Sandra Cantu, 8-years-old, WAS missing

[tricia381]

1. When she was at the community pool with her older siblings when the kiss happened.

Oh yeah, kids watching kids...perfect.

2. At 3, she was at one friends home, then at 4 she went home, said she was going to another friends home. Then when the mother didn't see her home by 7 or 8, she reported her missing.

yeah only worry when your kid doesnt return after hours of being gone, all alone.

3. You crucified her by stating that the mother was at fault for her daughter going missing. HELLO!!!! It's the pervs fault for taking her. DUH!!!

God forbid anyone think differently than you, huh? LOL I crucified her by stating it was her fault, whatever. Then I crucified her. And what the fuck, what happened to me being wrong for assuming she was abducted? But now you know a perv took her?

4. This is a gated mobile home community with only one road leading out. Which means that more than likely a person who lives in there knows where she is at which is why they have it narrowed down to 2 men living in the same community.

Wow classy, a trailer park with a gate.

Paranoia is all around. Her child is missing. They even think that she has run away. What makes you think that this child was abducted when there are no clues pointing toward this? yeah, great research work there. @_@

Who fucking said I researched this? I said I saw in on Nancy Grace...some research. Yes, her child is missing, because she failed to keep tabs on her kid. They think she ran away...what happened to one exit and more than likely more than one person knows where she is? I thought there were no clues? You are full of contradictions but whatever, keep defending this "mother." Im not losing any sleep over it. Its sad people can basically neglect their kids then play the victim when something happens to one of them. Like I said, whatever. I know my kids wont be "runaways" at age 8, nor be abducted because I failed to care about their whereabouts. And thats all I have to say about that. Im done trying to get my point across. You obviously dont get that parents should be responsible for their children.

[Rockin Ma]

damn it. every time I spend 100 years formulating my post, someone posts at the same time and it gets lost on the previous page...


I QUIT!

[Unamused Cat]

They are searching the dump for Sandra. I'd kinda like to know why it took 48 hours before word started getting out that this child was missing. That's how long she was missing before I found the story. Why no Amber Alert? An eight year old is missing. I don't care if she was snatched by ninjas in the middle of Sunday school, or willingly got into a vehicle around the corner out of sight. A child is missing. That is never good.

[penelopejo]

Who fucking said I researched this? I said I saw in on Nancy Grace...some research. Yes, her child is missing, because she failed to keep tabs on her kid. They think she ran away...what happened to one exit and more than likely more than one person knows where she is? I thought there were no clues? You are full of contradictions but whatever, keep defending this "mother." Im not losing any sleep over it. Its sad people can basically neglect their kids then play the victim when something happens to one of them. Like I said, whatever. I know my kids wont be "runaways" at age 8, nor be abducted because I failed to care about their whereabouts. And thats all I have to say about that. Im done trying to get my point across. You obviously dont get that parents should be responsible for their children.

blah, blah, blah. I've heard this argument before and don't really feel like going down this road with you. You are taking away from the fact that this child is missing. So, do as you please. Still not making any contribution to this thread whatsoever.

[tricia381]

I understand one of the poster's feelings about the mom letting her 8 year old take off to a friend's house down the road. Personally, I wouldn't allow it. My mama instict says no way and I don't know why, I was not raised that way. At 8, (and younger) I would take off from morning to night often out in the woods, near the beach and train tracks, out of ear shot... and no one minded. When I was three, I thought the smell of fresh cut grass meant the carnival was in town and I took off to find it. I was just getting to the area(which it wasn't there) when the cops pulled up and brought me and my best friend home. We traveled pretty far before anyone noticed we were gone. It is a different time, I agree completely. However I think that some of us that grew up in a safer time are not aware how unsafe it is to just let your child run a couple houses down. I've seen posts here where people have commented just from reading these stories it's opened their eyes to dangers they never thought about.

I did the same thing as a kid. My mom didnt care if I was out till after dark or who I was with all she cared about was if I did the dishes or took the trash out.
I wasnt aware of all the child abductions or child killings until I was in my late teens and early 20's, now its like an obsession, a morbid curiosity.
Im not saying Im a perfect mother but I try my very best to protect my children, to know where they are at all times, to teach them that at any moment someone can take them and do bad things to them and we may never see each other again. Im not paraniod about it, just cautious, because I love my kids and I want them to grow up and live life. I dont want them to be someones plaything for a few hours then dumped like trash.

[Athena]

Damnit. Penelope, didn't I say I wasn't going to do this? I'm doing it. Goddamnit.

If this mother cared about her daughters well being she wouldnt allow her to roam around, at anytime of the day or night, alone.

WHAT THE FUCK.

You know what I like about internet forums? Proofreading. If you blurt out something irresponsible, you can change it before hitting "submit reply". You're saying that, if a child is allowed out in their own neighborhood alone at 8 years old, in broad daylight, their parents don't care about their safety???

Do you even KNOW how many people you've just insulted?

I did the same thing as a kid. My mom didnt care if I was out till after dark or who I was with all she cared about was if I did the dishes or took the trash out.
I wasnt aware of all the child abductions or child killings until I was in my late teens and early 20's, now its like an obsession, a morbid curiosity.

Im not paraniod about it, just cautious, because I love my kids and I want them to grow up and live life. I dont want them to be someones plaything for a few hours then dumped like trash.

So... you were given freedom as a child and lived to tell about it, but you won't allow the same freedom to your children because, by your own admission, you've got a media-fueled "obsession"? And you don't think that's paranoia??? LMAO.

Violent crime is at its lowest rate in 40 years.

Children are unlikely to be victimized, especially in comparison to teenagers.

Gosh, I guess your parents didn't care about your well-being, either.

If you want to build your childrens' lives around the less than 1% that get victimized, that's your business. But I'll be goddamned if I stand by while you judgmentally suggest that this woman didn't care about her child's safety, like you and your "obsession" are the authority on the matter.

[seductress]

I cannot honestly say I know with all certainty that I know where my kids are 24/7, I wish I could. But you send them to school, you let them go to a friends house and you just think they are where they said they were and that they are safe.

I don't know this community, but I think this child does have parents that love her and does have parents that are looking for her. If there is foul play involved I don't think it's on the part of the parents.

I am still praying that she comes home safely.

[eli1741]

I really hope and pray this little girl is alive and found soon. I saw this mom on t.v. and she is obviously devastated.

I have 3 children, (22 years old, 17 years old, 11 years old) and they have all gone to friends houses in the neighborhood as well as their friends come to my house. I always taught my kids about strangers and made sure I knew where they where going, but I also believe that kids need to be able to be kids and have fun. I am a very good mom, have been a single mom forever and a day, and I don't have any doubts about my parenting. I have made my mistakes, (boy have I), but I managed to raise some wonderful kids.

I know some wont agree with me, but there is a danger of being overprotective, I have seen it backfire, I have coached high school girls basketball for years and see what happens when these kids that were sheltered from the world rebel and it is not pretty. I believe there is a middle ground, if you keep the lines of communication open with your kids, you can let them be kids and hopefully keep them safe at the same time.

That being said, bad things can happen to anyone and anytime, no matter how protective a parent. We see such horrible crimes against kids committed by their parents that I think it is easy to jump to the conclusion that mom and dad must of done something wrong, but it's not always the case, and I for one will not judge this poor mother. Can you imagine the pain she is going through right now, and I can only imagine how many times she has tortured herself with "what if".

Now I don't want anyone to think that I think nothing bad will happen to my kids, believe me I worry, I have sleepless nights, and pace the floor. I worry more now about my oldest then I ever had to when he was 8. I have two beautiful nephews who were raised with my oldest the same way. We have lost both of them, in a matter of two years. One at the age of 21 in a car accident, and the other two days after thanksgiving, at the age of 20 in Irag. Bad things do happen to good people, and guess what, we also torture ourselves with "what if".

I'm sorry for this rant, I don't post a whole lot, but after reading some of the other posts I felt really sad how fast we lose compassion of others and judge.

[tricia381]

wow...must be slow here huh? no one coming to defend child molesters or killers huh?

ya'll really need to get a life, one off of the computer and stop taking things so fucking literal. really. I never said if you allow your kids to run around without supervision you dont care or love them and I never said this "mother" was suspected of foul play.

what I said was that this child, at 8 years old, was allowed to run around at all hours of the day without no one knowing where she is. if the "mom" had known and kept tabs on her kids then this wouldnt have happened. she didnt care to know where her kid was, I didnt say she didnt care about her or loved her. there is a difference. and so fucking what? my opinion. so "crucify" me for it lol. there were 8 fucking people living in one trailer...no one could be bothered by watching this kid play? guess not.

and thanks for taking my words and twisting them, never said I was obsessed with the "media's" interpertation of child killers or abductions. I fucking look for amber alerts in my area, I look for kidnapped children, I read about it, and so do you...are you obsessed with the media, too? looks like it, you are here way more than I am. I am actually more "obsessed" with keeping my kids safe. maybe you all should try it and get off the internet.

another thing, I wish my parent was more involved in my life...she was less than caring or considerate. she only cared about appearences...just like another mom in the news crying that her kid is missing.

really, Im fucking done with this thread...you all can obsess about it all day. I have a real life to live and kids to take care of. but have a field day, cause your life consists nothing more than dreamin' demon and "crucifing" people.

[LocalCelebrity]

I want to know why this mom thought it was ok to let her 8 year old daughter wander around the trailer park by herself after dark? Especially since some creepy old man had already kissed her! What kind of mom allows that?
My oldest will be 8 in August and I still dont even let her out past the front door/porch area without me, and even then I have the door and windows open and listen for any odd sounds.
In my opinion this wouldnt have happened if the mom took better care and was more concerned about her daughters safety. I feel its her fault. Its a fucked up situation, but everyone should know better in this day and age.
It doesnt look good, but I am hoping for the best.

Lord Tricia, be careful what you say or you will be accused of being overprotective and ruining your child's future.

[penelopejo]

wow...must be slow here huh? no one coming to defend child molesters or killers huh?

ya'll really needblah, blah, blah

and thanks for taking my words and twisting them, never said I was obsessed with the "media's" interpertation of child killers or abductions. I fucking look for amber alerts in my area, I look for kidnapped children, I read about it, and so do you...are you obsessed with the media, too? looks like it, you are here way more than I am. I am actually more "obsessed" with keeping my kids safe. maybe you all should try it and get off the internet.

I wasnt aware of all the child abductions or child killings until I was in my late teens and early 20's, now its like an obsession, a morbid curiosity.
.

And I'm a contradiction. lol

[tricia381]

Lord Tricia, be careful what you say or you will be accused of being overprotective and ruining your child's future.

thanks LC.

lmao looks like it. I'd rather care too much than not enough, you know, part of that 1% who lose their children thru carelessness.

[tricia381]

wow, good job, you can quote a post.

[kratesis]

You said:
ya'll really need to get a life, one off of the computer and stop taking things so fucking literal. really. I never said if you allow your kids to run around without supervision you dont care or love them and I never said this "mother" was suspected of foul play.

No you didn't say foul play, but that she just didn't care for her child in these posts:

Its sad people can basically neglect their kids then play the victim when something happens to one of them. Like I said, whatever. I know my kids wont be "runaways" at age 8, nor be abducted because I failed to care about their whereabouts.


You said: what I said was that this child, at 8 years old, was allowed to run around at all hours of the day without no one knowing where she is. if the "mom" had known and kept tabs on her kids then this wouldnt have happened. she didnt care to know where her kid was, I didnt say she didnt care about her or loved her. there is a difference. and so fucking what? my opinion. so "crucify" me for it lol. there were 8 fucking people living in one trailer...no one could be bothered by watching this kid play? guess not.

You just contradicted yourself there, and then you also said this: In my opinion this wouldnt have happened if the mom took better care and was more concerned about her daughters safety. I feel its her fault.

You said: and thanks for taking my words and twisting them, never said I was obsessed with the "media's" interpertation of child killers or abductions. I fucking look for amber alerts in my area, I look for kidnapped children, I read about it, and so do you...are you obsessed with the media, too? looks like it, you are here way more than I am. I am actually more "obsessed" with keeping my kids safe. maybe you all should try it and get off the internet.


but yet you said this:

I wasnt aware of all the child abductions or child killings until I was in my late teens and early 20's, now its like an obsession, a morbid curiosity.

Just get your big girl panties on, stop and think about what you're saying before you say it and then we'll be good!

[kratesis]

I think people have forgotten already that a child is missing, the focus should be put on getting the child back, and then blame can be placed on 'who's fault' it was.

Everyone has different standards for raising their children. Everyone lives in different circumstances, but at this point, judging the family is not cool. Like other posters have stated, you could be the most caring, wonderful, attentive parent in the world, and something bad could still happen to your child. Just because these parents don't fit your expectations of a good parent, doesn't mean that this was their fault.

Now com'n folks, its almost friday! Lets hope this child is found safe and sound!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tricia381]

whos crying over this? not me. I've got my panties on...but thanks for being concerned?

I said "it's like an obsession" but I guess that means in internet terms that I dont have anything else to fill out my day.

and keep reading and quoting what I posted...cause I said she didnt care to know where her daughter was. she didnt care enough to know where her daughter was. not "she didnt love or care about her daughter." keep reaching tho cause Im done with this. so go ahead and talk all the shit or back talk you want. you guys can take it, twist it, roll it around...Im done trying to get my point across that if this mother was only more involved in her kids life, and not allowing her other "children" take care of her younger kids, then this wouldnt have happened.

fin.

[kratesis]

well I guess we'll just agree to disagree!

[MISSanthropic]

It makes me giggle that most times someone's opinion is disagreed with here or they are called out, they resort to telling the members here they have no life and to get off of the computer. It's like a last resort or something. Just sayin'.

Oh shit, maybe she's right. I'm so obsessed with this site I can't find my kid right now!

...phew, I don't have one.

[penelopejo]

The father of an 8-year-old California girl missing since last Friday has agreed to undergo a polygraph test.

Daniel Cantu said he will do anything to help find his daughter, Sandra, who disappeared from a park near her home in Tracy last week.

“She’s only eight years old. She’s small, she’s alone, she’s scared,“ Cantu said. “And I love her very much. And if she can get to a phone, please run, dial 911. Do what you need to do, honey.“

Cantu says he is frustrated and upset because police in Mexico raided his home there and threatened his new wife.

http://www.counton2.com/cbd/news/nat...lygraph/23045/

To clear his name, maybe?

[Athena]

http://www.counton2.com/cbd/news/nat...lygraph/23045/

To clear his name, maybe?

Yeah. Even though he couldn't have personally kidnapped the child, they'll probably ask him if he arranged a kidnapping for custody reasons. But the fact that he agreed so quickly is good - it usually means the person has nothing to hide.

[penelopejo]

http://www.kcbs.com/No-Trace-of-Miss...ar-Old/4118027

Sandra was last seen Friday afternoon at the mobile home park where her family lives.

KCBS spoke to April Callender, whose niece Niki is Sandra's best friend.

"She told Niki she was upset with her family, while they were talking at recess at school on Friday, and she said she was going to run away," said Callender.

Callender's niece has been interviewed by authorities. Sandra has threatened to run away before; this latest threat perhaps prompted by fear of telling her mother and grandparents about misbehaving at school and being sent home with a paper for them to sign. Despite Sandra's words, Callender doesn't believe Sandra left of her own accord.

Sandra's mother, meanwhile, has been appealing for her daughter's return. "Please, whoever has her, please just let her go," said Maria Chavez. "She needs to come home to her mom who loves her very much and misses her."

I hope she left on her own. Better than thinking some one took her and killed her.

[LocalCelebrity]

I am so sick to death of these beautiful children going missing. And I hope this one doesn't turn out like Caylee and Haleigh being drug out forevor. It's too damn depressing. And another thing that sucks, it seems like the world took to Caylee (me included) but now with Haleigh, it's already out of the mainstream. I hope her and Sandra come home safe. Geez....

[penelopejo]

http://cbs5.com/local/missing.cantu.....2.974374.html

Tracy police said Thursday that they would scour a local river, dump site and other locations in the search for missing 8-year-old Sandra Cantu.

A Tracy police spokesman said a crew would sweep the Old River in the Delta Thursday in the search for Sandra who has been missing since last Friday.

Volunteers continued to search at the Tracy city dump about seven miles from the mobile home park where Sandra lives with her family. Lt. Jeremy Watney said crews would remain at the site until at least Saturday.

Crews using bulldozers and other equipment were expected to be sifting through trash at the site all week.

Investigators said they have now received 569 tips so far, but none of the tips indicated the girl may not be alive.

Lt. Watney also said Sandra Cantu's father is scheduled to be interviewed again by police but would not say if he would be taking a lie detector test.

Sandra was last seen Friday afternoon at the mobile home park where her family lives.

why have they waited so long to search the river?

[penelopejo]

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_12055833

Deputies today are searching the San Joaquin Delta for 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, who has been missing from her Tracy home for almost a week.

Authorities announced at a press conference this morning that the search of Old River via boats is precautionary and that the number of leads in the case has grown to 560.

[TheMorningStar]

Investigators served six warrants in search for Sandra Cantu

Vigil for missing Tracy girl Sandra Cantu

[penelopejo]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJZng8vnXI"]YouTube - Video Key As Search For Girl Continues[/ame]

[penelopejo]

The father of missing 8-year-old Sandra Cantu has a criminal past, including methamphetamine problems and time served in Pelican Bay State Prison.

The Tracy girl disappeared March 27; she was last seen inside Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park, just off West Clover Road.

A search of court records in San Joaquin County Superior Court showed five criminal cases involving Daniel Cantu dating between 2001 and 2005.

Charges included possession of a controlled substance; resisting, obstructing, delaying a peace officer; possession of a controlled substance for sale; and possession of a hypodermic needle or syringe.

Records also show the court assigned Cantu to drug court at one point, but he was dropped from the program.

According to the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, Cantu was sentenced to two years in prison for possession of a controlled substance for sale. He served 13 months between September 2005 and October 2006.

KCRA 3 tried to talk to Cantu on Wednesday about his criminal history, but he became upset and declined to answer questions.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19081653/detail.html

[mousygirl]

wow, if i only knew how to groan at posts.

jesus, trixie, where's your compassion? i'm sorry, but *eight* years old is plenty old enough to be playing outside in the neighborhood alone and going to friends' houses. overprotective much? and no matter how close you think you watch your kids, they can still get into stuff without you knowing, and it only takes a second for something horrible to happen.

whoever put the "facepalm" up, you made my day. and trixie, maybe you wouldn't sound so ignorant if you didn't use the f-bomb as *punctuation*. a few well-placed obscenities are so much more effective.

[Wyks]

Heard on NG or JVM that the reason for the camera outside was cuz they had trouble with someone messing with their car, or something like that, so they put a cam out there.

My first reaction (and I hope I'm wrong) is that something is up with her father. The video of him that they show on NG and/or JVM, pleading for his daughter to come home, sure "sounds" to me more like a father going thru the motions of making that plea, without much feeling. Sounded like he was saying 'blah blah blah', and it really caught my attention. Again, hope I'm wrong. Hope he had nothing to do with his daughter having gone missing. I just won't be surprised if it turns out that he did.

[LocalCelebrity]

Ugh, I keep wating for a happy ending to this one and to Haleigh's case. I had a long talk with my 6 year old daughter again yesterday and told her that if anyone ever tries to grab her to kick, scream, punch, whatever it takes. Fuck. Stop taking our children!!!