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    Cool Gays + Politics = Sex Scandal



    Mayor Sam Adams



    The suspiciously porno-like named Beau Breedlove

    Portland, Oregon - Last May, voters in Portland, OR, bravely championed liberalism with that "Yes We Can" attitude and voted in overwhelming favor for Sam Adams, the man who would come to be Portland's first openly-gay mayor. In fact, Adams is the first openly-gay mayor of any major metropolitan American city. They did so among allegations that Adams had been involved in a sexual relationship with a young intern, a relationship that allegedly began when said intern was just 17. Adams vehemently denied these claims and voters in the city, tired of negative campaigning, called the allegations "smear" and "sleazy". Now, we can call them one more thing: True.

    On January 11th, the accusations gained new momentum. The young man in question, now 21 year old Beau Breedlove (poor kid), texted reporter Nigel Jaquiss of the Willamette Week. He said he was scared. "If the story goes to print without me saying anything, I'm worried I will look like a scumbag. If I do say anything, then Sam's fate is in my hands." When the reporter again approached Adams, Adams again denied the charge. He was so, so close to wearing that "Mayor" title. I bet he even practiced it in cursive, "Mayor Adams... Mayor Sam Adams," all over a piece of notebook paper.

    Alas, the Monday before inauguration, Adams had a change of heart. Unable to bear it any longer, he called all of his closest colleagues to give them the real story - that he did develop a relationship with young Mr. Breedlove, but that he was very careful not to take it to the next level until Beau was 18, Oregon's legal age of consent. Mr. Breedlove contends that this version is mostly true, except for the make-out session in a city hall bathroom when he was still 17. No tell-tale heart in this story... Just a tell-tale boy-toy.

    Homosexuals are generally pretty hip, so it's no suprise that Mayor Sam Adams is taking cues from that trend-setting Rod Blagojevic and holding fast to his position, despite growing calls for his resignation. At least the guy's not a total failure - when asked if officials are held to an unrealistic moral standard, he responded "No. It's a very high standard, and it can be intrusive, but I knew what I was getting into when I decided to run for public office, so I'm not complaining about it now." Gosh, it's really great that you're not complaining, Sam, but how about apologizing for the damage you've done by being a big ol' gay stereotype?

    There are no charges pending, as the case is currently under investigation by Oregon's Attorney General's office.

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    Should there be charges in this case? Do you think there's any coming back from this for Mayor Adams? Either way, do you expect this to impact other prospective homosexual candidates?
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    Okay, but who cares? So what if he made out with a 17 year old?? Yes, shame on him for lying about it, but at least he came somewhat clean. I think that if he was having feelings for this 17 year old, then it shouldn't really matter that he was under age...

    On to the questions...I think that Mayor Adams will definitely bounce back...this isn't really as big of a scandal as it could be...it could be so much worse than that...and for the second question...I think that Mayor Adams will be a role model for other homosexual men or women to run for a political office...I think that Mayor Adams shows many of the Americans that it doesn't matter if you are gay, straight, bi whatever...as long as you are a good candidate and you can be a good leader, then you can run for anything...
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    How old is Mayor Adams? It affects how I feel about the situation.
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    While I generally agree with you, do you feel as though there's a double standard, here? Is this sort of behavior simply "expected" from homosexual males? What if it was a 40-something year old politician (or teacher, or pastor, of whathaveyou) involved in a romantic relationship with a 17 year old female, just waiting for that birthday to get around to penetration? Even Adams himself, when he was still denying the claims, said that the allegations played upon stereotypes of the predatory homosexual.
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    He was roughly 42 at the time of the affair, Nell.
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    Aye. Mayor Adams is a pervert, and should step down. 42? and the boy was 17. Ok, never mind that he is clearly in the wrong here, as he had a position of authority over the boy, he was predatory in nature. I cannott believe that he didn't realize the power and authority he had over this teenager.

    And then to get all huffy about it and swear he would nevah!!! I expect that from my polititians, but to then compound the bad by saying he was being unfairly treated because he is gay? Lol.
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    That's just it, Nell. When is consent truly consent? Sure, supposedly, actual intercourse was saved until the kid turned 18, but for how long before that was he being groomed? Are we less critical in this situation because the relationship was a homosexual one?
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    You have a very good point Athena...in my opinion, I think that this would be made into a bigger ordeal if it were Mayor Adams and some 17 year old female. I think that it was wrong that Mayor Adams lied about having a relationship with this teen male, but when you think about it, think about how many politicians, teachers, pastors, etc. lie about these things on a daily basis. And then when discovered, it's a huge deal. I think that if Americans expect politicians (or whatever) to step down when these scandals appear and they are heterosexual, then Mayor Adams should step down as well...it is the fair thing to do...treated equally.

    I do think however, that if Mayor Adams hadn't lied about the entire situation, then it wouldn't matter and I would think that he could stay being Portland's Mayor.
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    Okay, but who cares? So what if he made out with a 17 year old?? Yes, shame on him for lying about it, but at least he came somewhat clean. I think that if he was having feelings for this 17 year old, then it shouldn't really matter that he was under age...
    Technically Kiki that is still Sexual Assault.....and Yes I do think that he should be "Foleyated" for it.

    He knew better. The age of consent is 18. Not 17. If it can be PROVEN that this incident happened not just a he said/he said....

    That being said.....Do I think he will be Foleyated?

    No I don't. Because Oregon is a VERY liberal state, and all this guy has to do is appear on Camera with just one little tiny tear in his eye and public sentiment will be "See he said he was sorry, isn't that enough? How can we prosecute? This man has lost everything.....it would just be mean to throw him in jail.....

    And Poof it all goes away.

    And if that doesn't work then he pulls out the Gay/Protected class card....and says the only reason I am being prosecuted is because of my sexuality.

    BTW Kiki...I am almost certain that bulge in his pants meant that he was feeling something for the boy.....

    So I'm not thinking that somebody asking Mr. Adams if he had a hard on at the time of the kiss, is sufficient proof of "feelings"

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    Consent between a man and boy of this age when the older man doesn't have any real authority over the younger maybe. It is still a huge age difference but that close to 18 who am I to say?

    I have a problem with this because of the nature of the relationship first. Then the fact that he lied about it. And honest to god I see no difference between a homosexual relationship and a straight one. He did wrong because of the power he had, less so the age.

    He really needs to stop making excuses. It makes him look worse.
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    You have a very good point Athena...in my opinion, I think that this would be made into a bigger ordeal if it were Mayor Adams and some 17 year old female. I think that it was wrong that Mayor Adams lied about having a relationship with this teen male, but when you think about it, think about how many politicians, teachers, pastors, etc. lie about these things on a daily basis. And then when discovered, it's a huge deal. I think that if Americans expect politicians (or whatever) to step down when these scandals appear and they are heterosexual, then Mayor Adams should step down as well...it is the fair thing to do...treated equally.

    I do think however, that if Mayor Adams hadn't lied about the entire situation, then it wouldn't matter and I would think that he could stay being Portland's Mayor.
    Kiki I now present to you Mayor Gary Becker of Racine WI. Lets see if you think any differently after reading this story:

    Racine - Authorities seeking felony charges against Mayor Gary Becker say the 51-year-old married father of two, who ran unopposed for re-election two years ago, used the Internet to try to arrange a sexual liaison with what he thought was a teen girl.
    Taken into custody at Brookfield Square mall Tuesday evening, Becker became one of the more than 475 people arrested by the state's 10-year-old Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force.
    By now, it is relatively widely known that investigators from the Division of Criminal Investigation pose as youths on the Internet, looking for adults who want to have sex with minors.
    But according to a source familiar with the case, a criminal investigation of Becker was begun before Christmas after he brought a personal computer to City Hall and asked city workers to fix a problem with it.
    Whatever the workers found was turned over to Racine police, who in turn passed it on to the state task force.
    "It's tragic news for both the mayor and his family, and for the people of the city of Racine," said John Lehman, a Racine state representative and Democrat who served with Becker on the Racine Common Council. "It saddens people all over town."
    Based on a statement from the state task force, Becker could face at least six charges, including child enticement, possession of child pornography, attempted second-degree sexual assault of a child and misconduct in public office.
    Becker was booked into the Kenosha County Jail on Tuesday evening and was released Wednesday after a relative posted his $165,000 bail.
    Becker's Racine lawyer, Patrick Cafferty, declined to comment other than to say he had not been given any investigation documents.
    This case has many of the same elements as the Portland case, except that it is a hetero mayor....

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    MJC, I understand that the consent law is 18 and not 17. I live in Oregon. I guess it's a whole other issue when it comes to the consent laws. But I guess I am also thinking that if this 17 year old was so close to being 18, then it shouldn't matter. But like I said, the consent law is a whole other issue.

    You have another point when it comes to pulling the sexuality card. I don't think that it is right for ANYONE to pull the minority card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nell View Post
    Consent between a man and boy of this age when the older man doesn't have any real authority over the younger maybe. It is still a huge age difference but that close to 18 who am I to say?

    I have a problem with this because of the nature of the relationship first. Then the fact that he lied about it. And honest to god I see no difference between a homosexual relationship and a straight one. He did wrong because of the power he had, less so the age.

    He really needs to stop making excuses. It makes him look worse.
    I'm with you. Its ALWAYS the lying about it that causes the most damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiKi View Post
    MJC, I understand that the consent law is 18 and not 17. I live in Oregon. I guess it's a whole other issue when it comes to the consent laws. But I guess I am also thinking that if this 17 year old was so close to being 18, then it shouldn't matter. But like I said, the consent law is a whole other issue.

    You have another point when it comes to pulling the sexuality card. I don't think that it is right for ANYONE to pull the minority card.
    Lets say the incident happens when he is say 10 days shy of 18.

    The Attorney General-or whatever his title is in Oregon- Decides not to persue charges.

    Does that or does that not then open an entire OTHER can of worms?

    That gives Pedos an open door to bring up this Sam Adams case and say look he wasn't charged, why should I be?

    I say you need to charge him just to avoid setting that precedent....

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    Okay and reading that story just reassured me of my thoughts. It is a hetero mayor and he was booked into jail and everyone calls it a tragic story. Okay...how old was "the girl" that he was talking to? Becuase I think it makes a huge difference when you are talking about an almost 18 year old and say a 12 year old. If Mayor Adams had a relationship with this boy and he was like 15, then I would be hands down, totally against it and say that 100% he needed to step down.

    BTW Kiki...I am almost certain that bulge in his pants meant that he was feeling something for the boy.....

    So I'm not thinking that somebody asking Mr. Adams if he had a hard on at the time of the kiss, is sufficient proof of "feelings"
    Okay and is this saying that he only had sexual feelings towards this boy? He said that he was developing a relationship with him before the age of 18...this doesn't mean that he had a "buldge in his pants" and that was his "feelings". He could have actually had true loving feelings for him...I don't think asking him if he had a hard on has anything to do with this...
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    Oregon needs to change its age of consent. It is dumb. And to answer your questions.

    No, you should not be charged if you sleep with someone 10 days before their 18th birthday. That is silly.

    If a pedo wanted to use that to argue it is ok to fuck someone under say 16, I will laugh. It won't work.

    And I don't think they can charge him with much since he won't admit intercourse. And I think it would be a huge waste of money and time if they did. His lying and excuse making is what should force him to step down, less so the age of consent and making out.
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    Lets say the incident happens when he is say 10 days shy of 18.

    The Attorney General-or whatever his title is in Oregon- Decides not to persue charges.

    Does that or does that not then open an entire OTHER can of worms?

    That gives Pedos an open door to bring up this Sam Adams case and say look he wasn't charged, why should I be?

    I say you need to charge him just to avoid setting that precedent....
    You do have a very good point. I guess that you are right when it comes to the charges...I think that it just doesn't really bother me because I don't agree with the consent laws. But when you put it this way, it does make sense to charge him...even if I do not agree with the charges that come with the law...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiKi View Post
    You do have a very good point. I guess that you are right when it comes to the charges...I think that it just doesn't really bother me because I don't agree with the consent laws. But when you put it this way, it does make sense to charge him...even if I do not agree with the charges that come with the law...
    No it doesn't! christ, can you imagine the man hours and useless bullshit trials that would come from trying people for making out with 17 year olds? I am so freaked out that that would even be something anyone thought was a good idea.
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    Oregon needs to change its age of consent. It is dumb. And to answer your questions.

    No, you should not be charged if you sleep with someone 10 days before their 18th birthday. That is silly.

    If a pedo wanted to use that to argue it is ok to fuck someone under say 16, I will laugh. It won't work.

    And I don't think they can charge him with much since he won't admit intercourse. And I think it would be a huge waste of money and time if they did. His lying and excuse making is what should force him to step down, less so the age of consent and making out.
    Thank you Nell. I was just thinking this and was going to post it, but you did for me!!
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    If pedos were to use it for the future then I would see the reason to charge. But honestly I think it is pointless...now thinking about it, I think that Mayor Adams should have to step down for lying about everything. But I don't think that he should be charged with anything because he was close to turning 18 and I think the consent law sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nell View Post
    No it doesn't! christ, can you imagine the man hours and useless bullshit trials that would come from trying people for making out with 17 year olds? I am so freaked out that that would even be something anyone thought was a good idea.
    :Hands Nell a vicodin AND a Xanax: I really don't see him ending up going to trial on something like this.....they charge him with a Felony it gets pleaded down to a misdemeanor he pays a fine.....no jail time....boom its all over.

    And both sides win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nell View Post
    Oregon needs to change its age of consent. It is dumb. And to answer your questions.

    No, you should not be charged if you sleep with someone 10 days before their 18th birthday. That is silly.

    If a pedo wanted to use that to argue it is ok to fuck someone under say 16, I will laugh. It won't work.

    And I don't think they can charge him with much since he won't admit intercourse. And I think it would be a huge waste of money and time if they did. His lying and excuse making is what should force him to step down, less so the age of consent and making out.
    You missed what I said earlier though.....the evidence would have to be stronger than he said/he said....If there were witnesses who were willing to step forward and testify they witnessed this than you charge him.

    But given the fact that this is a politicians word against a young mans word, the arguement that the boy was spurned very well could give jurors enough doubt to acquit him regardless of the Mayors admitting that the incident happened.

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    The headline says it all - good one, Athena

    The young stud looks PHT to me, lol (Pretty Hot & Tempting)

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    Kind of silly, since he is the only openly-gay mayor he represents a minority - to himself - and whatever he does will ultimately effect the larger minority's (homosexuals pursuing political careers) image.

    The mayor, he has nice eyes.

    Breedlove is a hilarious name - especially since he can't breed even in love because he's gay (I love gays, but the name is so ironic).

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