School Pressured to Fire Lunch Lady, Former Porn Star

[Sister Iroz]

An elementary school cafeteria worker and playground monitor, who had an extensive career in the adult entertainment industry, is becoming a New Jersey school district's legal nightmare.

Some parents in Vineland, N.J., as well as the board of education president, want Louisa C. Tuck fired, but district officials were advised by their lawyers and those from the New Jersey School Board Association they have no legal grounds to terminate the 32-year-old from her $5,772-a-year part-time job as an aide in the lunchroom and playground, The Daily Journal reported.

"We have no real legal stance or legal right to do anything for two reasons — one, it's not illegal, and two, it's not on school time," Superintendent Charles Ottinger told the newspaper.

Tuck, who went by the name of Crystal Gunns when she starred in adult movies, performances and photos, told the newspaper it's been five years since she was involved in the adult entertainment industry. She now also works with children at the local YMCA.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,456345,00.html

I'm not going to judge her.

[queenpunkr]

I'm sure there are more important things this school should be looking into, if this woman isn't doing anything to jepordize the kids (i.e. telling them to check out her videos/photos/whatever). It's my opinion they should leave her alone it sounds like she is trying to do something good for kids. I mean really who wants to be a lunchlady?

[Rhoni]

Hmmm well the kids would never know she was a former porn star if the parent would shut up about it unless the kids are watching porn...Sometimes adults cause more drama than the thing they are saying is the problem does..

Take the Janet Jackson thing for instance..I didn't even really see it happen when it happened but believe me I saw it the other million times they replayed it..My point sometimes if you just shut up about something no one will notice, it will pass..Maybe she had a rough childhood and wants to give back to kids in some way..I say leave her alone..

Maybe the moms are jealous the lunch lady looks better...just a thought!!

[MichaelJCheaney]

I am going to presume that she is a good lunch lady/Playground monitor. And I commend her for doing something to help her local school district and the community.

If MORE parents were willing to take on thankless jobs like this everyones communities would be SO much better off.

That being said the blame for her situation lies squarely on the shoulders of......wait for it......The scum sucking bottom feeding pricks that we call lawyers........and all the pedophile school teachers both male AND Female who have caused these school districts/and or teachers unions enormous recourses, to defend themselves against the civil lawsuits that said pedophiles, have opened them to.

Which in turn has caused these districts and the lawyers to dig into the backgrounds of each and every individual who may come in contact with a student. Looking for any little sign that they may be a danger to kids.

And apparently being an ex porn star equals potential pedophile. Its a leap that I personally can't see but then again I was smart ENOUGH to NOT become a Lawyer!

I am waiting for the day when a potential pedophile is considered anyone WITH a PENIS or a teaching license. Or some combination thereof.

[blue_zombie]

I'm sure these parents have never done anything that they regret or are ashamed of. They just want what's best for their children, and surely having someone so interested in giving back to the community and trying to serve as a positive role model would be a bad thing.

Where the hell are these parents when their children are hanging out with the wrong crowd? Where are they when their daughters are dating 25 y/o men? What the fuck are these parents doing when these children become juvenile delinquents and start vandalizing property?

These will be the same parents who sat on their asses and did nothing when their children were getting into trouble.....but now that they have found out about this lady's past......they are going to crucify her.

[DarkPrincess]

I don't see why people have a problem with this. If she's not handing out DVDs of her work to the kiddies or filming a porno in the cafeteria, what's the issue?

[WryBread]

Crystal Gunns? That's not too interesting a name. I thought at first it read, "Crystal Gumms." And I mistyped it the first time as "Crystal Bums."

Who cares? Let her serve lunch.

[crickett]

I don't see why people have a problem with this. If she's not handing out DVDs of her work to the kiddies or filming a porno in the cafeteria, what's the issue?

WHOA...I can see it now "HOT lunch ladies doing it in the cafeteria"...action on the stove, on the table, in the freezer....
My son would want the DVD for Christmas

Seriously....she's probably one of the few employees NOT interested in pedo action...been there, done that....
It's the sweet quiet ones who like those overnight field trips that you have to worry about....

So give the lady a fucking break! It's not HER fault that your husband keeps going over to the school to have lunch with the kids....Get a fucking LIFE already!

[Harley_Tech]

I'm not going to judge her.

Ok, I will. She HAWT!! Not ImpQueen Hawt, but Hawt none the less. Edit:**** Please note that I posted this before I saw those gawd awful titties.**** Those things are just plain gross. *shakes head, fuckin fake titties spillin out all over the damn place...*

Ladies, if your tits have stretch marks from their own weight, see your local titty lopping off Dr.

I agree with Rhoni, the moms are jealous

R

[missuncommonsense]

Ok I'm going to say it so hate me if you want but I am soooo AGAINST this !
I have two young children (and no Im not a jealous mom ) and I would so be against the idea of an ex porn star at my kids school and even if she isnt a threat most people from the porn industry aren't reputable and what if she had fans *oddly enough* and they followed her to a school full of children, I just dont see anything good coming from this and as far as the kids are concerned don't they deserve better ? get rid of her, its 150% better to be safe than sorry. And what would be next ? are they going to hire prostitutes for school counsellors ?! and ex druggies for principals ??? Of course children are going to find out who their lunch lady was because of all the attention this lady is getting from parents and the media already. With that kind of background I agree she doesnt need to be working with children and if parents care so much about this than maybe they should step up to the plate and start helping out more so this wouldn't *and shouldn't* have happened to begin with.

[Maggie Mae]

Well of course the kids are going to find out, but that's not her fault--it's the parents'. They can't fire her. She didn't do anything illegal and she's not bad at her job. You're generalizing and stereotyping without knowing her or taking into account the good she does with children.

I have no problem with her, as long as she keeps her funbags tucked away and continues doing her job well and staying out of porn. Good for her for practically VOLUNTEERING--this is a shit job for no money.

[missuncommonsense]

Ok but still don't the children deserve better ? I don't believe that they should be letting just anybody work with children and whether or not she is or isn't in the adult industry, I still feel that she has no place and no right to be working at a school with children, if she really cared this much about children why didn't she do this BEFORE she decided to get into the adult industry. And you're right its not her fault, its the parents so hopefully more people will make an example out of this and do more so incidents like this wont happen again. And isn't up to the parents to decide who they want and don't want around THEIR children to begin with.

[Maggie Mae]

Better than what? Better than someone who does her job properly? Would they prefer someone who couldn't care less about the kids but has never been naked in front of a camera? All I'm saying is, there are much worse things for parents to worry about than an ex-porn star monitering the kids at lunch and recess. I don't really understand the upset here. Who hasn't done some stupid stuff in their lives? I've done plenty. However, I'm a nanny, and the stuff I've done in the past really doesn't affect how much I love the kids and the job I'm in now.

[Eagles Mom]

Ok but still don't the children deserve better ? I don't believe that they should be letting just anybody work with children and whether or not she is or isn't in the adult industry, I still feel that she has no place and no right to be working at a school with children, if she really cared this much about children why didn't she do this BEFORE she decided to get into the adult industry. And you're right its not her fault, its the parents so hopefully more people will make an example out of this and do more so incidents like this wont happen again. And isn't up to the parents to decide who they want and don't want around THEIR children to begin with.

Better than what? If she does a good job and is interested in the children, that's what they deserve. Not some closed-minded bigots!

[queenpunkr]

Ok but still don't the children deserve better ? I don't believe that they should be letting just anybody work with children and whether or not she is or isn't in the adult industry, I still feel that she has no place and no right to be working at a school with children, if she really cared this much about children why didn't she do this BEFORE she decided to get into the adult industry. And you're right its not her fault, its the parents so hopefully more people will make an example out of this and do more so incidents like this wont happen again. And isn't up to the parents to decide who they want and don't want around THEIR children to begin with.

I know I'm not the only one here who has read about countless cases of pedophiles working in schools...most of these are people with nothing "bad" in their backgrounds, the communities love them etc. etc. until it comes out they have been molesting the kids (countless quotes of "we never thought he/she would do something like this"). So what if she was a porn star big deal that shouldn't automatically disqualify her for working with kids.At least all her porn is consensual adult sex. As a "room parent" in a school in the "wealthy" district I know first hand most of the parents of these kids could give a shit less and never volunteer their precious time or get involved in the school(we had a total of 7 adult volunteers to put together an entire fall festival). So don't judge her by her past employment, judge her by the time she contributes to the communtiy...ok off my soapbox now.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Ok but still don't the children deserve better ? I don't believe that they should be letting just anybody work with children and whether or not she is or isn't in the adult industry, I still feel that she has no place and no right to be working at a school with children, if she really cared this much about children why didn't she do this BEFORE she decided to get into the adult industry. And you're right its not her fault, its the parents so hopefully more people will make an example out of this and do more so incidents like this wont happen again. And isn't up to the parents to decide who they want and don't want around THEIR children to begin with.

Wonder if they would have let me volunteer if they knew of my past? I used to drink and do drugs and ride bike where I had to show my tits off. I think I was kinda slutty (It was the 70's folks!!!). I used to date the principal's brother in my "wild days" and he was OK with me being around the kids.

I never touched a child in anger or lust... which is more than I can say for the guy who was the all-star quarterback "raised in a good family" high-school teacher "now in jail" I graduated with.

[penelopejo]

Makes no sense. I am assuming her big ole boobies are still there. Maybe they got curious and got her name and googled her, but still, has she hurt their children, no. Has she been trying to hook up with a sixth grader, no. I'm not getting why they would try to get her fired if she's done nothing wrong in the past or present except for the whole porn thingy.

On that note, I think the moms may be kinda sorta jealous of her boobies, I mean, they may look horrible nekkid, but they may look kinda nice all covered up. I'm just wondering why they wouldn't go and get her autograph instead of getting her fired. I mean, would you want instead, a 50 year old single male feeding your children and watching them run jump and play and being in contact with them? What's the difference?

[moonlilly1981]

She did not do anything illegal. So why judge her? What I want to know is how it came out that she was a porn star? It came out because someone saw her in a movie or what not. I wouldn't care if she was my kids lunch lady as long as she kept her chi chi's and cooter covered up. What she did in her past career is not my right to know as long as she didn't break the law.

[Death Bed]

She should work in a high school.

[Abroad]

Ok but still don't the children deserve better ?

Better than what exactly? I think they deserve better examples set by their parents, is what I think they deserve. Less judgement and more tolerance

I don't believe that they should be letting just anybody work with children and whether or not she is or isn't in the adult industry, I still feel that she has no place and no right to be working at a school with children,

I don't believe they should let just anybody work with children either; but if you don't care whether she is in the adult entertainment industry or not, then what do you have against her? As for rights.... I should think she has a right to not be unjustly terminated from a job that she applied for, got, and has by all accounts performed with no complaints until some prurient hypocrite decided to draw everybody's attention to her past career. I think it may be safely said that no kids were ever harmed in the production of those films.

if she really cared this much about children why didn't she do this BEFORE she decided to get into the adult industry.

Adult entertainment pays a lot better than lunch lady. Conversely, it also offers a much shorter career. Once she could no longer earn money in porn, she looked for something else to do, something unskilled and underpaid, I might add. Very few of us stay in the same business our entire lives. People mature. Priorities change. If I had insisted on working only in the field I was trained for, I would be unemployed today. If I become unemployed for some reason, I might look at other fields than the one I am in now.

And you're right its not her fault, its the parents so hopefully more people will make an example out of this and do more so incidents like this wont happen again. And isn't up to the parents to decide who they want and don't want around THEIR children to begin with.

"Incidents like this"? What exactly happened? Apart of course from some parents getting hot under the collar about somebody's "amoral" past life? And might I add we are not talking about some past life in which she harmed children in any way, shape or form?

However distasteful you personally find the porn industry, the performers work hard (there, I said it) and what they do is legal. If I had children at that school, I would be using the dinner lady as an example of why you should stick to your books and not be deceived by glamourous ideas about modelling and films, not trying to have her turned out of a job that nobody else is willing to take.

[TheLittleFriend]

Ok but still don't the children deserve better ? I don't believe that they should be letting just anybody work with children and whether or not she is or isn't in the adult industry, I still feel that she has no place and no right to be working at a school with children, if she really cared this much about children why didn't she do this BEFORE she decided to get into the adult industry. And you're right its not her fault, its the parents so hopefully more people will make an example out of this and do more so incidents like this wont happen again. And isn't up to the parents to decide who they want and don't want around THEIR children to begin with.

Honey, you really shouldn't worry about people who were in adult industry, serving food to the children......you should be worry about unregister sex offenders....

I rather have her serve crappy food to my kid than sex offender offer my kid a candy.

[SoUncool]

Ok I'm going to say it so hate me if you want but I am soooo AGAINST this !
I have two young children (and no Im not a jealous mom ) and I would so be against the idea of an ex porn star at my kids school and even if she isnt a threat most people from the porn industry aren't reputable and what if she had fans *oddly enough* and they followed her to a school full of children, I just dont see anything good coming from this and as far as the kids are concerned don't they deserve better ? get rid of her, its 150% better to be safe than sorry. And what would be next ? are they going to hire prostitutes for school counsellors ?! and ex druggies for principals ??? Of course children are going to find out who their lunch lady was because of all the attention this lady is getting from parents and the media already. With that kind of background I agree she doesnt need to be working with children and if parents care so much about this than maybe they should step up to the plate and start helping out more so this wouldn't *and shouldn't* have happened to begin with.

You do not have to have an education to be a lunch lady or playground monitor. You do have to have an education to be the principal or guidance counselor. Miss Titties OBVIOUSLY does not have a criminal background as they have to do a criminal background check on ALL school employees. She is not a volunteer (no background check needed) - she gets PAID for her duties (background check REQUIRED to be on the payroll.)

Let me guess...you do not have access to the RLD and you have never taken nude photos for fun and you are just the only perfect human being on the planet? Sorry to be harsh but EVERYONE deserves a chance to better their lives. She is doing a THANKLESS job, getting paid very little and obviously wants to be there regardless of the flack she's getting.

I say let Miss Tittie keep her job. She has done nothing wrong.

Oh yeah, enjoy your first "groan" - it's considered a badge of honor around here. Consider your cherry popped.

[Pete Bondurant]

Let's be realistic. You cannot have someone who was in pornographic films working in a primary school. It's just common sense. It's in the news...the little kiddies are going to be asking questions...."Mommy, what is a rim-job?" It just is not acceptable. She can go volunteer at one of those battered wives shelters or scrape some dead squirrels from the road.

[Sister Iroz]

Wonder if they would have let me volunteer if they knew of my past? I used to drink and do drugs and ride bike where I had to show my tits off. I think I was kinda slutty (It was the 70's folks!!!). I used to date the principal's brother in my "wild days" and he was OK with me being around the kids.

Same here Dakota! In the 70's I drank, did drugs and was slutty, partied, partied, partied. Not a shame to say either.

[Sister Iroz]

Ok I'm going to say it so hate me if you want but I am soooo AGAINST this !
I have two young children (and no Im not a jealous mom ) and I would so be against the idea of an ex porn star at my kids school and even if she isnt a threat most people from the porn industry aren't reputable and what if she had fans *oddly enough* and they followed her to a school full of children, I just dont see anything good coming from this and as far as the kids are concerned don't they deserve better ? get rid of her, its 150% better to be safe than sorry. And what would be next ? are they going to hire prostitutes for school counsellors ?! and ex druggies for principals ??? Of course children are going to find out who their lunch lady was because of all the attention this lady is getting from parents and the media already. With that kind of background I agree she doesnt need to be working with children and if parents care so much about this than maybe they should step up to the plate and start helping out more so this wouldn't *and shouldn't* have happened to begin with.

First of all I don't believe anyone hate's you for your opinion. It's your opinion and I for one want to hear everyone's opinion.

Look I know for a fact this woman get's paid shit for her job. I used to be a cafeteria monitor in elementary school. They are also part time hours and little pay and very hard to find anyone to work these positions. I bet you two to one these kids find her a fun, caring lunch lady who they talk about to each other for only that reason.

These children would have no clue about this lady's past if it wasn't for the parents and media. So I feel the parent's made a big deal out of nothing and made a mountain out of a mole hill.

You do not have to have an education to be a lunch lady or playground monitor. You do have to have an education to be the principal or guidance counselor. Miss Titties OBVIOUSLY does not have a criminal background as they have to do a criminal background check on ALL school employees. She is not a volunteer (no background check needed) - she gets PAID for her duties (background check REQUIRED to be on the payroll.)

Also as Souncool has stated they would NOT have hired her if she had any slightest thing on her record. Especially, with anything criminal on it. I've watched shows where porn stars are interviewed. They are just LIKE you and me and chose porn as there living. They also have a life outside of their job. Some believe it or not, have children who they love and care for and also probably volunteer in there child(ren) class room. OMG, what then should the other parents rally around and vote no she shouldn't volunteer? Hell no. You might be surprised what the parents do or are into, in your own children classroom. You may have a close friend or know someone that is afraid to tell you what they do for a living cause they fear they will be judged. I watch porn, does that mean I should not be around children? I'm a good person who enjoys some porn so if I'm judge so what won't change who I am.

[Harley_Tech]

Same here Dakota! In the 70's I drank, did drugs and was slutty, partied, partied, partied. Not a shame to say either.

The 70s are over? FUCK!

R

[crickett]

Let's be realistic. You cannot have someone who was in pornographic films working in a primary school. It's just common sense. It's in the news...the little kiddies are going to be asking questions...."Mommy, what is a rim-job?" It just is not acceptable. She can go volunteer at one of those battered wives shelters or scrape some dead squirrels from the road.

[missuncommonsense]

You do not have to have an education to be a lunch lady or playground monitor.
Well this interests me even more and like I said before don't these children deserve better ? Shouldn't the people that are dealing with their meals meet some sort of safe food handeling regulations. I know I wouldn't want just anybody handeling my kids foods.
You do have to have an education to be the principal or guidance counselor.
One more time don't these kids deserve somebody who takes the time to study in what they're getting into. Not just anybody off the street can go and apply to be a principal or counselor
Miss Titties OBVIOUSLY does not have a criminal background as they have to do a criminal background check on ALL school employees. She is not a volunteer (no background check needed) - she gets PAID for her duties (background check REQUIRED to be on the payroll.)

Let me guess...you do not have access to the RLD and you have never taken nude photos for fun and you are just the only perfect human being on the planet?
Nope I can assure you there isn't any nude pictures of me floating around on the internet and I've never said I was perfect and I'm not trying to be perfect, I'm just one of many concerned parents and I wish people would get their priorities straight and not let just anybody deal with our future aka our kids
Sorry to be harsh but EVERYONE deserves a chance to better their lives. She is doing a THANKLESS job, getting paid very little and obviously wants to be there regardless of the flack she's getting.

I say let Miss Tittie keep her job. She has done nothing wrong.
I still say let her go especially if its upsetting so many people. Theres many other things she can still do if she wants to help out that community.

Oh yeah, enjoy your first "groan"
lol thanks I dont expect anybody and everybody to agree with me I just had express my thoughts on this so Thank you for being real with me on yours. And I'm new here so I dont know what exactly a "groan" would be but I think I sense sarcasm and its ok it may be my first but even I'll tell you it won't be my last but I'm cool with that
- it's considered a badge of honor around here. Consider your cherry popped.
Groan Cherry has been officially considered popped

thanks for the taking the time to respond glad to hear your , as well as everybody elses, thoughts as well and sorry if I offended anyone