them.They are exploiting child abductions to their advantage with the blood of THE REAL abducted kids that havent made it home.Im sorry I see crack pipes all over these people.I believe Victorias dad isnt in on it & hes being played just as the public is.B/C if this had happened(someone offering unlimited money) that would have a huge ground breaking effect.And as you can read and see they didnt pick Victorias dad up to go!!Didnt call him and let him know what was going on.Im pretty positive hes been at each days update .Except that day??.B/C hes got no clue about the truth.I personally believe Victoria either A) Made it home and something happened whether it was accident or the penis.Have they checked to see if the mom had a puffy white coat??Since video so blurry cant see face.Im wondering if that video is dated and if not could that be mom walking her home a diff day.I know sounds crazy but Im grasping and B)I wonder if they owe drug money (as I have said from beginning) and this announcement was made b/c they have now scraped together the money they owe them and this is a signal to them they have all their money now. I know I over think sometimes but somethings not right here.I bet that story is to get to the people holding her that they have their money and to make contact with them.And sad thing is after all this time I believe shes gone b/c whos going to risk keeping kid that age so long and turn her over when moneys paid.She would know the people and talk and they would be caught and put away for life.And C))Thats why shes walking with the woman so freely b/c she knows her from her moms crowd OR D)K this is longshot,,is that 100% a woman in the video,very blurry cant make out face,could that be a guy dressed up lol its happened before.Its just how her moms so convinced Victoria knows her(supposed woman in video) b/c she wouldnt go with her if not.Just like casey anthony "she can feel Victorias alive b/c a mother knows these things?Theres just something weird going on.Why didnt this person come forward and offer money for CAYLEE???Or Cedricka in Montreal,or any of the other missing kids in Ontario??

[donegaveup]

Many Thanks for all the updates about Victoria. I come here everyday thinking today is the day I'm going to read how she was found safe. I hate saying it but this latest story about the Sheraton Hotel is very discouraging. It's just too weird for words. I actually felt my heart sink as I read it.

Whisperwing....I'm with you, something is very wrong with all of this but what????

[Whisper]

I dont know whats wrong with it.But to go with my gut feeling I think its basically over drugs.I think this is a signal or ploy for lack of better word to get ahold of who ever they owed money to for drugs.Who ever mom and penis owed money to is long gone.Its not as much publicity as CAYLEE but still publicity where nobody in drugs and dealings wants to attract attention.I think that they havent heard from the dealers in a long time and are scared and figured this was the only way to get their attention.I have a horrible feeling thats what its about and shes not with us anymore.I live close to here and yet Cedrika that vanished 1.5-2 yrs ago has more face time out there.Which I have no problem with except Victoria lives here and Cedrika is from a thousand miles away.

[Unamused Cat]

More and more, I think the mom had something to do with Victoria's mom had something to do with this.

[Rockin Ma]

She says there was no formal introduction between the two but believes the person and offer was genuine.

The group drove to Toronto Thursday evening, but waited until yesterday to reveal the latest development in the case that has captured the attention of national media. McDonald says she wanted to speak with police first.

Victoria's father Rodney Stafford also attended the Tuesday afternoon press conference and said he thinks it's great such an offer has been made, but did add he would have liked to have been a part of the meeting.

http://woodstocksentinelreview.com/A...aspx?e=1543641

[Whisper]

So do I UC.I mean c'mon how stupid are we(or how stupid does she want us to be) .Can she tell me that with all that media around that house or trailer they live in that not one person saw a limo pull up out back and a guy in starched suit and hat walk up to door and knock??And not 1 of them saw this car or person??Both my kids had the limo and driver for prom and those guys are usually also very large.So how come nobody saw anything at all.I have a gut feeling and Im just going to go with it and the fake mom concern she has shown.I have never heard of a mom saying that she hopes its a stranger that took her daughter??Why b/c she knows the people she owes money to would hurt a little girl over mamas debts or the penis debts.She probrably figures Victoria would be safer with a stranger how disgusting is that??And she may be covering for the penis.Hes been in enough trouble and they seem to be digging more up each day.

[donegaveup]

When I read "Small Sacrifices" by Ann Rule I was struck by how in depth she went when describing and explaining Diana Downs' behavior. It's been quite awhile since I read the book but I remember vividly how Downs brought suspicion upon herself by her inappropriate behavior and actions. Downs told many a tall tale herself. This mother seems to be doing the same thing.

Seriously....how many wealthy strangers appear out of nowhere and offer large amounts of money to mothers of missing children? Sure...it COULD happen it just seems unlikely. About the limo...why did no one else see it? Was it an invisible limo? Is this rich stranger not only caring and generous but magical as well?

There are just too many odd components being added to this story all the time. It's doing my head in.

[Whisper]

WOW thats weird!!I have every Ann Rule book she has written and I am finishing Empty Promises tonight and right beside it is Small Sacrifices!!!I planned on starting tonight after Im finished with Empty Promises.I read alot and have like I said all her books now I will pay even more attention when I read it.TY,Thats kinda like I just read BTK the Dennis Radar story.I read the other day that the FBI agent thought Dennis Radar and Melissa Huckaby were alot alike(She killed Sandra Cantu).I didnt think so at first but when I thought about it they are clones except for 1s male and 1s female.

[Rockin Ma]

Has anyone noticed anywhere how close the video camera was to the elementary school? The reason I wonder is because when school gets out the same people are at the school picking up their kids every single day. While not giving it much thought, they have probably seen this little girl countless times walking home. I have to wonder if anyone noticed a strange person at the school when it let out, or just notice this person walking with her when they had never noticed before.

[donegaveup]

Rockin Ma.....that is a very good point. It's like when you look at something so long you don't really see it anymore but you would indeed notice something different. I remember picking my kids up and pretty much "knowing" which kid went with what car.

It's quite possible that someone did see something at the school but doesn't realize it. I don't know how many times I've read that a vital witness is not found until much later. The witness waits to be questioned and the police question why the witness never came forward.

[Whisper]

I agree Rockin.My kids went to St.Wilfrid and my back yard went into the school yard but it was always same people people walking home with their kids.I didnt know them by name but I did to see them and say hi and same people and same kids each day.Theres just something about her walking with this woman/man dressed like woman and Victoria walking with her.I really wish if these cameras are here to help us in cases like this ,then why cant they make one that gives us a clear pictureHow many times have we seen a "grainy video,or not to focused video" or picture on the news or Americas Most Wanted.Wish I had a million to invest in making a damn camera that takes a actual picture or video that you could see and not have to guess.