Octomom: Nadya Suleman Has Octuplets

[pissedoffindaytona]

Octuplets born in Calif. hospital LOS ANGELES – The woman who gave birth to octuplets this week conceived all 14 of her children through in vitro fertilization, is not married and has been obsessed with having children since she was a teenager, her mother said.

Angela Suleman told The Associated Press she was not supportive when her daughter, Nadya Suleman, decided to have more embryos implanted last year.

"It can't go on any longer," she said in a phone interview Friday. "She's got six children and no husband. I was brought up the traditional way. I firmly believe in marriage. But she didn't want to get married."

Nadya Suleman, 33, gave birth Monday in nearby Bellflower. She was expected to remain in the hospital for at least a few more days, and her newborns for at least a month.

A spokeswoman at Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center said the babies were doing well and seven were breathing unassisted.

While her daughter recovers, Angela Suleman is taking care of the other six children, ages 2 through 7, at the family home in Whittier, about 15 miles east of downtown Los Angeles.

She said she warned her daughter that when she gets home from the hospital, "I'm going to be gone."

Angela Suleman said her daughter always had trouble conceiving and underwent in vitro fertilization treatments because her fallopian tubes are "plugged up."

There were frozen embryos left over after her previous pregnancies and her daughter didn't want them destroyed, so she decided to have more children.

Her mother and doctors have said the woman was told she had the option to abort some of the embryos and, later, the fetuses. She refused.

Her mother said she does not believe her daughter will have any more children.

"She doesn't have any more (frozen embryos), so it's over now," she said. "It has to be."

Nadya Suleman wanted to have children since she was a teenager, "but luckily she couldn't," her mother said.

"Instead of becoming a kindergarten teacher or something, she started having them, but not the normal way," he mother said.

Her daughter's obsession with children caused Angela Suleman considerable stress, so she sought help from a psychologist, who told her to order her daughter out of the house.

"Maybe she wouldn't have had so many kids then, but she is a grown woman," Angela Suleman said. "I feel responsible and I didn't want to throw her out."

Yolanda Garcia, 49, of Whittier, said she helped care for Nadya Suleman's autistic son three years ago.

"From what I could tell back then, she was pretty happy with herself, saying she liked having kids and she wanted 12 kids in all," Garcia told the Long Beach Press-Telegram.

"She told me that all of her kids were through in vitro, and I said 'Gosh, how can you afford that and go to school at the same time?"' she added. "And she said it's because she got paid for it."

Garcia said she did not ask for details.

Nadya Suleman holds a 2006 degree in child and adolescent development from California State University, Fullerton, and as late as last spring she was studying for a master's degree in counseling, college spokeswoman Paula Selleck told the Press-Telegram.

Her fertility doctor has not been identified. Her mother told the Los Angeles Times all the children came from the same sperm donor but she declined to identify him.

Birth certificates reviewed by The Associated Press identify a David Solomon as the father for the four oldest children. Certificates for the other children were not immediately available.

The news that the octuplets' mother already had six children sparked an ethical debate. Some medical experts were disturbed to hear that she was offered fertility treatment, and troubled by the possibility that she was implanted with so many embryos.

Others worried that she would be overwhelmed trying to raise so many children and would end up relying on public support.

The eight babies — six boys and two girls — were delivered by Cesarean section weighing between 1 pound, 8 ounces and 3 pounds, 4 ounces. Forty-six physicians and staff assisted in the deliveries.


This is ridiculous!! IMO, this woman should not have had invitro, she already 6 kids, I thought invitro is for women who have difficulty getting pregnant, and to top it off she can't even support them, 14 kids is outrageous, there should have been some kind of mental counseling here because this woman def has some issues!!

[Peeperann]

Ummm, yeah she should get counseling! I just got pissed when I found out she already had 6 young ones at home. What the hell were the doctors thinking doing this??

I hope all 14 children will be fine, but the mother and doctors should be jailed for doing this.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Single. Living at home. Her mom declared bankruptcy last year (due to failed investment property). Her dad is Iraqi and will be returning there to work (he can make more $$ there??)

IF (and a BIG if) they - as an extended family - can support the kids, keep them healthy and un-abused - I see no reason she should not. It is not something I would do, but there are those that can. Is it ideal? Probably not but I don't know enough specifics.

My mother-in-law raised 10 kids. When she was pregnant with the last, her husband became disabled and lived the rest of his life in a wheelchair. A disabled daughter died at 15, but all the other kids are successful healthy adults. No drug or alcohol problems, no black sheep jail birds. All farmers, business owners, military, nurses, or computer geeks. Only one to ever divorce was my husband (glad he did!). His family was one of the reasons I married him.

While I personally find it a bit ridiculous, I would want to know about how she's supporting them, how she's raising them, and a multitude of other things.

[Unamused Cat]

It's obvious to me that she is a mental case. No reputable doctor should have allowed her to have more children, much less eight additional welfare babies.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

It's obvious to me that she is a mental case. No reputable doctor should have allowed her to have more children, much less eight additional welfare babies.

I have not found anywhere that it says she was getting government assistance. In fact, they seem to have the financial ability to to do the IV procedures, which I understand are not cheap.

What the doctor did is apparently not illegal as the state medical boards are not bringing charges or investigating at this point (and so far say they don't intend to). I don't how medical ethics fit into this... but more will come out I am sure.

Why is wanting a large family a "mental case"? If you can afford it and can mentally and physically do it, why not?

[pissedoffindaytona]

I have not found anywhere that it says she was getting government assistance. In fact, they seem to have the financial ability to to do the IV procedures, which I understand are not cheap.

What the doctor did is apparently not illegal as the state medical boards are not bringing charges or investigating at this point (and so far say they don't intend to). I don't how medical ethics fit into this... but more will come out I am sure.

Why is wanting a large family a "mental case"? If you can afford it and can mentally and physically do it, why not?

what I've read is that the family claimed bankruptcy recently and they live in a 1500 sq ft home, that alone tells me quite a bit

[Zibarro]

Single, living with her mother, 14 children under the age of 7 (ohmyfreakin'god), no job (that we've heard of), tiny home, at least 1 special needs child, soon to be homeless - ummm, yeah ---

What sounds RIGHT about this?

There is no way in hell she can afford to care for these kids properly. The size home she'd need, the size vehicle, clothing, diapers, formula (she ain't gonna breast feed 8 babies), bath supplies, beds and bedding, food, shoes, car seats, medical care, strollers, swings, playpens, sitters, etc., etc.,.... the list goes on and on until they are (at least) 18.

If she ain't Oprah (Ms. Moneybags) - I don't see how she'll do it.

It's totally irresponsible on both her part and the doctor's part.

[Nell]

Were all of her other births singles? I just don't know how she will properly take care of just the basic needs of 8 newborns, who have got to have some kind of disabilities. Never mind all 14 of them, just the new ones!! How will she find the time and energy to diaper and feed them all? When will she sleep? Even if she has all the money in the world, which I doubt, she physically cannott do this alone. Since her own mother is bailing I don't think she has a lot of family support.

She sounds like a nut. This isn't a case of a big family that can take care of its own, this is a crazy woman who collects babies like cats. Poor babies.

[pissedoffindaytona]

Single, living with her mother, 14 children under the age of 7 (ohmyfreakin'god), no job (that we've heard of), tiny home, at least 1 special needs child, soon to be homeless - ummm, yeah ---

What sounds RIGHT about this?

There is no way in hell she can afford to care for these kids properly. The size home she'd need, the size vehicle, clothing, diapers, formula (she ain't gonna breast feed 8 babies), bath supplies, beds and bedding, food, shoes, car seats, medical care, strollers, swings, playpens, sitters, etc., etc.,.... the list goes on and on until they are (at least) 18.

If she ain't Oprah (Ms. Moneybags) - I don't see how she'll do it.

It's totally irresponsible on both her part and the doctor's part.

you know it, I think she did this on purpose for notoreity and hand outs from companies, which will happen, maybe even a reality show? she claimed bankruptcy for over $980,000, it cost a min of $100,000 to raise 1 child!! she supposedly has some kind of psych degree, but hasn't worked, Ipersonally think she is psycho

[Steph]

you know it, I think she did this on purpose for notoreity and hand outs from companies, which will happen, maybe even a reality show? she claimed bankruptcy for over $980,000, it cost a min of $100,000 to raise 1 child!! she supposedly has some kind of psych degree, but hasn't worked, Ipersonally think she is psycho

I agree!!!! I think she did this on purpose to get on a TLC show. When they intro'd all the new reality shows (ie, 300 lb Mom, Dad, Son, Me and All My Crazy Kids) I told my BF that people would start getting fat and having tons of kids to get a show. This is what you get for promoting ridiculously large families TLC, and if this crazy bitch gets one, I will be saying goodbye to "What Not to Wear"

Her poor father, the octopulets grandfather, is apparently heading to Iraq as a contractor to support them all

[Sister Iroz]

you know it, I think she did this on purpose for notoreity and hand outs from companies, which will happen, maybe even a reality show? she claimed bankruptcy for over $980,000, it cost a min of $100,000 to raise 1 child!! she supposedly has some kind of psych degree, but hasn't worked, Ipersonally think she is psycho

I think the same thing. You know people will pitch in hearing about the story. Did she claim bankruptcy or her mother.

[Peeperann]

Bingo! She wants the fame. There is no way a single person can give all the love and attention all 14 of those kids need. Yes, she can love them enough, but take care of them? No. Everyone knows I have 6 children, and it took everything I had to give them all the personal, separate attention they needed. I did it, but it wasn't always easy.

Add 8 more, all the same age into the mix, those kids are not going to get what they need. I have no problem with people wanting a large family, I have one, but it gets to a point where it becomes something else.

It's like she is missing something inside herself and is trying to fill it with babies and attention.

The doctors are just crazy that did this.

[MichaelJCheaney]

Y'all are missing the big picture here.

Single woman. 14 kids. No job. Soon to be presumably homeless.

This has all the makings of an Oprah fundraiser. Or a Discovery Channel Reality series, where she gets a new home, a job, and the ability to be on TV once a week.

Its genius.....

[Silvahalo]

My grandmother had 12, my mother 7, really nine if you count the two she lost.
She told me that having children was an attempt to find happiness. Not once did she consider if she could actually afford 7 children. For those with the means and the support not to mention the mental faculties, I say go for it, assuming you are not trying to fill a void.

I would never consider having more than 3 children. I have two now and if things were different, I might go for the 3rd. Children are a blessing and treasures, but not literally, to have, simply to showcase.I don't see this women having a real means to properly care for all these children. She doesn't even have a partner, fuck, how will she keep up with all their needs and save her sanity too? How will she give them all the attention they need and not just meet their basic needs?

I think the number of children you have is a personal choice that should be weighed very carefully. Good luck, really, I hope the children don't pay a high price for making such an outrageous decision.

[Steph]

Y'all are missing the big picture here.

Single woman. 14 kids. No job. Soon to be presumably homeless.

This has all the makings of an Oprah fundraiser. Or a Discovery Channel Reality series, where she gets a new home, a job, and the ability to be on TV once a week.

Its genius.....

No, not missing the big picture, that's the EXACT picture we were talking about (I said TLC network - discovery channel, same difference)

Oprah will say she's above this - I see this more a Dr. Phil special.

ps. MJC - we don't have a "you crack me up" button, but you pretty much always do. Thanks : )

[pissedoffindaytona]

[Dakota Valkyrie]

I'm not saying she was (or is) right. So much is coming out now and so many sources contradict others. Until the dust settles, there is really no knowing. Although it just keep s looking worse and worse.

Some reports say she hasn't worked. Others say she works at a fertility clinic. Where did she get the $$ to do this (if she didn't work at a clinic?) No one has said she's on aid up to now.

Some reports say the mom filed bankruptcy, while others say it was the grandmother (to get out from under a failing investment property).

Some say no one knows who the father is, but others say one man is the father of ALL her kids and the embryos are all part of the initial fertilization (and frozen for later use). She didn't want any of them to be destroyed.

Kaiser counseled her on the options once the knew she had multiples and she chose to continue. If you are pro-choice, this is the other side of the coin.

Now her mother says she is moving out and will no longer help with the babies. Her dad is returning to Iraq to earn more money.

You can be assured that this woman and these children will be scrutinized far beyond normal... not only by the system but by every single person around them. If things as they are being made out to be, they will be taken from her.

But in no way shape or form do I think simply wanting a large family is a sign of mental illness. There is more to it in this case.


For all will know, she may have intentions/plans of giving some up for adoption?

[theskyisfalling]

I don't think 14 kids is something that I could handle. I'm stressed with the two I already have. There is no way in hell this woman is capable of taking care of all of them properly without state aid. What a tard.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

And if I my husband and I had been younger when we met, we would have had more than 6 kids. Luckily we didn't as I have found grand kids to be a hell of a lot easier and more fun too!

[MichaelJCheaney]

California thinks it has money problems now?

Wait til these kids all end up on the Government teat......

[Dakota Valkyrie]

She'd just doing her bit to stimulate the economy!

[angela]

With in-vitro, don't you have to have some kind of psycological (sp) testing done and they look at the "big picture" of your life? At what point does the dr., knowing full well she lives at home w/her parents and no spouse 6 OTHER kids, gives the thumbs up like this is a good idea?

[Nell]

With in-vitro, don't you have to have some kind of psycological (sp) testing done and they look at the "big picture" of your life? At what point does the dr., knowing full well she lives at home w/her parents and no spouse 6 OTHER kids, gives the thumbs up like this is a good idea?

Not really. If you have money you can get it done.

And he gave it a thumbs up when he got paid. Some Drs. don't care.

If she did work at a fertility clinic they may have been paying her wages in in vitro procedures instead of money. Or maybe he wanted to see how many kids at once this looney bitch could pop out? Who the fuck knows, but Doc should be slapped, if not sanctioned.

[pissedoffindaytona]

California thinks it has money problems now?

Wait til these kids all end up on the Government teat......

Maybe they will give her IOU's

[Pete Bondurant]

This is terrible. Fourteen...un-white babies! This madness must end! Sterilise this bitch, yesterday!

[RaVen Blackehart]

[MichaelJCheaney]

She'd just doing her bit to stimulate the economy!

Cuz lord knows with 14 kids no man will ever want to stimulate her....

[DogMom]

Um...looks like she's not wasting any time.

Octuplets’ mother wants Oprah to turn her into a $2m TV star

THE single mother of octuplets born in California last week is seeking $2m (£1.37m) from media interviews and commercial sponsorship to help pay the cost of raising the children.

Nadya Suleman, 33, plans a career as a television childcare expert, since it emerged last week that she already had six children before giving birth on Monday. She now has 14 below the age of eight.

Nadya Suleman, who describes herself as a “professional student” who lives off education grants and parental money...[/QUOTE]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle5627531.ece


People who have large families don't rely on educational grants and parental money. Nor do they plan to be television hosts 1 week post-partum. Something is really wrong with this woman.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Um...looks like she's not wasting any time.
...
People who have large families don't rely on educational grants and parental money. Nor do they plan to be television hosts 1 week post-partum. Something is really wrong with this woman.

Agreed - but I would ask money for an interview. I doubt she sought them out. More likely the media has descended on her. As a normal person with no special story, I'd do it for free.

[Sister Iroz]

LOS ANGELES — The mother of the world's longest-living octuplets is being deluged with offers for book deals, TV shows and other business proposals, but has not decided what she might do other than care for her children, her newly hired spokeswoman said Monday.

Hundreds of requests have been made since Nadya Suleman gave birth to six boys and two girls a week ago, said Joann Killeen, president of Killeen Furtney Group, a public relations company.

"She's the most sought after mom in the world right now," Killeen said. "Everyone wants to talk to her."

But Suleman, who remained hospitalized with her children Monday at Kaiser Permanente's Bellflower Medical Center, hasn't decided what she'll do next, Killeen said.

Some of the deals and requests for interviews involve offers to pay, said Killeen and her partner, Mike Furtney. They didn't reveal the amounts being offered, but Killeen noted that raising eight babies will be expensive, adding that Suleman plans to carefully review her financial opportunities.

"Right now her top priority is to be the best mom she can be to all her children," she said. "She's hired us to manage all of those opportunities."

The spokeswoman discounted some published reports that Suleman had already decided to host a television show on parenting. But she added that Suleman does want to eventually tell her story to the world.

"As soon as she's able, she will tell her story, and it's an amazing story," she said.

Suleman, a 33-year-old single mother, already had six children, ages 2 to 7 when she gave birth to her octuplets on Jan. 26.

Her babies continue to grow stronger, the hospital said in a statement Monday. It wasn't immediately known when the octuplets or their mother would be released from the hospital. At the time of the births, doctors said the babies would stay about two months.

"This has been a very good week for the babies. It is always satisfying to be able to see a baby that was born premature continue to get stronger every day," said Dr. Mandhir Gupta, a neonatologist at the hospital.

In seven other documented octuplet births, at least one of the babies died within a week. The world's first live octuplets, born in 1967 in Mexico City, all died within 14 hours.

The first set of U.S. octuplets was born to Nkem Chukwu of Texas on Dec. 20, 1998. A week later, the tiniest infant died of heart and lung failure. The surviving seven siblings celebrated their 10th birthday in December.

Suleman retained the Killeen Furtney Group to represent her last Friday. Furtney said the company, which normally handles corporate clients and crisis public relations, was referred to her by the hospital. Its clients include the Union Pacific Railroad and the California State Parks Department.

Suleman's mother told The Associated Press last week that her daughter has always loved children and had wanted to be a mother since her teens.

Suleman had all 14 of her children through in vitro fertilization, according to her mother, Angela Suleman, who is caring for the other six while her daughter is hospitalized.

http://www.wral.com/news/national_wo...story/4452403/
I knew it. They were going to come running.