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    Teen Emerges From Life In The German Woods


    Authorities have not released a photo of Ray.
    An English-speaking teenager who walked out of the forest near Berlin told police he had been living in the woods for five years with his father, but had no idea who he was or where he came from.

    Authorities have launched a Europe-wide appeal for information about the boy, who is somewhere between 16 and 18 years old, and says his name is Ray.

    “We have sent appeals for help to all European countries via Interpol. The boy speaks English and a little German but we really have no idea where he comes from,” Michael Maaß, spokesman for the Berlin police told The Local on Friday.

    The boy emerged from the woods on September 5, and said he had been living wild with his father for about five years.

    The pair had left civilisation when his mother, who the boy said was called Doreen, died. The boy said he and his father, who he said was called Ryan, had not set up a home but had kept moving.

    They had slept in a tent and huts they found in the woods, he told them.

    Maaß said the boy had told youth workers he could remember nothing about where he came from, nor anything much more than his own first name.

    Two weeks ago he found his father had died, and buried him in a shallow grave which he covered with stones, he told them.

    “His father had told him to look at his compass and go north, if anything should happen. And this is apparently what he did, walking for two weeks before reaching Berlin,” said Maaß.

    “There he found a youth emergency centre and walked in. We have never seen anything like it. We have no evidence to contradict what he has told our colleagues at the youth services, although we are still investigating, and very much want to find out who he is.”
    [...]

    He said the boy had been medically examined and was physically healthy, while there was nothing to suggest he was the victim of any kind of abuse or violence.
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    http://www.thelocal.de/society/20110916-37631.html

    In a bizarre story that recalls European folk tales of a feral or "wolf child" brought up in the forest, an English-speaking boy emerged from the woods near Berlin last week with no idea who he was or where he came from.
    [...]

    According to the teen, the pair left civilization when his mother (who he calls Doreen) died in a car accident. They never set up a home, but instead moved through the woods, sleeping in a tent and earthen huts they found in the forest.

    It is unclear what they ate or how they survived the often harsh German winters.
    http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/2154...h-speaking.htm

    British consular staff are working with police in Berlin trying to identify an teenager who walked out of a German forest speaking English and knowing only his first name.
    [...]

    A Foreign Office spokesman said consular staff were assisting officials in Berlin but it was not yet known if the boy, thought to be 17 or 18, was a British national.

    Berlin police said they had approached Interpol to see if the boy matched any missing person reports. Officers will not know the results of the inquiry until Monday.

    Detectives are going over everything Ray has told them to establish a picture of his background and biography.
    [...]

    Claudia Elitok, of Berlin police, said: "He speaks fluent English and a few words in German.
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    Sonehow I just don't quite believe this story as it is written, someone of his apparent age would have memories of 5 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Sonehow I just don't quite believe this story as it is written, someone of his apparent age would have memories of 5 years ago.
    If it is as he says -- it sounds like a Dissociative Fugue -- happened to my uncle 30odd years ago after his wife was killed in a wreck, only he didn't take his kid with him.. he was finally 'found' in the late 90s.


    A fugue in progress often is difficult for others to recognize because the person’s outward behavior appears normal. Symptoms of dissociative fugue might include the following:

    Sudden and unplanned travel away from home
    Inability to recall past events or important information from the person’s life
    Confusion or loss of memory about his or her identity, possibly assuming a new identity to make up for the loss
    Extreme distress and problems with daily functioning (due to the fugue episodes)
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    Intriguing.
    Going to forawrd this to my coldcases.
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    Very similar to this guy, except he was a german who was found in England:

    Picked up on a beach in Sheerness, England, he had no papers, was soaking wet and was wearing a suit which had all the labels cut out. He then spent four-and-a-half months in various English clinics, without saying one word. Instead he just played the piano. Until, that is, the Friday before last, when he suddenly offered his name and where he was from: a farm in the Bavarian woods, a few kilometers from the Czech border.

    For some 130 days, the "Piano Man" served up a riddle to the world. It became a story which offered something for everyone: romantic dreams of genius, innocence, and solitude. Now, though the mystery has been solved, the release of his name, age (20), and his parent's hometown (Waldmünchen in Bavaria), do little more than create more questions about the Grassl.
    Very interesting story, you will find more at link http://www.spiegel.de/international/...372244,00.html
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    I think the obvious answer here is alien abduction.
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    Fake pic? Those teeth and that mouth just don't look natural.


    Two weeks after his arrival in the capital, German police are still baffled as to the true identity of the teenager, who is now being cared for by social services, and are preparing to launch a public appeal.


    But it emerged Monday that after telling his incredible story to City Hall staff he was shown the door and instructed how to reach a youth support centre using public transport.


    A civil servant who was the first to speak at length with the boy on his arrival at the administrative centre has told the Daily Telegraph that he was a "normal looking teenager" but said it quickly emerged that he had an extraordinary story to tell.


    "He didn't look like at all like a vagrant – he didn't smell, he was clean, his clothes were clean but he simply didn't know anything about who he was," said the female office worker who was called to front desk at the Rathaus by security guards because she speaks English.


    Carrying a rucksack and sleeping bag, the teenager called Ray walked through the doors at the impressive red brick building near Alexanderplatz in the centre of Berlin around 4pm on Monday 5 September.
    "He said he needed help, that he didn't know where to go and had no one in the world to look after him. I tried as much as I could to find out details about where he was from but he just didn't know."

    The teenager, who is described as blond and blue eyed and around 5'11", said he only knew that his first name was Ray and that he was 17 years old.

    "He had only a few words of German but was completely fluent in English, and said that his father had told him it was an important language," said the civil servant who asked not to be named. "Although he seemed to be a native English speaker, I detected some sort of accent."

    The boy told the civil servant that he had been travelling around with his father, who it is thought was named Ryan, for "as long as he could remember" but his father had died and so he had followed his compass north.

    "He seemed calm, not scared at all, but quiet. He said he had been told to go to Berlin if he ever needed help and had taken several weeks to walk here," she said.

    Police said he later described how he had been living in a forest for "at least five years" following the death of his mother in a car crash but that his father had recently died in a fall so he buried him in a shallow grave before walking to Berlin.

    "He mentioned that his mother had died in a car crash when he was a child and I got the impression he had been in the car too because he then said he had been left with scars on his legs but he didn't show them to me," the civil servant said.

    The civil servant described how she attempted to find out where he might be from and had to explain to him the concept of a passport.

    "He looked completely puzzled when I asked him if he had a passport or identity card and I had to describe what they were. But he said he could read because his father had taught him," she said.

    The civil servant contacted child welfare services and was told to direct him to a crisis centre in another part of the city.

    "I printed off a map for him, wrote some instructions and told him how to buy a ticket for the U-bahn (the metro). He pulled some coins from his pocket and asked if it was enough and then I sent him on his way."

    "He said he was looking forward to sleeping in a bed after all that time in a tent and off he went," she said. "It was the strangest encounter I've ever had and I do hope they can find out more about him."

    At the Jugendnotdienst youth shelter – in the Charlottenburg district of Berlin where the teenager was sent, staff said they were unable to comment on the case. But one German teenager residing there remembered his stay.

    "He was here for a few days, possibly a week before being transferred elsewhere last week," said the youth. "He only spoke a few words of German so we couldn't really communicate but we watched television together and shared some cigarettes."

    Berlin police have made an appeal to Interpol to widen the search for his identity to forces across the world but said on Monday that they had yet to get any response.

    Authorities would assign a legal guardian to the boy, a police spokesman said, before the next step in the investigation could proceed.
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    Strange. I'm really wondering if it's a hoax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tundratot View Post
    Strange. I'm really wondering if it's a hoax.
    If it is, and he doesn't get caught, he'll buy himself a year of government services, all he's got to do is keep his story straight.
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    @Amazon - I think that's a sketch, not an actual photograph.
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    Damn good sketch... well, except for mouth and teeth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty View Post
    If it is as he says -- it sounds like a Dissociative Fugue -- happened to my uncle 30odd years ago after his wife was killed in a wreck, only he didn't take his kid with him.. he was finally 'found' in the late 90s.


    http://my.clevelandclinic.org/disord...ive_fugue.aspx
    So true Kitty - one of my diagnosis is Dissociative D/O related to PTSD issues. It's really weird - almost like an out of body experience. My therapist used to say I was "floating". It's a coping skill that protects a person from the trauma that is happening. I can recall maybe 10 memories of my childhood to the age of 16. I look at my childhood pictures and it's like looking at someone else.

    Whatever happened to him must have been so horrific that he blocked most of his memories. I'm surprised a psych eval hasn't been done on him.
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    He looks like a character from a low budget CGI movie, you knoe the ones where they move all jerky and stiff...
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    [...]
    Yesterday, those dense woods - above the town of Schlettau in German's Ore mountains that run the length of the country's south-eastern border with the Czech Republic - felt eerily remote and dark even at midday because of the acre upon acre of towering fir trees that shut out the light.

    At first, the silence of the forest was broken only by the sound the wind swishing through the tree tops and the sound of woodpeckers hammering on tree trunks.

    But the sensation of being alone was cut short every 20 minutes or so by the crunch of hikers' boots on forest paths and the clack of their aluminium walking sticks. Jens Nixdorf, an Ore mountain forester for more than 30 years who knows the region like the back of his hand, doubted that anyone could live rough and undetected for long periods of time in the forests.

    "If there are not hikers in the woods there are hunters. They would notice anyone camping out in the wild very quickly and I, or one of my colleagues, would be informed about it," he told The Independent yesterday.
    [...]

    Deep inside what is alleged to have been "Ray's" and his father's stomping ground for five years, there was considerable scepticism about the boy's claims.

    Mr Nixdorf said there had been only one reported case of an alleged hermit living rough in the Ore mountain woods over the past three decades. "His story was shown on television and the journalists promised not to reveal where he was living. He hung out in a home-made bungalow and appeared to be quite comfortable," Mr Nixdorf told The Independent.

    But he added: "The Ore mountains are so full of tourists. The area is simply too densely populated to make living in a tent or a hole in the ground possible for any length of time. You would be noticed if you did that."

    His opinion was supported by Ronny Schmidt, a former German army paratrooper, who runs Team Survival, a school specialising in survival training courses in the woods close to Germany's border with the Czech Republic. On his week-long survival courses, he teaches pupils to dine on maggots and start fires Stone-Age style, with a friction bow and pieces of wood.

    Mr Schmidt dismissed the idea of living rough for a protracted period anywhere in Germany. "This would be possible in remote regions of, say, Canada, where one could survive on the wildlife if one had the right rifle, but in Germany there is not really enough wildlife to go round," he told The Independent. "Even if you spent five years camping out, in a civilised country like Germany at some stage you would end up having to go to a supermarket. I just don't believe it."

    Mr Nixdorf said that there was a slim possibility of being able to live rough and undetected on the Czech side of the Ore mountains which lost most of its original German-speaking population after the Second World War and has since been only sparsely repopulated with Czechs.

    "The Czech side is just as forested but there are less people living there. There is just a remote possibility of being able to camp out there without being seen, but it is really remote," he said.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=10753595

    German police believe Ray may have walked the 150 miles to Berlin from the woods, and they have linked up with their Czech counterparts through Interpol.

    ‘If this lead proves true, then he would have walked all the way to Berlin from the Czech Republic,’ said a source close to the case.

    ‘This would have been a much harder prospect than simply walking from woods south of Berlin, which is what many believed he had done up until now.’
    [...]

    Those who have spent time with him report that he is not a rough forager but a gentle person who knows how to use cutlery, takes showers, enjoys bowling and watching TV.

    Far from being a savage who finds it difficult to mix with others or adapt to a homely environment, he is described as normal and kindly.

    He stayed in an emergency hostel in Berlin for 11 days, where supervisor Beate Kohn, 50, had contact with him.

    She told The Times that although Ray does not remember his surname or any details of his past, he shared a room with another boy, went bowling and seemed comfortable in his surroundings.

    'He was very, very kindly to everybody, with the other kids and with us.

    'He watched TV, he went outdoors, he took little walks and joined the activities, like bowling.'
    [...]

    'He had moments where he appeared uneasy but generally he settled in well and appeared comfortable,' she said.

    'There were no problems with him and he seemed happy to be inside, to sleep in a comfortable bed and take regular showers.'

    On Monday it emerged that Ray’s first words on arriving in Berlin on September 5 were: ‘I’m alone in the world. I don't know who I am. Please help me.'

    A German civil servant who spoke to him said: ‘He said he needed help, that he didn't know where to go and had no one in the world to look after him.

    ‘I tried as much as I could to find out details about where he was from but he just didn't know.

    ‘He seemed calm, not scared at all, but quiet. He said he had been told to go to Berlin if he ever needed help and had taken several weeks to walk here.’
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    This is very interesting DV, It certainly leads someone to believe that he has lived a civilized life instead of camping in the woods for the last 5 years.
    I can tell you from having been at sea for extended periods of time. Up to 4 months, you come back to the real world and it is an adjustment. malls are frightening, you don't want to drive and you are behind on all kinds of things.
    I wonder if someone gave him a cell phone if he would start downloading. There are all kinds of little tests to see if he has truly been isolated for the last 5 years.
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    I didn't read much more after this:
    There he found a youth emergency centre and walked in.
    What are the odds that this kid would just happen upon this centre and be calm and collected? A "wolf child" is the last thing this kid is in my opinion. Sounds to me like this is probably a run away looking for help and never wanting to return to where ever he came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerri Blank View Post
    What are the odds that this kid would just happen upon this centre and be calm and collected? A "wolf child" is the last thing this kid is in my opinion. Sounds to me like this is probably a run away looking for help and never wanting to return to where ever he came from.
    It's not exactly reported where he turned up. Various articles say he was directed by someone on the street to Berlin City Hall where he was turned over to a youth emergency shelter.

    No one is claiming he's a feral child. Even he says they didn't go living in the woods until he was 12yrs old. Presumably - because he says he can't remember - he was brought up as a normal kid with a normal life before his mom died (according to him). The mystery comes because he says he can't remember anything before going off to live in the woods. Who is he? Where did he come from? I wouldn't be surprised to find out he's a runaway... or an amnesiac. It's just a curiosity.

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    But it emerged Monday that after telling his incredible story to City Hall staff he was shown the door and instructed how to reach a youth support centre using public transport.

    A civil servant who was the first to speak at length with the boy on his arrival at the administrative centre has told the Daily Telegraph that he was a "normal looking teenager" but said it quickly emerged that he had an extraordinary story to tell.

    "He didn't look like at all like a vagrant – he didn't smell, he was clean, his clothes were clean but he simply didn't know anything about who he was," said the female office worker who was called to front desk at the Rathaus by security guards because she speaks English.

    Carrying a rucksack and sleeping bag, the teenager called Ray walked through the doors at the impressive red brick building near Alexanderplatz in the centre of Berlin around 4pm on Monday 5 September.

    "He said he needed help, that he didn't know where to go and had no one in the world to look after him. I tried as much as I could to find out details about where he was from but he just didn't know."
    [...]

    "He had only a few words of German but was completely fluent in English, and said that his father had told him it was an important language," said the civil servant who asked not to be named. "Although he seemed to be a native English speaker, I detected some sort of accent."
    [...]

    The civil servant described how she attempted to find out where he might be from and had to explain to him the concept of a passport.

    "He looked completely puzzled when I asked him if he had a passport or identity card and I had to describe what they were. But he said he could read because his father had taught him," she said.

    The civil servant contacted child welfare services and was told to direct him to a crisis centre in another part of the city.

    "I printed off a map for him, wrote some instructions and told him how to buy a ticket for the U-bahn (the metro). He pulled some coins from his pocket and asked if it was enough and then I sent him on his way."

    "He said he was looking forward to sleeping in a bed after all that time in a tent and off he went," she said. "It was the strangest encounter I've ever had and I do hope they can find out more about him."
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    What kind of shoes was this kid wearing? Because teenage boy's feet grow like weeds. If he has sneakers that are no less than a year old then he wasn't living rough for 5 years. I think he either ran away and made up this BS story to be famous or he killed his father, buried him and is now spouting this nonsense.

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    The "Piano Man" who was the german guy found in england was a hoax too, this guy is just doing some type of copycat shit for attention...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post
    It's not exactly reported where he turned up. Various articles say he was directed by someone on the street to Berlin City Hall where he was turned over to a youth emergency shelter.

    No one is claiming he's a feral child. Even he says they didn't go living in the woods until he was 12yrs old. Presumably - because he says he can't remember - he was brought up as a normal kid with a normal life before his mom died (according to him). The mystery comes because he says he can't remember anything before going off to live in the woods. Who is he? Where did he come from? I wouldn't be surprised to find out he's a runaway... or an amnesiac. It's just a curiosity.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-help-me.html
    Thank you for a article with a more comprehensive explanation for the kid's journey on his own but I believe even more now he isn't what he claims to be, I mean they sent him on a bus and he didn't freak out and managed to arrive precisely where he was suppose to?

    I don't think he is feral but one of the above articles did make that correlation
    In a bizarre story that recalls European folk tales of a feral or "wolf child" brought up in the forest, an English-speaking boy emerged from the woods near Berlin last week with no idea who he was or where he came from.
    So that's why I mentioned the wolf boy thing. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

    I do agree I'm curious to what this is gonna turn out to be but I'm just a big ol neigh-sayer with many things these days.
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    Maybe his mom didn't die at all. Maybe the dad just told him that and took off. There's family somewhere that has to know him.
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    On September 5, a flaxen, mop-haired boy shows up at Berlin’s Town Hall with a tent and a rucksack. He claims to have been living rough with his father – now dead – for five years, deep in a German forest, before following his compass north for two weeks (or two days: versions vary) to seek help. He knows his name (Ray) and his birthday. He speaks good English, almost no German. The Press have named him “Forest Boy”. The police, so far, have bought his curious tale.
    Germany’s dark romance with its woodlands dates back to the days when Roman legions, hacking their way through the densely forested terrain stretching east from the Rhine, described an enchanted world peopled by unicorns (Julius Caesar) and firebirds (Pliny the Elder).
    Ludwig Tieck, a 19th-century German scholar, went in search of a lost Golden Age, and found ballads about poets and musicians who wandered from town to town through the great Teutonic forests. A century later, from those same forests, 12-year-old recruits to Himmler’s People’s Army launched attacks on the footsoldiers tramping behind America’s invading tanks. The Brothers Grimm, collecting carefully annotated folk fables for the benefit of scholars, not children, preserved the old German tales of Rapunzel, Hansel and Gretel, and Snow White: stories filled with horror, in which the woods are both threatening and protective.
    Woods, to the imagination, have always been romantic: wild; mysterious. Dante set the celebrated opening canto of Italy’s greatest poem in a dark, dense forest. Gawain plunged into the woods to wage battle against the Green Knight. French troubadours trilled their way through the knotted thickets of Broceliande. Robin Hood is as hard to disentangle from the mighty branches of Sherwood Forest as Tarzan and Mowgli are from their jungles.
    Where Germany has the edge on the rest of the world is in its long and venerable history of woodland orphans and recluses to whom “Forest Boy” has most recently added his name. Medieval Germany produced the mysterious wolf-children of Hesse and the Bamberg Boy, suckled by cattle and capable, it was alleged, of taking on and defeating the most ferocious wild dogs.
    Historically closer, “Peter, the Wild Boy” was captured, famously, from his retreat in woods near Hamelin in Hanover and presented, “a naked brownish, black-haired creature”, as a gift to George I. Brought to England and treated as an eccentric court pet, Peter would never learn to speak or write. Buried in a Hertfordshire graveyard in 1785, he was later judged, by his low stature, thick lips and drooping eyelids, to have suffered from Pitt-Hopkins Disease.
    A sickly nature, mental deficiency – or simply embarrassments of parentage – offer explanations as to why many of the forest children were left in the woods to die. Their sad little stories were preserved later in fairy tales of abandonment and subsequent rescue from a desperate fate by a lone and friendly forester.
    The most famous German forest child of them all – setting aside Frankenstein’s hapless Creature – seems to belong in this category, since his DNA has now proved to link him to the ducal house of Baden, to which, apparently, he was the heir.
    Kaspar Hauser – whose life was brilliantly told as an unsolved mystery by Werner Herzog in his 1974 film The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser – appeared on the streets of Nuremberg in 1828. Walking with the cautious movements of a drunk, he presented a letter addressed to a certain cavalry captain, who claimed never to have heard of him. Kaspar could pronounce his own name as well as, touchingly, the word for “horse”, but little else. Bafflingly, he carried books in his pockets, including one pamphlet poignantly entitled The Art of Replacing Lost Time and Years Badly Spent.
    Careful questioning elicited the information that Kaspar Hauser had been imprisoned for many years. Locked away in a lightless hutch, he had been kept in a state of almost complete ignorance. He spoke of a jailor who brought him food and taught him to say: “I want to be a cavalryman, like my father” – words to which he himself appeared to attach no significance. According to his new guardians, however, honesty was not Kaspar Hauser’s strongest trait. In 1833, Hauser died of a knife wound, one that may have been self-inflicted. His gravestone states, alluringly: “Here lies Kaspar Hauser, a riddle of his time”.
    So how well does Ray, this September’s blue-eyed English-speaking “Forest Boy”, fit into Germany’s tradition of woodland enigmas? The tent and rucksack suggest a primitive life, but hardly that of an orphaned outcast. The emerging picture, so far, appears to be closer to that of a father who, for whatever reason (we are told that Ray’s mother died in a car-crash), retreated into isolation, taking his son along for company.
    But why Germany? Because – some might suggest – Germany’s dark and deep forests offer one of the few European refuges in which it still might just be possible today to eke out a spartan life without risk of detection. Forest Boy’s five years in the wild offer – to judge by his glowing skin and shiny white teeth – a good advertisement for embattled retreat. His friendly smile and enthusiasm for cigarettes suggest that life with Dad wasn’t one of total deprivation.
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    I am very sceptical, too. His amnesia seems very spotty. He doesn't know who he is but knows his mother died in a car accident. Maybe I don't understand amnesia but it seems like he remembers some things very well and others, like who he is, not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerri Blank View Post
    Thank you for a article with a more comprehensive explanation for the kid's journey on his own but I believe even more now he isn't what he claims to be, I mean they sent him on a bus and he didn't freak out and managed to arrive precisely where he was suppose to?

    I don't think he is feral but one of the above articles did make that correlation
    [...]

    I do agree I'm curious to what this is gonna turn out to be but I'm just a big ol neigh-sayer with many things these days.
    I think anyone who emerges from the woods and claims to have been there for a while naturally brings to mind tales of feral people. Even if the person isn't feral themselves, so the mention makes sense to me. Just as mention of both verified and hoax cases makes sense.

    The thing that drives it home for me is the question HijabiGirl asked about shoes. And also what about his clothing? It's not like there's a Walmart in the woods.

    He may or may not have some sort of mental issue going on. That remains to be seen. It's a strange case. Somewhere someone has to know who he is.
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    I don't believe that this boy should be compared to feral children. He was not raised by wolves. He was raised, so he says, by his father. So he should have some social graces in keeping with human family life. However, the question about shoes and clothes does make sense. If he has worldly goods, clothes, shoes, money, there had to be some contact with civilization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    I am very sceptical, too. His amnesia seems very spotty. He doesn't know who he is but knows his mother died in a car accident. Maybe I don't understand amnesia but it seems like he remembers some things very well and others, like who he is, not so much.
    This is why I was thinking of a disassociative fugue..

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    Huh??
    The boy who walked into Berlin claiming to have spent the last five years in the forest has refused a public appeal, frustrating police who hoped to discover his true identity.

    "There is no one to appeal to - all my family are dead," he told the legal guardian appointed on Monday to look after his interests.

    Initial investigations by German police and Interpol have so far failed to shed light on the origins of the blond, blue-eyed boy known only as Ray, who claims to remember few details about his life and where he has been.

    The process had stalled while the authorities waited for a legal guardian to be assigned to the boy because he is under 18 and considered a minor under German law.

    Police had hoped that a legal guardian would give permission for a photograph to be released of the boy in a worldwide appeal for information. They also hoped that further linguistic analysis, DNA sampling or dental records might provide clues to his identity.

    But the boy has so far refused all offers to help him discover his history and have his photograph published. Instead he wants "to be left to get on with his life".

    A police spokesman confirmed that a legal guardian - a female social worker - had been appointed by the family court on Monday afternoon, but that contrary to their hopes the move had so far failed to unlock the investigation.

    "Unfortunately it seems that the boy told his guardian that he wasn't interested in discovering who he was," Thomas Neuendorf, of the Berlin Police, told The Daily Telegraph.
    [...]

    "We've asked the guardian to speak to the boy again and try to change his mind," Mr Neuendorf said. "At this point a worldwide public appeal may be the only way will ever discover who he really is."
    [...]

    "We've questioned him numerous times but he hasn't remembered anything new, he can't give us any facts about how he has spent the last months and years," said Mr Neuendorf ,adding: "His account raises questions and at the moment we have no way of knowing if he's telling the truth."

    The youth welfare office charged with his care reports that he was in a good state of health, both physically and mentally, and appeared to be happy.

    "They say that if his welfare is ok and he is happy as things are, then there is no reason to do anything other than leave him to get on with his life," Mr Neuendorf said.

    "It is frustrating but if he doesn't want to help us we have to consider that we may never know who he really is."
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    Yep. Hoax for sure.
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    When you look at a place like Germany with that kind of population density and such, you can't walk five days through 'wilderness' much less hide in it for five years without encountering not just people, but 1st world civilization. I've been to Europe, and hosted German foreign exchangers here when I was in high school.

    I lived in Idaho growing up, and taking a couple Germans up to Yellowstone they were dumbfounded at some of the places you could see for miles and miles up there and not see a single town or signature of peeps. And I mean dumbfounded they thought it was Mars or something. No way you can 'hide in the woods' - especially within fifty miles of Berlin - and not frankly walk into a skyscraper or a BMW dealership. I call bullshit.

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    Makes me wonder if he might just be a really smart runaway. Ran away for whatever reason, decided he didn't like it on his own, but doesn't want to go home, either.
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