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    If having 14 children were a result of her depression, I sure hope she doesn't get postpartum depression. EEK!

    Something I haven't seen brought up...how could she justify risking her health like that when she already had 6 children to take care of? Purely selfish. If she had died her existing children would have paid the price on that, kind of like they are now that she's survived. I hope they enjoyed whatever passed for a childhood for them because I've got a feeling it's over now.

    She claims her childhood was dysfunctional and blames her mother for making her an only child. I think her mom is being manipulated like hell to go along with whatever whims Nadya decides upon. Oh well, paybacks can be a bitch, and she's got 14 paybacks to look forward to.

    The really sad thing is that I don't believe that Nadya should get endorsements or sponsorships to pay for this, but if she doesn't the children will be the ones who suffer. It's not their fault at all.

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    Exactly, Weaver! So much attention going on mom that folks forget there still are 14 kids involved in all this. They don't deserve to be short changed just because they have a cuckoo for a mom. What's the solution here?
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    Something I haven't seen brought up...how could she justify risking her health like that when she already had 6 children to take care of? Purely selfish.
    I never thought of this but i agree!!! I have 5 kids and wanted 6, but during my last C-Section the Dr. found a hole in my uterus that was very difficult to stitch closed. i almost bled out. She strongly, strongly recommended I get my tubes tied, telling me that if I got pregnant again I would at the least be in the hospital the whole time and most likely either I or the fetus would die. I got them tied 6 weeks later. Believe it or not I grieved that last baby I couldn't have, but it was the smart, responsible thing to do.
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    Exactly, Weaver! So much attention going on mom that folks forget there still are 14 kids involved in all this. They don't deserve to be short changed just because they have a cuckoo for a mom. What's the solution here?
    Maybe Angelina Jolie will offer a sponsorship for the babies and older children.


    I don't see any good solution. This woman has managed to put society up against the wall. If we (as a society) help the children we're supporting her selfishness. If we turn our backs on the situation we're allowing those children to go without and setting them up for failure. By failing to reward her poor decision the innocent children suffer. It's a no win situation for society and a win/win situation for her.

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    I would feel entirely different about this situation, had she won a huge lotto prior to getting pregnant.

    The uncertainty as to how she will care for these children is what irritates most people.

    The zealots for zero % population growth, have a thing or three to say to her and the Duggers. Just I'm not related to either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weavergroupie View Post
    Maybe Angelina Jolie will offer a sponsorship for the babies and older children.
    OT, but I was totally getting an Angelina Jolie vibe from her lips when she was talking. Maybe she wanted to be like Angelina, but couldn't stop once she started!
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    In a brief excerpt of the interview released Thursday, the 33-year-old single mother said she had a dysfunctional childhood and sought to erase that with the closeness children could bring. The full interview will air Monday.

    NBC News spokeswoman Megan Kopf said Suleman was not paid for the interview.

    Not even a photo of Suleman has emerged and public records shed little light on her. The 33-year-old single mother, who now has 14 children under the age of 8, has used different names over the years and has been married and divorced once.
    She had a dysfunctional childhood and wanted to erase the pain? What kind of Bullshit is this, Newflash WOMAN, Sites like DD would not be anywhere NEAR as popular if the people who end up on it, HAD NORMAL CHILDHOODS!!!!!

    And you have used different names over the years. I cannot think of 1 good reason, -except to change your name except after marriage and after the divorce-

    So what is it that you are hiding from hmmm?

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    I don't know how to do videos, but Gawker has at least a clip of Ms. Crazy Pants -
    http://gawker.com/5147940/hero-journ...on-baby+having
    Looks like she's had a nose job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota_Valkyrie View Post
    I wouldn't even have that many dogs at once.
    I do have that many dogs, and it is a full time job and exhausting! I may mop the floors two or three times in one day. All that hair to brush, medications to give, nails to trim....and they're DOGS! I can't even imagine HUMAN children in such a situation.

    The stupid bitch mentions that she had a 'dysfunctional' childhood. But she still lives with her parents. I don't suppose that she understands that she's raising her children in the exact same environment she grew up in...

    This whole situation is completely wrong. The doctor should be held accountable for his actions. And surely, DCS should be overseeing these children. (Overseeing their ADOPTIONS, that is.)

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    A beaming Dr. Karen Mapes appeared on "Larry King Live" this week to discuss the epic birth of octuplets she supervised at Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in Bellflower, but the ticker at the bottom of the screen said it all: "OCTUPLETS OUTRAGE."

    The story of Whittier mom Nadya Suleman has quickly turned from medical miracle to public fury -- so much so that Suleman herself complained in an interview that aired Friday on NBC's "Today" show that society is unfairly judging her.

    "I feel as though I've been under the microscope because I chose this unconventional life," she said, suggesting there is a double standard because she's a single mother.

    Instead of eliciting understanding and sympathy, her interview fueled more controversy.

    Suleman is an unemployed graduate student, lives with her parents and already had six children under the age of 8. She has become a lightning rod for criticism for the nation's healthcare woes, the economic crisis and the medical ethics of in vitro fertilization.

    The reaction is decidedly different from what occurred in 1998, when the first set of octuplets born in the United States were met with curiosity more than scorn. The Houston octuplets also had two parents and were born during better economic times.

    "Ten years ago, this would have been a medical miracle -- heartwarming, everyone would have been thrilled," said Allan Mayer, a crisis management specialist and principal partner at 42West in Los Angeles. "If everyone was riding high and feeling flush . . . it would be more of a 'live and let live' attitude. Now everyone is counting pennies. There's a lot less forgiveness these days than there would have been at the height of the boom. . . . The public is almost primed to go very quickly from joy to suspicion and fury."

    Much of the frustration comes from all the questions Suleman has yet to answer: what responsible fertility clinic would transfer so many embryos into a 33-year-old mother who already had six children and said she made it clear she did not believe in selective reduction? And how is she planning to provide both financial and emotional support to so many young children?

    Operators at the hospital fielded calls from more than two dozen disgruntled Kaiser members complaining about the mom's super-sized healthcare tab as they are struggling to pay for the medical care they need.

    Kaiser said the number of angry calls declined after the hospital made it clear it had nothing to do with getting Suleman pregnant.

    Some Kaiser members also e-mailed The Times. One asked the paper to "cover the discontent of the Kaiser octuplets," fearing that the cost of hospitalizing Suleman and the octuplets will be borne by current members.

    Kaiser declined to say how much Suleman's care is costing. According to records from the California Office of Statewide Health Planning and Development, the average charge for a cesarean section with complications is $7,095 per day.
    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,2129396.story

    Ha, I'm going to watch Larry King. More of the story on site.

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    LOS ANGELES—The fertility doctor who helped a California woman have 14 children, including octuplets born last month, is now facing a state investigation on top of harsh criticism from medical ethicists.

    The Medical Board of California did not identify the doctor who helped Nadya Suleman, 33, of Whittier, become pregnant with the six boys and two girls born on Jan. 26. Suleman has six other children.

    "We're looking into the matter to see if we can substantiate if there was a violation of the standard of care," board spokeswoman Candis Cohen said Friday. She did not elaborate.

    In the United States, there is no law dictating the number of embryos that can be placed in a mother's womb. Doctors say the norm is to implant two or three embryos, at most, in women Suleman's age.
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    In a portion of the interview that was aired last night, the mother said she had 6 implanted and two split to twins. She also said that due to "medical problems" she had many embryos implanted on previous pregnancies (which resulted in singles/twins) and had no reason tho believe that this time would be different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unamused Cat View Post
    Looks like she's had a nose job.
    Not only does it look like she had a nose job, but her lips look like she had them injected with silicon.

    I'm trying to catch up on this whole story. And I don't get her at all. I think she's just found a *gimick* to getting attention and money. All this dysfunctional only child syndrome bullshit bothers me.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...,1617934.story

    "I just longed for certain connections and attachments with another person that I -- I really lacked, I believe, growing up," Suleman said. "I didn't feel as though, when I was a child, I had much control of my environment. I felt powerless. And that gave me a sense of predictability. I -- reflecting back on my childhood, I know it wasn't functional. It was pretty -- pretty dysfunctional, and whose isn't?"

    Considerably more detail is provided in the 332 pages of documents released by the state in response to a public records request by The Times. Those paint a picture of a placid suburban childhood. Suleman herself said she was well-loved and close to her parents.

    Born in Fullerton and raised in La Puente, Hacienda Heights and Rowland Heights, she grew up in a "protected and sheltered" home environment, Suleman told a state-appointed doctor who was reviewing a workers' compensation claim. She enjoyed schoolwork and earned grades that were "well above average." She described herself as "half Arabic, half Lithuanian" and said she was brought up Protestant and continued to practice her religion. She is portrayed as an outgoing woman with many friends; a former cheerleader who liked reading and writing.
    I maybe really dense, but, can someone please point out the dysfunction to me? Pretty please??

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    Angry Aside from not being meant to fly, humans weren't meant to have litters either!

    My issues with this story:

    1) Having 8 more children at one time when you have 6 already. That said, I understand why she didn't want to selective reduce the size of her litter. I just think it's crazy to, as a single mom, feel this deep urge to have another litter.

    2) About this deep urge, there's what's wrong with her. Get over it lady. We all had sucky childhoods in one way or another. Your mom didn't have more babies than you? I can't imagine why. I'll bet you've been a pain in her ass since the day you were born. My point is that you do not have more kids just to have someone to love you.

    3) She still lives at home, in this "dysfunctional" home with her "bad" mom and dad. WTF? If they did such an insufficient job raising you, why are you still mooching off of them? Better yet, why are you subjecting your children to their terrible antics? Oh, I guess they must not be that bad after all, huh?

    4) You've got no job? You're a professional student? Again, WTF? My husband and I are both college educated people with jobs, and we can't afford our ONE child. I guess that makes me really mad. We work our asses off, work different shifts because we can't afford childcare - and this bitch* had the nerve to have 8 (even one would have been too many in my opinion) more children when she already had 6?!?!

    All this aside, before Dakota jumps on me, I don't have a problem with large families. I think that's fine. There's a family somewhere (can't remember, sorry) who just had their 18th baby in 18 years - now that sounds better to me. But I'm still trying to imagine what kind of house they own and what kind of bus they must drive. If you can afford it, go for it. Knock yourself out. I don't want to pay for it, though. It's entirely up to you to support your family, if you choose to have that many children. I won't have any more until I can support the one I've got. I just don't think Ms. "Professional Student - I'm gonna support them when I get a good job after I graduate" is in a position to currently take care of her brood without help from somewhere else. And then there's the matter of their psychological needs, not just the physical ones. It's irresponsible and reckless what she did, what that doctor did.

    I feel bad for those children. They are really the ones that will suffer the mother's choices. How do the first 6 feel knowing that they weren't enough? What will school be like for the octuplets?

    Oh well. Not my problem, but I am glad to have been able to vent about it. Now what I suggest is we stop paying any attention at all to, as someone else called her, Ms. Crazypants and then the media will too. All that support will just dry up when we take her off the front page, so stop asking about her and she will go away.

    PS - I say "bitch" with a clear conscience because that's what you call a female dog who has this many puppies in her litter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flawed_existence View Post
    I do have that many dogs, and it is a full time job and exhausting! I may mop the floors two or three times in one day. All that hair to brush, medications to give, nails to trim....and they're DOGS! I can't even imagine HUMAN children in such a situation.

    The stupid bitch mentions that she had a 'dysfunctional' childhood. But she still lives with her parents. I don't suppose that she understands that she's raising her children in the exact same environment she grew up in...

    This whole situation is completely wrong. The doctor should be held accountable for his actions. And surely, DCS should be overseeing these children. (Overseeing their ADOPTIONS, that is.)
    i've got 18 indoor dogs right now plus 3 kids & employees that help with the dogs. i think this woman is whacked. just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

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    I've also read in a few articles that she's planning on getting her master's in counseling. Apparently counseling is a super lucrative career, psychology's best kept secret.
    So she thinks she can foist her kiddos off on mom or maybe even her school's daycare, complete a master's program while of course spending plenty of precious time with her litter of little darlings, and then get a high powered career in counseling. Yeah, everything'll be great! She'll never have to worry about money again!
    Something she may not have considered... unbelievably unrealistic expectations of the money making abilities of counselors aside, who the fuck is going to want to take counsel from this loony? She's obviously quite unhinged herself, and since this whole thing has made her somewhat of a public figure, something tells me her services aren't exactly going to be in high demand.
    She's clearly fucking delusional.

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    competition for the Duggars?

    She could make money by having her family become a new show on the TLC channel, maybe going head to head with the Duggars (from the show 17 kids and counting)!

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    Two cribs and a double bed fill one of the three bedrooms where soon 16 people will be living.



    A RadarOnline.com reporter visited the Suleman house and described it as “filthy” with food on the walls.

    Interview with Grandma
    "The truth is Nadya's not capable of raising 14 children."

    The mother of the woman who gave birth to octuplets recently is speaking exclusively to RadarOnline.com and says her daughter's actions are "unconscionable."
    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...ot-capable.php

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    My conservative, rightwing leaning middle son called me about this on Saturday and was apparently under the impression I was going to defend her right to do this.

    He was in shock when I completely agreed with him that she is mentally unstable, the doctor should have his license revoked and she will be a drain on our country's resources!!

    He loves to argue politics with me and and was disappointed when I agreed with him!!

    He said "Mom, there's hope for you yet"!! I told him we only agree on this one point!

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    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- The mother who gave birth to octuplets identified a Beverly Hills fertility clinic that she said provided in-vitro fertilization for all 14 of her children.

    Nadya Suleman said in an interview that aired Monday on NBC's "Today" show that she used the West Coast IVF Clinic for all of her pregnancies.

    Video from 2006 that was aired Monday on KTLA-TV shows Dr. Michael Kamrava from the clinic treating Suleman and discussing the implantation process.

    Suleman did not name her doctor in the NBC interview but said the same doctor helped her conceive all 14 of her children at the clinic.

    Without identifying the doctor, the Medical Board of California said last week it was looking into the matter to see if there was a "violation of the standard of care" for implanting so many embryos.

    The medical board's Web site lists no previous actions taken against the doctor by the state.
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    From May 2006:
    About 20 percent of the time, embryos don't stick and fall out of the uterus. And that's pretty much what happens in Mother Nature, not all fertilized eggs or resulting embryos get into the uterus lining, mature and thrive. Infertility specialist Dr. Michael Kamrava felt there must be a way to help out Mother Nature.

    He holds the patent on a new instrument. The device transports the embryos in a tiny flexible catheter as Dr. Kamrava searches for the most ideal place for them to grow.

    Because of the improved accuracy, doctors don't have to insert as many embryos, reducing the chances of multiple pregnancies.

    "By doing this, actually inserting them inside the lining, we're sure it's going to be there," Kamrava said.
    http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...lth&id=4164438

    Given that, he's going to have a tough time explaining away why somany were implanted...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota_Valkyrie View Post
    A RadarOnline.com reporter visited the Suleman house and described it as “filthy” with food on the walls.
    That many kids at those ages, one caretaker...in all honesty no one should expect the house to be a *showcase*. Clothes and toys strewn about, smudgy walls, dishes in the sink, laundry piled up...goes with the territory especially if the caretaker [grandma] is EXHAUSTED! It's not like she can give them back at the end of the day or on weekends - to catch up on cleaning or even catch her breath!!

    And this Nadya doesn't help with the rent, housework, feeding, and whatnot? Man I would like to....oooh I'd like to....ooooooooohhhhh....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peeperann View Post
    My conservative, rightwing leaning middle son called me about this on Saturday and was apparently under the impression I was going to defend her right to do this.

    He was in shock when I completely agreed with him that she is mentally unstable, the doctor should have his license revoked and she will be a drain on our country's resources!!

    He loves to argue politics with me and and was disappointed when I agreed with him!!

    He said "Mom, there's hope for you yet"!! I told him we only agree on this one point!
    If your son is truly a conservative, he should be arguing in favor of her right to do this and against the social welfare programs that may end up supporting her.

    So, don't worry, Peeper, you're right on track with your staunch liberalism that endeavors to protect everyone from themselves. After all, it was the progressives who supported eugenics. Clearly, your son is gravatating to the Dark Side.

    The fact of the matter is, this woman has every right to have as many babies as she cares to so long as she's not abusing them, and there's no basis by which to strip the doctor of his license (from what I can tell). So long as this woman was made aware of the risks and was able to pay for the necessary treatment, what business is it of the fertility center gauge whether or not she should be having more children?

    Is that what we want? Do we want fertility centers deciding who gets to procreate and who doesn't? Isn't it bad enough that adoption in the U.S. is so damn expensive and strict about its qualifications?
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    http://fav.or.it/post/1093722/inside-the-suleman-home

    I don't know how to post these pictures but, the link has a couple more pictures on it. She obviously doesn't put much effort into keeping a clean home.

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    Not to sound rude, but sheets on the windows? If there are going to be sheets for a curtain, it sure as hell is going to be in my room and not my child's room. But that's just me. On top of that, if she can't afford a $.97 curtain rod and $3.00 curtains, then why is she touting that she can raise 8 more children on just student loans and grants?

    Our closet is messy, but it's only 3 peoples worth of clothes on the floor near the closet, not 8(6 kids plus grandma and mom) and it's not in every bed room. And really, I would rather be a single child and get every fucking thing I ever wanted, than having to share clothes, beds, blankets, shoes, friends, etc. Nothing wrong with having a big family, but her growing up an only child is what she called dysfunctional. Does she not think that having 8 more children on top of the 6 she already has is dysfunctional? Does she not believe her daycare costs(whenever she finishes school and gets a real job)are going to be at least $5000 a month(assuming they will be 4 by the time she is finished)for her 8 babies? That's not including how much it will cost for her other 6. It's madness. I don't know how she's going to do it. I believe she will eventually use the system, and that is when she is done with school.

    I'm just at a loss with her right now. She must be really hoping for a t.v. show or a book or something.
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    AP) LOS ANGELES - The mother who gave birth to octuplets acknowledged in an interview aired Monday that she was "fixated" on having children but said she never expected to have more than twins in her latest pregnancy.

    Nadya Suleman had four single births and one set of twins through in-vitro fertilization before her history-making pregnancy, but she told NBC’s "Today" show that for each of her six pregnancies, six embryos were implanted.

    "I know now that I may or may not have really deep down wanted that many siblings, but at the time I was so focused and fixated on wanting so many that I just kept going," she said.

    "Today" anchor Ann Curry then asked if Suleman "deluded" herself into thinking her six older children wanted a bigger family.

    "Not really deluded myself, but I knew that’s what I wanted," Suleman said in the interview, which was conducted Thursday.

    Suleman, who gave birth to the octuplets Jan. 26, also identified the clinic involved, West Coast IVF in Beverly Hills. She said one doctor helped her conceive all 14 of her children.

    She did not name the doctor, but KTLA-TV of Los Angeles on Monday aired video it shot in 2006 of Dr. Michael Kamrava from the clinic treating Suleman and discussing the implantation process.

    Without identifying the doctor, the Medical Board of California said last week it was looking into the matter to see if there was a "violation of the standard of care" for implanting so many embryos.

    The medical board’s Web site lists no previous actions taken against Kamrava by the state.

    Kamrava did not immediately return a pager message left by The Associated Press and a receptionist at the clinic said he was not giving interviews.

    Medical ethicists have expressed shock that a doctor would implant so many embryos. National guidelines put the norm at two to three embryos for a woman of Suleman’s age in order to lessen the health risks to the mother and the chances of multiple births.

    Suleman, 33, of Whittier, told Curry that her doctor "did nothing wrong" and had warned her of possible complications to the pregnancy and risks to the babies’ development.

    Suleman said she had six embryos implanted for each of her five previous pregnancies. The octuplets were a surprise result of her last set of six embryos, she said, explaining she had expected twins at most.

    She told NBC she always wanted a huge family to make up for the isolation she felt as an only child.

    Kamrava is a well-known fertility specialist who pioneered a method for implanting embryos directly into the uterine lining.

    Dr. Jeffrey Steinberg, a professional acquaintance, said Kamrava worked to develop an embryo transfer device that allows doctors to implant an embryo _ or sometimes sperm with an unfertilized egg _ directly into the uterine lining using a plastic capsule.

    "Usually we inject the embryos into the uterus and they float around and attach themselves," said Steinberg.

    It was not immediately known if the technique was used on Suleman. Steinberg said there was no evidence the method improved success rates for pregnancy.

    On Sunday, Suleman’s mother seemed to contradict her daughter’s statement that one doctor was involved in all 14 births. Angela Suleman told a Web site the fertility specialist who helped her daughter give birth to the octuplets was different from the one who aided in the birth of her first six children.

    In an interview with celebrity news Web site RadarOnline.com, Angela Suleman said she and her ex-husband pleaded with Nadya’s first fertility doctor not to treat their daughter again. She said her daughter went to another doctor.

    "I’m really angry about that," Angela Suleman said of the doctor’s decision to perform the procedure.

    "She already has six beautiful children, why would she do this?" Angela Suleman said. "I’m struggling to look after her six. We had to put in bunk beds, feed them in shifts and there’s children’s clothing piled all over the house."

    The Web site posted photographs from inside Angela Suleman’s disheveled three-bedroom home, where Nadya and her six older children also live. Heaps of clothing pour from an open closet door and a carpeted bedroom, where a bedsheet serves as a curtain, is cluttered with cribs.

    Angela Suleman said Nadya’s boyfriend was the biological father of all 14 children, but that she refused to marry him.

    "He was in love with her and wanted to marry her," she said. "But Nadya wanted to have children on her own."

    Nadya Suleman’s publicist Mike Furtney did not immediately return a telephone message seeking comment Monday. He said late Sunday that his client has been away for nearly two months, so she shouldn’t be held responsible for the home’s current condition.

    Furtney said his client planned to move into a larger home once the octuplets were healthy enough to leave their doctors’ care.

    He declined to comment on any of the remarks Angela Suleman made about her daughter in the interview.

    "Those are very personal issues between a mother and a daughter," he said.
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    Furtney said his client planned to move into a larger home once the octuplets were healthy enough to leave their doctors’ care.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't they struggling as it was? How would she be able to afford a larger home? Or is this a case of banking on a TV Show/Book deal once everything went public...

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    She also told NBC that she does not intend to go on welfare, though her publicist confirmed Monday that Suleman already receives food stamps and child disability payments to help feed and care for her six other children.

    Suleman's publicist Mike Furtney said she receives $490 a month in food stamps. Three of Suleman's previous children are disabled, Furtney said, but Suleman did not want to disclose the nature of the disabilities, or the type or sum of the payments.

    "In her view these are just payments made for people with legitimate needs and are not, in her view, welfare," Furtney said. "She just believes that there are programs for people with needs and she and her children qualify for some of them."
    Isn't that welfare? Maybe I'm the retard, but I don't think so. Again, I don't fault her for wanting a large family. But on her own? Without the financial means to support them? Give me a break!

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    This selfish bitch just pisses me off!

    First, she uses her boyfriend as the sperm donor - which gets HIM off the hook for support. She refuses to marry him - which gets HIM off the hook for support. Sooo... he's good enough to father your children, just not good enough to marry or help raise them? Get a clue you stupid cunt. It's NOT all about YOU, YOU, YOU!! It's about what is best for those 14 children. Not one decision you've made in your life has been about someone else. Everything is about "poor Nadya"... boo hoo. You've ruled your parents your whole life because you're a spoiled, rotten brat! You just "assume" they will do your bidding forever, leaving you to make any irresponsible decision you want, because obviously, there's never been any consequences. I pray that for once, these parents follow thru on walking away. They have done their daughter NO favors by letting her live with them, unemployed, popping out baby after baby. She saved HER money for these treatments - while her parents lost THEIR home?!!? Selfish bitch!

    And the conditions of the home? She tried to blame her parents since "she hasn't been there for a month or two". I don't buy it. In my opinion, that is the mess Nadya left and mom has been too damn busy taking care of Nadya's children to tackle the mess that was left. And why should she? They aren't HER children! ANGELA did not irresponsibly go about creating her own baseball team!

    And lastly, she's either stupid as fuck or just plain a LIAR! Claiming she isn't on welfare - yet she receives nearly $500 a month in food stamps! Ummm... THAT IS WELFARE! Plus the fact that some of her "older" children have disabilities - just bumps the selfishness up a notch. Those kids need extra care and attention and bitch -- you just blew any chance of that!

    Nadya Suleman is off her fucking rocker. Now that we know who the father is, and that she has a relationship with him - I pray the state goes after him for child support. They should also make the damn doctor pay, too. It's been stated he was at the very least irresponsible in implanting so many embryo's in a woman Nadya's age.

    When asked how she'll support them all she states, "I'll just go back to school and use the grants to support them". OMFG! How about a J-O-B?

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