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    The Oakland County Child Killer

    During a 13-month period, four children were abducted and murdered with their bodies left in various locations within the county. The children were each held from four to 19 days before being killed. Their deaths triggered a murder investigation which at the time was the largest in U.S. history.[1] The murders are still unsolved.
    Fear and near-mass hysteria swept southeastern Michigan, as young people were inundated with information on "stranger danger", and parents clogged streets around schools dropping off and picking up their children. The few who did walk walked in groups and under the watchful eyes of parents in "safe houses", where children could go if they felt uncomfortable. Children even avoided using a playground directly behind the Birmingham police station.[2] One incident in Livonia involved a tow-truck driver who assaulted a man he had seen asking two boys on the street for directions. He turned out to be an Ohio tire salesman who had gotten lost with no knowledge of the slayings.[3] The Detroit News offered a $100,000 reward for the killer's apprehension.[2]
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    Ah yes. This is the murderer also known as the Babysitter, because he kept the children for a while and washed them shortly before dumping them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Abroad View Post
    Ah yes. This is the murderer also known as the Babysitter, because he kept the children for a while and washed them shortly before dumping them.


    Sick fuck. I hope he burns in Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPrincess View Post
    Sick fuck. I hope he burns in Hell.
    Apparently one of the mothers in her appeal to whoever was holding her son said she wanted him back so she could serve him his favorite meal of Kentucky Fried Chicken. When they found her son's corpse and autopsied him, they found fried chicken in his stomach......


    Talk about sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abroad View Post
    Apparently one of the mothers in her appeal to whoever was holding her son said she wanted him back so she could serve him his favorite meal of Kentucky Fried Chicken. When they found her son's corpse and autopsied him, they found fried chicken in his stomach......


    Talk about sick.

    Yeah, I remember that now.... We need a real life Dexter to wipe these people out.

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    This is sad. I like chicken too. I prefer Popeyes.

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    Big Story Around Here,New Evidence,More Victims?

    Defenders find new evidence in Oakland County Child Killer case
    Victims' families fight to have investigative documents made public
    DETROIT -
    The Local 4 Defenders have found never before seen evidence in the Oakland County Child Killer case.

    Investigators were told the files were destroyed, but the Defenders went digging. Someone saved a copy all these years just in case it might lead to the identity of the Oakland County Child Killer.

    The Defenders turned the documents over to the Oakland County and Wayne County prosecutors' offices, and to the Michigan State Police, which is in charge of the task force investigating the murders.
    You go up there, do a little homework and provide it to us. God bless you," said Barry King, whose son Timothy King was among the victims killed.

    The King family had never before seen dozens of the documents which detail facts and information that police and prosecutors never knew.

    Now, the documents are open for investigation for the first time. They include an investigator's notes from a sexual predator investigation in Montmorency County. It reads, "The Oakland County task force that was involved in the investigation of the kidnapping and homicide of five juveniles ... became involved in this matter." The document is dated Jan. 31, 1977. That was before Timothy King was abducted and killed.

    "It's disturbing that chunks of evidence are missing or haven't been looked at," said Chris King, Timothy King's brother.

    The King family had no idea that there was a task force before Tim's abduction and no idea that he might be the 6th victim. They were told for more than 30 years that there were only four victims: Mark Stebbins, Kristine Mehalic, Jill Robinson and Timothy King.

    "We just want to make sure police and the prosecutors have done their due diligence and have done their job," Chris King said. "We just want to make sure that police have all evidence, look at all the evidence and follow it where it leads."

    Sources say the task force is looking at the possibility of at least two more victims.

    The victims' families are suing law enforcement to release more documents. They want everything known about the Oakland County Child Killer made public, citing John Walsh of America's Most Wanted. Walsh did just that to find out who killed his son, Adam.

    "(Adam's) father, John Walsh, fought the judge to the end about making the records available to the public," Barry King said. "They finally made it available to the public, and two new witnesses show up, tying young Adam to the principle suspect."

    The King family and police are pouring through the new documents discovered by the Defenders. They are finding several new clues. They say the documents show known suspects have been changing their stories.

    Last summer, the Defenders reported that investigators from Wayne County took a road trip to northern Michigan. They were looking for physical evidence and criminal files involving two suspects in the case: Christopher Busch and James Vincent Gunnels. Gunnels told police he was abused by Busch at a family cottage in Montmorency County. However, when investigators arrived at the cottage, they found it had been torn down and the 35-year-old files were destroyed to make room for newer cases.

    A Local 4 viewer saw the Defenders' reports and called with a surprise: They had saved a copy of the files, just in case.

    Now, that viewer's gut instinct may help solve the case of Michigan's biggest unsolved serial murder mystery.
    [...]
    http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/i...8/-/index.html


    good video at link

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    Canadian law students revamping this cold case up
    College students investigate Oakland County Child Killer case
    University of Western Ontario students focus on cold cases
    DETROIT -
    These Canadian college students turn cold cases into open cases.

    They're work has even led to arrests. This year's class project is one that hits close to home for Metro Detroiters: The Oakland County Child Killer case.

    In 1976 and 1977, four Oakland County children were kidnapped, help captive for days and then killed and place along public streets in Metro Detroit. The children ranged between ages 10 and 12. They were meticulously bathed and their clothes were cleaned prior to being found.
    [..]
    The objective is really to use new media research techniques, to look into old files on cold cases," said Renee Willmon, of the University of Western Ontario's Cold Case Society.

    Now, there are fresh eyes digging into the 35-year-old mystery.

    "And hopefully provide some outside consultation and analysis to aid the investigation wherever possible," Willmon said.

    The students are trying to do what investigative units have failed to do up to this point: Solve the Oakland County Child Killer case.

    "There are 15 of us from different programs on campus who have an interest in investigation and forensic kind of work who are working on this case," said Willmon.
    http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/i...z/-/index.html

    video at links pretty good

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    Attorney says more victims possible in Oakland County Child Killer case
    (WXYZ) - [...]
    An attorney has called a press conference to announce alleged new victims that may be tied to the Oakland County Child Killer case.

    Four children were abducted and murdered between 1976 and 1977 and so far, their killer has never been caught.

    Attorney Paul Hughes announced a press conference for next Tuesday in which he plans to raise questions about how Oakland County prosecutor Jessica Cooper has handled the case.

    Hughes also suggests in his press release that as many as 11 additional victims may be tied to the serial killings, and is calling for an independent investigation by the Department of Justice.
    http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/local_n...#ixzz1sL50JXF2

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    New information released in Oakland County child killer case
    Photos of Oakland County Child Killer suspect's suicide scene released
    DETROIT -
    The families of the victims of the Oakland County Child Killer have released photographs of the 1978 suicide scene of a suspect in the case to the Local 4 Defenders.

    From February 1976 to March 1977, a serial killer abducted and held four children against their will for several days before killing them, then left their bodies throughout metro Detroit.

    The victims, all from homes in Oakland County, were 12-year-old Mark Stebbins, 12-year-old Jill Robinson, 10-year-old Kristine Mihelich and 11-year-old Timothy King.
    No one has ever been charged in the more than 30-year-old case.

    Christopher Busch, a convicted sex offender, was questioned in the case, but was released.

    He later committed suicide.
    However, the victims’ families have been vocal about their allegations of his responsibility.

    King’s family filed a lawsuit in order for police to turn over their information against Busch.

    VIEW:Inside Christopher Busch's home

    Chis King, Timothy King's brother, said he thinks Busch was involved because the photos show potential evidence linked to the cases.

    One photograph shows a drawing that was pinned on Busch’s wall, which closely resembles Stebbins.

    The photographs also show ropes that appear to have blood on them and shotgun shell.

    Robinson was killed by a shotgun blast.

    "Now we have hard evidence and we expect them to do their job," Chris King said.

    The Defenders have also learned that the Michigan State Police are requesting DNA from all living family member of the four victims to make sure all samples are current.
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    http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/i...g/-/index.html


    27 pics here
    http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/local_n...-suicide-scene
    I didnt see anything and they have blacked out alot of space in most photos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisper View Post
    New information released in Oakland County child killer case
    Photos of Oakland County Child Killer suspect's suicide scene released
    http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/i...g/-/index.html


    27 pics here
    http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/local_n...-suicide-scene
    I didnt see anything and they have blacked out alot of space in most photos

    Oh sweet baby Jesus.....I saw the picture they say looks like Mark Stebbins and when I looked for further information it said that when the killer had dressed the boy he put his jacket on and pulled up the hood before placing him next to the dumpster where he was found. The picture depicts a screaming child wearing a hooded jacket. He may have been the first, which may explain why Busch kept the drawing of him for so long. Like stated in the article above there may have been more prior to him.

    I almost wish I didn't read the details.....ugh. The articles here thus far have not been specific and I probably shouldn't have went looking for more.

    I haven't even clicked the links to the other victims and I am blown away by the story of Mark Stebbins. The police messed up, the killer possibly taunting the police and family the day of the funeral. Just aweful shit. Not to mention details on his death. Oye, I know I need to stop reading but can't help myself.

    Okay after reading more I feel the previous cases were unrelated. Two people are serving time for 2 of those previous deaths. Also the ages and area are all wrong. So is the MO. I don't know why people linked them to these murders but I highly doubt it.

    I just read the case of Jillian....my God she knew someone would shoot her some day to the point she had a severe anixety and fear of it. It broke my heart. Broke my heart how she probably didn't die right away even though being shot in the head. Then again the police dropped the ball and destroyed evidence....fuck man.


    Here are some things I found odd. Why did he only shoot the one victim? Did she tell him her fear and he used it against her? Secondly after reading all 4 stories he only sexually assulted the boys. The girls had no evidence of penetration though they do believe he had the girls perform oral (they found seman on Kristine though she had not been penetrated vaginally or anally) Just bizarre. Another thing I don't understand is why did he stop? Whoever the killer is seemed to enjoy taunting the police. Something must have spooked him. It's crazy.

    For those interested enough & haven't read it already I'm reading from this website.

    http://greatadthulhu.angelfire.com/page3.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by VAS1326 View Post
    Oh sweet baby Jesus.....I saw the picture they say looks like Mark Stebbins and when I looked for further information it said that when the killer had dressed the boy he put his jacket on and pulled up the hood before placing him next to the dumpster where he was found. The picture depicts a screaming child wearing a hooded jacket. He was the first, which may explain why Busch kept the drawing of him for so long.

    I almost wish I didn't read the details.....ugh. The articles here thus far have not been specific and I probably shouldn't have went looking for more.

    I haven't even clicked the links to the other victims and I am blown away by the story of Mark Stebbins. The police messed up, the killer possibly taunting the police and family the day of the funeral. Just aweful shit. Not to mention details on his death. Oye, I know I need to stop reading but can't help myself.

    For those interested enough & haven't read it already I'm reading from this website.

    http://greatadthulhu.angelfire.com/page3.html
    The whole thing is horrible but the ones that stand out to me is the one girl was shot in the face
    and the King family was on tv news begging for his return and said they would have his fave dinner of KFC when he came home
    and he was found a day or 2 later and autopsy showed he had just ate KFC before being killed
    The killers prob saw that on news

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    Marion King wrote that she hoped Timothy could come home soon so she could serve him his favorite meal, Kentucky Fried Chicken. In the late evening hours of March 22, 1977, two teenagers in a car spotted his body in a shallow ditch alongside Gill Road, about 300 feet south of Eight Mile Road in Livonia, just across the county line in Wayne County. His skateboard was placed next to his body. His clothing had been neatly pressed and washed. He had been suffocated and sexually assaulted with an object. The postmortem showed that Timothy had eaten fried chicken before he was slain.[2]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland...y_Child_Killer

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    Im not sure how close these roads were where they were found
    I have heard and driven on some (I think) but the one that sticks out is 8 Mile,I wonder if it was as bad back then as it is now and thats why they dropped him there to maybe try and make it look like someone from around there did it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisper View Post
    The whole thing is horrible but the ones that stand out to me is the one girl was shot in the face
    and the King family was on tv news begging for his return and said they would have his fave dinner of KFC when he came home
    and he was found a day or 2 later and autopsy showed he had just ate KFC before being killed
    The killers prob saw that on news
    Oh don't I know it. She must have told him about her fear and he used it against her. That or somehow he already knew about the fear. It broke my heart. Something in her inner concious knew she would die that way. How fucking horrible it came to pass. Her poor mother has to live knowing that the nightmare she assurred her daughter would never happen did in deed happen.

    The man obviously saw the news report and I believe he did feed him KFC to taunt the family & police. They also mentioned reports that he had a chicken bone in his pocket and/or a funeral card from another victim on him.

    This man taunted the police. With the first victim on the day of his funeral someone (presumed the killer) left Mark's funeral card in the exact spot the he was placed when they found him. He may have very well have been at the funeral since the mother didn't recognize everyone who attended. The 2nd victim was left within view of the police station and was killed in a personal manner that matched her worst fear. The 3rd victim was left on a street that had an eerily similar name as the pyschrist who was working with the police and often spoke publicly about the murders. He also left clear hand prints in the snow with her. With Tim he made his most outright stab at the family and police. There was no question he was taunting them.

    So why did he stop? I find that so weird. He had to have moved or been arrested. He seemed like he was having a good time toying with the police. He seemed to have no problems finding victims. It makes me shudder to think this guy could still be in the area.

    I wonder what will become of this and I wonder what the press conference will be about.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VAS1326 View Post
    Oh don't I know it. She must have told him about her fear and he used it against her. That or somehow he already knew about the fear. It broke my heart. Something in her inner concious knew she would die that way. How fucking horrible it came to pass. Her poor mother has to live knowing that the nightmare she assurred her daughter would never happen did in deed happen.

    The man obviously saw the news report and I believe he did feed him KFC to taunt the family & police. They also mentioned reports that he had a chicken bone in his pocket and/or a funeral card from another victim on him.

    This man taunted the police. With the first victim on the day of his funeral someone (presumed the killer) left Mark's funeral card in the exact spot the he was placed when they found him. He may have very well have been at the funeral since the mother didn't recognize everyone who attended. The 2nd victim was left within view of the police station and was killed in a personal manner that matched her worst fear. The 3rd victim was left on a street that had an eerily similar name as the pyschrist who was working with the police and often spoke publicly about the murders. He also left clear hand prints in the snow with her. With Tim he made his most outright stab at the family and police. There was no question he was taunting them.

    So why did he stop? I find that so weird. He had to have moved or been arrested. He seemed like he was having a good time toying with the police. He seemed to have no problems finding victims. It makes me shudder to think this guy could still be in the area.

    I wonder what will become of this and I wonder what the press conference will be about.
    Its stopped after the one guy committed suicide,he was being investigated by cops
    and his familys millionaires (Busche or Budweiser,some beer company)
    I have a complete file at home on my desk top,im at work on my desk and dont have them on this newer laptop
    they pretty much have all the proof and released alot just before xmas but its all on my other comp
    They are now searching his family cabin and did once before and found hairs and stuff and comic books etc
    but as soon as it turned to the guy he committed suicide and his family somehow managed to sway LE
    When Im home tomorrow after Im up Ill dig the recent files I have explaining the rich kid
    They say he had a accomplice though too and that guys alive and recently took his DNA
    Seen older cases solved with DNA and i think they are really alot closer to the end and settling it then they are telling us

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    Alot more will be released tomorrow including a name of someone they expect to be arrested for these murders according the news reports
    New evidence released in Oakland County Child Killer case
    Prosecutors say no evidence links Christopher Bush to Oakland County Child Killer
    OAKLAND COUNTY, Mich. -
    Prosecutors are opening new files about specific evidence and suspects in the Oakland County Child Killer case.

    Part of 6,000 pages of evidence in the case were made public under the Freedom of Information Act. Prosecutors are being allowed to speak out about specific evidence in the case.

    Top Oakland County prosecutors Jessica Cooper and Paul Walton have been openly discussing specific evidence in the murders of Mark Stebbins, Kristine Mihelich, Jill Robinson and Timothy King. The four children were held captive for days before being murdered in 1976 and 1977.
    They weren't bloody. They weren't dripping and there was no sign of blood," Cooper said.

    More than 30 years since the crimes, top prosecutors now are coming forward to put a stop to false claims and rumors about the case. Prosecutors say they have tracked down the scientist who analyzed the ropes found at the home of suspect Christopher Bush.

    "He conclusively told us that he was aware of these facts and that had there been any blood on that rope or ligature he would have sent it on to the evidence unit," said Walton.
    The prosecutors say the families of the victims and media outlets continuing to push Bush as the Oakland County Child Killer have misinterpreted public documents and have not seen the real evidence.

    "There isn't a piece of evidence that we can point to and say Mr. Bush killed Timothy King, Jill Robinson, Kristine Mihelich or Mark Stebbins," said Walton.
    [...]
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    Detroit lawyer files suit alleging cover-up in Oakland County Child Killer case
    WXYZ) - A Detroit attorney has filed a $100 million dollar lawsuit against the Oakland County Prosecutor, the Oakland County Sheriff and the Michigan State Police.

    He’s expected to hold a press conference tomorrow, where he’ll announce other potential victims of the child killer.

    The lawsuit alleges a conspiracy, cover-up, and misconduct by the prosecutor.

    The members of two of the victims’ families have led a very public battle for more information about who killed four innocent children in the 1970s. But those family members - who’ve been so public about their quest – say the announcement of this press conference took them by surprise and they don’t know what to expect.

    [..]

    It never goes away. It never dies. And anybody who says there’s any closure – there is no such thing,” said Kristine Mihelich’s stepfather, Tom Ascroft.

    Between 1976 and 1977, Kristine and 3 other children who lived along the Woodward Corridor were abducted, held for days, and then murdered.

    Despite the fact that secret grand juries in both Oakland and Wayne Counties have been hearing testimony about the killings – Detroit attorney Paul Hughes is calling a press conference. Hughes says he’s representing Debbie Jarvis, Kristine’s mother.

    But the other family members who have been actively pursuing answers in the case for years – including the King family, Ascroft, and Kristine’s sister Erica McAvoy -- say they knew nothing about the upcoming press conference.

    “We’re really saddened that something would happen like this, without us being notified,” Ascroft told 7 Action News Investigator Heather Catallo.

    Hughes tells 7 Action News that he plans to suggest that as many as 11 additional child serial killer victims could be connected to the four – and he’s suggesting a cover-up with-in law enforcement.

    Hughes also announced a website to solicit donations to fund his efforts.

    On the site, a donation of $1,500 will get you a copy of the report that will allegedly be submitted to the Department of Justice, or DOJ, once that report is finished.

    “When I saw it, when my daughter Erica saw it, and a few other people, we were upset. Because we weren’t asking for money, we don’t want money,” said Ascroft.

    “I lost my son, and I know what it means to lose a son. For somebody to say donate money to me, I can solve this crime – it pisses me off,” said Oakland County Executive Brooks Patterson. Patterson was the prosecutor during the child killings.

    “We were doing everything we could as these crimes became more expansive and went from 2 to 3 to 4. To suggest that somebody in that system would have had any reason to protect the killer and cover up legitimate evidence, that’s an outrage,” said Patterson.

    Hughes won’t say what evidence he has to connect the four children to additional victims, but says he will turn it over to the DOJ if they answer his call to investigate.

    But the DOJ is already involved – the FBI’s labs have been used to analyze evidence in this case, and FBI agents have helped the Task Force over the years.

    Extensive profiles of the victims of serial killers are already maintained the in FBI’s ViCAP system – a national law enforcement database that automatically looks for links between other potential victims.

    “In our experience, we have had all sorts of leads and claims that we investigate,” said Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper.

    Cooper can’t discuss any case that’s currently before the grand jury – but she did tell us she doesn’t know how someone who hasn’t been part of the investigation can cry foul unless he or she knows all the facts.

    “If somebody wants to write a book, somebody wants to become famous, somebody wants to make $1,500 a hit on whatever it is he’s selling in this press conference he’s calling - that’s not fair. It’s not fair to people who are legitimately looking and investigating and trying to find it – its definitively unfortunate to have family members exploited again and again,” said Cooper.

    The press conference is scheduled for Tuesday morning at 11:00 a.m. 7 Action News will be there, and we’ll bring you all of the latest information right here on WXYZ.com.
    http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/local_n...#ixzz1svLU0Uta

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