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    Thumbs up Zachary C. Schams "might be mentally unstable" kills man with sword

    SUN PRAIRIE, Wis. - A sword-wielding man tailed a neighbor into a parking lot, repeatedly stabbed him and left him to die, according to charges filed Friday.

    Police said there was no indication the men knew each other and a motive is uncertain, although the suspect's lawyer said his client might be mentally unstable.

    Zachary C. Schams, 24, was charged Friday with first-degree intentional homicide with the use of a dangerous weapon.

    Schams bought a sword last week with the intent of killing 31-year-old Anthony Edlbeck, whom Schams referred to as "Steve," according to the criminal complaint.

    Edlbeck's body was found Wednesday morning in the parking lot of his apartment building. The Dane County coroner said Thursday that Edlbeck died of a number of "penetrating sharp force injuries."

    Edlbeck was walking to his car Wednesday morning when Schams walked up beside him, pulled out the sword from underneath his black leather trench coat and stabbed Edlbeck several times, the complaint said.

    Schams cut himself in the process so he called 911, saying he'd cut himself making breakfast and needed help, the complaint said.

    When an ambulance arrived, a neighbor alerted the responders to Edlbeck's dead body in the parking lot.

    Detectives questioned Schams, who said the drops of blood in the parking lot were his and that he "did it," the complaint said.

    His public defender said Schams needed to undergo a psychiatric evaluation.

    "I think there's reason to doubt his competency," attorney Dennis Burke said. "The question is whether he's going to remain here or go out to Mendota (Mental Health Institute)."

    Assistant District Attorney Corey Stephan agreed that Schams should undergo evaluation.

    A judge complied, ordering that Schams be given a psychiatric evaluation before his next court hearing, scheduled for April 17.

    The victim's father, Dale Edlbeck of Marinette, issued a statement after the attack saying his son's death had left the family in shock.
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    Zachary Schams mugshot

    Schams bought a sword last week with the intent of killing 31-year-old Anthony Edlbeck, whom Schams referred to as "Steve," according to the criminal complaint.
    I wonder if that poor guy knew that crazy was gunning (swording) for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unamused Cat View Post

    Zachary Schams mugshot



    I wonder if that poor guy knew that crazy was gunning (swording) for him.
    Apparently they didn't even know each other which is even scarier.

    Police say there's no indication the two men knew each other. The motive is unknown.
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    might be mentally unstable
    Uhhh..no shit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by So Jaded View Post
    Uhhh..no shit?
    LOL. . .

    Crazy looking. Check.

    Killed stranger with sword. Check.

    Accessorized with black leather trench coat. Check.

    Yeah he's definitely batshit crazy.
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    Case of mistaken identity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abroad View Post
    Case of mistaken identity?
    That was my first thought. I can't think of any other explanation other than the guy is batshit crazy. The fact that he called his victim "Steve" even though his name is Anthony certainly makes a good case for mistaken identity.
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    Maybe he was trying to free "Steve" from the Matrix.

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    Psycho much? What a senseless, random murder. Rest in peace Anthony Edlbeck.

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    Maybe it's just me, but he sort of reminds me of a younger Tate Donovan. Except loads crazier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wicked Doll View Post
    LOL. . .

    Crazy looking. Check.

    Killed stranger with sword. Check.

    Accessorized with black leather trench coat. Check.

    Yeah he's definitely batshit crazy.
    Thanks WD, now I'm going to develop a tick when I see the "Goth Kids" at the mall. Like I needed another phobia!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticia View Post
    Thanks WD, now I'm going to develop a tick when I see the "Goth Kids" at the mall. Like I needed another phobia!
    I feel your pain. Sorry, Morticia. I know. I am already afraid of lobsters and clowns and then this guy comes along. Us phobics just can't win.
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    Anthony Edlbeck is the one on the right. R.I.P. Anthony

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    The Sun Prairie man accused of killing his neighbor had concocted an elaborate plan that included buying the sword he has confessed to using in the attack, preparing a getaway and wearing clothing he could easily clean or throw out, court documents show.

    Zachary C. Schams, 24, also had a notebook containing the handwritten last name of the victim along with the words “dead soon,” and a Tarot card representing death in the pocket of a black trench coat with red stains that police found in Schams’ apartment. Police also found three Samurai-type swords, six throwing knives and other red-stained clothing, towels, carpet and a knife in Schams’ apartment.

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    Schams, who appeared in court wearing a suicide-prevention vest, told Sun Prairie police that he planned to kill Edlbeck with a sword as Edlbeck left for work Wednesday morning and described to police how he carried out the attack.

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    According to the search warrant, Marshall Haferman, who lives in an apartment adjacent to Schams’, told a Dane County Sheriff’s detective that Schams said he believed a man in the neighboring building was “stealing his energy.

    Haferman said Schams had threatened to kill this neighbor if he could “get away with it,” the warrant said.

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    Schams told police that he started planning to kill Edlbeck on March 23.

    That plan involved wearing clothing that could be easily cleaned or disposed of, and setting up his mattress in front of his bedroom window so he could re-enter his apartment through the window after the attack.

    According to the complaint, Schams dressed in black clothing, including a black leather trench coat, black gloves and a black stocking cap to conceal his identity. He poured bleach over his hands and gloves, and cleaned the fingertips of his gloves with alcohol before leaving his apartment. In his coat pocket, he carried a towel with bleach on it to get rid of any evidence, particularly DNA, he might leave at the scene.

    Shams told police he intercepted Edlbeck as he was getting into his car, pulled the concealed sword out from his trench coat and stabbed Edlbeck in the arm, then continued to stab him as Edlbeck tried to fight him off.

    After a final stab to his chest, as Edlbeck lay on the pavement, Schams told police he stopped the attack because he believed Edlbeck was fatally injured.

    Schams said he then ran back to his apartment, used the towel with bleach to clean the sword, then oiled the blade and hid the sword under his mattress, where it was later found, documents state.

    He then changed his clothes, attempted to wash his coat in the bathtub and hid the gloves and cap in a plastic bag, also found in his apartment, according to the documents. Schams told police he called his employer and said he would not be coming to work because he had been involved in an accident, and then called 911, the complaint states.
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    Insanity defense is not going to fly on this one. He obviously knows right from wrong. And doesn't seem unable to assist in his own defense... what with all those planning skills and all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Valkyrie View Post

    Insanity defense is not going to fly on this one. He obviously knows right from wrong. And doesn't seem unable to assist in his own defense... what with all those planning skills and all...
    Wow. Just wow. Thought Edlbeck was "stealing his energy". Any word on how much tinfoil they found lining this wackjob's apartment?

    I agree that the insanity defense isn't going to fly though. I hope they put this guy behind bars for a long, long time.
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    He thought the guy was a psychic vampire, so he killed him. His defense attorney should have no problem with the "my client is crazy" defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPrincess View Post
    He thought the guy was a psychic vampire, so he killed him. His defense attorney should have no problem with the "my client is crazy" defense.
    I don't know about that. DV is right, he clearly knows right from wrong since he went through so much trouble to cover his tracks. Tough call. I'm going to place bets on the insanity defense not working though. The guy is batshit crazy to some extent, there is no doubt in my mind about that. I don't think he is crazy enough to be considered insane by a judge. Who knows.
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    Zachary Schams, 24, made his initial appearance in Dane County Circuit Court Friday. He has been charged with first-degree intentional homicide with the use of a dangerous weapon.
    "I think there's reason to doubt his competency. The question is whether he's going to remain here or go out to Mendota," said Dennis Burke, Schams' defense attorney, at Friday's hearing.

    "I just ask conditions of bail include no contact with victim's family, no weapons, no alcohol, drugs or paraphernalia, (and to) comply with any psychological or psychiatric treatment recommended," said Assistant District Attorney Corey Stephan.

    The criminal complaint also alleges that Schams carefully planned out the slaying by pouring bleach on himself, around the scene and in his apartment.

    Bail was set at $500,000 Friday. As requested by both the state and Schams' attorney, Schams will be taken to the Mendota Mental Health Institute for a psychiatric evaluation before appearing in court again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wicked Doll View Post
    I don't know about that. DV is right, he clearly knows right from wrong since he went through so much trouble to cover his tracks. Tough call. I'm going to place bets on the insanity defense not working though. The guy is batshit crazy to some extent, there is no doubt in my mind about that. I don't think he is crazy enough to be considered insane by a judge. Who knows.
    Oh, it almost never works. It's still something for the defense to use though. Sometimes people are so obviously guilty and sane, that I look at the defense attorney and think 'what are you going to say? What's the strategy? You're screwed.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPrincess View Post
    Oh, it almost never works. It's still something for the defense to use though. Sometimes people are so obviously guilty and sane, that I look at the defense attorney and think 'what are you going to say? What's the strategy? You're screwed.'
    The good news for the defense team is that this guy just exudes crazy. He's mega-creepy looking. If I saw him coming at me with a sword I would probably piss myself.
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    I think there's reason to doubt his competency." said Dennis Burke, Schams' defense attorney, at Friday's hearing.
    Reason to doubt his competency? Uh, ya think?

    Just another competent attorney at work. I Wonder what his bill rate is.
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    Found competent to stand trial

    So, he is competent to stand trial, but is mentally ill and will remain in a mental health facility until trial. Confusing.

    Zachary Schams, who allegedly obsessed about a neighbor in Sun Prairie and then killed him with a sword, is competent to stand trial on a murder charge, a mental health examination found.

    But even though a judge found in a separate proceeding this week that Schams, 24, suffers from a mental illness, he’ll have to await his trial in the Dane County Jail instead of a mental hospital.

    On Friday, he waived his right to a preliminary hearing and pleaded not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect. Bail was set at $500,000.

    Burke said that after a judge ruled Thursday that Schams is mentally ill — an issue that differs from competency — he and prosecutors agreed that Schams should stay at a locked mental health facility.
    Full story here:

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    I live in Sun Prairie

    I saw this crime scene on my way to work, the parking lot faces the beltway here in town, and it's right next to my exit on the way to work, I had no idea what it was, but a few weeks later I made the connection when a friend of mine told me about this guy and what happened, I looked up the news story about it, and it was the same location and day I had seen the parking lot all taped off
    A co-worker said he actually met him at a local tavern on main street a few months before he killed that guy, he said he introduced himself as the reincarnation of a pharaoh, and he could tell that he was not the type of crazy to poke fun at, or even smile at when he says crazy stuff, like "i'm a pharaoh"
    I think his mental condition explains why he killed a stranger that was "stealing his energy", but it doesn't excuse the fact that it was intentional and premeditated murder. It's hard to say whether he should sit in prison, or mendota(the loony bin in madison), because he clearly needs help, but he also knew what he was doing

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    If I saw him coming at me with a sword I would probably piss myself.
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    Zachary Schams, 25


    Zachary Schams' aunt, Paula Darrow, left, and his mother, Lisa Calello




    Zachary Schams, who had claimed to be the reincarnation of an ancient Egyptian priest, pleaded guilty Tuesday to killing a neighbor with a sword and was sent to a state mental hospital to serve a lifetime commitment.

    Schams, 25, was convinced that his neighbor in Sun Prairie, Anthony Edlbeck, 31, was stealing his psychic energy because he was jealous of Schams’ musical talents, according to a report by two doctors. He had even contacted a psychic about Edlbeck.

    The decision to kill Edlbeck, according to the report, came after Schams couldn’t afford to see the psychic again and decided that killing Edlbeck would be the best way to protect himself.

    Schams pleaded guilty Tuesday to first-degree intentional homicide. Reserve Judge Robert DeChambeau then found Schams not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect and ordered him committed to a state mental hospital for the rest of his life.

    Schams, a Mauston native, can petition for conditional release after six months. Under state law, the court must grant his petition unless it finds by "clear and convincing evidence" that he still poses a significant risk of bodily harm to himself or others.

    After the court hearing, Edlbeck’s mother, Bonita Edlbeck, had a tearful conversation with Schams’ mother, Lisa Calello, and his aunt, Paula Darrow. They hugged one another before parting.

    On April 1, according to a criminal complaint, Schams attacked Edlbeck with a sword he bought just days before as Edlbeck was getting into his car to leave for work. Schams went home and called an ambulance for himself, for a cut he suffered on his hand during the attack.

    There’s no evidence that Edlbeck knew Schams or had ever spoken to him. His family, from Marinette, said Edlbeck had no inkling that any attack was imminent, only that he begged for his life after it began.

    "Our son Tony was a friendly, peaceful man who did absolutely nothing to provoke this brutal attack," his father, Dale Edlbeck, said in court Tuesday.

    Schams declined to speak when given a chance by DeChambeau.

    According to the report by Dr. Kenneth Robbins and Dr. Michael Spierer, Schams described himself as a "King Tut priest" named Okhoman the Third.

    The sword he bought, he said, was an "Egyptian sword named Eraizah." He also said that a spirit named Tabitha "told me I need to do something about this guy," referring to Edlbeck.

    Schams also claimed to be clairvoyant and said he and Edlbeck communicated with their minds.

    As recently as May 22, even after taking anti-psychotic medication, Schams said he felt no remorse about killing Edlbeck.

    "This was personal between us and I did the only thing I could do," Schams said.

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    can someone post a pic of Liberty 'diaper guy' next to this dudes pic...i swear its like now..and twenty years later....they could be father and son..

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    As recently as May 22, even after taking anti-psychotic medication, Schams said he felt no remorse about killing Edlbeck.

    "This was personal between us and I did the only thing I could do," Schams said.
    uhmmm...maybe it's 'cause he's not crazy...i know many ijits that love role-playing games, have read a book on massage, and have watched a kung-foo movie that are all 'experts' now...they don't have to get training in these areas because 'they know more then the teachers' they also think they can 'energize crystals with their mind' and use them to heal. Ok..so i don't know many only one...(hubs d&d buddy) but the fact is him and this guy would get along great! yep, they are both ass-hats! (and yes, i do hate this guy..he's 29 now and needs to grow the fuck up!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mommacrazy30 View Post
    can someone post a pic of Liberty 'diaper guy' next to this dudes pic...i swear its like now..and twenty years later....they could be father and son..
    please....i would get a major kick out of it....

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