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    The prosecutor is bat shit crazy.
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    Elizabeth Vargas will report from Italy, where a verdict is expected in the trial of American college student Amanda Knox who is accused of murdering her British roommate Meredith Kercher in 2007, just six weeks after arriving to study abroad in the quaint, medieval town of Perugia, Italy. Knox is on trial with her former Italian boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito. The two claim they were together at his apartment the night of the murder. A third man, Rudy Guede, has already been convicted and sentenced to 30 years. “20/20” and Elizabeth Vargas have been following the case since the arrest, and has aired exclusive interviews with Knox’s family, as well as obtained unprecedented access to both the prosecution and defense. The report airs on “20/20,” FRIDAY, DECEMBER 4 (10:00 – 11:00 p.m. ET) on the ABC Television Network.

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    BREAKING NEWS: Amanda Knox verdict to be announced about 6 p.m. EST, Italian court officials say.

    PERUGIA, Italy - Italian court officials said a verdict will be announced Friday evening in the trial of American student Amanda Knox, who is charged with murdering her British roommate.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34271238...d_news-europe/

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    She's cute.
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    Armies of pestilence; and they shall strike
    Your children yet unborn and unbegot,
    That lift your vassal hands against my head
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    FOUND GUILTY.

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    This is a miscarriage of justice! Amanda is too cute to be guilty! But then again...some serious Italian women's prison lesbian sex is a distinct possibility now.
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    I knew it was a bad omen when her parents bought her a ticket home.

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    I REALLY don't think she did this.
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    I don't think she did either. One, I think she was coerced into admitting guilt. Then, the fingerprints they say are all over the murder weapon and the areas in the home that concluded she was involved...ummm, they lived together, her fingerprints are going to be everywhere. I don't know how, maybe they do things differently in the court of law over there, but just the fact that they say she did it cause her fingerprints were on the weapon and she lived there leads me to believe it's possible she didn't do it.
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    I don't even think the knife they are claiming is the murder weapon is actually the murder weapon. She should have left when she had that window of opportunity right at the beginning. The pros is a nutter. He thinks there is a whole gang load of Satanists in Italy and that Amanda was one of them. It would be laughable if it wasn't so goddamn scary.
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    She was found guilty and given 26 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptik View Post
    I REALLY don't think she did this.
    im not sure what to make of it, she seems very crazy...smiling laughing giggling at the boyfriend....if she didnt do it i definitely think she was an accessory

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    Quote Originally Posted by proudmom View Post
    She was found guilty and given 26 years
    she'll be out at 47.....

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    I agree with the jury "guilty"

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    I was watching the news the day the verdict came back, and a friend of the family was saying that an Italian legal consult of some sort was saying that rarely do people win during the first round, that, more commonly, cases are overturned on appeal. I don't know the legitimacy of that statement, but it was also reported that, even if the conviction was overturned at the earliest possible opportunity, the soonest she would get out is 6 years from now.

    The Italian justice system is a joke. Following this case has really made me thankful for what we've got in the U.S., as far from flawless as it may be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athena View Post
    I was watching the news the day the verdict came back, and a friend of the family was saying that an Italian legal consult of some sort was saying that rarely do people win during the first round, that, more commonly, cases are overturned on appeal. I don't know the legitimacy of that statement, but it was also reported that, even if the conviction was overturned at the earliest possible opportunity, the soonest she would get out is 6 years from now.

    The Italian justice system is a joke. Following this case has really made me thankful for what we've got in the US, as far from flawless as it may be.
    So is the American justice system, I take it you've read some of the stuff on DD.
    If she loses the 1st appeal it could take over 5 years on the 2nd, however without actually knowing their legal system, it would be best to at least understand the system before calling it a joke. Feeling like we're better is part of the ugly American thing.
    Many seem to always disagree with how counties handle their affairs if they don't meet our so-called standards of dealing with situations, whatever those are.
    Many countries feel the US is barbaric because of the death penalty and feel if someone is given death why do they get to hang around and appeal for 20 years.
    Funny thought just hit me, the US has been around for a few years while these other counties have always existed compared to the US, Americans sometimes remind me of the nouveau rich
    LOL
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    Way to be offensive and condescending to Americans on a personal level. Just a note, but all countries evolve and the US didn't just magically appear. This continent has been around just as long as any of the others. Yes, the government is newer than a lot of others, but who gives a fuck? You're implying that because a government has been through more cycles, it's somehow inherently better, which is utter garbage.

    I get that it's popular to hate Americans on a social level, but this is the first place in a long time I've felt like someone was spewing hatred of Americans just for the fact that they are Americans, rather than because of their political decisions and whatnot. I know I didn't phrase that well, but I'm a little disheartened and angry right now, please forgive me.

    That smug little "nouveau riche" statement at the end was really the kicker for me. It's like an additional layer of elitism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koochie View Post
    she'll be out at 47.....
    oh good, pete can date her then. *jotting the year in my planner*
    i found a dead cat on the side of the road so i took it home and i put honey on it and i ate it is that bad do do do do

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    Quote Originally Posted by everhopeful View Post
    Way to be offensive and condescending to Americans on a personal level. Just a note, but all countries evolve and the US didn't just magically appear. This continent has been around just as long as any of the others. Yes, the government is newer than a lot of others, but who gives a fuck? You're implying that because a government has been through more cycles, it's somehow inherently better, which is utter garbage.

    I get that it's popular to hate Americans on a social level, but this is the first place in a long time I've felt like someone was spewing hatred of Americans just for the fact that they are Americans, rather than because of their political decisions and whatnot. I know I didn't phrase that well, but I'm a little disheartened and angry right now, please forgive me.

    That smug little "nouveau riche" statement at the end was really the kicker for me. It's like an additional layer of elitism.
    If the truth hurts it's still the truth, most Americans do act like "nouveau rich" especially when abroad and that's why they are known as ugly Americans world wide, we've been called ugly americans for a long time
    The BBC doesn't have a problem with the verdict or the Italian justice system
    But the American's sure do, she's one of ours and how dare anyone judge one of ours, with their wortless flawed system
    it's uppity, it's crass, it's ugly, it's nouveau rich
    It's not their integrity, it's their realization or pretense of world equality, they might stab you in the back when no ones looking
    but they don't punch you in the nose in front of the world, maybe a bit more sophisticated in how they handle situations in general, kind of like Getty oil compared to yahoo
    Knox says she’s wasn’t there
    Knox says Congolese 37-year-old Diya Lumumba did it
    Knox says she was in the kitchen when it happened
    Knox says the Italian cops beat the confection out of her
    Knox says stay tuned to the appeal if the Sahigy don’t get their own, reality show she will
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    Thumbs down

    No, what you're doing is crass and ugly. I don't care enough about you to go read through my sources regarding the crime, but a lot of the early media focused on the way the investigation was mishandled.

    My problem with her presence in Italy's prison isn't because I think she should be in an American prison, it's because I don't think she should be in prison. Is that clear enough? Stop making wild assumptions that don't have any bearing on my beliefs and then spew them as generalizations. Just stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by everhopeful View Post
    No, what you're doing is crass and ugly. I don't care enough about you to go read through my sources regarding the crime, but a lot of the early media focused on the way the investigation was mishandled.

    My problem with her presence in Italy's prison isn't because I think she should be in an American prison, it's because I don't think she should be in prison. Is that clear enough? Stop making wild assumptions that don't have any bearing on my beliefs and then spew them as generalizations. Just stop.
    American media
    like I said
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    when the story constantly changes, the accused isn't telling the truth
    The bitch even tried to put the blame on an innocent man
    FUCK HER!!
    Knox says she’s wasn’t there
    Knox says Congolese 37-year-old Diya Lumumba did it
    Knox says she was in the kitchen when it happened
    Knox says the Italian cops beat the confection out of her
    Last edited by biteme; December 7th, 2009 at 07:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biteme View Post
    If she loses the 1st appeal it could take over 5 years on the 2nd, however without actually knowing their legal system, it would be best to at least understand the system before calling it a joke. Feeling like we're better is part of the ugly American thing.
    It's not that "we're" better - we're all humans and prone to making mistakes. But I do believe the U.S. system is set up better. The prosecuting attorney is being investigated for abuse of office related to another case, there are widespread reports of evidence mishandling (and they don't have regulations as strict as those in the U.S. relating to the handling of evidence), they don't sequester the jury down there, so jurors can read all the biased publicity, talk about it with random people, etc... and these are system flaws that are not conducive to justice.

    It's not an "us" vs. "them" thing. I'm simply critical of anything that impedes objective justice, no matter where it is. And the Italian justice system has some significant flaws to that end. These are not opinions, they're observations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athena View Post
    It's not that "we're" better - we're all humans and prone to making mistakes. But I do believe the U.S. system is set up better. The prosecuting attorney is being investigated for abuse of office related to another case, there are widespread reports of evidence mishandling (and they don't have regulations as strict as those in the U.S. relating to the handling of evidence), they don't sequester the jury down there, so jurors can read all the biased publicity, talk about it with random people, etc... and these are system flaws that are not conducive to justice.

    It's not an "us" vs. "them" thing. I'm simply critical of anything that impedes objective justice, no matter where it is. And the Italian justice system has some significant flaws to that end. These are not opinions, they're observations.
    Hi love, was wondering when you'd logic me back
    I realize all systems are flawed and ours is one of the best
    But I feel they got this one right, she changed her story to many times

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    Quote Originally Posted by biteme View Post
    Hi love, was wondering when you'd logic me back
    I realize all systems are flawed and ours is one of the best
    But I feel they got this one right, she changed her story to many times
    That can't be the only thing a case hinges on, though, especially when there are language barriers and questionable interrogations. The prosecution wasn't even able to provide a motive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athena View Post
    That can't be the only thing a case hinges on, though, especially when there are language barriers and questionable interrogations. The prosecution wasn't even able to provide a motive.
    Only according to the Seattle times and her lawyer
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    Ms Knox, 21, poised and relaxed, entered the court in Perugia smiling broadly, dressed casually in a grey hooded sweatshirt and striped Tshirt. During breaks she chatted to her lawyers, Carlo della Vedova and Luciano Ghirga, and to her female interpreter.

    The bespectacled Mr Sollecito, 24, wearing a lime-green sweater and cream polo neck and with his flowing hair cut short, occasionally glanced along the row at Ms Knox sitting a few feet away. His former girlfriend kept her head turned away from him.


    OK, was this article on the social page? And what's the deal with the clothing descriptions? Is it fashion week in Perugia?

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    OK, was this article on the social page? And what's the deal with the clothing descriptions? Is it fashion week in Perugia?
    i thought it was an ad for Old Navy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by this is going badly View Post
    Ms Knox, 21, poised and relaxed, entered the court in Perugia smiling broadly, dressed casually in a grey hooded sweatshirt and striped Tshirt. During breaks she chatted to her lawyers, Carlo della Vedova and Luciano Ghirga, and to her female interpreter.

    The bespectacled Mr Sollecito, 24, wearing a lime-green sweater and cream polo neck and with his flowing hair cut short, occasionally glanced along the row at Ms Knox sitting a few feet away. His former girlfriend kept her head turned away from him.


    OK, was this article on the social page? And what's the deal with the clothing descriptions? Is it fashion week in Perugia?
    In Italy it's always fashion week and Giorgio Armani rules.

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    Doing cart wheels in the police station was fucking stupid , she made herself look guilty . The knife with Amanda's fingerprints and Meredith's dna was actually found in the boyfriend's home . So how did it get there ? I would be more inclined to believe her story if the knife was indeed found in the home she and Meredith shared .
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    Quote Originally Posted by everhopeful View Post
    No, what you're doing is crass and ugly. I don't care enough about you to go read through my sources regarding the crime, but a lot of the early media focused on the way the investigation was mishandled.

    My problem with her presence in Italy's prison isn't because I think she should be in an American prison, it's because I don't think she should be in prison. Is that clear enough? Stop making wild assumptions that don't have any bearing on my beliefs and then spew them as generalizations. Just stop.
    Early "American" media , of course it's biased . Now if it had occurred in Britain , she'd be home by now and the British government would be apologising for the inconvenience . Because Britain is run by little bitches who like to bend over for the US .
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