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swivel
July 25th, 2007, 12:00 PM
Here's the video in HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22702.html)

Now, this is by far the most-hyped game on the PS3. It is one of the few exclusives that Sony still has (the few exclusives left are mostly in-house games). Even though there are rumors about a 360 version, THIS is the game that Sony fanboys are clinging to the most. Their hopes and dreams hinge on the success of this single game.

After watching the video... ...um...

I'm not impressed. The graphics aren't just miles away from the E3 promos of the last 2 years, they aren't even as good as Assassins Creed, Gears of War or COD4.

Some of the animation is great, like dropping from the ledge, and the fighting from Snake's back, but other animation is pathetic. The sneaking is stiff and repetitive, the AI characters look mildly better than the PS1 guys, and the Hiding-In-The-Can routine was laughable. I had a hard time with the cardboard box from MGS, they really should have gotten away from that crap.

The gameplay mechanics look pretty bad as well. Why orchestrate these involved battle scenes that are supposed to be frantic and hectic, and then have every gun-swap result in a GAME PAUSE as you fly through menus? This is the same menu bullshit from the PS1 game. Aren't we next-gen yet!? Do we really need the exclamation points circling the passed-out soldiers? Why not have their bodies rise and fall with their breathing, so the next-gen graphics can clue us into their status?

Very lame. And the mystery inventory space is lame as well. I like the new fashion of only carrying a few weapons at a time. Much more realistic.

I have a feeling that MGS4 and Halo3 are not going to be the games that the console-specific fanboys want them to be. Games like COD4 and Assassins Creed are going to be better. But the hype will give the former, inferior games higher scores, and the fanboys will play the hell out of tired, old franchises because that's what fanboys do.

People tend to forget that the reason we loved MGS on the PS1 and Halo on the XBox was because they were NEW, ORIGINAL, FRESH. There are games like this on the horizon, but we will ignore them in a frenzy of sequel-itis. And that is a shame.

CPL CHUD
July 26th, 2007, 11:51 AM
I thought it looked pretty cool, but I agree about the menu pause. It kind of kills the sense of urgency in battle.

Killroy
July 26th, 2007, 12:13 PM
I agree with everything you posted...but I had to add...did anyone else think that what they showed was about as gay as a game can get?

Not counting him holding on to the dick of a statue, but the extreme shots of a 60-year-old ass, the strange way he choked out that guy and the uncomfortable shot of him crawling on his belly while his ass arched up in the air? Seriously, in the short amount of game play shown, that's a lot of homo-eroticism.

Killroy
July 26th, 2007, 12:20 PM
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/4562/20070725201920copyfm6.jpg

As my screenshot shows, he is not hiding the dick of the statue...he is fucking CLUTCHING it! WTF??

swivel
July 26th, 2007, 03:33 PM
Dude, his name is SOLID SNAKE! :eek:

CPL CHUD
July 26th, 2007, 03:57 PM
Haha....come to think of it that demo was very homoerotic. I think the series as a whole is really over rated as well. The last game felt more like I was watching a b-rated spy flick rather than actually playing a game. Too many cut scenes and one convulted storyline really mucked things up.

In any case I can hardly justify plunking down the dough for a PS3 for this game, especially since it looks like all the really innovative games are coming out on XBOX 360.

AnalBreeze
July 26th, 2007, 04:12 PM
I think it looks pretty cool but why he'd be clutching that penis is beyond me!

swivel
July 26th, 2007, 04:28 PM
I think it looks pretty cool but why he'd be clutching that penis is beyond me!

So he doesn't fall off the platform, silly!

Killroy
July 26th, 2007, 04:34 PM
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9193/20070725203146copypt9.jpg

Here's another question...while I understand that they may have wanted to go a different route and use a skin tight suit for Snake, and I even though I question the decision to use the inch worm technique instead of the tried-and-true "army crawl"...why use both the skin tight suit, the inch worm movement, and the deliberate shading of an asshole?

Have fun looking at that while you play!

Killroy
July 26th, 2007, 06:59 PM
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6519/browneyery9.gif

swivel
July 26th, 2007, 07:01 PM
Bwwwwaaaahhhahhhaaaahhahahhaaaahhhahahaa!!!!!!!!!


Omfg!

kakihara
July 26th, 2007, 07:16 PM
Uhhhhh...Is he jerking the guy off that he sticks up as well?

He does have a gay pornstar mustache in this one.

Killroy
July 26th, 2007, 07:27 PM
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9375/jocy9.gif

swivel
July 26th, 2007, 07:48 PM
Killroy, you need a DreaminDemon.com watermark on those.

kakihara
July 26th, 2007, 08:41 PM
BWWWWAAAAHHHAHHHAAAAHHAHAHHAAAAHHHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!

Don't forget to cup the balls.

swivel
July 26th, 2007, 09:47 PM
Well, I'm not the only pundit slamming MGS4. Lookie here. (http://www.deeko.com/readfeature.asp?id=104)

MGS is a franchise that one does not just step into blindly, but it seems many new PS3 owners are doing just that. Out of the wood work we seem to have a burgeoning crowd of would be hardcore MGS gamers, who have little to no clue on the series roots. Blindly following the hype train on the title due to the simple fact that it's a PS3 exclusive. To further stress my point, MGS3 was a substantially lesser retail hit for the PS2 than it's previous effort in the franchise. While many new PS2 owners tried to jump into the long running series, it proved too much for some. The MGS world is not one that is easily accessible for newbies, featuring a winding and abstruse story line that is even difficult for fans of the series to get a hold of... it's just too much. I do not see MGS4 being an entry point of bringing any new gamers to the series. Sure, there's still going to be people purchasing it to justify the price point of their new fangled Blu-ray player, but with a new generation of gamers that are more prone to new, simplified experiences than anything...where does MGS4 fit in?

In the end, MGS4 is in many ways just an evolutionary step to the already established franchise. Still painstakingly living in a world of 20 minute cut-scenes, labyrinthine story telling and archaic game-play that while once fresh and new has grown stagnant and stale. While beautiful graphics will draw most gamers in, I find it rare the gamer that will reap anything truly new from what Kojima is once again bringing to the table. If you loved Metal Gear Solid and it's sequels than MGS4 is a sure fire bet for you. But for the rest of us who were hoping for something new, different and mind blowing to once again excite us about the franchise, it's just the same game with a new wrapper.

His first two sentences display an odd choice of words, don't you think so, Morbid?

Well we've finally all gotten to witness MGS4 in action. The majority of the press is fully erect and sucking on the proverbial tit of Kojima's latest endeavor.

Seriously, that is how his article starts. He doesn't know it, but the homo-erotic nature of the demo has him subconsciously spouting abject gayness. Un-fuckin-real.

Killroy
July 26th, 2007, 10:21 PM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8689/ddjokn2.gif

swivel
July 26th, 2007, 10:25 PM
http://www.xboxaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80388

swivel
July 26th, 2007, 11:32 PM
I posted a thread at the official Playstation forum and it had a dozen IMMEDIATE responses and then it was deleted.

I didn't even get the animated hand-job pic up yet! It was all the in-game captures you did. So, Sony is embarrassed by the content of their MOST IMPORTANT exclusive!

I think everyone should go register and start a similar thread, and complain when they are taken down.

CPL CHUD
July 27th, 2007, 11:17 AM
I just posted there. Check it out before they stomp it.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=mgs&thread.id=175685&page=24

swivel
July 27th, 2007, 03:07 PM
I just posted there. Check it out before they stomp it.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=mgs&thread.id=175685&page=24

Nice post. I replied. I posted the same sort of thing last night and the thread was deleted.

swivel
July 27th, 2007, 03:11 PM
Chud, get in on this thread with me as well:

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=mgs&message.id=190245#M190245