Iron Man (2008)

[dop]

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9798/posterironmancomiconln6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Title: Iron Man
Date of release: 02-05-2008
Director: Jon Favreau
Script: Arthur Marcum, Matt Holloway
Producers: Paramount Pictures
Cast: Robert Downey Jr., Terrence Howard, Gwyneth Paltrow, Jeff Bridges, Shaun Toub, Leslie Bibb, Bill Smitrovich

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Damn, its still way too long till this gets released but im absolutley loving the trailer, im allmost as hyped for this as for Batman II.

I had my doubts over Fevreau directing it but after watching that trailer all my doubts are gone, it looks amazing.

The casting of Downey was a great choise, he captured Stark's charming asshole persona to a T and he can always play a great adict(no shit why) so he will nail Starks alcoholism im sure. Im not wild about Gwynet Paltrow in general and Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury..

Nick Fury is drawn in the likness of Sam Jackson in those lame "Ultimate" comics but hes been a white fella for the most part since his creation and thats how most of us identify him. Migth sound racist but I would have the exact same problem if they had made Storm a white woman in the X Men movies.

[Killroy]

As with all comic book movies, I am trying not to get too excited about this film. But let me say, it has one of the best trailers around.

[AnalBreeze]

I think it looks watchable! :D

[swivel]

I avoid hype, so I haven't watched the trailer. Until I read Morbid's comments. And now I have fucking goosebumps.

Thanks in advance for the colossal letdown you assholes!

[AnalBreeze]

Just remember, It's fricken Iron Man, How hyped can you get for Iron Man?

[Killroy]

Just remember, It's fricken Iron Man, How hyped can you get for Iron Man?

Well, I am not a comic book guy, so they could have picked any of them. Besides, Superman, Hulk, Batman (except for the last one) and most of the Spiderman films all sucked ass.

[AnalBreeze]

I'm not a comic book guy either but I Loved Batman Begins, Spider-Man 2 and X-2!
I think Iron Man will do about the same as Dare Devil at the Box Office.
The trailer looks pretty good, though! I'm sure my son will want to see it

[swivel]

Just remember, It's fricken Iron Man, How hyped can you get for Iron Man?

He was one of my favorite characters. I LOVED the "normal dude" comics. Like The Punisher, Batman and Iron Man. The more "super" the character, the less interested I was. I never got into Superman for that reason.

If the movie is just a longer version of the trailer, this will be the best comic-movie of all time. Very gritty, realistic feel to it. The dialog is so natural, like right before the ambush. And the awkward genius of Stark, something that a TON of comic-writers couldn't even get right, looks completely nailed in the trailer.

I'm stoked for this. It will get me back in the theater for the first time in forever.

[dop]

Im with Swiv, I loved the character way back when, hes such a flawed real man ridled with problems and making desicions I generally dont agree with but thats what makes him interesting.

I havent read a comic in a while but Im thinking of picking up the somewhat recent civil war saga where he seems like a real twat.

[AnalBreeze]

I think it looks great. Robert Downey looks perfect!

[Doc]

Im with Swiv, I loved the character way back when, hes such a flawed real man ridled with problems and making desicions I generally dont agree with but thats what makes him interesting.

I totally agree. I'm a big Iron Man fan because I think Tony Stark is a much more interesting character than most Super Heroes, who aren't really flawed like Stark is.

[KillBill20]

Looks to be another kick ass comic adaptation... hopefully they won't edit all the good parts down (ala The Punisher). What can I say... I'm excited!

~Kyle

[KillBill20]

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/westman00/hr_Iron_Man_armor.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/westman00/hr_Iron_Man_1.jpg

The latest Iron Man still to be released! This movie is going to be badass!!!

~Kyle

[KillBill20]

Here is yet another new Iron Man photo, for those of you who haven't quite decided if this really WILL be the greatest movie ever made take a look at this:

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/westman00/hr_Iron_Man_Super_Bowl_spot.jpg

And tell me otherwise!

~Kyle

[Horrorholic]

This is a press release I got in my email... Shhhh, don't tell anyone I shared!

PARAMOUNT PICTURES AND MARVEL ENTERTAINMENT
ANNOUNCE SUPER BOWL XLII ADVERTISING SPOT FOR
MARVEL STUDIOS’ HIGHLY-ANTICIPATED “IRON MAN” FILM

Ratings Blockbuster Giants/Patriots Battle Exciting Launch Pad
For Film Adaptation of Marvel Comic Book Super Hero
Due for Release May 2, 2008

Major WebSites to Stream Ad Spot after Tele-Cast

HOLLYWOOD, CA, January 31, 2008 –Paramount Pictures and Marvel Entertainment today announced that a prime advertising spot for Marvel Studios’ highly-anticipated “Iron Man” will air during the Super Bowl XLII face-off between the New England Patriots and the New York Giants on Sunday February 3, 2008.

Paramount Pictures and Marvel Entertainment Present the big screen adaptation of Marvel’s legendary Super Hero Iron Man, which opens in theaters on May 2, 2008.

Marvel.com will tease the spot on February 1, and following its TV debut at approximately 4:30 p.m. PST, the ad will be available on Apple.com, Marvel.com, and the official Iron Man website at IronManMovie.com. Additional sites, including Yahoo Sports! and ESPN.com, will carry the ad the following day.

Oscar® nominee Robert Downey Jr. stars as Tony Stark/Iron Man in the story of a kidnapped billionaire industrialist and genius inventor. Using his intelligence and ingenuity, Tony builds a high-tech suit of armor and escapes captivity. When he uncovers a nefarious plot with global implications, he dons his powerful armor and vows to protect the world as Iron Man. The highly-anticipated action-adventure co-stars Gwyneth Paltrow, Jeff Bridges, Terrence Howard and Shaun Toub. The film is directed by Jon Favreau from a screenplay by Mark Fergus & Hawk Ostby and Art Marcum & Matt Holloway, produced by Avi Arad and Kevin Feige. The executive producers are Louis D’Esposito, Peter Billingsley, Jon Favreau, Ari Arad, Stan Lee and David Maisel.

About Marvel Entertainment, Inc.

With a library of over 5,000 characters, Marvel Entertainment, Inc. is one of the world's most prominent character-based entertainment companies. Marvel's operations are focused on utilizing its character franchises in licensing, entertainment, publishing and toys. Areas of emphasis include feature films, DVD/home video, consumer products, video games, action figures and role-playing toys, television and promotions. Rooted in the creative success of over sixty years of comic book publishing, Marvel's strategy is to leverage its character franchises in a growing array of opportunities around the world. For more information visit www.marvel.com.

About Paramount Pictures Corporation

Paramount Pictures Corporation (PPC), a global producer and distributor of filmed entertainment, is a unit of Viacom (NYSE: VIA, VIA.B), a leading content company with prominent and respected film, television and digital entertainment brands. The company's labels include Paramount Pictures, Paramount Vantage, Paramount Classics, MTV Films, Nickelodeon Movies and DreamWorks Studios. PPC operations also include Paramount Pictures Digital Entertainment, Paramount Home Entertainment, Paramount Pictures International, Paramount Licensing Inc., Paramount Studio Group, and Worldwide Television Distribution.

Iron Man, the Movie © 2008 MVL Film Finance LLC. Marvel, Iron Man, all character names and their distinctive likenesses: TM & © 2008 Marvel Entertainment, Inc. and its subsidiaries. All Rights Reserved

[dop]

Heres some new pics I lifted from this site (http://www.movie-infos.de/galerie_categories.php?cat_id=694) seeing as we havent discussed this one in a while...

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9119/ironman8bs5.jpg

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4407/ironman9ez7.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5456/ironman11lh7.jpg
Whats Foggy Nelson from the Daredevil movie doing with Iron Man? :P

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/746/ironman13xq2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I hate Paltrow but shes not a bad actress so whatever...

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/190/ironman07zc1.jpg

[KillBill20]

That shot of Iron Man flying is incredibly bad-ass! I can't wait for this one and The Dark Knight!

~Kyle

[swivel]

This is going to be the best super-movie to date. I can just feel it.

[KillBill20]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QlHZN2l-ug

I thought you guys may enjoy this as well.

~Kyle

[dop]

Awsome new poster with the the diferent mark versions weve seen so far.(prolly the only ones in this movie)

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8571/ironmanposterdp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[KillBill20]

I like the Mark 2 suit personally, the blue glowing eyes look really cool.

~Kyle

[swivel]

New trailer:

http://www.movieweb.com/video/V08B26dfjlrvJV

I still have goosebumps. This is going to be my favorite movie of all time. It makes my mouth taste like tin-foil, in a good way.

[mrbishop77]

I concur wholeheartedly. This role, and the way it looks to be written, was tailor made for Downey Jr. I am really excited to see this. Between Iron Man and that new Indiana Jones flick (did you see that trailer? wow) I am actually looking forward to some popcorn movies other than Spider-man (huge fan from childhood).

[Wends]

New trailer:

http://www.movieweb.com/video/V08B26dfjlrvJV

I still have goosebumps. This is going to be my favorite movie of all time. It makes my mouth taste like tin-foil, in a good way.

BTW, this trailer is featured before 10,000 BC. Looks really awesome on the big screen - many of the problems I have with computer-generated special effects scenes (you know, the cheesy fake look they sometimes have, like in Reign of Fire for a good strong example) are refreshingly missing. At least so far as the trailer's concerned.

We'll have to see how the rest of the movie holds up.

[KillBill20]

"Let's face it... this isn't the worst thing you've caught me doing"

This movie is going to be as good as Spider-Man was. Which means Iron Man 2 is going to be even better... and the 3rd one is going to totally suck! I can't wait!

~Kyle

[dop]

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[KillBill20]

ComingSoon.net reports that Andrew Cripps, President of Paramount Pictures International, announced at ShoWest's International Day on Monday that Iron Man will be released Day-and-Date worldwide on April 30. What is unclear is whether that means North America will also get the movie two days earlier than the planned May 2 release. One thing to support that we will, is that Paramount is planning another Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull trailer for April, presumably with another Paramount movie, of which the biggest one would be Iron Man (if it indeed opens here on April 30.)

We're getting sooo close to watching this one! I honestly don't even care about Indiana Jones at the moment, I'm way more hyped for Iron Man and The Dark Knight!

~Kyle

[KillBill20]

ComingSoon.net reports that Andrew Cripps, President of Paramount Pictures International, announced at ShoWest's International Day on Monday that Iron Man will be released Day-and-Date worldwide on April 30. What is unclear is whether that means North America will also get the movie two days earlier than the planned May 2 release. One thing to support that we will, is that Paramount is planning another Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull trailer for April, presumably with another Paramount movie, of which the biggest one would be Iron Man (if it indeed opens here on April 30.)

We're getting sooo close to watching this one! I honestly don't even care about Indiana Jones at the moment, I'm way more hyped for Iron Man and The Dark Knight!

~Kyle

[dop]

So, New pictures..

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2029/ironmanbigslideshow1pg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4769/ironmanbigslideshow2sp0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1527/ironmanbigslideshow3ox1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[KillBill20]

Wal-Mart had a bunch of toys out for Iron Man the other day. Some pretty cool stuff, a big 14 inch figure, that'd look totally cool on my shelf! Along with an Iron Man Mask and some kind of Arm Accessory.

I can't wait for all the promotional stuff to start flooding the stores! Yay for Iron Man themed soft drinks and breakfast cereal!

~Kyle

[impqueen]

Iron-Fortified Iron Man!

i'd eat it.

[nurseronda]

WOW!!! Now that is my kind of Man.....lol

[KillBill20]

Iron-Fortified Iron Man!

i'd eat it.

See... this stuff pratically sells itself!

This is what I loved about the Spider-Man flicks, especially Spider-Man 3. They marketed the piss out of those things. Did you know you could buy a Spider-Man themed taco kit! I love things like that.

~Kyle

[CPL CHUD]

See... this stuff pratically sells itself!

This is what I loved about the Spider-Man flicks, especially Spider-Man 3. They marketed the piss out of those things. Did you know you could buy a Spider-Man themed taco kit! I love things like that.

~Kyle

They need a pornstar themed taco kit.

[impqueen]

They need a pornstar themed taco kit.

yeah, well, the Ron Jeremy Hot Dogs didn't go over so well.

[CPL CHUD]

yeah, well, the Ron Jeremy Hot Dogs didn't go over so well.

I think if they did do a taco kit then adding sour cream and guacamole would be weird, but realistic.

[Horrorholic]

I think if they did do a taco kit then adding sour cream and guacamole would be weird, but realistic.
I don't even want to know what the guacamole would be.

[KillBill20]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6979

Here it comes...

[KillBill20]

Iron Man got its rating today... are you guys ready for this, its a huge shocker!

RESTRICTED: FOR SUSTAINED STRONG STYLIZED VIOLENCE, NUDITY AND SEXUAL CONTENT INCLUDING DIALOGUE

opps, fuck me.... wrong rating, here is the real one:

PG-13 for some intense sequences of sci-fi action and violence and brief suggestive content.

Is this really newsworthy?

~Kyle

[dop]

**Spoilerish video**

This vid is oficial, it was played on Nickeloodeon but still its a full scene so some of you migth want to avoid it to watch the whole thing fresh.

There is nothing story specific, just Stark testing the flight propelling tech.

Quite a fun scene, Normally it would be medicore but Downey oozes charisma on this role, Im so hyped about this film.

Lets see if I dont fuck the embeding with the new board sistem

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[KillBill20]

This movie is going to be GREAT! Thanks for the post Drop!

~Kyle

[AnalBreeze]

That looks great, dop. thanks! I can't wait to take my son to this! :D

[AnalBreeze]

I was hoping for a midnight showing of this and come to find out...
Our little town is having an early showing at 8:00 pm thursday!
Now that's great but I have to work until 10:00 pm! So that's not so great!
Kyle gets to go see it early, though! You bastard! :D

[dop]

Are you ok AB? your voice sounds kind of rough, I certainly hope you aint coming up with something! ;)

No, really, I guess youll make the late nigth showing.

Im not much of a premiere kind of guy, I fucking hate packed crowd shows so I like to go early in the morning the next day, you find alot less peeps.

[AnalBreeze]

Well dop, Thanks for your concern but I feel great... Ok, my knee is twisted but other than that, I'm great! How 'bout you?

Anyway, I love goin' to the early showings of these big movies with all the loud dumbass movie goers.
It's more like an event than going to watch the film itself. I'll go to the early showing and then again
on sunday afternoon with my son! Then I can enjoy the film more!

[dop]

Wait, what the fuck!

I just realised I get to see it before any of you guys, I had seen the posters that said it opened on 30th and just asumed it was a friday, I was just glad it didnt opened weeks or even months after the US release as so many movies do here.

Then it hit me, 30th is wednesday, and Its fucking El Dia del Niño(childs day) so I google the date to be sure I wasnt missremembering and fucks yea, Paramount decided to take advantage of it being EDDN and release it earlier here to try to get the little fuckers to make their parent take em to the cinema.

Fuck yea! I love you pinches niños! youve made my week!

[swivel]

I just realised I get to see it before any of you guys, I had seen the posters that said it opened on 30th and just asumed it was a friday, I was just glad it didnt opened weeks or even months after the US release as so many movies do here.

I hate you.

[Hippiepoet]

We're definitely going to see this movie. My 5 yr old son is an Iron Man freak and Mr. Hip is too. LOL Every time we go to the World of Wally, the boy needs to look at all the new Iron Man toys. (He also loves the Burger King commercial they have going on right now...."MOM. Come look it's IRON MAN" and all I can think of is the song from Black Sabbath....."I AM IRONMAN" :p

[KillBill20]

I'm going to an advanced showing Thursday at 8. I cannot fucking wait. Plus, after its done I get to be a jackass and call Mike and rub it in that I've just seen Iron Man and he had to work :D

~Kyle

[Horrorholic]

I just realised I get to see it before any of you guys, I had seen the posters that said it opened on 30th and just asumed it was a friday, I was just glad it didnt opened weeks or even months after the US release as so many movies do here.

Except that I just back from watching it tonight... ;)
and it rocked. I would dare say its up there with X2 and Spidey 2, which are my two favorite superhero movies.

[dop]

lol, my plans have been foiled!

At least I get to see it today, ill go at 12am, Im hoping it wont be too packed due the time and the fact they are runing for one day only prety much every recent childern's film.

Plus now that im thinking about it the promotion here has been minimal, especially considering the heavy bombarding in the states... Really, ive seen an ocasional tv ad, a few posters here and there and like one magazine cover... In fact Ive seen more shit for "Made of Honor" here wich makes my stomach churn every time I see the poster...

[dop]

Best Marvel film so far by a long shot, just a notch from being as good as Batman Begins id say.

As much as I like other previous Marvel movies there is always a thing or two that irks me, a joke thats too retarded and over extended or an artistic liberty taking away from the comic that I do not enjoy.. Well, not with this one, its prety much perfect...

The artistic liberties add to the movie..

There isnt a single terrible joke(there is merly a single mediocre not really bad pun I can think of)..

It has a well constructed story with a lot of character exposition yet it doesnt get boring at any moment...

All the actors are great(Including Gwyneth Paltrow who I was bitching about eariler)...

Fuck it, even the product placement was brilliantly done not over exposing at all like other films, If I didnt knew this brands had PP I wouldnt had even tougth about it...


heck, I think im gona go see it again later today.

[Horrorholic]

Glad to see you liked it dop. At least I won't be alone in hyping it! I'm happy that it wasn't a post-viewing high I was on.

[dop]

Nah, I tougth that too at first. "Hey, maybe after some time and a few views ill stop thinking its the best marvel movie ever" but really everything they did they did it perfectly.

Only other superhero movie ive felt like that is Batman Begins and heck even for that one I hated Kattie Holmes beforehand and while she wasnt terrible in it she didnt really won me over the way paltrow did, she was a perfect Pepper Potts I have to admit.

[KillBill20]

I cannot wait to watch this movie! I'm typing this at 6:10 AM and I'm going to see it tonight at 8:00 PM. I wish I had a Doc Brown built time machine about right now...

~Kyle

[swivel]

God... I can't fucking wait.

But I have to, don't I?

10:00 am on Saturday...

[KillBill20]

Major, major, major spoiler alert... don't read (this has to do with the end of the film)


At the end of the credits, Stark comes home and finds Nick Fury in his living room -staring towards the window. He then turns to tell Stark he's the not the only superhero in the world. Stark asks who he is, and Fury turns and says he's "Nick Fury of S.H.I.E.L.D, and I'm here to talk to you about The Avengers Initiative

Now I dunno about you guys, but this makes me so happy I want to cry!


~Kyle

[Horrorholic]

Major, major, major spoiler alert... don't read (this has to do with the end of the film)


At the end of the credits, Stark comes home and finds Nick Fury in his living room -staring towards the window. He then turns to tell Stark he's the not the only superhero in the world. Stark asks who he is, and Fury turns and says he's "Nick Fury of S.H.I.E.L.D, and I'm here to talk to you about The Avengers Initiative

Now I dunno about you guys, but this makes me so happy I want to cry!


~Kyle
I just wanna say that that wasn't attached to the print I saw.
Just saying...

[dop]

Sorry kyle but that was taken out of the movie, I cant say Im unhappy about it personally...

Iguess I migth as well put the rest of my responce in spoilers too...

I like a lot of peeps hated the idea of Ultimates Nick Fury, I like my Colonel Fury a cigar toting WWII vet keept young by the infinity serum that has been a staple of the comics since forever not Motherfuckin Sam Jackson from the shity comic series that will be cancelled in a few years...

Hopefully the pulling that scene out was a responce to how vocal some fans were about that and they will re consider the re casting that part for future movies. So far the Avengers movie seems very much in plans it seems, aparently it will be much more so aparent in Hulk, if rumors are true it will be cameorific!

[KillBill20]

Apparently that much ballyhooed Nick Fury (as played by, of course, Samuel L. Jackson) cameo in the upcoming “Iron Man” was missing from advancing screenings Paramount held for critics, because I’ve read on a number of sites that have reviewed the film that Nick Fury does not have a cameo. Not true, says Australian moviegoers, who confirms that Nick Fury does do a brief cameo at the end of the film, in which one viewer described as “40 seconds or so with Stark and Nick Fury”.

Moviehole, an Aussie movie site, has more from his fellow Down Underoos:

Another writer tells us :

“At the end of the credits, Stark comes home and finds Nick Fury in his living room -staring towards the window. He then turns to tell Stark he’s the not the only superhero in the world. Stark asks who he is, and Fury turns and says he’s “Nick Fury of S.H.I.E.L.D, and I’m here to talk to you about The Avengers Initiative”.

This is directly from beyondhollywood.com. What kind of showings did you guys go to? Were they any kind of press screenings?

~Kyle

[dop]

Well, I waited trougth the cool credits(btw those were gorgeous) expecting to maybe see something like that as its comon in marvel movies but then just the black credits crediting absolutley everyone including Downey's dealer rolled so I asumed it had none and left before those were over.

I was planing on seeing it again later today so Ill wait for those to end too but I remember reading that scene was very much gone since a few weeks back... well see.

[KillBill20]

It really sucks if they removed it. However... it is kind of fun to have these last minute conflicting reports about the film. Its making me even more excited to go watch it.

I'm going to sneak in my digital camera (it can record up to five minutes of video). If said scene is in fact in the movie, and I'm able to snap some video.... we'll have a Screamin’ Demon exclusive on YouTube by the days end! :D

~Kyle

[dop]

Ahhh It was actually there its just at the end of the interminable black credits.

Its actually a cool scene, you can see there will be tension between Stark and Fury.

[KillBill20]

That's great! I'm totally brining my camera now!

Just so you guys know I've been killing time this afternoon (I didn't have to work) ripping video to my computer, I've decided to make a (fake) Marvel Civil War trailer. Here are the movies I've ripped from so far (let me know if I'm missing anything important)


Spiderman
Spiderman 2
The Punisher
Daredevil
X-Men
X-Men 2
X-Men 3
Fantastic Four


I'm going to use parts of the Iron Man trailer(s) and unfortunately the Captain America stuff is going to have to come from the 1990 film (at least the suit doesn't looked... alright). I can't remember (since I never technically finished reading the line) was The Hulk involved with the Civil War? Anyone else (that I could realistically get footage of) that I'm missing.

~Kyle

[dop]

What a cool video project Kyle, good luck with it..

The Hulk had been tricked into space on the planet hulk saga at the time.

Spidey starts wearing the black suit by the end of the saga so you migth want to get SM3 if you want to add some of that to it. not really that important tho.

[dop]

Too early to speak of Iron man II? FUCK NO!

Entertainment Tonight attended the Iron Man premiere and got a chance to speak to Viacom and CBS Executive Chairman Sumner Redstone and Paramount Pictures CEO Brad Grey who said that if the movie does as well as expected, the studio will be looking to release the sequel in 2010.

What's interesting is that The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader has already "claimed" the first weekend of the summer that year (May 7, 2010), but if you look at the calendar, Iron Man 2 could easily open on April 30, which is a Friday, essentially giving it almost a similar release date as the first film.


IESB, always on the ball, was at the premiere of Iron Man in Los Angeles yesterday (damn living in America!). They managed to track down Brad Bose, who was Robert Downey Jr.’s trainer for the film. And apparently, Bose said that he starts training with Downey again real soon.

Apparently Downey has taken a break from training while he went to work on Ben Stiller’s Tropic Thunder, but Bose says they’ll be starting in again soon, so that they can have him ready for a deadline in 5 months.

That would suggest a production date early in 09, and a release possible a year later. Now we just gotta see if the first one is any good (I’m going in 12 hours… but maybe one of my colleagues will beat me to it!).

Joshua S. Hill
5/1/2008
Source: IESB

[KillBill20]

I'm heading out to the film guys! I've literally been waiting for this one all day today. I've got my digital camera, I can take up to 25 minutes of video. I'm going to try to snag that scene at the end of the film. But I can't guarantee anything. I'll be back later tonight with a full review... and hopefully a DD exclusive video :D

~Kyle

[KillBill20]

Here is the video, the best I could shoot it. This contains spoilers in regards to the end of the film! Don't watch it you want to be surprised

Otherwise enjoy and thank me later:

YouTube - Nick Fury Cameo (Iron Man 2008)


~Kyle

[swivel]

KillBill, I can't watch it yet (seeing the film tomorrow morning), but very fucking cool of you to pull this off. Make sure Morbid sees this and gets it in our YouTube page (as long as we won't get in too much trouble)

Kudos, dude!

[impqueen]

youtube sez "this video is no longer available". Damn them.

[KillBill20]

I got a cease and desist from YouTube and they pulled the video :D So I've uploaded it to Photobucket. Not as flashy as YouTube but I doubt that it'll get yanked.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/westman00/th_100_0136.jpg

~Kyle

[dop]

Fucking awsome you pulled this of Kyle.

BTW, what did you tougth about the film, Im sure you must have liked it but how far would you rank it against other SH movies?

[KillBill20]

Fucking awsome you pulled this of Kyle.

BTW, what did you tougth about the film, Im sure you must have liked it but how far would you rank it against other SH movies?

Thanks. I'm pissed that my camera didn't fucking zoom in (you can clearly see and hear me fucking with it at the beginning). I was the only person in the theater, so I just walked to the back and stood up, had I known the zoom function didn't work while in video mode... I'd have simply walked to the front of the theater.

I'm going to go so far as to say Iron Man is right on par with the original Spiderman and X-Men. I think its unfair to compare it to what I consider to be the king of comic films, Spiderman 2. Iron Man had to do all the setup as to who Tony Stark was, what hes like, the back-story behind everything. Spiderman 2 was allowed to just jump right in and be the best fucking movie of all time.

Anyhow, I've trailed off on another subject. Iron Man was great. They did a really good job of explaining who exactly Tony Stark is in a way that works for both fans of the comic, and people who've never read a page in their life.

I've always got the feeling that the Fantastic Four movies basically assumed everyone was an idiot and therefor had to hold you by the hand and walk you through step by step with each character. Thankfully Iron Man just picks up and goes. It doesn't spend four hours on unnecessary character development, it was wrote in a way that (everyone) can pick up on whose who within the first 15 minutes of the film.

Robert Downey Jr. is Tony Stark. There is no other actor who could have pulled it off the way he did. Five Star performance on his part!

Visually the movie is stunning. Iron Man looks exactly like Iron Man. There is no bullshitting around in that department. And he looks believable on top of everything else. You really get a sense Tony Stark really did create this flight suit.

Another thing that Iron Man did really well was manage to keep the same pace throughout the film. Using Transformers as a comparison, you could really tell that whoever wrote that film tried very hard to go "ok this is our big action scene" and then follow it with "ok now this is our comedy scene" then follow that with "a romantic scene". Iron Man, on the other hand, did feel broke down into action scene, romantic scene, comedy scene. Because of the nature of the character (Tony Stark being a smartass) it allowed for a film that really was all three things (action, comedy, romance) without blatantly shoving it in your face and going YOUR SUPPOSED TO BE LAUGHING AT THIS SCENE, JACKASS!

About my only gripe with the film is the fact that they kind of maybe spent a little too long with Tony building the suit. You almost come to a point where you just want him to finish the damn thing. But really that is such a minor, minor thing it wouldn't even begin to take away points from the film... hell, not even half points!

Overall I give Iron Man a solid five out of five. There is absolutely no reason why anyone should go to this film and leave disappointed.

Now we can start waiting for either Iron Man 2... or an Avengers film (What do we want? AVENGERS! When do we want it.... quickly-but-not so-quickly-that-it-feels-rushed-so-how-about-late-2009-or-summer-2010?!)

~Kyle

[AnalBreeze]

I just saw it and I loved it!
Robert Downey Jr. Is back in a big way and I couldn't see anyone else play Tony Stark. Can't wait to see what they do next!
My only gripe with the film is the fact that you have to sit through 30 minutes of credits to see the last shot with S L Jackson!

[dop]

To be frank I doubt we will see an avengers movie in a few years but at least it will be fantastically seted up. unlike the JLA movie that was on the works but recently cancelled, that one sounded shity as hell.

[swivel]

Just got back from the 10:00 am showing.

Best. Comic. Movie. Ever.

Isn't even close, really. Much better than my former favorite, Batman Begins.

Not only that, it is my favorite action film since the original Matrix.

And the end was more than worth watching the credits.

[dop]

Wile I do like BB more Ill admit it has a lot to do with how much I favor Batman over Ironman as a character but thinking about it Ironman is a far bether all around movie...

One has Batman being a for the fans mostly film that can feel quite tedious and long for many casual movie goers, wile Ironman works perfectly both for us comicbook geeks as well as the people that havent the slightest idea who Ironman is. Its the type of movie guys force on their girlfriends only for them to end up enjoying it just as much.

perfect popcorn movie, perfect geekproof adaptation.

[swivel]

One has Batman being a for the fans mostly film that can feel quite tedious and long for many casual movie goers, wile Ironman works perfectly both for us comicbook geeks as well as the people that havent the slightest idea who Ironman is. Its the type of movie guys force on their girlfriends only for them to end up enjoying it just as much.

I think BB gets a lot of its strength because we feel that it rescued the franchise from some shitty movies that came before it. If it was the only Batman movie ever made, I wouldn't love it so much. The Gotham scenes were a bit cheesy, especially with the big tower with all the trains running through it, and the scenes with the gas released in Gotham still feel weird every time I see them. The movie started great, with grit and realism and flair... and then it started creeping into the zany bullshit that the Batman movies became infamous for.

What was great about Iron Man is that the dialog was 100% believable. There wasn't a single cheese-ball line in the entire film. And the touching moments really were touching, not corny. But what really nailed it for me was the realism. When he was holding the Mk2 helmet, doing a re-design, there were wax pencil marks all over the thing. Engineering calipers were lying around, the Mk1 didn't have bullets or any of the shit that the badguys would never have given them, and they didn't have the terrorists re-create their own MK from scraps. The movie was dripping with realism, and had enough nods to us comic geeks (like when Rhodes gave the alternate suit a nod and said, "Maybe next time").

Also, I've never laughed so hard at an action flick. The comedic timing was just genius. Especially the fire-robot scenes, the phonecall from Rhodes to Tony, and all of the Potts scenes.

[dop]

You know what, you are rigth, I can think of a few things about BB that made me think "cheese" yet I wouldnt change a god damn thing about Ironman.

So far I am two for two on theater viewings for either film but frankly ill likeley break that mark by at least two more for Ironman, we are on the opening weekend for petes sake. I migth even go see it horribly dubed in spanish just for the fuck of it, its runing like that at my dollar fiddy cinema.

fukit. BEST COMICBOOK MOVIE EVER!

You know I had almost no interest on the Hulk a few weeks back, but after seeing what the first no outside studio just marvel entretainment production company pulls out im a lot more ineterested, not to mention the sweet second trailer they pulled out for it...

[Sea Hag]

Going in I wasn't expecting anything weighty. What I was expecting was to have an unabashed blast at the theater. What I got is one of, if not the most blase comic book film I've ever seen.

The beginning is pretty cool. I like the idea of Stark building a death machine to use against his captors right under their noses. But once he got back to civilization the film just seemed to go in full bore mode. I understand and appreciate how much time was spent on him creating his suit considering that's such a huge part of the character but after seeing so many comic book films it felt a bit contrived much like the film as a whole. I could almost count the seconds when Iron Man was going to show up and save that kid and his father. And that scene when he goes back to take out the terrorists is probably the best action scene in the film (which are few and far between) but even it was only good in incriments. (when he took out the 5 guys at once was pretty cool) The rest was just, eh.

Really, all of the action scenes were pretty boring. Especially the final fight with Bridges. (whose an extremely unmemorable villain in this) It was over quick and it lacked brutal intensity. And what did Paltrow do again to kill him off? Did she detonate a microwave that had a flux capacitor or some shit? I forget...

To sum up Iron Man in one word: blase.

5.5/10 (the cg work was great though)






Just got back from the 10:00 am showing.

Best. Comic. Movie. Ever.

Isn't even close, really. Much better than my former favorite, Batman Begins.

Ironman is a far bether all around movie...

Not even close. It's not even a matter of opinion. You two should be ashamed of yourselves.

I think BB gets a lot of its strength because we feel that it rescued the franchise from some shitty movies that came before it. If it was the only Batman movie ever made, I wouldn't love it so much. The Gotham scenes were a bit cheesy, especially with the big tower with all the trains running through it, and the scenes with the gas released in Gotham still feel weird every time I see them. The movie started great, with grit and realism and flair... and then it started creeping into the zany bullshit that the Batman movies became infamous for.

You really missed the mark Swivel. Do you even know what cheesy means or are you just saying this because you want to get a reaction out of the local Dark Knight freak? I really can't tell.

[AnalBreeze]

‘Iron Man’ crushes box office with $100M debut

Superhero film is the second best premiere ever for a non-sequel movie

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Box office results
Estimated ticket sales for May 2-4
1. “Iron Man,” $100.7 million.
2. “Made of Honor,” $15.5 million.
3. “Baby Mama,” $10.3 million.
4. “Forgetting Sarah Marshall,” $6.1 million.
5. “Harold & Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay,” $6 million.
6. “The Forbidden Kingdom,” $4.2 million.
7. “Nim’s Island,” $2.8 million.
8. “Prom Night,” $2.5 million.
9. “21,” $2.1 million.
10. “88 Minutes,” $1.6 million.

LOS ANGELES - “Iron Man” was pure gold at the box office.

The Marvel Comics adaptation, starring Robert Downey Jr. as the guy in the metal suit, hauled in $100.7 million during its opening weekend and $104.2 million since debuting Thursday night, the second-best premiere ever for a nonsequel, according to studio estimates Sunday.

The film also scored overseas with $96.7 million in 57 countries where it began opening Wednesday, putting its worldwide total at $201 million.

The movie, distributed by Paramount, is the first release by Marvel Studios, which has begun financing its own productions after such studio-backed hits as the “Spider-Man,” “X-Men” and “Fantastic Four” flicks.

“We could not have hoped for a better way for Marvel Studios to blast off,” said David Maisel, chairman of the unit, a division of Marvel Entertainment, which stands to pull in a greater share of box office receipts and merchandising money by financing movies itself.

Debuting in second place with $15.5 million was Sony’s romantic comedy “Made of Honor,” starring “Grey’s Anatomy” heartthrob Patrick Dempsey as a man who tries to woo his best pal after she asks him to be “maid of honor” at her wedding.

“Iron Man,” which won rave reviews from many critics, features Downey as billionaire arms designer Tony Stark, a boozy womanizer who builds a high-tech suit and becomes a superhero, mending his ways after he’s taken captive and sees firsthand the devastation his weapons cause.

The film is directed by Jon Favreau, and also stars Gwyneth Paltrow, Jeff Bridges and Terrence Howard.

Despite the huge “Iron Man” opening, Hollywood’s overall business was down compared to the same weekend last year, when “Spider-Man 3” had a record debut of $151.1 million. The top 12 movies took in $154.1 million, off 15 percent from a year ago.

“Nonetheless, ‘Iron Man’ did better than expected,” said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box office tracker Media By Numbers. “This is certainly the shot in the arm the marketplace has needed.”

Movie attendance this year is running 6 percent behind that of 2007, so the arrival of “Iron Man” may jump start the box office as the busy summer season begins.

“If that first May movie is a big hit, it tends to lead to a big summer,” said Rob Moore, Paramount vice chairman. “There hadn’t been a big event movie yet this year. So you have the first event movie of summer, and people go ‘And I hear it’s really good. All right, I’m in.”’

“Iron Man” was the 10th biggest opening of all time and the fourth biggest for a superhero movie. Among nonsequels, it came in behind only the first “Spider-Man,” which premiered with $114.8 million.

“If we have to, we’re happy to come in second to another Marvel property,” Maisel said. “It emphasizes how lucky we are to have such a powerful brand that’s not loved by just comic book fans but also general movie fans.”

[Morbid]

While I wouldn't rate it as low as Sea Hag, I do feel it was not better than the last Batman flick, and this is from someone who doesn't even like Batman...or comic book heroes in general.

My main issues with the film were the fact that they built up this final battle between Stark abd Bridges character, only to have Iron Man get his ass kicked (badly) and end up having his personal assistant kill the guy. Which I wouldn't even have minded if it had not been in such an anti-climatic way. In fact...exactly what did kill the guy? The blast of whatever it was, or the fall?

I also did not like the fact that these terrorists, ASSISTED by Obediah himself, allowed the world's greatest (and possibly smartest) weapons making genius, to work in a closed room with not ONE armed guard. They could have explained this in one line or scene, but they didn't.

Other than that, I enjoyed it even though the action scenes were short and not extremely memorable (except for the breakout at the beginning).

Oh, and this is just me picking nits, but I really hate when movies have robots in them, act human in the capacity Stark's robots did, even to the point of having one save him by knowing what Stark was trying to reach for....and speaking of the technology...Stark had robots that understood human voice, emotion and direction, 3D holograph images that were 100 percent interactive, mini reactors of some type that power his house (and the suits), etc, etc...but he couldn't remove the remaining shrapnel?

But anyway, I liked the film. Downey was great, and I actually liked Bridges. Paltrow, who I am not a fan of, was fine as well. I wanted to kill people after waiting for 5 hours until the credits ended to see a 20 second clip that meant nothing to me. :)

7 or 8 out of 10. Does not come close to the last Batman flick and I liked Spiderman 2 AND X2 better...even though to be fair, I have not seen those two films in a while.

My kid liked it, although he did not like the conversation between Bridges and Downy in the final battle. He thought it was cheesy. :)

[Sea Hag]

My kid liked it, although he did not like the conversation between Bridges and Downy in the final battle. He thought it was cheesy. :)

I thought the same thing. Your son is wise beyond his years.

And I don't want to single out Swivel because truth be told I like the guy alot and think we'd get along like gangbusters. (same applies to pretty much everyone on this board) But his dripping with realism comment is perplexing to the max.

The last thing I thought about when Stark plummeted a couple 1000ft in his protype suit after escaping his captors was how realistic it was. The suit was shown to be obliterated on impact yet Stark was no worse for wear. There are so many instances that make this film anything but realistic but since I'm tired I don't feel like listing all of'em.

I will say this. Bruce Wayne & Alfred ordering a 100,000+ mini-headset recorders on the accounts of multiple dummy corporations for the sole purpose of distracting corporate types is probably the most realistic thing ever in comic book films. But yeah, Iron Man isn't realistic in the slightest.

[Sea Hag]

In fact...exactly what did kill the guy? The blast of whatever it was, or the fall?[/SPOILER]

Like I said before, I'm pretty sure a flux-capacitor was involved. Right?

[AnalBreeze]

My son went with my dad to see this, they both loved it and want to see it again!
My son went as far to say it's his new most favorite superhero film! :eek:

I liked it and will probably sit through it again with my son because Robert Downey Jr. was so damn good!

I still like Spider-Man 2 and X-2 better but this is fuckin' Iron Man....
I expected it to be DareDevil good, I did not expect it to be this good!

[KillBill20]

My son went with my dad to see this, they both loved it and want to see it again!
My son went as far to say it's his new most favorite superhero film! :eek:

I liked it and will probably sit through it again with my son because Robert Downey Jr. was so damn good!

I still like Spider-Man 2 and X-2 better but this is fuckin' Iron Man....
I expected it to be DareDevil good, I did not expect it to be this good!

So lemme get this straight, you expected Iron Man to be as good as Daredevil? I've heard of setting expectations low but, gesh.

I'm officially pulling that card out for the new Hulk film. I don't expect it to be any better than Roger Corman's Fantastic Four film. :D

Oh, and the original lineup was. Ant-Man, Wasp, Thor, Iron Man, and the Hulk. I hate to admit defeat but your right about The Hulk. You goddamn bastard. Captain American didn't come on until a few issues later.

~Kyle

[KillBill20]

I thought the same thing. Your son is wise beyond his years.

And I don't want to single out Swivel because truth be told I like the guy alot and think we'd get along like gangbusters. (same applies to pretty much everyone on this board) But his dripping with realism comment is perplexing to the max.

The last thing I thought about when Stark plummeted a couple 1000ft in his protype suit after escaping his captors was how realistic it was. The suit was shown to be obliterated on impact yet Stark was no worse for wear. There are so many instances that make this film anything but realistic but since I'm tired I don't feel like listing all of'em.

I will say this. Bruce Wayne & Alfred ordering a 100,000+ mini-headset recorders on the accounts of multiple dummy corporations for the sole purpose of distracting corporate types is probably the most realistic thing ever in comic book films. But yeah, Iron Man isn't realistic in the slightest.

You make excellent points my man. I still think it was a kick ass film, but you make valid points. I think, not to speak for anyone, that a good film can take a scene that is down right impossible (Tony Stark building a flying suit that launches him thousands of feet into the air and crashes only to leave unharmed) and present it in a believable way. Iron Man did a really good job of taking a bunch of shit couldn't happen and make it seem like it could.

In the same respect yes, Batman Begins was a fairly realistic film but ultimately its the story of some rich kid who dresses as a bat and fights crime because he seen his parents murdered. Taken out of context that's the stupidest thing you could ever imagine, but its presented in a way that it makes since and seems realistic.

Iron Man did the same thing, in my opinion. Took a stupid impossible story/character and make it seem real. And as for the guards leaving him unattended for months at a time while hes supposed to be building a bomb... that all boils down to movie convenience. You'd be hard pressed to find any film that doesn't have a scene or two that relies on movie convenience.

~Kyle

[AnalBreeze]

I'm just sayin' when Daredevil came out... Who cares? It's Daredevil.
How many fans does he have? 320, 325? but it turned out to be an ok superhero film.
To me Iron Man is the same way, How many Iron Man fans out there? 675, 680?
And how many fans does he have in Afghanistan or Japan?
Well he must have some or this is just a good superhero/action film because
Besides the the 104 million it made here it also brought in another 96 million in other countries!

[Sea Hag]

You make excellent points my man. I still think it was a kick ass film, but you make valid points. I think, not to speak for anyone, that a good film can take a scene that is down right impossible (Tony Stark building a flying suit that launches him thousands of feet into the air and crashes only to leave unharmed) and present it in a believable way. Iron Man did a really good job of taking a bunch of shit couldn't happen and make it seem like it could.

I don't think any film could make said part come across as realistic. And I can look passed that kind of stuff if the film's great.

In the same respect yes, Batman Begins was a fairly realistic film but ultimately its the story of some rich kid who dresses as a bat and fights crime because he seen his parents murdered. Taken out of context that's the stupidest thing you could ever imagine, but its presented in a way that it makes since and seems realistic.

But that rich kid is shown living like a surf in the darkest regions of the planet. (by choice) And I'll tell you what, I think the scene where he takes on 7 dudes in some god forsaken asian prison is a more exciting action sequence than anything Iron Man has to offer. It had intensity, something Iron Man lacked throughout its entire runtime.

Iron Man did the same thing, in my opinion. Took a stupid impossible story/character and make it seem real. And as for the guards leaving him unattended for months at a time while hes supposed to be building a bomb... that all boils down to movie convenience. You'd be hard pressed to find any film that doesn't have a scene or two that relies on movie convenience.

Iron Man didn't feel real to me, at all.

[dop]

Of course Ironman was having his ass handed to him, he was functioning on the shity ARC reactor he built in the cave. Underdogs make bether heroes, thats among other things why Ang Lee's Hulk was shitish, you never feel a threat for Hulk when converted, even when figthing that crap monster his dad turned into 30 minutes too late in the film.

If you think about it wasnt really Pepper Potts who defeated him, it was Tony througth inteligence, Pepper and The AR were just the tools. He was being overpowered and both times overcame by inteligence(taking him so up Obedhia would freeze, Having PP blow up the AR).

An ARC reactor, a fictional device that suplies all the energy for an entire weapons development plant as well as its ofices exploded on Obediah creating a blast you could have seen miles and miles away, Im prety sure thats what killed him.

[Sea Hag]

Of course Ironman was having his ass handed to him, he was functioning on the shity ARC reactor he built in the cave. Underdogs make bether heroes, thats among other things why Ang Lee's Hulk was shitish, you never feel a threat for Hulk when converted, even when figthing that crap monster his dad turned into 30 minutes too late in the film.

If you think about it wasnt really Pepper Potts who defeated him, it was Tony througth inteligence, Pepper and The AR were just the tools. He was being overpowered and both times overcame by inteligence(taking him so up Obedhia would freeze, Having PP blow up the AR).

An ARC reactor, a fictional device that suplies all the energy for an entire weapons development plant as well as its ofices exploded on Obediah creating a blast you could have seen miles and miles away, Im prety sure thats what killed him.


But the Hulk works better as a monster, not a hero. (which is one of the many reasons i'm wary of the new film)

And people can say what they will but some of the most epic and brutal action sequences in comic book film history are when the Hulk fights those dogs and takes on the army in the desert. Epic.

[dop]

The army in the desert thing wile feeling periless was quite esthetically pleasing so ill give you that one as epic but the dog figth scene was lame as fuck...

The dogs were subjected to the same things by daddy Nolte so are suposed to be proportionaly strong to the Hulk yet you dont feel the threat you would feel from a pack of atack dogs(even if one is a Poodle for mediocre humor purposes) atacking a regular man at all, he is ridiculously stronger than them, he just grabs em and tosses em willy nilly, they should at least portrayed em as a bigger threat to Betty....

[Morbid]

Iron Man did the same thing, in my opinion. Took a stupid impossible story/character and make it seem real. And as for the guards leaving him unattended for months at a time while hes supposed to be building a bomb... that all boils down to movie convenience. You'd be hard pressed to find any film that doesn't have a scene or two that relies on movie convenience.

I'm all for movie convenience. This particular incident was movie laziness. They could have replaced any of the two scenes in which the terrorists were watching the camera, or looking through the door peephole, with a scene explaining why there would be no guard (not enough manpower and besides, they had a babysitter in there already...even stark making a comment of not being able to work at gunpoint) as well as explain why they let him have all that shit at his disposal (missiles for gods sake) but there was no fear of him using any of against them. Simple.

But yeah, the falling into the sand unharmed in the suit was not shot to be believable. It was just shot and presented. Again, I have no issues with it, as I am already excepting the fact that one of the most un-aerodynamic thing on the planet, aside from an oak tree, can fly. It's just a few of the scenes that ratcheted the movie below Batman Begins for me.

[dop]

Marvel plans to launch its 2010 film slate with the release of the sequel, Iron Man 2, on April 30, 2010, followed by the launch of Thor on June 4, 2010.

Additionally, Marvel is planting its feature film stakes for summer 2011 with an Avengers-themed summer - a two-picture project which will debut on May 6, 2011 with The First Avenger: Captain America (working title), followed by The Avengers in July 2011.

Source with more interesting shit about Marvel's plans for next few years @ IESB (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=1&article=4822)

[DA Devil's Advocate]

Iron Man originally appeared in 1963. In the comic he was working on weapons his company developed when he stepped on a land mine and was captured by Asian communists. (Vietnamese/Chinese). A piece of shrapnel from the mine lodged near his heart and with the help of his fellow prisoner, Ho Yinsen, a physicist whose work Stark had greatly admired during college, he created the breast plate of the Iron Man armor. Ordered to develop a weapons system for them he created to original gray Iron Man armor, which he used to escape. The second version of the armor, all gold, was worn for 8 issues of “Tales of Suspense” and a number of issues of “The Avengers” before the red and gold version appeared.

http://www.superherostuff.com/iron_man_movie.html

Like most comic book super hero movies Iron Man deviates from the comics. This movie is no exception as it modernizes his origin using terrorists instead of communist as well as a number of other divergences from the comics. But for the most part it remains true to his comic book origin unlike a lot of other hero movies. I left this movie without the “what did they do to _____, that’s not how it happened” disappointment I felt after a number of other hero movies. I think this movie is an excellent tribute to the character, the creators and the fans alike. This is by far the best comic book hero movie to date.

As far as the believability issue goes get real people. This is a comic book movie. None of them are believable and they’re not supposed to be. From the ricocheting bullets that don’t hit bystanders to the bumpers that support cars to the impacts and explosions the heroes walk away from it’s an accepted part of the genre.

nuff’ said.

[swivel]

As far as the believability issue goes get real people. This is a comic book movie. None of them are believable and they’re not supposed to be. From the ricocheting bullets that don’t hit bystanders to the bumpers that support cars to the impacts and explosions the heroes walk away from it’s an accepted part of the genre.

nuff’ said.

Exactly. When I applaud the realism of this movie, it is because it is leaps and bounds above any other comic movie ever made (ignoring the "Road to Perdition" and "V for Vendetta" and "Sin City" style movies).

We have neuvo critics in here wondering how a superhero survived a fall, which is like wondering how our protagonist keeps punching people without breaking their fists. Keep in mind, this is coming from a guy who couldn't extract himself from the nuts of the "Transformers", an all-around shitty film.

What tickled me about talking to Morbid after he got home from the film is that his biggest complaint was Potts taking down Obadiah. The good guy is supposed to beat the bad guy, was his point. Then he tells me that Batman Begins is still his favorite Comicbook movie. You know, the movie were Gordon gets in the Batmobile and takes out the support structures, so all Batman has to do is get out of the way and let someone else have the coup de grace?

No wonder film snobs smell like crap... they talk out of their asses all the damn time!

As for cheese... the first minute of this clip is all you need to know...

YouTube - Batman Begins The Final Confrontation

"If that pressure reaches us, the water supply across the entire city is gonna BLOW!" lol


Morbid's other complaint was that "Ironman was getting his ass kicked the whole time". Watch the above clip to the end to get more gas from his ass.

[CPL CHUD]

I really dug it. I think this could be the best comic book flick to date, that is, untill Dark Knight comes out.....

[Sea Hag]

As far as the believability issue goes get real people. This is a comic book movie. None of them are believable and they’re not supposed to be. From the ricocheting bullets that don’t hit bystanders to the bumpers that support cars to the impacts and explosions the heroes walk away from it’s an accepted part of the genre.

nuff’ said.

Being human, falling a couple 1000 ft, his protype suit obliterated on impact and he walks away no worse for wear is really pushing it though. Still, 10/10 I can look passed such things if the overall film is good. That little snippet is just one thing that stuck out among the 2+ hours of medicority.

[Sea Hag]

Exactly. When I applaud the realism of this movie, it is because it is leaps and bounds above any other comic movie ever made

HAHAHA.

As for cheese... the first minute of this clip is all you need to know...

YouTube - Batman Begins The Final Confrontation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgMLC53DTrQ&feature=related)

The look on Holmes' face when he takes off to save an entire city is the only good piece of acting she did in the entire film. And considering the situation and the most choice score of all comic book flicks blasting in the background shit's epic. If Favreau directed it Bats would probably take off to AC/DC's Hells Bells blasting in the background.


Morbid's other complaint was that "Ironman was getting his ass kicked the whole time". Watch the above clip to the end to get more gas from his ass.

What I see is Bats taking out 4 ninjas, fighting off a deranged mob and a back & forth brawl between him and his former master. (which he ends up winning)

What point were you trying to make again?

[CPL CHUD]

Being human, falling a couple 1000 ft, his protype suit obliterated on impact and he walks away no worse for wear is really pushing it though. Still, 10/10 I can look passed such things if the overall film is good. That little snippet is just one thing that stuck out among the 2+ hours of medicority.

I could of swore he had a broken arm and was being toted around afterwards in a wheel chair. Not exactly totally unscathed.

I'm not even an Iron Man fan, but I think the movie comes off as the best of the lot so far.

[Morbid]

Oh lord. Once again. Swivel has to pick apart a phone conversation. I would say I am shocked, but I'm not. Same old, same old.

I wouldn't even care too much if it weren't for the fact that you either were not listening, or purposely choose to mis-represent what I was saying. I could do the same with you. On how you felt scared when the big, scary, growling Obediah suit was in the dark (already done Robocop 1 AND 2, btw) or that you were on the edge of your seat when his suit iced up for the first time. I WISH that I got that type of reaction from those two scenes, as had I, I too would have been washing the piss out of my jeans while giving the film a 10\10.

You can throw all the scenes from the better film in here all you want, as I never scored Iron Man low because of cheese. Again, these are movies made for kids and grown kids. Cheese is not only expected, it is practically required. But again, I have stated I LIKED Iron Man, you twit. My points of negativity were simply to explain why I liked Batman Begins BETTER.

At no point do I recall saying that I liked Batman Begins better because it was more realistic. Know why? Because I never said that. They are comic book movies for god's sake. I understand you comic fans getting a bigger boner over these films than people who have no clue about their back stories and such. Maybe I would have liked it more. I dunno. But I gave it an 8 out of 10, so quit acting like I anal raped your mother.

And for the final time, I disliked the final confrontation in Iron Man because I was waiting for two Iron Men to come to blows and have a knock-down, drag out fight, and all I got was Iron Man getting his ass kicked (by a man who was in the suit for the FIRST time) and his personal assistant flipping a fucking switch. In which Obediah blows up into a million pieces! Oh wait...that didn't happen. I meant, Obediah falls down. The reason why the Batman Begins ending worked better was because it was filmed better. Either film could have had both subjects get down to the wire with a game of Rock-Paper-Scissors and in the hands of a good director, it could be just as edge of your seat as the final pass through in the trenches of the Death Star. But FOR ME, the final battle of Iron Man was slightly boring and really anti-climatic. Deal with it.

BTW, thanks for posting the clip. The effects were awesome, the showdown was great, the final line of "I wont kill you, but I don't have to save you" was perfectly done in both context and delivery. You helped solidify exactly why Batman Begins was the better film.

[Sea Hag]

I could of swore he had a broken arm and was being toted around afterwards in a wheel chair. Not exactly totally unscathed.

You might be right. Even so he walked away but you know what, just like others have said Iron Man doesn't need to be ultra-realistic. What it needs to be is fun & I just didn't have any. If the action sequences were at least somehwat visceral I'd be singing a slightly different tune.

I'm not even an Iron Man fan, but I think the movie comes off as the best of the lot so far.

You're not alone, & that's insane.

[Morbid]

What I see is Bats taking out 4 ninjas, fighting off a deranged mob and a back & forth brawl between him and his former master. (which he ends up winning)

What point were you trying to make again?

He must have been watching Iron Man again.

[swivel]

I could of swore he had a broken arm and was being toted around afterwards in a wheel chair. Not exactly totally unscathed.

I'm not even an Iron Man fan, but I think the movie comes off as the best of the lot so far.

That's because you are a genius.

Sea Hag was just on the rag for this film. Another viewing and he will give it at least a 6/10.

Morbid's other major complaint was Stark not being under guard. Even though:

1. He was under 24/hour surveillance.
2. Guards were following his progress with their own schematics.
3. The doctor helping him was working for the terrorists.
4. There was a very dramatic torture scene as soon as they noticed something was amiss.
5. The only dangerous substance he had was propellant. No explosives and no bullets.
6. The film coverage was so good, and the viewing guards so anal, that the suiting up of Stark could not be fully concealed, and led to an investigative assault.

Also, the terrorists thought they had their guy beaten. He had a physical ailment. He was NOT Ironman, or any other sort of superhero. As far as they were concerned, he was an engineer, and posed NO THREAT to a camp of men armed heavily enough to take on entire villages and the United States military. Stark had NO WEAPONS and no fighting capability. Morbid is using knowledge of the outcome and hindsight to find a plot hole where there is none. The stupidity here just staggers me. I expect so much more from a guy that LOVED "Transformers" and even said that "300" was a better film than Ironman.

As for SeaHag's biggest complaint, Stark falling from 500ft up, there have been several cases of men falling out of airplanes, landing on flat ground, and walking away. And they didn't have the luxury of wearing armor that was capable of withstanding blows against solid steel strong enough to unhinge those massive doors, or absorb machinegun fire, or punching a man across a room. The kinetic absorption in all of these cases means that Stark had more protection falling from 500ft than other survivors have had while falling from 5,000ft.

My respect for both of these guys has fallen from an even greater distance. These are shitty complaints, and not even internally consistent.

[Sea Hag]

BTW, thanks for posting the clip. The effects were awesome, the showdown was great, the final line of "I wont kill you, but I don't have to save you" was perfectly done in both context and delivery. You helped solidify exactly why Batman Begins was the better film.

I know right. HAHAHAHA.

[Morbid]

That's because you are a genius.

Sea Hag was just on the rag for this film. Another viewing and he will give it at least a 6/10.

Morbid's other major complaint was Stark not being under guard. Even though:

1. He was under 24/hour surveillance.
2. Guards were following his progress with their own schematics.
3. The doctor helping him was working for the terrorists.
4. There was a very dramatic torture scene as soon as they noticed something was amiss.
5. The only dangerous substance he had was propellant. No explosives and no bullets.
6. The film coverage was so good, and the viewing guards so anal, that the suiting up of Stark could not be fully concealed, and led to an investigative assault.

Also, the terrorists thought they had their guy beaten. He had a physical ailment. He was NOT Ironman, or any other sort of superhero. As far as they were concerned, he was an engineer, and posed NO THREAT to a camp of men armed heavily enough to take on entire villages and the United States military. Stark had NO WEAPONS and no fighting capability. Morbid is using knowledge of the outcome and hindsight to find a plot hole where there is none. The stupidity here just staggers me. I expect so much more from a guy that LOVED "Transformers" and even said that "300" was a better film than Ironman.

As for SeaHag's biggest complaint, Stark falling from 500ft up, there have been several cases of men falling out of airplanes, landing on flat ground, and walking away. And they didn't have the luxury of wearing armor that was capable of withstanding blows against solid steel strong enough to unhinge those massive doors, or absorb machinegun fire, or punching a man across a room. The kinetic absorption in all of these cases means that Stark had more protection falling from 500ft than other survivors have had while falling from 5,000ft.

My respect for both of these guys has fallen from an even greater distance. These are shitty complaints, and not even internally consistent.

LOL! You are actually explaining away those two movie conveniences??? lol! Fanboy.

[swivel]

LOL! You are actually explaining away those two movie conveniences??? lol! Fanboy.

Yes, I am a fanboy. This is one of my favorite comic characters of all time. As a geek, growing up, I latched onto the superheroes that had, as their greatest asset, their wit. Favorite comicbook characters:

Ironman, Batman, Hank Pym, The Vision, Punisher, Mr. Fantastic, and Daredevil. Even my favorite guys with great power had great geek-appeal, like Doctor Strange and Spiderman.

Sorry to defuse your put-down. And the explaining away wasn't even really needed, I just wanted you to see how fucking stupid you were to make this the cornerstone of your bashing the film.

I also love that you bashed this film for having the superhero get his ass kicked, while a bit character killed the bad guy. I think you forgot how Batman Begins ended, since you got really quiet on the phone after I pointed out your hypocrisy/ignorance.

"It is my actions which define me" :confused: So fucking cheese. And you think the end was "better filmed"? Go look at how bad the effects were of that train crashing through the parking deck. It looks like something you and I would have put together. Die Hard did it better 10 years ago.

Of course, we are all entitled to our opinions, but I can back mine up. Your opinions contradict yourself and are not supported by any facts or observations. You are making yourself look like an uneducated moron.

Maybe you need to get some outside help for your ScreaminDemon work?

[KillBill20]

::slowly backs away from thread::

~Kyle

[Morbid]

Seriously. Your admission to being an Iron Man fanboy is all I needed to hear. I am a fan of movies in general. I have no favorite super hero. You do. That explains a lot and why you love this movie so much. And btw, as this thread indicates, YOU took objections to me disliking portions of the movie. This never started because of me taking objections to you liking those same parts.

I didn't care one way or the other. YOU did.

[swivel]

Seriously. Your admission to being an Iron Man fanboy is all I needed to hear.

Doesn't make your objections any less silly, nor my refutation of them any less solid.

Usually fanboys are sitting ducks... crazy that you just got owned by a self-admitted one.

[Morbid]

Doesn't make your objections any less silly, nor my refutation of them any less solid.

Yes it does.

Usually fanboys are sitting ducks... crazy that you just got owned by a self-admitted one.

You use the term sitting ducks, I use something else. No matter, swivel, you liked the movie more than I did. It will be ok. I promise.

[impqueen]

I'm the only one here besides swivel who wants to see Robert Downey, Jr. naked, aren't i?

C'mon, swivel. I bet we can find a pictorial left over from Less Than Zero.

[swivel]

You use the term sitting ducks, I use something else. No matter, swivel, you liked the movie more than I did. It will be ok. I promise.

I'm fine with it too. You can give it a 5.5 if you like. I just wish you had reasons that didn't contradict other things you have said. Hell, I wish you had a reason that makes sense.

You'd be better off just saying it was a 7/10 and nothing else. I can't argue with your opinion, nor your rating system, but when you start giving silly examples you open yourself up to humiliation.

God help you when people start reading your ScreaminDemon posts. They may not be as kind as I have been here. This was more of a love-spanking than anything else. I can tell that I hurt your feelings, but I really didn't mean to. It is so rare to see you resort to ad-homs, and a kefka-esque ability to quote more than you respond with. I almost feel bad for roughing you up accidentally.

I guess my mistake was assuming you could handle a bit of disagreement. My bad.

[Morbid]

I'm fine with it too. You can give it a 5.5 if you like. I just wish you had reasons that didn't contradict other things you have said. Hell, I wish you had a reason that makes sense.

You'd be better off just saying it was a 7/10 and nothing else. I can't argue with your opinion, nor your rating system, but when you start giving silly examples you open yourself up to humiliation.

God help you when people start reading your ScreaminDemon posts. They may not be as kind as I have been here. This was more of a love-spanking than anything else. I can tell that I hurt your feelings, but I really didn't mean to. It is so rare to see you resort to ad-homs, and a kefka-esque ability to quote more than you respond with. I almost feel bad for roughing you up accidentally.

I guess my mistake was assuming you could handle a bit of disagreement. My bad.

I have no issues with disagreement and you know it. This entire debacle started because YOU disagreed with ME. lol! Seriously, whatever. You LOVED the movie. It was the bees knees and what-not. Good for you. I'm happy.

[KillBill20]

YouTube - IRON MAN MOVIE REVIEW

~Kyle

[swivel]

Thanks for the video review. Looks like the dude agreed with Sea Hag and gave it a 5.

[KillBill20]

Thanks for the video review. Looks like the dude agreed with Sea Hag and gave it a 5.

Technically.... it was a 5.5 :D

~Kyle

[swivel]

Technically.... it was a 5.5 :D

~Kyle

Don't ruin my joke. ;)

[KillBill20]

Don't ruin my joke. ;)

Well thats my job here on the website. To ruin things and divert threads severely off topic.

Was anyone else kinda sorta disappointed that Clint Howard didn't have a cameo as one of Tony Starks scientists?

http://www.badmovies.org/movies/wraith/wraith1.jpg

Okay! The first one to Dragonfire Crossing wins! You lose the race, you lose your car! Ready! Set! GO!

Christ... I know what movie I'm going to cover next...

~Kyle

[CPL CHUD]

The Wraith is grade A 80's cheese. I used to love it as a kid.

[KillBill20]

The Wraith is grade A 80's cheese. I used to love it as a kid.

As far as cheesy movies go, The Wraith has to rank someplace in the top 10. I'm glad to see someone else on here enjoys the movie as much as I do :D

~Kyle

[Sea Hag]

Usually fanboys are sitting ducks... crazy that you just got owned by a self-admitted one.

Morbid hasn't had to own you. You've been doing that to yourself with such cringe-inducing gems such as these:

Just got back from the 10:00 am showing.

Best. Comic. Movie. Ever.

Isn't even close, really. Much better than my former favorite, Batman Begins.



Exactly. When I applaud the realism of this movie, it is because it is leaps and bounds above any other comic movie ever made (ignoring the "Road to Perdition" and "V for Vendetta" and "Sin City" style movies).


Morbid's other complaint was that "Ironman was getting his ass kicked the whole time". Watch the above clip to the end to get more gas from his ass.

[Sea Hag]

YouTube - IRON MAN MOVIE REVIEW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNu2uMcAyZw)

~Kyle

That guy is horrible. Watch his Mist review.

[swivel]

Morbid hasn't had to own you. You've been doing that to yourself with such cringe-inducing gems such as these:

I see no problem with those quotes.

And I certainly don't need chastisement from someone who gives this movie a 5.5/10. That was so crazy I've had to assume you are just trolling, and ignore you.

[KillBill20]

That guy is horrible. Watch his Mist review.


It was a lot like your review of Iron Man, full of shit :D

~Kyle

[CPL CHUD]

Yeah that's a pretty wild score. It's average score on Rotten Tomatos is 94%. I'd rate it a little bit lower, but not much.

I don't really even dig the Iron Man comic, I think I own a grand total of two issues, and walked away from the theater smiling. Everyone I went with went in expecting mediocrity and left pleased. I mean, we aren't talking about a superhero as instantly recognizable as Superman, Spiderman, and Batman. I never seen this character as an icon, but people are really digging it. It's like the quality of the movie is carrying the praise rather than the insant recognition and fanboy appeal of the comic, which is awesome.

[Sea Hag]

I see no problem with those quotes.

Owned again!

And I certainly don't need chastisement from someone who gives this movie a 5.5/10. That was so crazy I've had to assume you are just trolling, and ignore you.

In a 1-10 rating system 5.5/10 is far from a horrible rating. It's in the mediocrity range which is appropriate for Favreau's uninspired film.

[Sea Hag]

It was a lot like your review of Iron Man, full of shit :D

~Kyle

Did I say I hated Iron Man more than any film in the last 10 years?

But yeah, using that guy as some sort of reference for validation is pointless.

[swivel]

In a 1-10 rating system 5.5/10 is far from a horrible rating. It's in the mediocrity range which is appropriate for Favreau's uninspired film.

You put this film equidistant from perfection and total crap? I just can't respect your opinions on film ever again. Not that you should care what I think about what you think... just so you don't wonder why I'm not engaging with you in a debate.

[Sea Hag]

You put this film equidistant from perfection and total crap?

Yes.

I just can't respect your opinions on film ever again.. Not that you should care what I think about what you think... just so you don't wonder why I'm not engaging with you in a debate.

There's no debate to be had. Batman Begins is factually better than Iron Man.

[Morbid]

There's no debate to be had. Batman Begins is factually better than Iron Man.

It really is. Once the afterglow of watching the movie wears off, he'll come to his senses.

[CPL CHUD]

Well Batman Begins does have ninjas........

[swivel]

There's no debate to be had. Batman Begins is factually better than Iron Man.

Oh. So that is some objective truth?

You need to take some lessons from me on how to hide your trolling. You can't just jump up on the bridge and wave your arms around... your argument has to be a notch above nonsensical.

My opinion is that Ironman is better than Batman Begins. No Katie Holmes, for one thing. Less cheese (far, far, far less). A better final battle (the training fight was better than the climatic fight, without question). More realism (I can buy falling from 500ft in heavy armor more than I can curling the dead weight of another human being with one arm).

[Sea Hag]

Oh. So that is some objective truth?

Yes.

You need to take some lessons from me on how to hide your trolling. You can't just jump up on the bridge and wave your arms around... your argument has to be a notch above nonsensical.

My opinion is that Ironman is better than Batman Begins. No Katie Holmes, for one thing. Less cheese (far, far, far less). A better final battle (the training fight was better than the climatic fight, without question). More realism (I can buy falling from 500ft in heavy armor more than I can curling the dead weight of another human being with one arm).

While I don't understand the across the board love this film is getting if people just said they loved it instead of saying something totally outlandish & wrong like it's a far better film than Begins, let alone even on par with it, I'd have just expressed why I didn't like it and moved on.

Begins has better acting even with Holmes, (the only weak link in the entire film) better villains, better action sequences, (i'll take the tumbler chase, bats saving an entire city, fighting off ninjas and besting his former master over 1 or 2 cool little snippets within an entire sequence or a 7 minute uninspired climax that culminates with Paltrow turning on a microwave) better execution, more emotion, better score, it's just the better film, period.

And to say that when the story goes back to Gotham that the film shifts towards Burton zaniness proves that you suck at watching movies. It's just not true in the slightest. (you're reaching bra) As for saying you can buy someone falling 500ft (when in actuality it was much higher than that) over someone whose trained on a goddamn mountain with ninjas for years lifting a human with one arm during a life & death situation, (with what was established in the story already why even question such a thing? and better yet, why question that when our bodies contain this thing called adrenaline?) hahaha, that's just silly.

But hey, if something like Iron Man's suit icing up while he's flying towards the earth's stratosphere (which was done already in the hulk) gives you chills then rock on with your mediocre movie loving self. In a way I'm kind of envious. If only I was so easily enthralled.

[swivel]

While I don't understand the across the board love this film is getting if people just said they loved it instead of saying something totally outlandish & wrong like it's a far better film than Begins, let alone even on par with it, I'd have just expressed why I didn't like it and moved on.

People love it because it is a great film. Begins didn't get this attention when it came out because it is the inferior product.

As much as I love Bale, his voice, while portraying Batman, was ridiculous. It was stilted and corny. And the dialog was just cringe-inducing at times.

The worst dialog moment in Ironman, for me, was when Stark said, "Yeah, I can fly" to no one in particular. Only time that I felt stirred from my state of suspension-disbelief.

In Begins, while I loved the movie for saving it from the previous two, I had several moments where I had to roll my eyes. Especially Gordon teaching himself to drive the Batmobile. Oh, and the Batmobile was just horrible in Begins.

Don't get me wrong, I would give Begins an 8/10 for comic movies, but Ironman was a perfect score for me, so there is room between the two for another notch of goodness. Hell, I would easily rank the last Hulk flick right up there with Begins. Maybe Spiderman 2 would be a 9.

[Sea Hag]

People love it because it is a great film. Begins didn't get this attention when it came out because it is the inferior product.

That's just silly. I'm a self-professed movie geek and I went to see Begins on almost a lark. The marketing wasn't nearly as saturating as Marvel's first self-financed film and I went into it not expecting anything. It turned out to be one of my all-time great theater going experiences. Shit just came out of seemingly nowhere and kicked my ass. Afterwards I told my friend he had to see this incredible film and he was like "there's a new batman film out?"

It's quality is one of the main reasons why The Dark Knight is going to make the most money this summer.

As much as I love Bale, his voice, while portraying Batman, was ridiculous. It was stilted and corny. And the dialog was just cringe-inducing at times.

I can see that. But I can also see why he does it & I'm not bothered by it at all.

The worst dialog moment in Ironman, for me, was when Stark said, "Yeah, I can fly" to no one in particular. Only time that I felt stirred from my state of suspension-disbelief.

The suspension of disbelief element isn't my main gripe. It's middle of the roadness is.

In Begins, while I loved the movie for saving it from the previous two, I had several moments where I had to roll my eyes. Especially Gordon teaching himself to drive the Batmobile.

It walked a fine line but I think Nolan handled it just right. If he backed up through a building or something & belted out a one-liner I'd probably agree with you.

Oh, and the Batmobile was just horrible in Begins.

What planet are you from? That thing is a freaking fully functional beast.

Don't get me wrong, I would give Begins an 8/10 for comic movies, but Ironman was a perfect score for me, so there is room between the two for another notch of goodness. Hell, I would easily rank the last Hulk flick right up there with Begins. Maybe Spiderman 2 would be a 9.

It's just so far above all other superhero films. Really, it is.

And I used to love the Spidey flicks, specifically the 2nd one, but I can't watch'em anymore. Everything dealing with Parker & MJ's relationship (which seemingly takes up more than 1/2 of each films runtime) just bogs everything down.

[Horrorholic]

And I used to love the Spidey flicks, specifically the 2nd one, but I can't watch'em anymore. Everything dealing with Parker & MJ's relationship (which seemingly takes up more than 1/2 of each films runtime) just bogs everything down.
Pretty interesting you say that because that's exactly why I like those flicks so much. Except for part 3. Dear God. Everyone was asleep at the wheel for that one. Woof.

[Hippiepoet]

OMG I was going to tell you guys something about my little boy loving this movie, but after reading all this playful banter between SOME of you guys, goddammit, suddenly I feel all hot and bothered. Really boys.......that is so hot! Now kiss and make up.:D










PS Who would have ever thought the Iron Man movie thread could make a girl so horny.:p

[KillBill20]

This is why they make chocolate and vanilla ... because you like shitty ice cream.

Personally here is why I loved the film.

Pace: It kept a solid pace throughout. There was never a moment that felt like it should have been left on the cutting room floor. Every scene had a reason and a purpose. It kept a pretty solid pace throughout, where even thought it wasn't action scene after action scene, things felt natural. Nothing was rushed and nothing was forced. That also leads to what was the films biggest flaw. They spent a little to much time after Stark got back home where he was just building the suit. I'd have loved it if they chopped that scene in half and added another action bit in there. Realistically... it didn't take to much away from the overall pace of things, because everything fit together so well.

Flow: Using Transformers as an example you can really tell that that movie wanted to be funny, and have action, and have romance. And it was literally done in such a way that each scene smack you in the face and says THIS IS AN ACTION SCENE, ENJOY IT BITCHES! Then they'll follow it with a scene thats obviously meant to be the humorous opposite of what was directly before it. Now... they're is nothing really wrong with that, its a formula that a lot of action movies follow, some worse than others... but to me Iron Man did it in a way where it didn't feel like it was was blocked off into chunks of comedy, then action, then drama. Everything flowed together nicely. Tony Stark can make smart ass comments in the middle of a action scene and not have it seem out of place or forced. I really dug how it all came together.

Visually: Visually the movie was a blast. The CGI was top notch. And they didn't use it just for the sake of using it (Speed Racer... I'm looking in your direction!). Every location was interesting, from the desert scenes to Stark Industries to his house. It was all fun to look at.

Acting: The acting in Iron Man was to notch. Robert Downey Jr IS Tony Stark. There is not another actor on the face of the earth who could have pulled this character off the way he did. Gwyneth Paltrow, whom I honestly could have cared less about before this film, did great as Pepper Potts. She has really good on screen chemistry with Robert Downey Jr. Jeff Bridges is great, as usual.

Interesting side note, both Tom Cruise and Nicolas Cage were in talks of playing Tony Stark at one point or another. Could you imagine Tom Cruise playing Iron Man? I'd rather not...

Realistic Approach to an Unrealistic Premise: We do realize that we're watching a comic book film here right? Iron Man did a good job of taking an unrealistic premise and making it believable. There is nothing, absolutely nothing in Iron Man that is any worse than any other comic film (hell action film) out there.

Batman is about a guy who dresses as a bat and fights crime. I don't care if he lived on a mountain and trained for years. You show me a guy who dresses as a bat in his spare time and I'll show you a future mental patient. Or how about a guy who mutates into a gigantic green monster when he gets pissed off? Better yet how about a blind guy who fights crime? I mean come on... none of this stuff is "realistic". But all these movies have taken a realistic approach to what has been presented in front of them and made it seem possible. I can only speak for myself, but when I say "Iron Man was realistic" I'm not talking about the same kind of realism that comes with films like "Saving Private Ryan". What I simply meant as that they did a good job of making everything believable. As believable as a comic book movie could be.

Because honestly... would anyone be able to survive a 600 foot fall? Fuck no. But its a movie. None of this shit could ever happen. Ever. Not Batman. Not Superman. Not Iron Man. Not The Hulk. Not Daredevil. Not Hellboy. Nothing from Sin City, Transformers, Die Hard, Robocop, The Terminator, Aliens, Predator, Halloween, The Mist, Cloverfield, From Dusk Till Dawn, Childs Play, Death Proof, Vanishing Point (well maybe Vanishing Point), X-Men, Rambo, Rocky, and motherfucking Knocked Up wouldn't even happen the way it does on the screen. But you know what I've never once heard someone say "You know Halloween was a really good movie... but you know that scene at the very end of the movie? The one where Michael Myers is shot and falls out the window. Then a moment later is gone. Yea... that'd never happen, therefore its going from a 10 star film to about a 6 or 7. That ending was so unrealistic!"

Movies aren't made to be realistic. They're made to be a better, more interesting version of realistic. If you cannot suspend disbelief for an hour and a half of your day and understand why Iron Man did one hell of a good job in making it seem like a guy really could fly around in a stupid metal suit and fight crime.... we'll I really feel sorry for you.

And for the record, I'm not even that big of a fan of the comic. I don't own a single Iron Man comic. So I have no previous "fanboy" attachments to the franchise. I just really like the movie, and think everyone should go see it.

I also can't wait to go see The Dark Knight, I'm sure that'll be a 10 star film as well.

Also... this needs to be posted as well:

YouTube - IRON MAN VS. THE DARK KNIGHT

~Kyle

[dop]

This is the second best hold for a movie based on a Marvel Comics character after Spider-Man six years ago, compared to previous Marvel-based films that have faced second weekend drops of 52% or more. With a total gross of $177 million, Iron Man is already on the outskirts of becoming one of the top 10 superhero movies ever after just 10 and a half days. Full Article (http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7190)

Not bad if you compare Spiderman's name value vs Ironman's before this movie.

[swivel]

Full Article (http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=7190)

Not bad if you compare Spiderman's name value vs Ironman's before this movie.

I think word-of-mouth, repeat viewers, and little competition is really fueling this.

[KillBill20]

I know I went to see the movie again tonight. I very rarely see a movie twice in theaters but to me Iron Man was worth it. I enjoyed it just as much the second time around as the first...



~Kyle

[swivel]

I know I went to see the movie again tonight. I very rarely see a movie twice in theaters but to me Iron Man was worth it. I enjoyed it just as much the second time around as the first...



~Kyle

I've been dying to go again, and I never feel that urge.

[dop]

Im not much of a double dipper myselve, 3 times have I gone and Id gladly go a fourth if someone wants company to see it.

I must confess I had a terrible time the third viewing but I was watching it dubed in a kid packed theater with a leak over my jacket... I would have hated anything under those conditions.

Im prety sure I would enjoy it a fourth time under proper theater going circumstances. after all, i need to see Captain America's shield, no?

[KillBill20]

I must confess I had a terrible time the third viewing but I was watching it dubed in a kid packed theater with a leak over my jacket... I would have hated anything under those conditions.

Thats the wort part about seeing these big movies. If you happen to hit the wrong showing you can end up in a theater full of little kids who won't shut the fuck up.

~Kyle

[dop]

Yea, damn kids. The one good thing besides the comparativley dirt cheap prices about the cinema here in mexico is going to a kid friendly movie but with subtitles instead of dubed in spanish often does filter out the kids.

But then you have asshole selfish parents like the one I was stuck yesterday during Speed Racer that have no consideration for either their kids or other movie goers and take their kids that obiously cant read at subded movie speeds to this showings instead of the dubed ones, then the kids start asking frenetically about the plot they cant understand, gets bored of that during mid film and start runing througth the hallways making car noises instead with his dad triing to ignore him just as much as the rest of us instead of paying the proper atention to him...

This one viewing of ironman I went to the dubed one because I was going with a friend that insisted on that. Fuck no, I wont ever do that again.