husband went to Iraq to work?!? nice of him to help out...can you imagine caring for 14 youngins? 8 newborns, and 6 others? I raised my son alone for 7 yrs, that was hard enough.
14 kids, as long as tax payers arent footin the bill, I dont have a problem with it...
That isn't the husband of the octuplets mom going to work, it is her father. Her own father has to help raise her kids cause she is jobless, not married or even partnered, and irresonsible. She can't afford all 14 kids, that is point. She had them cause she is sick in the head and now she will be rewarded for it. She is profiting from her kids, not mothering them.
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Another report is circulating that she didn't have that many implanted but they may have split on their own into more. Don't know how much of that is true... but it is preferable to believing some doctor actually put 8 in.
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I haven't verified this yet, but we were discussing this in the office this morning, and one of my co-workers mentioned that Oprah asked to have her on the show, and she'd help with the expenses that go along with raising babies and stuff. She turned Oprah's offer down saying that she'd do it for 2(?) million. Anyone else heard or seen that?Originally Posted by Nell
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I've heard similar. BUT she is not seeking out the media. The media is seeking out her. If she chooses to ask for money, I can't fault her for that. It is a very common practice in the case of large multiples. It started way back in the 30's with the Dionne quintuplets. Quints are barely newsworthy any more.
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I saw that. She is selling her story to the highest bidder.
I would too.
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Well of course you would now that the kids are here, but would you irresponsibly have 14 kids, knowing you couldn't afford them, and bank on this to support them? I don't think you would but i think this woman did. I still have my uterus, what would you all say if I had 5 or 6 more kids, knowing I have 5 already that I struggle to take care of?
I like big families. But this is something else.
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I thought the Duggar family was a little nutty back when they had 12 or 13 kids and he was running for Congress. But in that case, there's 2 parents, and they didn't have 14 kids under the age of 7. They had older ones to help out.
I think that's my problem with this. I am a geographically-single mom right now, and I only have 2 kids. I struggle every day to make sure I'm giving both of them my attention. I can't even begin to imagine how she's going to do it. And I feel sorry for the six kids she already had. I know her mom is there to help, but with eight babies to feed, change, etc., that's still kind of "understaffed." I don't think she'll necessarily neglect the other kids in a food/clothing/shelter kind of way, but what about emotional neglect. There's only so many hours in the day, and newborns take up a lot of time.
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I don't know that she intended to have this many. I don't know that she intended to have more than one. I don't know that she's been a bad mom up until now. I don't know that she intended to profit off this.
If everything that is being said is true, I agree that there is something wrong. But until I hear whet she has to say, it's really nothing more than rumor.
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I never said she was a bad mom. I think even if she only intended to have one more (which I doubt, cause i don't think it split 8 times) she already had 6 kids, she doesn't have a job and relies heavily on her parents and student loan money. So to even have one more baby is not a wise decision, much less 8.
I think that she had 7 implanted and 1 split. That would explain how they didn't know about the 8th baby. But early in the pregnancy she knew, and decided to carry on with the births. If she has half a brain she knew that she would be famous for even just 7 kids, never mind the 8th, and getting money from companies and such would be the way to go.
And as Spitfire and I have pointed out, best mom in the world cannott give love and attention to that many babies and toddlers. You can't even have that many kids in a daycare center with just one caretaker. It is against the law.
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I'm not disagreeing with you - per se. Just saying there is too much unknown. No - she will not be able to give that many young kids all they need attention wise. But with enough money it can be a lot easier on everyone.
You hear huge families like this all the time:
25 boys in one house: http://www.usatoday.com/life/2003-11...ock-boys_x.htm
(2 years after that they had 35 kids http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/...BS&FMTS=ABS:FT)
Legally adopted 22 kids http://cbs4.com/neighbors/neighbors.....2.924924.html
3 natural kids and 13 adopted http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/28062
Do I think she is anywhere as capable as them? More than likely not. But the $$ will make a huge difference.
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Well than I may just start me a cult, cause I need money but I don't want to raise 8 more kids.Maybe her crazy ass will join.
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ME EITHER! But as I said, if things were different, I think hubby and I would have had more than 6 kids. He wanted 12.
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I read that she is asking for 2 million to follow her story.
Report child Abuse 1-800-4-A-CHILD * Missing and Exploited 1-800-THE-LOST
You may adopt me and my 5 kids. I will move in immediatelly and call you mom. No need to go through all those pregnancies.
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You could not live at home as you are too old. So you will have to stay put. I would gladly accept those grandbabies!
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I had to go to post #28 to find the FIRST post with a link to an article??? Link it up folks, please?
Here's a good one with lots of articles:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009...fornia_oc.html
YOUR mom.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,488627,00.htmlLOS ANGELES — State documents disclosed to The Associated Press show that Nadya Suleman, the mother of the recently-delivered octuplets, received more than $165,000 in disability payments for an on-the-job back injury.
She worked at a state mental hospital from 1997 until December when she resigned. The payments were made between 2002 and 2008, during which time Suleman gave birth to most of her six other children.
The documents, provided to the AP on Thursday following a public records request to the Department of Mental Health, also show that Suleman had three miscarriages before she first became a mother.
PHOTOS: And Octuplets Make 14
Reporters from all over the map have camped outside her doorstep and surrounded the hospital where she gave birth to the eight healthy babies last week, but people still don't know much about Suleman. That's about to change.
After managing to avoid reporters as she left the hospital Thursday morning, Suleman headed for her first interview, with Ann Curry of NBC's "Today" show. One of the octuplets mother's hastily hired publicists said she is staying at "an undisclosed location" while she considers offers including possible book and TV deals.
Suleman told NBC she wanted a huge family to make up for the isolation she said she always felt as an only child.
In a brief excerpt of the interview released Thursday, the 33-year-old single mother said she had a dysfunctional childhood and sought to erase that with the closeness children could bring. The full interview will air Monday.
NBC News spokeswoman Megan Kopf said Suleman was not paid for the interview.
Not even a photo of Suleman has emerged and public records shed little light on her. The 33-year-old single mother, who now has 14 children under the age of 8, has used different names over the years and has been married and divorced once.
I think the big story here is going to be HOW THE HELL did this happen? Some doctors head better roll...
although it's going to have to roll UP hill because he's gutter scum.
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Jon & Kate plus 8.....must be pissed as hell right about now.....lol...
God i used to love watching their show on TLC...until the babies got to the brat stage....all that crying & screaming.....whew.....I change the channel now.
...I don't feel sorry for people who implant their uterus with half a dozen embryos....It's their choice .....so deal with it....don't ask us to raise your babies for you...It's become a fucking freak show
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But what about her doctor, you remember him? The one who performed the IVF's? What does this say about his ethics? Knowing this 33 y.o. already had six young ones at home and goes right on ahead and does more IVF's?
There are some ethical issues involved in this case. Both the physician and the mother. Funny how he's never at any of the pressers, huh? Guess Ann Curry will get the scoop, huh? NBC/Universal said they don't pay for interviews ....
CPS should be all over this one right away, IMO. Before the babies come home, I mean. Since she doesn't work and all, and she's a professional mom, this should be a walk in the park for her on this front.
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That bitch really annoys me. Who knew that having 14 kids could cure depression? Quick, somebody lend me a dozen eggs!
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I don't think its the large family that makes her the mental case. Its the fact that her 6 kids are aged 2 to 7 and now she has 8 friggin newborns.
Glutton for punishment?
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,1342962.storyFor seven years, beginning in her teens, Nadya Suleman tried to have a baby. She suffered three miscarriages. She tried artificial insemination and fertility drugs, to no avail. By 2000, a back injury and her inability to bear children had sent her into a deep depression in which she told a psychiatrist that she had suicidal thoughts.
On many days, she did not get out of bed. One doctor asked her what activities she had given up. Her answer: "Everything."
That same year, she tried in vitro fertilization and became pregnant.
"And then," she said, "I just kept going in."
Hundreds of pages of state documents reviewed by The Times and excerpts from her first interview, which was recorded Thursday by NBC News hours after she was released from the hospital, began to sketch a portrait of the 33-year-old Whittier woman who gave birth last week to octuplets.
Suleman, a single mother who already had six other children and lives with her parents, has come under fierce criticism for giving birth to the octuplets. In her interview with NBC's Ann Curry, she tried to explain why she wanted to have so many children.
"I just longed for certain connections and attachments with another person that I -- I really lacked, I believe, growing up," Suleman said. "I didn't feel as though, when I was a child, I had much control of my environment. I felt powerless. And that gave me a sense of predictability. I -- reflecting back on my childhood, I know it wasn't functional. It was pretty -- pretty dysfunctional, and whose isn't?"
Suleman didn't elaborate in the portion of the interview released by NBC (more will be broadcast on "Today" on Monday and on "Dateline NBC" on Tuesday). But she said her childhood made her yearn for many children of her own.
"That was always a dream of mine, to have a large family, a huge family," she said.
Considerably more detail is provided in the 332 pages of documents released by the state in response to a public records request by The Times. Those paint a picture of a placid suburban childhood. Suleman herself said she was well-loved and close to her parents.
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Ok. I rest my case. Who is the IVF physician that decided she was both physically and mentally able to have more children? If just this little bit if information is available to the public, can one even imagine what is hippa-protected about this new mother?
I saw this tease of an interview this morning. Of course, NBC will drag it out for the "exclusive" as long as possible. Ann Curry questioned her with kid gloves and showed more restraint than I ever could have. The questions had to have been pre-screened by her newly hired publicity firm (spit on them).
I don't even want to get into the healthcare issues of this whole thing; not just the mother but ALL of the children. The mother's bad back? Her depression issues? And yet it was determined she was a candidate for yet another IVF "experiment" which is what I'm feeling whole charade is/was.
I worked with a woman about this age who had a couple of IVF's. There was absolutely no way the IVF specialists would've implanted that many embryos. No fucking way. And this young lady was about the same age, good physical and mental history.
This is not normal. I'll bet this new mother of 14 couldn't have passed an adoption screening (and not just because she's single). Why did I know she was going to say that? She's an attention whore.
Who does she think she's fucking kidding?
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Selfish. She had kid after kid cause she wanted to feel loved. You can't have babies for that reason, they are real people. Get a dog lady."I just longed for certain connections and attachments with another person that I -- I really lacked, I believe, growing up,"
And AMEN Stella!
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I wouldn't even have that many dogs at once.
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I don't know how to do videos, but Gawker has at least a clip of Ms. Crazy Pants -
http://gawker.com/5147940/hero-journ...on-baby+having
I couldn't stand to watch Crazy and her over-inflated lips the entire time - but Ann Curry does a good job I think, isn't too softball w/the questions.
PS - I LOVE how Crazy says "Once I'm done my education I know I'll be able to support them" Bitch, I am a newly graduated attorney from a good school, passed one of the hardest bars, and even if I COULD find a job right now - it wouldn't pay for 14 kids. (In case you couldn't tell, this video completely pushed me over the "She's a dumb woman who did this for all the wrong reasons" edge..
PPS - I heard, and I don't know the link now, but heard that Gerbers & Pampers were already asked to donate by Crazy's PR people - and they said NO. YAY.
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Even if she could suddenly get a high paying job, how is she going to be able to finish school? I mean, where is she going to find the time to devote to her education? I suppose she's going to depend on other people to "step up" as she puts it in that interview with NBC. Child care expenses alone are bound to exceed more than any monthly income she's likely to ever earn.PS - I LOVE how Crazy says "Once I'm done my education I know I'll be able to support them" Bitch, I am a newly graduated attorney from a good school, passed one of the hardest bars, and even if I COULD find a job right now - it wouldn't pay for 14 kids. (In case you couldn't tell, this video completely pushed me over the "She's a dumb woman who did this for all the wrong reasons" edge..
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