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Dakota Valkyrie
November 10th, 2008, 11:36 AM
http://i35.tinypic.com/6i8qdf.jpgThe mother of 19-year-old Ahmad Clewis-Green turned in her mentally ill son to police last week for allegedly killing a prostitute after refusing to pay her and hiding the body in a barrel in a lower downtown alley.

Denver prosecutors formally charged Clewis-Green with first- degree murder in the slaying of Esperanza Pardue, 27.

A plumbing contractor worker discovered Pardue's body Oct. 28 in a green metal barrel in an alley.

After hearing news reports about the woman found in the barrel, Clewis-Green's mother called police the next day.

She said her mentally disturbed son had called her Oct. 14 to confess that "he killed a prostitute in his apartment by bashing her head."

"He told her he put the body in a barrel and that a friend had helped him dispose of the body by rolling the body down the alley," Detective Randy Denison wrote.

Clewis-Green admitted to police that he killed Pardue.

Clewis-Green said he met the prostitute in a park Oct. 14 and agreed to pay her for sex. But after he and Pardue had sex at his apartment, he refused to pay and the prostitute became upset. He demanded Pardue leave and when she refused to leave his residence, he struck her with a metal pipe, killing her.

Clewis-Green said he'd written on the woman's body with a black marker and concealed the corpse for a while in his apartment.

Investigators didn't reveal what he scrawled on the body, which was wrapped in a shower curtain, bedding, plastic garbage bags and a blue plastic sheet before being stuffed in the barrel.

During three conversations with his mother, the suspect said he'd used bleach to try to clean bloodstains from his apartment walls.

But investigators found possible bloodstains and a woman's clothing while searching the man's apartment.http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/nov/06/denver-teen-charged-with-killing-prostitute/
Green lived at the Apartments at Skyline Park assisted-living facility for about six months. He did not have a job, neighbors said. They knew him as eager to help and abundantly friendly. He told them he was bipolar and schizophrenic.

Green frequently brought home transients and sketchy characters from the neighborhood, they said. Most neighbors would not give their names because they feared Green's associates.

"I can't make it make sense in my mind because he was a very meek child," said neighbor Harold Skobe. "He was a nice kid, but he was lonesome. Most of the people here are old, and he was young, just a kid. I think he brought home the wrong friends."http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_10860392

Even if they didn't worry about him killing someone, you would think they would worry about someone doing something "bad" too him.

Wonder why mom didn't go over and check on the story her son told her?

moonlilly1981
November 10th, 2008, 12:34 PM
Mental ill or not is no excuse. I speak from my own personal experience with bipolar disorder. We do have a conscience and know right from wrong.

crickett
November 10th, 2008, 12:46 PM
Bipolar is what criminals now claim to be when they do such horrific things to others. It's utter bullshit because BiPolar individuals DO have a conscience and Do know right from wrong.
Criminals used to all claim to be Schizophrenic when that was the en vogue mental ilness to claim when you killed someone or did some other horrific crime.

Usually this is all bullshit...someone commits a crime and tries to blame it on a mental illness which they do not even have. SHAME ON THEM!
Thus, those who DO have these illnesses are afraid to tell others or, sometimes, even to seek treatment beause of the stigma involved.

Casey Anthony, Susan Smith, Scott Peterson and Ted Bundy are ALL textbook cases of sociopathic personality disorder....which means that they do NOT have a conscience...they DO know right from wrong...but they do NOT care. But, they are/were NOT Bipolar or schizophrenic.

This young man is without a doubt mentally ill. However; he DID know that this was wrong and he needs to go to prison and do his time like anyone else. His mother did the right thing in turnng him in. God help his mother through this.

moonlilly1981
November 10th, 2008, 12:53 PM
Usually this is all bullshit...someone commits a crime and tries to blame it on a mental illness which they do not even have. SHAME ON THEM!
Thus, those who DO have these illnesses are afraid to tell others or, sometimes, even to seek treatment beause of the stigma involved.

Thank you for pointing that out. Its true I cant look at someone I am just starting a friendship with and say yes Im bipolar because then they ask me or look at me like im going to kill someone. Its fucked up because I have an illness I can't help. I have never commited any crimes, I dont hurt people let alone kill anyone. But it makes having friendships with others hard because they dont trust me. When I do feel that I can trust them to tell them for some odd reason they stop talking to me. I hate when someone uses mental illness as an excuse for everything and anything that suits their sick twisted purposes.

Peeperann
November 10th, 2008, 01:37 PM
Thank you for pointing that out. Its true I cant look at someone I am just starting a friendship with and say yes Im bipolar because then they ask me or look at me like im going to kill someone. Its fucked up because I have an illness I can't help. I have never commited any crimes, I dont hurt people let alone kill anyone. But it makes having friendships with others hard because they dont trust me. When I do feel that I can trust them to tell them for some odd reason they stop talking to me. I hate when someone uses mental illness as an excuse for everything and anything that suits their sick twisted purposes.

MoonLilly, i'm sorry that uneducated people would look at you like that. It's so stupid. Most people don't understand bipolar and only here about it when some idiot who's commited a horrible crime uses it as an excuse. And that hurts the people who really are, but are being treated and are basically normal other than depression and some manic episodes.

Stand strong honey, you're as normal as the rest of us!!

Special2bme
November 10th, 2008, 01:48 PM
Clewis-Green said he met the prostitute in a park Oct. 14 and agreed to pay her for sex. But after he and Pardue had sex at his apartment, he refused to pay and the prostitute became upset. He demanded Pardue leave and when she refused to leave his residence, he struck her with a metal pipe, killing her.

He understands that you have to pay a prostitute for sex. He understands asking her too leave and her refusing. So he chose to kill her and he understand what he is DOING!


Investigators didn't reveal what he scrawled on the body, which was wrapped in a shower curtain, bedding, plastic garbage bags and a blue plastic sheet before being stuffed in the barrel.

Damn, Wouldn't you think if he was mentally ill he would not think about concealing the body and stuffing it in a barrel. THIS IS BULLSHIT! Mom was bright enough to state this so his defense can use Insanity Plea.