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    Willie Crain killed 7-year-old Amanda Brown (in 1998) is back in court again.

    Willie was back in court again this week, He has all kinds of nitpicking stuff to try and get his death sentence overturned. They keep shooting him down and he keep appealing stuff. He still claims he is innocent and will not reveal were the body is. The Tard is dieing of Colan cancer and the clock is ticking on his execution. Willie was a convicted child molester and crab fisherman who was sentenced to death for Amanda Brown slaying. Though no body was ever found.

    Eight years ago, Willie Crain abducted and killed 7-year-old . He appeared in court again Friday (apeal), but the sight brought no closure for Amanda's father.

    TAMPA - Roy Brown wanted Willie Seth Crain Jr. to die for killing his 7-year-old daughter Amanda in 1998. But he also wanted an answer.Ten, maybe 15, times Brown tried to write the letter. Only anger and insults spilled from his pen.

    Then, days ago, Brown got word that the death row inmate would return to court Friday. Brown couldn't sleep. He had to write. Mr. Crain, he began, choosing his words carefully with the help of a retired sheriff's deputy friend.

    Our innocent little girl placed her trust in you as a friend, and as a result of that trust, lost her life. ... Every day not knowing where she is, not having laid her to rest, it is torture for all of us, especially my family. If that is your goal, then it is working.

    On Sept. 11, 1998, Roy Brown's ex-wife awoke to find Amanda missing from her Seffner home. Crain, who had spent the night hours after meeting the mother and daughter, was gone too. Hillsborough sheriff's officials and volunteers eventually found drops of Amanda's blood on the convicted child molester's toilet and underwear. They didn't find Amanda.

    The mystery haunted Brown, 55. Seared in his memory was the way Crain had looked at Brown and his current wife after a judge announced the death sentence. "He grinned at me and Sylvia," Brown recalled this week, "and told me he wasn't going to die." In recent years, Brown has been a quiet fixture at the scenes of missing children.

    Last week, the Amanda Brown Foundation became an official nonprofit organization. Brown wants to give financial and emotional support to families of abducted children and educate parents about sexual predators.

    Still, Brown kept bottled inside the words he needed one man to hear. "I want Amanda," he said.

    For so long, he had worried about what might happen if he finished the letter. He knew name-calling and bitterness wouldn't achieve anything. He thought a rambling diatribe would dilute the effect.

    "I was told all through the court process just don't look at him, don't talk to him, don't show no emotions or nothing," Brown said. "You're just scared to death that if you say anything ... he'll get an appeal."

    Two years ago, the Florida Supreme Court upheld Crain's conviction and death sentence. The appellate process is in its early stages, to Brown's dismay.

    But Brown wondered this week if time might be his friend. Maybe Crain was ready to reveal Amanda's whereabouts.

    Brown decided he would give Crain, now 60, the letter at the hearing. Wednesday night, through tears, he started yet another draft. He added the last touches the next morning, then gave it to his wife to type on foundation letterhead.

    We can only pray to God that he helps us through each day and one day will enter into your life and guide you to do the right thing. Let us know where we can find Amanda. Let us bring her home where she belongs today. Sincerely, Roy Brown, Amanda's father

    Feeling "a relief and a half" about having finally written the letter, Brown carried it to court Friday morning - only to learn that he would not be permitted to hand it to Crain. ( note: The Warden heard about it and promised to give it to Willie)

    He could do nothing, except strain to control his anger at the sight of Crain and listen to perfunctory talk about appellate motions and Crain's relationship with his attorneys. Like others in the courtroom, Brown learned Crain has colon cancer.
    The hearing ended, and Brown still had the letter. But he had taken the first step toward peace.
    R.I.P. Amanda

    The Amanda Brown Foundation website
    http://www.amandabrownfoundation.org/

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    WILLIE SETH CRAIN JR

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    Willies Florida Sexual Offender page.
    http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...personId=56578
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    Willies Florida Inmate page.
    http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInma...onID=665942754
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    Sickening old fuck. I hope that he really suffers with his cancer. I hope he'll get horrible pain, infections, a perforated colon....a very long and lingering death.

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    That's a whole lotta ugly for one man to possess.

    Did I read that right that the mom had just met this POS hours earlier and already let him spend the night? You'd have to be some kinda desperate to take someone home who looks like that.....EWWWWWW

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    He was a crusty old sailer dude, He originally went to prison with convictions for 3 different sex crimes with a child on, 01/18/1985 to 08/30/1991. They happened in 1978, 1982 and 1983.

    I didn't remember how they met, only that he lived close to them and had been to prison from a previous sex with a child crimes. Mostly he is remembered because they convicted him with out a body and is one of the case's being mentioned when they couldn't find Caylee. There was a boatload of circumstantial evidence and no body. His previous crimes pretty much got him convicted. They did have DNA from Amanda , a drop found in his underwear and a few on the toilet in his house.

    The Luminol part was interesting, it reacts the same way to bleach that it does to blood and all it really proved was that bleach had been all over his bathroom floor. This was one of the biggies for him in his many appeals.

    Willies daughter introduced them the night before at a bar, they had dinner at Willies the next night and watch the Titanic at his house. Willie slipped mommy a mickey and did his dirty deed. I dont know that he ever ment to originally kill her only have sex with her. Something went wrong and he tried to cover it up.

    Willie Crain was introduced to Kathryn Hartman (Amanda's bio-mommy) by his daughter ( Willies daughter) on September 9, 1998, while at a bar in Hillsborough County. Crain and Hartman danced and talked for four hours that night and agreed to see each other again.
    On the afternoon of September 10, Crain went to visit Hartman where he met her 7-year-old daughter, Amanda Brown. Before leaving that afternoon, Crain accepted Hartman's invitation to return for dinner that evening.

    After dinner that night, the three went to Crain's home to watch movies. ( Amanda's favorite Titanic) Eventually, Hartman decided it was time to leave, and Crain drove Hartman and Amanda to their trailer. Around 2:15 a.m., Amanda went to sleep in Hartman's bed. Crain appeared intoxicated, so Hartman advised him to lie down to sober up while she went to bed. Within five minutes of Hartman going to bed, Crain entered the bedroom and lay down on the bed with Hartman and Amanda.

    Hartman awoke the next morning to find Crain gone and Amanda missing. Hartman called Crain on his cell phone, and he told her that he did not know where Amanda was and that he was loading his (Crab) boat at a boat landing. Other people at the boat ramp testified at trial that Crain carried what appeared to be a rolled-up item of clothing with him when he was launching his boat.

    Police later interviewed Crain, and he told police that he left Hartman's house around 1:30 a.m. He also told police that he accidentally spilled bleach in his bathroom and spent the early morning hours cleaning his bathroom. While searching Crain's trailer, a detective applied Luminol, a chemical that reacts with blood, to Crain's bathroom. The detective testified at trial that the floor, bathtub, and walls “lit up”. Detectives also found blood stains in the bathroom and on Crain's boxer shorts, both of which contained DNA consistent with a mixture of the DNA profiles of Crain and Brown. Despite an extensive, two-week search of Upper Tampa Bay, Brown's body was never found.

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    My thanks are gone again. I will catch those posts above when they return. What a horrible excuse for a human being. I hope the colon cancer gets him at the bitter end and he dies in unimaginable agony. Fucker deserves to rot away from the inside.
    I wouldn't give him the time of day, much less take him home for a one-nighter.

    **UGHHHH!**


    When are they going to stop letting these monsters out of prison to molest or worse again?

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    It is a vile thing that his ugly-rats face is the last face Amanda saw before dying.

    Sweet one I hope you found peace and eternal love.
    Report child Abuse 1-800-4-A-CHILD * Missing and Exploited 1-800-THE-LOST

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    Wille was a rat bastard and I want to see his ass fry for what he did, He pobly chopped her up for crab bait so there will never be a body found. They are still listing her as a missing child in the slim hope she will be found. Thats not going to happen and Willie will go to his death claiming his innocence.

    Hopefully his cancer will give him untold amounts of pain and suffering for his crime. He is on death row so his life pretty much sucks the big one. Guess thats the best we can hope for in this case or that he lives long enough to get executed for it.

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    They will never find that poor baby. I'm pretty sure Willie chopped her up and used her as crab bait. What a sick man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazzzz View Post
    Wille was a rat bastard and I want to see his ass fry for what he did, He pobly chopped her up for crab bait so there will never be a body found. They are still listing her as a missing child in the slim hope she will be found. Thats not going to happen and Willie will go to his death claiming his innocence.
    I reckon you are right about that. So very say that the parents will never have certainty or a chance to put her to rest.

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