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    Exclamation Stacey Parnitzke And Shane Casey Are Sick

    Vermont - 40-year-old Stacey Parnitzke and 38-year-old Shane Casey are charged with having threesomes with a 9-year-old girl. Parnitzke woud have the girl watch pornographic videos, then have the girl perform the sex acts on Casey. A police affidavit also alludes to the possibility of the young girl being drugged as well.

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    $25,000 bail? That's too low if you ask me.

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    I was Shane's girlfriend from March 2002 to May 2006

    In the title of this thread, the author states in part that Shane Casey is sick. Well, as a matter of fact, Shane was diagnosed with advanced Multiple Sclerosis right around the time that this troubled little girl says Shane was abusing her and I have some good idea why she eventually decided to destroy Shane's life with her fabrications about him.

    I was there when Shane first met -- let's call her "Vicki" -- the troubled child who has leveled this heinous accusation against Shane. Within 15 minutes after meeting him on the streets of Burlington Vermont on a sunny spring day in 2005, Vickie was asking him if she could call him "daddy". We knew then that there was something "not ok" with little Vicki but chalked it up to a crush and thought no more of it. I wish I had a time machine. I'd zip back to that day in 2005 and tell Shane, "Run, Shane, run!" And make a mental note, gentleman: It's probably not safe to talk to ANY little girls, even if their mother is standing right there and you're in the middle of a busy street full of witnesses! BEWARE! The cops are so good at leading these poor young people into such labyrinths and webs of untruths, half-truths and out-and-out untruths that you just better hope you're luckier than Shane Casey. It could be you featured like this one day.

    During the timeframe Vickie has outlined, Shane first starting have the horrible agonizing MS attacks. I spent hours trying to massage the electrical impulses running up and down his tortured hands. The pain was so excrutiating that he could barely get out of bed. There were times when he couldn't even walk. Or swallow. Or breathe. He's nearly died several times since then. He walked with the aid of a cane. I was there. I was his lover. Believe me, he was not thinking about sex. No. Shane was dying and dying slowly and agonizingly. Why haven't the investigators talked to his doctor yet? And I know firsthand that they haven't. I called over there and the entire office, including the doc, were completely shocked about his arrest. If the doc had been interviewed, he at least would've known something was afoot. But he didn't. What that little girl doesn't know and what the investigators refuse to go find out is that Shane Casey WAS PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE OF THE CRIMES HE'S ACCUSED OF -- if not totally and entirely incapable as a person, which he is.

    But I realize people don't come to this website to hear that someone who has been accused of something so sensational and tittalating as orgies with little defenseless girls might actually be a real live, decent, hard-working, gentle, caregiving, completely wholesome beautiful human being. Why didn't I stay with Shane? Not because I didn't love him. I love him to this day. I left mostly because he was too dedicated to his work and so all we ever did 24 hours a day was work with the two 20 year-old mentally handicapped young men we had taken into our home. If Shane was a pediaphile, wouldn't he have asked for little girls like Vickie to take care of instead? Believe me, no pediaphile could've taken liberties with those two -- they were big and strong and violent! No, Shane took in the worst of the worst -- the older strong violent types who were either going to end up in jail or mental institutions for the rest of their lives. We took them fishing, to the orthodontist, to community theater, etc. And every morning at 5 am whether there was 6 foot of snow on the ground or his MS was kicking his a** hard, Shane got up and got those young men to school and jobs. This is a hero, people. Shane's only mistake is that he got too close to a very troubled woman with a chaos complex following her around. I'm not saying that Stacey did or didn't do anything. I only know her from my conversations with Shane and only met her briefly a couple of times. I can tell you though that if you look to Shane's history before Stacey and then you look at the intervening year and half, it could just as easily have been any one of us this happened to. Shane is a victim here. Vickie, God bless her, is a twisted up little kid. There's all kinds of research out there about kids making this kind of stuff up for all kinds of different reasons. (go here for a layman's overview: http://www.allencowling.com/childlie.htm ) If you ask me (and isn't it a bit troubling to any of you that NO-ONE from the Special Crimes Unit is looking to speak to me when I was a firsthand witness at the time?!) my sense of it goes something like this: Shane and Stacey got pregnant. Stacey gave birth to their baby in March 2007. That's when Stacey sent Vickie away, stating to Shane, "It's just too much for me. I can't take care of both of them." Shane pleaded with Stacey not to throw Vickie away like that but Stacey is not, from what I've gathered, a very unselfish person. Vickie, cast aside by her mother, with a crush on her mother's boyfriend, a man who ends up getting her mother pregnant and when the baby's born Vickie is pushed out of the scenario -- well, I think Vickie snapped. Leading up to the final rejection from her mother, who knows what kind of hell Vickie experienced in her mother's alcoholic shizaphrenic world. Poor kid.

    Shane is as good a man as I've ever met. Sometimes, even though I'm married to someone else, I still have to wonder why more men aren't like him. Sure he's got his weaknesses and flaws, one being that he's stubbornly loyal (dammit Shane!) but NONE of them are any worse than yours and mine. I love Shane like a brother. And a year and half after I've gone off and married another man, Shane and I are still in touch. That's not usual and speaks volumes about the character of this man. Personally I thought he should've left Stacey right after she lost him the group home license. She called the authorities and told them that the boys were frightening her. She called other times and said that Shane was frightening her, making it seem like a domestic problem. (and after the State came and removed those young men from Shane's care, all Stacey said when he asked her why she did it was, "I told you Shane, all I want is for us to be alone in a one bedroom apartment together.") I was the girlfriend who started that group home with Shane. I lived in that environment for 3 yrs before Stacey came on the scene. I know the stress she was talking about and yes, at times it left you shaking. Some of the outbursts from those big strong tirading retarded boys were pretty violent. But Shane was a consumate professional at all times. By the time his MS took his physical strength from him, Shane had developed such a wonderful relationship with the boys that if they looked like they were going to have a violent outburst, he could just appeal to their love and respect and say, "Hey, John, you know you can take me out. I can't restrain you anymore. Please just try to calm down. You don't want to hurt me do you?" It was awesome. The boys would self-regulate and Shane's illness became a reason for them to find empathy in their hearts, which is one of the toughest thing to teach these hard-luck kids. He won their hearts, and their minds followed. God, what a great guy!

    On the other hand, it should be noted that Stacey is not only an active alcoholic (Shane thought she was in recovery when he first met her in the rooms), but a schizaphrenic with bipolar tendencies. She's on heavy psychotropic medication and she doesn't always stay on it. I would hope people would try to see how horrible little Vickie's life probably was with her very mentally ill mother. But that does not necessarily mean the woman was a degenerate. I just think we all need to stop judging people we know nothing about.

    This I can catagorically stake my life on though:

    SHANE CASEY IS 100% ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT!

    I was there -- were any of you?

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    Wow, an ex-girlfriend of an accused pedophile running to his defense and throwing accusations at his present girlfriend. Color me shocked.

    Investigators retrieved the girl's diary from storage and had corroborated many of the things she wrote and spoke of. "If you read the affidavit, you will read how she explains certain elements of the crime," Vermont State Police Detective Lance Burnham said. "She is very credible. We have no reason not to believe her. We were able to confirm certain dates that she spoke of."

    So excuse me if I believe the investigators over an obviously scorned girlfriend who still gets wet when she thinks about the one that got away.

    I was there -- were any of you?
    You were there the entire time Shane, the girl and the mother were alone together? Really? How sad for you.

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    OKAY, which one is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    The pain was so excrutiating that he could barely get out of bed. There were times when he couldn't even walk. Or swallow. Or breathe. He's nearly died several times since then. He walked with the aid of a cane.
    OR

    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    I left mostly because he was too dedicated to his work and so all we ever did 24 hours a day was work with the two 20 year-old mentally handicapped young men we had taken into our home.
    It can't be both. He would have lost his license because he was too ill to take of these men.

    If I am to believe ANY of what you say, he WAS able to have sex because he did have a baby with this little girls mother. So him being completely unable to have sexual realtions of any kind is a crock of shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    This I can catagorically stake my life on though:

    SHANE CASEY IS 100% ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT!
    Can we get that in writing and notarized?

    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    I was there -- were any of you?
    You were there? Seems he had moved on with his life. I doubt that he would have been sharing the fact that he was sexually molesting a young girl with some ex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    Vickie, cast aside by her mother, with a crush on her mother's boyfriend,
    So let's see. A child who is now eleven, who has diaries dating back at least four years that were found in storage (not in the child's possession) by police investigators detailing sexual acts she was forced to commit with various men, MADE THIS UP BECAUSE SHE HAD A CRUSH ON SHANE CASEY?

    Is Shane out on bail? Are you him? If you're not, you are a codependent ninny.

    Within 15 minutes after meeting him on the streets of Burlington Vermont on a sunny spring day in 2005, Vickie was asking him if she could call him "daddy". We knew then that there was something "not ok" with little Vicki but chalked it up to a crush and thought no more of it. I wish I had a time machine. I'd zip back to that day in 2005 and tell Shane, "Run, Shane, run!"
    If you had a time machine, you nitwit, you'd have known that unnatural attachment and attention-seeking on the part of a child is often a hallmark of previous sexual abuse. Again you use the word "crush", and again I think I'm gonna hurl.

    What that little girl doesn't know and what the investigators refuse to go find out is that Shane Casey WAS PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE OF THE CRIMES HE'S ACCUSED OF -- if not totally and entirely incapable as a person, which he is.
    But he wasn't physically incapable of impregnating Stacey in May or June of 2006? I'm a nurse. Furthermore, my husband has a lower motor neuron disease. I call shenanigans and bullshit. He's walking into the courtroom, isn't he? If the dude can walk, the dude can get off as a rule, and sometimes he can get off even if he can't walk. I've worked in neuro for too long to buy your timeline, ups and downs of MS notwithstanding. If he had bad days during that time frame, he also had good days, and you clearly were not part of the picture for all the time in question.

    And you don't know what the investigators have or haven't found out, because HIPAA law prevents doctors from discussing a patient or his records with you unless you have a durable medical power of attorney. So any doctor's office response to your phone call would be to tell you they didn't know anything about that. Then they wrote down everything you said and gave it to investigators, who don't need to talk to you when you're outlining your entire testimony on the internet. Duh.

    And don't get me started on how "great" he was with twenty year old men, who really have nothing at all in common with an eight year old girl either physically or emotionally. Some of the worst molesters in history have stellar public service records, even with children or the disabled. He was probably "great" with the victim too. Dennis Rader was a married father who maintained a normal outward appearance even to his wife for over twenty years, during which time he was moonlighting as the BTK killer. So again, just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it wasn't there.

    One other thing: did he leave you for Stacey? Cause it kinda sounds like he was cheating on you with her. Does your husband know you still have it bad for Shane?
    Yeah, I didn't think so.

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    Sounds to me like "TruthSpeaker" still has a thing for good ole' Shane. Could be that she helped him rape other little girls as his new woman did?

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    Shane's ex again

    First, let me clarify: I didn't say he couldn't have performed the sex act, I meant he was in so much agony at the time that he couldn't deal with much other than getting the guys to school/work and taking care of them when they were home.

    Also, I actually found my long-lost high school sweetheart, discovered we were still in love after all those years in between and got married. I literally got married a day after breaking up with Shane. Stacey was his rebound relationship. And within a month after I left, she was pregnant. No. I do NOT carry a flame for Shane. If anything, he pines for me. I tried to fall in love with him for those 4 years we were together but it never took. Finally, I moved on. But I didn't leave because he was a bad guy. I left because I found my life.

    Let me straighten out the person who mis-read what I wrote about the doctor. The doctor and his nurses acted shocked at the charges when I called over there to ask if his doctor would please contact the public defender handling the case to see if he could help. I knew that no-one there had any idea that Shane was under investigation by the way they responded on the phone. I didn't call to discuss Shane's medical condition. I called to appeal to a good man, the doc, to stand up and tell the courts the truth about just how incapacitated Shane was during the time "Vicki" says this happened. That in no way entailed the doctor having to discuss Shane's medical condition, which of course, we didn't.

    Another thing: In my posting I never eluded that the mother did anything. I was honest about not knowing much about her. I gave the things I do know about her in order to show you where I got my conclusions about Vickie's reaction to being sent away. Now, that said, I also won't sit here and say there's no way the Vickie didn't get hurt by someone, sometime. But certainly not by Shane.

    If you read some of the articles online, there's one that says the diary only indicated the initial "S" and that the investigators are assuming that stands for Shane. Another thing is, there is a chance that whatever mental illness has afflicted the mother, could be genetic and maybe the girl's had some really strong paranoid delusional hallucenations. I'm not trying to say that that's what happened, I'm just trying to point out that there could be a few more reasons why this little girl is saying these things about Shane.

    And has anyone else noticed that it seems kind of odd that Stacey has some kind of pipeline to all the pedophils in AA? Doesn't anyone think it's a strange scenario? I try to imagine how a woman asks THAT MANY MEN if they're into little girls without being busted by one of those men she asks turning her in? Are we to believe that EVERY SINGLE man that Stacey supposedly approached went along with her proposal to go home with her and rape her 5 - 9 year old daughter? That's 4 years and how many men and she never picked a good guy who ran to the cops and told them some lady offered him her little girl? That just isn't possible. It's just crap. Let me tell you -- Shane at least would've turned her in if she'd done that to him. I know you'd all rather have fun being nasty and horrible but that will never replace thinking these silly scenarios cops foist on us like we're stupid enough to believe them without thinking them through.

    So to the posters who think I'm jealous and trying to feed Stacey to the wolves: No. I just don't know her so I can't speak to her character. I don't wish her harm. I don't some of things she's brought into Shane's life. I wanted him to be happy after I left, not lose everything to stupid choices like sharing consequences with a lady who consistantly seems to be in trouble. Look, just so you can all feel a bit better. When I left Shane, I left the country to join my new husband in his country in Europe. I'm not nearby in VT waiting for Shane to be mine again. I just don't hate the guy, that's all. He's sweet and very good.

    Maybe some of my loyalty comes from the fact that Shane saved my life once -- literally. I guess I'll always be grateful to him for that. But he's not my soulmate. My soulmate's asleep in the next room. I just want justice and I want to help save my dear friend who once saved me.

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    Does my husband know about my friendship and ongoing relationship with Shane? Yes, of course he does. Shane is a good guy. Why wouldn't my husband be kind to him? In fact, when I told him about all this, his first reaction was that I needed to make sure that I tried my best to save him from injustice. As far as the investigators not needing to find me, that's kind of reverse thinking: Their investigation is over. They've charged him. If they were going to ask me or any of the many other people who would be able to give evidence to support Shane's innocence (I've called at least 5 ex-employees and people who were around back then and none of them were contacted by CUSI) they would have contacted us BEFORE they slapped the cuffs on him, not afterwards. Why can't you see how slanted that is. They only wanted to talk to Shane, Stacey and the little girl. I can't find ANYONE else whose been contacted. Not even his doctor.

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    First you posted this tidbit,
    Shane Defender... "What that little girl doesn't know and what the investigators refuse to go find out is that Shane Casey WAS PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE OF THE CRIMES HE'S ACCUSED OF -- if not totally and entirely incapable as a person, which he is."
    When you say "physically incapable" that indicates that he's unable to do what he's accused of, which is having sex with a child. So I took this as he was unable to have sex. Then you write in this post....

    Shane Defender... "First, let me clarify: I didn't say he couldn't have performed the sex act, I meant he was in so much agony at the time that he couldn't deal with much other than getting the guys to school/work and taking care of them when they were home."
    Now come on, you believe he wasn't able to have sex with this child because he was "physically incapable" of these acts....but he was capable of getting these guys to work and taking care of them. One moment you make this guy sound like a helpless invalid, and then in another it's as if the super hero can do things wondrous things for these boys, even in all this horrid pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hippiepoet View Post
    Now come on, you believe he wasn't able to have sex with this child because he was "physically incapable" of these acts....but he was capable of getting these guys to work and taking care of them. One moment you make this guy sound like a helpless invalid, and then in another it's as if the super hero can do things wondrous things for these boys, even in all this horrid pain.
    I know, right? Because it takes tons of effort and excruciating work to lie back and get blown, which as nearly as I can tell from the police statements was pretty much what was happening. "Performing sex acts on" someone is copspeak for oral sex or handjobs, so it's not like Casey was doing heavy lifting. Even guys in the hospital with chronic severe pain and terminal illnesses can sit there and get blown or rub one out. I've walked in on enough of that to know.

    So... yeah. Not buying it. I appreciate that Truthspeak is buying it, and I'm sorry for her, because when he's convicted she's gonna have some harsh reality. I'd suggest she attend the trial and view the evidence in person - and even then, I'm not sure her denial is fixable.

    I will say this: I think it's likely that this whole sick scenario was the mom's idea, since she'd been using her child as man bait for several years before Casey came onto the scene. That does not excuse Casey - if anything, his background as a caregiver put him under legal mandate to report suspected abuse or neglect. Which just makes his participation in this child's abuse all the more reprehensible. Instead of getting a child out of a horrible situation, he took advantage of her, and he enjoyed it enough that it apparently happened a number of times.

    What next, the David Spears "he walked in on raping the kid, so he felt the need to assist by dropping his pants and joining in" defense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    As far as the investigators not needing to find me, that's kind of reverse thinking: Their investigation is over. They've charged him. If they were going to ask me or any of the many other people who would be able to give evidence to support Shane's innocence (I've called at least 5 ex-employees and people who were around back then and none of them were contacted by CUSI) they would have contacted us BEFORE they slapped the cuffs on him, not afterwards. Why can't you see how slanted that is. They only wanted to talk to Shane, Stacey and the little girl. I can't find ANYONE else whose been contacted. Not even his doctor.
    Ummm.. okay. Once again, his doctor is not legally allowed to tell you if he's been contacted. He cannot do it. HIPAA laws mean that he would have to lie to you. But frankly, if you're calling his office flipping out about a child sex abuse charge, he probably wants to lie to you and is happy to do so just to make you shut up and go away.

    Your husband wants you to be this guy's defense attorney? Because from a legal standpoint, you're not helping. Everything you're writing could come into play if you're called as a witness, and your credibility's going to be jacked because you obviously have a strong emotional attachment to the accused and a strong jealousy issue with the child. The prosecution would eat you alive on the stand, so posting here is not making you a good advocate for Casey's defense.

    Basically, you're saying that the investigators should not rely on the physical and other evidence they uncovered during their investigation, but rather should call his friends to do the defense's job. Do you really think Shane's doctor is going to have a record of which days Shane was physically or emotionally capable of getting a hard-on? Any neurologist will get on that stand and say "it depends on the day and on the stimulus" for an MS patient. Your boy's doc included.

    The defense can call witnesses to offer alibis for the dates listed in the child's diary, and character witnesses to talk about how great he and the mom are.. but you don't have any idea of the evidence it takes even to charge someone with sexual abuse. I do. They would never charge him on the child's word alone, or even the mother's if she's not credible. There is other evidence that they have that will be presented at trial - they're not going to release that evidence to the media. I can assure you that law enforcement would not put this poor little girl through a trial unless they were damned sure they could get a conviction.

    Honestly? It's probably video or photos or something he wrote to the child, or physical evidence. Child molesters love to have records. The fact that Casey has been charged and the mom has been charged but none of the other men allegedly involved have yet been charged means that they have evidence against Casey that they don't have against the other guys. Did you know that they can do DNA analysis on strains of herpes and other venereal diseases to see where they originated? Yep. So if the child has a disease, they can test the men accused to see who gave it to her.

    You don't have to like it, but after the trial, you come back and read and see if i'm right.

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    Shane's ex again

    If you've ever had chronic pain, like a toothache or a migraine, you know that severe ongoing pain kills the libido. That's what I'm saying was going on for Shane at the time this is all supposed to have taken place. I know what was going on when Shane got Stacey pregnant too -- rebound! He was/is devastated that I just left him like that. Stacey had been chasing him -- yes, I knew about it and actually hoped she was his soulmate, because I knew I wasn't -- so I wasn't jealous and in some ways almost encouraged him to give her a chance. He still wanted us to try to make it -- Mr. Loyal To A Fault -- so she was just some lady he knew and would see now and then at AA. Shane was pretty terrified to lose me. He was really sick with the MS and felt vulnerable. As part of trying to get me to stay, he did try to approach me sexually during that time but his pain was just too overwhelming and he had a hard time "following through". His self-image was also really effected -- the weight loss and loss of muscle mass was incredibly demoralizing for him. Psychologically, he was so depressed about withering away -- he had been a strapping 185 lbs. body builder when I first met him. He just had way too much on his mind dealing with all the devastating changes his body was going through on top of the ever-present pain in his limbs and stomach that wanting sex became an afterthought. And I'm not bragging but, let's just say when I was in my teens and twenties, I modeled professionally. I'm not hard on the eyes. Plus, I understand that pedophiles usually have trouble having "normal" sex with same-aged women, preferring their young victims. Well, before the MS kicked-in, Shane was incredibly normal, ok? And a man doesn't just turn into a pedophile in his mid-thirties after having a normal sex life prior to that. Pedophile's are pedophiles as a sexual orientation and he would have shown tendencies and I definitely would have noticed.

    My own young daughter lived in the same house with him for a year before she turned 18 and moved out to go live in Burlington to be close to her college. My daughter is an extroverted, well-spoken person who is active in things like Amnesty International and let me tell you, if ANY man ever tried to touch her when she was young -- she would have screamed bloody murder!! At the age of 7 or 8, she actually marched into the principal's office at school, demanded they get me on the phone and told me that their male substitute teacher that day was making some of the other little girls cry because he was too touchy-feelie with them. So, I know she would have told me, or I would've noticed, or she would at least tell me now. Believe me, I had to give Vickie enough benefit of the doubt to ask when Shane was arrested. It was a tough question to ask her, but she was appalled that had and exclaimed, "Absolutely not, Mom!" My daughter thinks highly enough of Shane that, even though he is no longer in her life, she went to one of his hearings last Tuesday to let him know that we are behind him. She knew that if she showed up and he saw her, he'd feel supported. That's the OTHER young girl that was around -- and very accessible down the hall -- who happens to be drop-dead gorgeous, and he never even gave her the creeps let alone tried anything depraved. Oh yea, actually I remember that there was this 32 year-old man interested in my daughter when she was still living with Shane and me. He showed up at the house in his truck one day and waited for her to come out, while me and my daughter argued that he was too old for her, even if she was 18 at the time and could make her own choices. While my daughter and I were nose-to-nose in the house, Shane stepped outside and told the guy he was way too old to be bothering such a young girl, and he better get the hell out of there. That's the real Shane, the one you all refuse to allow to be the truth here.

    We also had a little boy about 3 or 4 living with us for about 9 months at one point. His father was a single parent and he worked for us and lived at our house. I saw Shane with this little guy and he was not only NOT depraved around him, he acted just like you would expect a normal person would.

    And yes, I found it pretty unbelievable too at the time that he was able to work through so much of his pain. We ended up hiring live-in help but the reality was/is Shane is not only not a monster, he is actually pretty amazing! His efforts to keep going with those young men was truly incredible and a testament of his good character and decency, and not the inconsistency you all are trying to make it out to be.

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    A thank you

    Oh and ImpQueen: Maybe it was a misguided idea, but I thought if I came here and posted what I want to say to the courts and authorities, I'd be able to get some perspective in order to fine tune my statements, as in, editing out my personal impressions and only sticking to the facts. I knew you guys would be tough on me. So will the prosecutor and cops. I don't want to walk around deluded or uninformed about how to handle my information. I appreciate the scathing, harsh remarks because they are toughening me up a bit so I can be more solid for Shane. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    Oh and ImpQueen: Maybe it was a misguided idea, but I thought if I came here and posted what I want to say to the courts and authorities, I'd be able to get some perspective in order to fine tune my statements, as in, editing out my personal impressions and only sticking to the facts. I knew you guys would be tough on me. So will the prosecutor and cops. I don't want to walk around deluded or uninformed about how to handle my information. I appreciate the scathing, harsh remarks because they are toughening me up a bit so I can be more solid for Shane. Thanks.
    Hey, always happy to lend a hand to those in need.

    Keep in mind that anything Shane told you is inadmissable as hearsay on the stand, so most of your arguments won't fly. Given your obvious emotional instability, even the defense is unlikely to call you, but just in case, that will save your judge the time of striking everything you say.

    Also, keep in mind that your writings here can be admissible - I doubt seriously if Morbid would contest their use in court, so your emotional state will definitely come into play. Your idea that you are personally pivotal to Shane Casey's defense smacks of borderline personality disorder, among other things. You, m'dear, have issues. Have you considered Codependents Anonymous or professional help?

    What if he did it? What if he really, really did it? Would you just be wishing that little girl had kept her mouth shut and andured the abuse so your beloved wouldn't get in trouble? Don't tell me it hasn't crossed your mind. What if he really raped that little girl? If he didn't, he'll get off for insufficient evidence. What if he did?

    I appreciate your loyalty to your man, but do the world a favor and don't have more children. You are one of those women who at some point will pick the penis over your child, and who will be very very wrong in your choice.
    Last edited by impqueen; January 10th, 2008 at 08:06 AM. Reason: because i really wasn't finished playing with her, after all. but now i am.

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    blah blah blah, blah blah blah, what a great guy, your points? what points? not addressing those... he liked sex with adults, not attracted to twenty year old men or teenage girls or little boys, I'm pretty hot and he liked me, oh my hero.
    Is that what all this boils down to? He had his dick in you a hundred times and he liked it, so he couldn't have done this thing because he found you attractive?

    Look up "opportunistic pedophile". Learn what it is, learn what that means.

    Many, many married men are pedophiles who manage and even enjoy sex with their wives and girlfriends. Many pedophiles are caregivers or ministers who are wonderful with their charges and enact their desires only with the right stimulation, when the right opportunity presents itself. Of course, then they say the child came onto them. Again with Dennis Rader, the BTK killer - he fathered children who he never abused, but he abused the children he killed. Your arguments suck.

    Pedophiles do not find men in their late teens or twenties attractive. They are able to be normal and even nurturing to people outside their specific desire range. Sixteen or seventeen year old girls are nice and lovely, but if his primary relationship was with you and your daughter was outside his turn-on range, she was in no danger. Pedos who prefer little girls don't want mouthy teenagers, little boys, or adult men. They can and will manage relationships with adult women, particularly if those women are very loyal, compliant, and willing to take his word over all other evidence.

    Kind of like you.

    You haven't addressed the evidence against him, or what happens if you find out he really did do this.
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    Wow, an ex-girlfriend of an accused pedophile running to his defense and throwing accusations at his present girlfriend. Color me shocked.

    Investigators retrieved the girl's diary from storage and had corroborated many of the things she wrote and spoke of. "If you read the affidavit, you will read how she explains certain elements of the crime," Vermont State Police Detective Lance Burnham said. "She is very credible. We have no reason not to believe her. We were able to confirm certain dates that she spoke of."

    So excuse me if I believe the investigators over an obviously scorned girlfriend who still gets wet when she thinks about the one that got away.



    You were there the entire time Shane, the girl and the mother were alone together? Really? How sad for you.
    OK, so you dont think he could have done this right, he was not phyically capable. But he could drive, smoke crack, drink, go on vacation, drive long distances, make a baby, etc., etc.,. You know sometimes its hard to believe that people are mentally not right and immoral and since you were sleeping with him, you cant believe that you lived with a monster. Well guess what I knew him too and I do know things about his past. I believe that Shane did these things and Stacey too. You should be sharing a cell with them for defending him and trying to make this child look like a love obessed woman. SHAME ON YOU!!! and I hope that there is a speacil place in Hell for Stacey, Shane and you if you participated in these evil acts. Your just as twisted and Sick as they are. DUMB BITCH!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    If you've ever had chronic pain, like a toothache or a migraine, you know that severe ongoing pain kills the libido. That's what I'm saying was going on for Shane at the time this is all supposed to have taken place. I know what was going on when Shane got Stacey pregnant too -- rebound! He was/is devastated that I just left him like that. Stacey had been chasing him -- yes, I knew about it and actually hoped she was his soulmate, because I knew I wasn't -- so I wasn't jealous and in some ways almost encouraged him to give her a chance. He still wanted us to try to make it -- Mr. Loyal To A Fault -- so she was just some lady he knew and would see now and then at AA. Shane was pretty terrified to lose me. He was really sick with the MS and felt vulnerable. As part of trying to get me to stay, he did try to approach me sexually during that time but his pain was just too overwhelming and he had a hard time "following through". His self-image was also really effected -- the weight loss and loss of muscle mass was incredibly demoralizing for him. Psychologically, he was so depressed about withering away -- he had been a strapping 185 lbs. body builder when I first met him. He just had way too much on his mind dealing with all the devastating changes his body was going through on top of the ever-present pain in his limbs and stomach that wanting sex became an afterthought. And I'm not bragging but, let's just say when I was in my teens and twenties, I modeled professionally. I'm not hard on the eyes. Plus, I understand that pedophiles usually have trouble having "normal" sex with same-aged women, preferring their young victims. Well, before the MS kicked-in, Shane was incredibly normal, ok? And a man doesn't just turn into a pedophile in his mid-thirties after having a normal sex life prior to that. Pedophile's are pedophiles as a sexual orientation and he would have shown tendencies and I definitely would have noticed.

    My own young daughter lived in the same house with him for a year before she turned 18 and moved out to go live in Burlington to be close to her college. My daughter is an extroverted, well-spoken person who is active in things like Amnesty International and let me tell you, if ANY man ever tried to touch her when she was young -- she would have screamed bloody murder!! At the age of 7 or 8, she actually marched into the principal's office at school, demanded they get me on the phone and told me that their male substitute teacher that day was making some of the other little girls cry because he was too touchy-feelie with them. So, I know she would have told me, or I would've noticed, or she would at least tell me now. Believe me, I had to give Vickie enough benefit of the doubt to ask when Shane was arrested. It was a tough question to ask her, but she was appalled that had and exclaimed, "Absolutely not, Mom!" My daughter thinks highly enough of Shane that, even though he is no longer in her life, she went to one of his hearings last Tuesday to let him know that we are behind him. She knew that if she showed up and he saw her, he'd feel supported. That's the OTHER young girl that was around -- and very accessible down the hall -- who happens to be drop-dead gorgeous, and he never even gave her the creeps let alone tried anything depraved. Oh yea, actually I remember that there was this 32 year-old man interested in my daughter when she was still living with Shane and me. He showed up at the house in his truck one day and waited for her to come out, while me and my daughter argued that he was too old for her, even if she was 18 at the time and could make her own choices. While my daughter and I were nose-to-nose in the house, Shane stepped outside and told the guy he was way too old to be bothering such a young girl, and he better get the hell out of there. That's the real Shane, the one you all refuse to allow to be the truth here.

    We also had a little boy about 3 or 4 living with us for about 9 months at one point. His father was a single parent and he worked for us and lived at our house. I saw Shane with this little guy and he was not only NOT depraved around him, he acted just like you would expect a normal person would.

    And yes, I found it pretty unbelievable too at the time that he was able to work through so much of his pain. We ended up hiring live-in help but the reality was/is Shane is not only not a monster, he is actually pretty amazing! His efforts to keep going with those young men was truly incredible and a testament of his good character and decency, and not the inconsistency you all are trying to make it out to be.
    You know its sooooooooooo sad that you would defend this person. He was in such pain with MS, yeah RIGHT. But he managed to drive to Cape Cod for a romantic getaway with his current wife (whos kid he molested) get her pregnant, drive long hours, do drugs, drink, etc., etc., Lady you might benefit from some professional help yourself. You probally wouldnt even believe it if they showed you the evidence. Your a Sick, Sick, Bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    In the title of this thread, the author states in part that Shane Casey is sick. Well, as a matter of fact, Shane was diagnosed with advanced Multiple Sclerosis right around the time that this troubled little girl says Shane was abusing her and I have some good idea why she eventually decided to destroy Shane's life with her fabrications about him.

    I was there when Shane first met -- let's call her "Vicki" -- the troubled child who has leveled this heinous accusation against Shane. Within 15 minutes after meeting him on the streets of Burlington Vermont on a sunny spring day in 2005, Vickie was asking him if she could call him "daddy". We knew then that there was something "not ok" with little Vicki but chalked it up to a crush and thought no more of it.
    How dare you accuse this little girl of having a crush on that ugly, old, cripple, sick bastard! Something is seriously wrong with you! If he was so sick why did you leave him in his time of need? You are probably the reason why he turned into this monster and now you feel guilty you are trying to come in here and make him look as if he could NEVER do something like this. You say your daughter at this age would run and tell somebody, well every child is not like your daughter, some children have no one to steer them in the right direction, to talk to them and let them know what to do if something like this should happen. "Vicki" is the victim here not Shane, just face it, you are not all that, you make it as if this man was on the rebound, he should've just jumped off a building it would have made things better. It wasn't that "Vicki" got pushed out the picture, her father was not allowed to see her, gee I wonder why? Because they were doing sick shit to her and if it wasn't for her father to get her back through the courts, she probably would've been molested more and then killed and buried like most of these poor missing children around the world. Why don't you think of that before you open your fat mouth about a child lying just because you think yours would never lie and the man that was soooooo in love with you would never do a thing like this but yet you leave this AA member with two retarded kids for another man who is ok with your ex-lover being a fuckin child molester. Bitch you need some help too or counseling because no one in their right mind would put your dumb ass on the witness stand you just want to be in the spotlight when it has nothing to do with you. You left him, so leave his ass to rot in hell where his sick ass belongs with Stacey, and if it wasn't for "Vicki" to come forward, who knows what they would have done with THEIR OWN child, "Vicki" is a hero in my book, no one heard her cry then but we hear it now and she just saved her half baby brother/sister from these sick mutha fucka's! In a way, I do hope they call you up to the witness stand, because I'll be there waiting to beat yo dumb ass down! Pet Peeve: Dumb People!

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    If you've ever had chronic pain, like a toothache or a migraine, you know that severe ongoing pain kills the libido.
    You are becoming a chronic pain in MY ASS!!!! BITCH PUHLEESE!!!!! Go tend to your new husband, but you may want to take a second look, he could be a masked murderer, hey batting 2 for 2! Dumb Bitch!

    Get over yourself, why would they call you to the witness stand because you were his lover and you knew him so well? Oh and Shane took care of retarded guys? Who's to say he wasn't doing them too? Hell you probably couldn't understand what they were saying they were probably crying for help. He didn't care if the code said to report shit like that, he was in it for the money. He met Stacey in AA they were both doing drugs, drinking and who has a right mind when all this shit is in your system? They were both using "Vicki" to get their drugs and of course no body is going to go to the police you dumb ass bitch, because they probably did their work ahead of time before they even brought "Vicki" in the picture! I swear leave it up to the evidence, the judge, the jury and the police and go tend to your family you fuckin has been dumb bitch!!!!!:D

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    My last word on the subject...in this venue

    My unwavering belief in and steadfast loyalty to my dear friend Shane Casey does not impugn my evidence of his innocence nor does it discredit me as a witness. All your un-evolved methods to try to make me tuck my tail and run from his defense -- name-calling, foundless snide allusions that I was implicit in the alleged abuse of this child and your pedestrian, armchair psychiatric diagnosis of me, based purely on the outrage seemingly elicited by my resolute statement that Shane Casey, a man none of you know, is a falsely accused and absolutely innocent man (as are up to 60% of those accused of molestation; do your homework) -- do not prove anything about anyone but the careless, callous individuals who are ridiculous enough to write them. None of your ugliness will sway me from fighting to prove that this man is only guilty of staying loyal to the troubled mother of his child.

    Attempted character assassination, you will find, is tantamount to [U]successful character suicide[U] and having no firsthand knowledge of anything surrounding this case makes each and every one of you who post here self-admitted gossip mongers. Like bullies who grew too tall to legitimately hang-out at the playground pushing the other more vulnerable kids around, Shane's just an easy target for you. You've chosen to believe the worst and avoided benefit of the doubt because it's more fun, more entertaining, and why go on the internet if it's not entertaining, right? How low can you go? Pretty low, it seems. When will you all decide to grow up and stop using the misfortunes of others as fodder for your wicked games? Stupid, childish brutes.

    Are you all really that bored? Well, then do something meaningful with your shallow, cruel lives and learn to serve love above all things FIRST. You may actually do the world some real good and, in the end, grow souls someday. For now, I have no more time for troglodytes. I have to go save my friend from the likes of you. I leave you to the kind of society you are designing which in my estimation doesn't look much different from Salem Massachusetts, 1692. Thank God I don't live in the US anymore. And it's people like you who make me ashamed to call myself an American over here. Believe me, the rest of the world has taken notice. Good job. Thanks for wrecking our once wonderful country.

    I'm sure something out there loves you no matter what you do. You better pray I'm right about that. Because I'd hate to think that you might one day receive what you wished on another, a man you never knew. Shame on you all.

    Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    My unwavering belief in and steadfast loyalty to my dear friend Shane Casey does not impugn my evidence of his innocence nor does it discredit me as a witness. All your un-evolved methods to try to make me tuck my tail and run from his defense -- name-calling, foundless snide allusions that I was implicit in the alleged abuse of this child and your pedestrian, armchair psychiatric diagnosis of me, based purely on the outrage seemingly elicited by my resolute statement that Shane Casey, a man none of you know, is a falsely accused and absolutely innocent man (as are up to 60% of those accused of molestation; do your homework) -- do not prove anything about anyone but the careless, callous individuals who are ridiculous enough to write them. None of your ugliness will sway me from fighting to prove that this man is only guilty of staying loyal to the troubled mother of his child.

    Attempted character assassination, you will find, is tantamount to [U]successful character suicide[U] and having no firsthand knowledge of anything surrounding this case makes each and every one of you who post here self-admitted gossip mongers. Like bullies who grew too tall to legitimately hang-out at the playground pushing the other more vulnerable kids around, Shane's just an easy target for you. You've chosen to believe the worst and avoided benefit of the doubt because it's more fun, more entertaining, and why go on the internet if it's not entertaining, right? How low can you go? Pretty low, it seems. When will you all decide to grow up and stop using the misfortunes of others as fodder for your wicked games? Stupid, childish brutes.

    Are you all really that bored? Well, then do something meaningful with your shallow, cruel lives and learn to serve love above all things FIRST. You may actually do the world some real good and, in the end, grow souls someday. For now, I have no more time for troglodytes. I have to go save my friend from the likes of you. I leave you to the kind of society you are designing which in my estimation doesn't look much different from Salem Massachusetts, 1692. Thank God I don't live in the US anymore. And it's people like you who make me ashamed to call myself an American over here. Believe me, the rest of the world has taken notice. Good job. Thanks for wrecking our once wonderful country.

    I'm sure something out there loves you no matter what you do. You better pray I'm right about that. Because I'd hate to think that you might one day receive what you wished on another, a man you never knew. Shame on you all.

    Peace.
    I was just curious, did you look up all those big words you used, or did someone else write this for you. You Miss are a strange one. You continue to defend a child molester and say "Shame on you all". What the fuck?
    I laughed myself silly with the ending of your most profound letter....."Believe me, the rest of the world has taken notice. Good job. Thanks for wrecking our once wonderful country." Sister, this country was way fucked up before this goddamn shit happened. You think that this shit, that "WE" wrecked the country. OMFG You are one hell of a funny lady. Please dust the sand out from between your damn ears. Try really hard to get a couple two or three of those brain synapses to fire. You're starting to freak me out.
    Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    Are you all really that bored?
    Are you? You are the one that took the time out of your day to come register on this site to expose yourself as a mentally handicapped moron. And CONTINUE to do so. Is your life with your husband so bland and boring that you have to come to a forum where no one gives a fuck about you, and type out page long bullshit? You are a very pathetic person.

    Thank God I don't live in the US anymore. And it's people like you who make me ashamed to call myself an American over here. Believe me, the rest of the world has taken notice. Good job. Thanks for wrecking our once wonderful country.
    In regards to this subject, the only thing that has helped ruin this great country are enabling, apologetic asswipes such as yourself. Back in the day, people like your pedophile lover would have already been taken care of and YOU and anyone else who attempted to defend him would have been taken care of as well.

    I'm sure something out there loves you no matter what you do. You better pray I'm right about that. Because I'd hate to think that you might one day receive what you wished on another, a man you never knew. Shame on you all.

    Peace.
    Fuck your Peace and shame you cretin. You are extremely creepy. And I will say this with all honesty. If I am ever locked up for fucking a child, I want everyone to hate me. In fact, I PRAY one of you would be kind enough to put a bullet through my goddamn brain. You would be doing me, and the rest of the world, a big, fat favor.

    I am not sure if you are a troll, being honest, mentally disturbed or just a combination of all of the above. But in any case, you give me the heebie-jeebies and I don't like you at all. Could you do me a favor? Stop posting and use your time more wisely...in your case, I would guess that would be writing letters to your pedophile friend, Shane, and coming up with more ways to explain how all of this is that whore girl's fault that she got fucked by him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    Shane Casey, a man none of you know, is a falsely accused and absolutely innocent man (as are up to 60% of those accused of molestation; do your homework)
    State the source of your statistics please.

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    Thank God I don't live in the US anymore.
    Yes, thank God, or whoever or whatever was responsible for you leaving.

    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    And it's people like you who make me ashamed to call myself an American over here.
    Well, then do us all a favor and don't tell anyone that you are an American "over there." I'd hate to think that someone out there got their opinion of what they think to be representative of an American from the likes of your pedophile loving ass.

    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    I'm sure something out there loves you no matter what you do. You better pray I'm right about that. Because I'd hate to think that you might one day receive what you wished on another, a man you never knew. Shame on you all.
    Blah blah blah...are you gone yet? Doubt it. You'll be here, lurking, wanting to see what we have to say. You are no different than any other dumbass that comes on here defending some perpetrator that has committed a heinous crime. The only difference between them and you is that you are much worse. You are defending a sick sick sexual deviant fuck and you BLAME the victim. And the victim is a child.

    But

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    I'm sure something out there loves you no matter what you do.
    Yeah, same to you. Dumbass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspeaker View Post
    My unwavering belief in and steadfast loyalty to my dear friend Shane Casey does not impugn my evidence of his innocence nor does it discredit me as a witness. All your un-evolved methods to try to make me tuck my tail and run from his defense -- name-calling, foundless snide allusions that I was implicit in the alleged abuse of this child and your pedestrian, armchair psychiatric diagnosis of me, based purely on the outrage seemingly elicited by my resolute statement that Shane Casey, a man none of you know, is a falsely accused and absolutely innocent man (as are up to 60% of those accused of molestation; do your homework) -- do not prove anything about anyone but the careless, callous individuals who are ridiculous enough to write them. None of your ugliness will sway me from fighting to prove that this man is only guilty of staying loyal to the troubled mother of his child.

    Attempted character assassination, you will find, is tantamount to [U]successful character suicide[U] and having no firsthand knowledge of anything surrounding this case makes each and every one of you who post here self-admitted gossip mongers. Like bullies who grew too tall to legitimately hang-out at the playground pushing the other more vulnerable kids around, Shane's just an easy target for you. You've chosen to believe the worst and avoided benefit of the doubt because it's more fun, more entertaining, and why go on the internet if it's not entertaining, right? How low can you go? Pretty low, it seems. When will you all decide to grow up and stop using the misfortunes of others as fodder for your wicked games? Stupid, childish brutes.

    Are you all really that bored? Well, then do something meaningful with your shallow, cruel lives and learn to serve love above all things FIRST. You may actually do the world some real good and, in the end, grow souls someday. For now, I have no more time for troglodytes. I have to go save my friend from the likes of you. I leave you to the kind of society you are designing which in my estimation doesn't look much different from Salem Massachusetts, 1692. Thank God I don't live in the US anymore. And it's people like you who make me ashamed to call myself an American over here. Believe me, the rest of the world has taken notice. Good job. Thanks for wrecking our once wonderful country.

    I'm sure something out there loves you no matter what you do. You better pray I'm right about that. Because I'd hate to think that you might one day receive what you wished on another, a man you never knew. Shame on you all.

    Peace.
    Ok,so we are bored, ummmmmmm.......who started posting first,I dont remember defending a child molester, oh yeah, that was you. You must have a very sad and boring life, because you seem to have plenty of time to write bullshit and check to see if we respond to your crap. Ok so one more time here goes, I am ashamed to admit it but I knew Shane growing up and have seen him twice in 10years, and guess what if you lived with him then you know he is a drug addict. Oh poor Shane stricken with MS in the prime of his life. Boo hoo, stupid bitch, he is a sick sick person, and there is no excuse for his actions. He might have been molested himself, but if that was the case then why would you ever subject a child to the same pain you suffered. Bravo to VICKI, she is a HERO, for finally having the courage to come forward with her story, thus saving countless lives in turn. Who knows how many children Stacey and Shane have molested, for every 1 that comes forward, how many dont. Do your research, chump. I hope I do not have to reply again to your ignorance, but I am sure I will because I can not let a pedophile defending freak try to rally support for Stacey and Shane. Why dont you come back to the USA, lady?????? Hmmmmm, afraid that Vicki might come forward and point you out as a willfull participant??? I wonder. I think I will forward your postings to the VERMONT police department, so they can track you down and see what your level of involvement was in this case. So PISS OFF, FUCK OFF, YOU WANKER, hope the meaning does not lose its self in translation. :beurk:

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    LMAO, How the fuck did I miss this? Its sad to think there are so many dumb bitches and fuckers as delussional as this one about how their loved ones are one kind of other of deviants... sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dop View Post
    LMAO, How the fuck did I miss this? Its sad to think there are so many dumb bitches and fuckers as delussional as this one about how their loved ones are one kind of other of deviants... sick.
    It probably explains part of how these people feel "okay" with their actions in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dop View Post
    LMAO, How the fuck did I miss this? Its sad to think there are so many dumb bitches and fuckers as delussional as this one about how their loved ones are one kind of other of deviants... sick.

    Yeah, I missed out too! This shit is way too funny to be missin' out on!

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    My unwavering belief in and steadfast loyalty to my dear friend Shane Casey does not impugn my evidence of his innocence nor does it discredit me as a witness. All your un-evolved methods to try to make me tuck my tail and run from his defense -- name-calling, foundless snide allusions that I was implicit in the alleged abuse of this child and your pedestrian, armchair psychiatric diagnosis of me, based purely on the outrage seemingly elicited by my resolute statement that Shane Casey, a man none of you know, is a falsely accused and absolutely innocent man (as are up to 60% of those accused of molestation; do your homework) -- do not prove anything about anyone but the careless, callous individuals who are ridiculous enough to write them. None of your ugliness will sway me from fighting to prove that this man is only guilty of staying loyal to the troubled mother of his child.

    Attempted character assassination, you will find, is tantamount to [U]successful character suicide[U] and having no firsthand knowledge of anything surrounding this case makes each and every one of you who post here self-admitted gossip mongers. Like bullies who grew too tall to legitimately hang-out at the playground pushing the other more vulnerable kids around, Shane's just an easy target for you. You've chosen to believe the worst and avoided benefit of the doubt because it's more fun, more entertaining, and why go on the internet if it's not entertaining, right? How low can you go? Pretty low, it seems. When will you all decide to grow up and stop using the misfortunes of others as fodder for your wicked games? Stupid, childish brutes.

    Are you all really that bored? Well, then do something meaningful with your shallow, cruel lives and learn to serve love above all things FIRST. You may actually do the world some real good and, in the end, grow souls someday. For now, I have no more time for troglodytes. I have to go save my friend from the likes of you. I leave you to the kind of society you are designing which in my estimation doesn't look much different from Salem Massachusetts, 1692. Thank God I don't live in the US anymore. And it's people like you who make me ashamed to call myself an American over here. Believe me, the rest of the world has taken notice. Good job. Thanks for wrecking our once wonderful country.

    I'm sure something out there loves you no matter what you do. You better pray I'm right about that. Because I'd hate to think that you might one day receive what you wished on another, a man you never knew. Shame on you all.

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    Hey Truth Speaker here is some information for you. OK??? OK!!

    Child rape case points to larger issues

    By DAPHNE LARKIN Staff Writer

    A Vermont woman, Stacey Parnitzke, and her boyfriend, Shane Casey, were recently accused of methodically raping her daughter. The grisly scenarios included alcohol abuse and intravenous drugs, which were sometimes injected into the young girl. There were also reports the rapes were photographed.

    The girl said in court documents that she was 5 when the sexual abuse began. Her mother started bringing men home from her Alcoholics Anonymous meetings and forcing the girl to let them rape her. They were living in England at the time.

    The girl, now 11, went to live with her father in March 2006 and soon after disclosed the abuse to her father and authorities.

    This particularly horrible case of child sexual abuse has raised questions about how such abuses come to light. How do investigators know whether a child is telling the truth? If there is no physical evidence or witnesses to the crimes, how do they build a case that will stand up in court? And, finally, who would do such horrible things to a child?



    A challenge to prosecute

    There were 259 cases of sexual assault against children reported in Vermont in 2006. In the first three quarters of 2007, 146 cases were reported, according to the Vermont Crime Information Center. These numbers do not include statutory rape or consensual sex between inappropriate parties.

    Child sex abuse cases are a challenge to prosecute because there is rarely any physical evidence.

    Most cases emerge only when a child is willing to disclose the abuse, which experts say happens in about 1 in 10 cases.

    And even when a child does tell his or her story, it is often dismissed as a lie.

    In the Parnitzke case, the girl started acting out, lying to her father and teachers at school. The father encouraged her to, "put it all out on the table."

    After she told him her story, the father contacted local authorities, and the girl was interviewed at a child advocacy center in California. When investigators learned some of the abuse occurred in Vermont, state authorities became involved.

    Vermont State Police Detective Lance Burnham, who works at the Chittenden Unit for Special Investigations, is conducting the probe in Vermont.

    Partnizke and her daughter moved to Vermont in 2004. The mother met Casey in 2006, and the rapes began after he began spending time in their Burlington apartment, according to police records. The girl told police she thought Casey was a nice person because he would watch TV with her until he started raping her.

    One piece of critical evidence to support the child's story was a diary she kept while living in Vermont. In it she kept track of days when her mother's boyfriend, Shane Casey, raped her, marking the page with an "S" for Shane. Police tracked down the diary in Parnitzke's storage. The girl told police she thought the number of rapes was 15.

    "This was an extremely difficult case to investigate because of the allegations that were made," said Burnham. "It's definitely on a different playing field than a lot of the cases we investigate, but this is why we're here."



    Grooming the victim

    Random attacks on children are rare; experts say most child sex abuse cases are perpetrated by someone the child knows. Typically, a family member or family friend develops a relationship with the child that precedes the abuse.

    "Perpetrators generally really groom their victims, so they start out trying to get time alone, they give compliments, gifts, then the inappropriate conduct comes," said Susan Taggart, executive director of Rutland's Child First Advocacy Center.

    "We're seeing that now with the computer," she added. "It starts out with benign conversation, then sex vocabulary, then sharing photos, then trying to meet with the victim. Sometimes the relationship is so built-in, like with parents or stepparents, so it's confusing to kids; it's a lot of manipulation."

    Vermont State Police Sgt. Michael Henry, who spent three years working at the Chittenden Unit for Special Investigations and is assigned to the Bureau of Criminal Investigations, said he had a case where the family went into hiding because they were so afraid of the father. Consequently, the sexual abuse against the child wasn't reported to authorities for years.

    Parnitzke allegedly groomed her daughter for sexual abuse by making her watch a pornographic video she told her was a "Disney movie," and then forcing her to act out what she saw.

    Parnitzke also allegedly sexually abused the girl on numerous occasions when they were alone and then told her, "I love you."

    The little girl said she told her mother she loved her, too.

    But neighbors who often had the girl over to play with their daughter told investigators she generally seemed "carefree" until her mother came over and was offered a beer. Then the girl would run and hide. Those same neighbors told investigators they later learned that Parnitzke had had sex with their then-15-year-old son.

    The effects of sexual abuse on children can often be elusive or non-existent. There is rarely any physical evidence, unless the abuse is reported within 24 to 72 hours, and there are rarely witnesses. The child is at the mercy of the abuser.

    "You have a true definition of a victim when it's a child," said Burnham.



    In the child's best interest

    In Vermont the full range of agencies involved in these cases — from law enforcement to doctors and nurses — are specially trained to deal with child victims of sexual abuse.

    Child Advocacy Centers were created about 20 years ago to provide a system for dealing with these cases as succinctly and efficiently as possible in order to protect the victim.

    They have child-friendly rooms where the victim's interview is recorded on audio and video for evidence for potential use in court. The centers are designed to bring together experts, which generally include representatives from law enforcement and the Department for Children and Families so that the child only has to disclose the abuse once.

    Child advocates say that the act of detailing the story can be as traumatic and humiliating as the abuse itself was to a child.

    "I think the good thing about that (Parnitzke) case is that when (the child) was ready she did disclose that abuse; the father did believe her; she was taken to a Child Advocacy Center in California and authorities were contacted in Vermont," said Taggart, a child advocate.

    "That's how we want to see investigations happen; it's collaborative, people are working together, no one piece of the puzzle stands on its own."

    In other cases, mandated reporters, such as therapists, teachers, nurses and myriad others, pass on information gained through professional contact with a victim, which might lead to an interview at a center.

    "And they are difficult cases to prosecute for the same reasons: There's rarely any evidence; rarely a witness, and the best interest of the child has to be considered. (We have to ask) is it in the child's best interest to prosecute?" Taggart said.

    Advocacy centers also coordinate counseling for victims and their non-offending parents and work to prepare the child for the possibility of going to court.



    Profile of abusers

    People who are sexually aroused by the thoughts of having sex with children are called "true primary pedophiles," according to Saul Schoenberg, director of Resolutions Programs that treat sex offenders in several counties in Vermont.

    A person with anti-social behavior typically has a rap sheet, whereas a primary pedophile has no other criminal record. And although there is no cure for pedophilia — the arousal may never go away — true pedophiles who are not psychotic are more amenable to treatment, because they feel remorse.

    In the Resolutions Programs, offenders have to talk about what drives them to offend, admit sexual fantasies and develop plans to avoid tempting situations.

    "If they do the program, they can be safe in the community," Schoenberg said. "They have to have very clear boundaries, report about sexual thoughts, talk about it … it's a very difficult program. Offenders have to make plans for doing things (like shopping), and have to demonstrate skills for being safe."

    Psychopaths — people who cross boundaries without remorse or shame — are rare.

    Most sex offenders against children are people who are reacting to circumstances.

    "It's not their primary arousal; it may be reactive arousal," Schoenberg said. "They may have been sexually abused themselves, they do get aroused by children, but they're not a primary pedophile."

    Treatment for sex offenders is designed to reduce the risk of re-offending, and treatment providers use an index to determine level of risk.

    Parents who sexually abuse their children present a paradox to the corrections system because they appear to be a low-risk for re-offending and yet the damage they have done to the child is great, Schoenberg said.

    "The level of trauma that is caused by fathers or mothers in these children is greater, because it's a violation of not only the body but of the parental bond," Schoenberg said. "Fundamental trust is violated, so children who are abused by their parents, just because it's low risk doesn't mean it's low trauma."

    Child sex abuse cases happen in families across the socioeconomic divide. There are reports that say a child living in poverty is more likely to be sexually abused, but others point out that statistics only track cases processed through law enforcement and state social services, excluding instances where a family has the resources to address the issue through private counseling.

    Child sex abuse is a crime that is nearly impossible to track. Statistics belie its prevalence.

    Training of mandatory reporters, education of safe boundaries and healthy decisions, and strong advocates for child victims of sexual abuse all work in conjunction to facilitate reporting of abuse.

    One law enforcement officer who has worked on these cases had this piece of advice: "As soon as people find out about the abuse to make the report as soon as possible because that gives us the best chance for prosecution," said Henry.





    Victim services

    Vermont spent more than $162,000 on victim services through the Vermont Center for Crime Victim Services in 2007. Last year the state spent $145,000.

    "This figure does include crimes that were committed that our program has applications for since the beginning of the program, so it could be that we're paying on older cases," said Carol Morgan, the compensation program manager for VCCV. "Sometimes when a child of sex abuse reaches puberty more issues come out."

    The money was spent on crime-related losses and services such as counseling; mileage to and from counseling appointments; medical appointments; criminal court proceedings; lost wages for a parent to attend court or to take the child to counseling or medical appointments; if a child is prescribed medication as a result of the abuse, it covers reimbursement of crime-related meds; possible relocation if there are extenuating circumstances; crime scene clean-up and safety measures such as lock replacements.

    Funding recipients are referred either through law enforcement or the victim's advocate at offices of state's attorneys, who help victims fill out the application paperwork. The organization pays out to victims of crimes where probable cause was found by law enforcement; payment is not contingent upon a conviction in the case.

    The limit of money paid out to victims is $10,000 per case.

    The Vermont Center for Crime Victim Services, which has been operating since 1990, receives funding from the special funds of the state budget; payout funds get matched by the federal government at 60 percent, and $18.75 of a $26 surcharge on misdemeanors and court fines also goes into the victim's fund.

    The organization, which also will pay for supportive counseling for family members who are supporting victims, served 76 child sex abuse cases in fiscal year 2006, and had 84 new cases in fiscal year 2007.

    "The mission of the program is to strive to support victims of crimes and find gaps in services so we can meet the needs of victims," Morgan said.





    This information was sent to me from Taggart at the Child First Advocacy Center in Rutland:

    Warning Signs of Possible Sexual Abuse

    Sexually abused children rarely talk about their abuse. Infants and toddlers can't talk, and older children keep silent for many reasons. Adults can help children by recognizing signs of possible sexual abuse. These signs suggest sexual abuse. If you notice one or two of these signs and have concerns, call the Child First Advocacy Center: 747.0200 or DCF: 786.5817. Please remember, some sexually abused children do not exhibit any signs of abuse .

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    February 2 - Stacey Parnitzke pleaded no contest to driving under the influence Friday.

    Parnitzke, who is jailed in lieu of $25,000 bail at Dale Correctional Facility on charges of aggravated sexual assault against her daughter, was transported from the jail Friday and appeared in court shackled, wearing jeans and a sweatshirt.

    Parnitzke was ordered to pay a fine for the DUI conviction. The fine amount was the maximum amount for a first DUI, $750, which with surcharges came out to be just over $1,000. In light of the circumstances, Vermont District Court Judge Patricia Zimmerman gave Parnitzke two years to pay the court.

    On Sept. 2, 2007, police responded to a single-vehicle accident on Route 2 in East Montpelier near Country Campers. Police found Parnitzke, who had lost control of her 1995 Dodge Caravan, to have a blood alcohol content of .274 percent and a half-pint of Bacardi rum in her purse.

    Casey faced the same charge as Parnitzke and is jailed in lieu of $25,000 at the Chittenden Correctional Facility in South Burlington.

    Investigators said the investigation into the sexual assault case continues and more charges may be brought against the couple.

    Parnitzke and Casey reportedly have a baby son together.

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