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Athena
July 22nd, 2008, 01:27 PM
For some time now, sites like MySpace and Facebook have been used by organizations for everything from determining employment viability to foiling school bombing plots. Increasingly, however, they've become a useful tool in yet another field - Criminal prosecution.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words, and I'd be inclined to agree. This is nothing new to folks here at D'D; we commonly scour MySpace pages to get an impression of alleged criminals and their associates. It doesn't matter how many buddies stop by to tell us what a great person neglectful parents X is and how we don't know the whole story, if we've got access to pictures depicting the person in question as less than tasteful, that's really all we need to know.

This was the case with Joshua Lipton, a 20 year old Rhode Island boy who, while driving drunk, caused a crash that severely injured a 20 year old woman, leaving her hospitalized for weeks. I'm sure Mr. Lipton collected all sorts of character statements from family and friends who asserted that he was a good kid who was momentarily impared by bad judgment. He just made a mistake, right?

Problem is, none of that means a goddamn thing in light of pictures like this, taken at a Halloween party he attended while out on bail:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/CRIME/07/18/facebook.evidence.ap/art.jailbird.jpg

Yep, the kid may as well have "Unrepentant Douchebag" jail-tatted on his retarded tongue. I mean, seriously, not only does this picture show him partying it up, presumably drunk, while his victim lies recovering in the hospital, he mocks his potential punishment by donning a jail bird costume.

Idiot.

Incidentally, the prosecutor and the judge agreed. While Mr. Lipton might have been granted probation (which is bullshit in and of itself, but I digress), the judge instead thought it best to give this brat 2 years worth of a time out.

This CNN article (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/18/facebook.evidence.ap/index.html) outlines a few other stories of people retarded enough to implicate themselves via social networking sites after committing a crime. It's worth a read. I had a chuckle.

Mandella
July 28th, 2008, 01:17 PM
When I first read the headline of this, I got a little scared. I can see where it would be useful, for sure...but then I think of some of the clean and tidy myspaces I've seen for people who were.....well, way less than clean and tidy.

And I think of my friends who are absolutely insane and ridiculous and weird on their pages, but in all reality are really just normal people with a twisted sense of humor on-line.

And then I think of all the pictures I have of me partying. Seems like I don't carry a camera around when I do normal things. It's always at the partay.

Oh well. Yeah, everything counts. This is the real world. EVERYWHERE.

Athena
July 28th, 2008, 04:08 PM
There are definitely some concerns. I certainly wouldn't want to be judged solely on my MySpace page contents, for example. When creating or updating it, I don't really think, "What would my employer think?" or "What would a jury think?" Christ...If I had to abide by those considerations, life would be fairly bland. But my "internet personality" is definitely a compromise. Because I don't want to hassle with anonymity, I don't exactly let my freak flag fly. This version is definitely a toned-down version.

That being said, I haven't yet read a case where a person's MySpace or Facebook page has been used by the prosecution to generally demonize an individual. The people in the article posted were retarded, and their pages (or friends' pages) illustrated them behaving in a way that specifically spoke to a lack of remorse following a crime. That, to me, is a no-brainer, and I'm kind of glad that these prosecutors are starting to look for this stuff. All these people would have likely gotten much lighter sentences, otherwise.

Gilbrit
July 28th, 2008, 04:43 PM
Social Networking sites are open to the public and can be used in any way once the publish button is hit. There is protection from people using your posted information but no protection from others using the posted information against you.
When in doubt as to what should or should not be posted, default to the below.

Kinda like the saying "Don't say anything you wouldn't want repeated."

Mandella
July 28th, 2008, 04:51 PM
The people in the article posted were retarded, and their pages (or friends' pages) illustrated them behaving in a way that specifically spoke to a lack of remorse following a crime. That, to me, is a no-brainer, and I'm kind of glad that these prosecutors are starting to look for this stuff. All these people would have likely gotten much lighter sentences, otherwise.

I am definitely with you on that. I am glad this little douchebag got busted out. I am also still a little leary of the thought of surveilance, I guess. And that's what this feels like. Y'know? It's just creepy. But, yes, Amen that it's working in the good guys' favor for the time being.




Kinda like the saying "Don't say anything you wouldn't want repeated."

I agree. I also like the saying "There's no shame in my game."

Even if I've behaved a fool or fucked up(online or otherwise), I care not. That's me, it's who I am, and I'm a growing and dynamic individual who has no time for regret. If someone wants to use my internet profile, of all things, against me in a court of law, I guess that's their prerogative.

Shadow
July 28th, 2008, 04:53 PM
i don't have a myspace or facebook account for that reason.. if i'm going to do something stupid...i don't want them to be able to pull my online info and go 'look, she has a history'..


~ceisdsgil

Dakota Valkyrie
July 28th, 2008, 09:57 PM
Even without MySpace, this clown did what he did and let someone take a picture of it. Even without a picture, there were witnesses. The only way to prevent things from getting into the ears, eyes, minds, etc. of others is not do them.

"Don't do the crime if you can't do the time" concept applies to many things beyond the literal.

Even if I'm 100% sure I'm all alone when I do something stupid, there's no guarantee that the world won't find out. I have a big mouth and enjoy a good laugh at may own expense... even if it returns later to bite me in the butt.