Deke Suri Accused Of Trying To Kill His 4 Kids With Sleeping Pills Before Popping 40

[Whisper]

Attempted homicide charges in sleeping pills case
Oneida man allegedly gave four children pills

TOWN OF ONEIDA - A 36-year-old Town of Oneida man has been charged after police say he gave his four children sleeping pills last week.

Deke Suri faces a total of eight charges, including four first-degree attempted intentional homicide charges and four child abuse charges with intentional cause of great harm.
Oneida police say the man was trying to also hurt himself, taking about 40 pills. Authorities said he gave some to each of his children but would not specify how many.

Officials say in a police interview, the father said he did not want his children to see him buried. He also said he was depressed and having marital problems.
[....]http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/Homicide-charges-in-sleeping-pills-case
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Deke Suri

[Valasca]

Why don't these assholes ever get it right while trying to kill themselves? Lots of pills over several hours and then a bag over the head.
Glad the kids are okay.

[62julietandvoid]

Sorry their dad had to do that but at least the kids lived :five: sometimes, failure is good.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Lucky for the kids that what he gave them was not a prescription sleeping pill.

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The mother of Suri’s children told police she talked to Suri on the phone and he said he was going to poison the children, a search warrant affidavit says. While en route to Suri’s Sandhill Court home, police took a 911 call from Suri requesting rescue.

Suri told police he gave each of his children —- ages 5, 7, 10 and 11 — three sleeping pills and took the rest of the medication himself. He said he took the pills because his wife left him.

All four children were taken to a hospital for medical evaluation. The children didn’t appear to suffer serious injury, police said last week.

His wife said Suri told her this would be “a Christmas he’d never forget.” She asked what he was going to do and he said, “You’ll find out,” the affidavit says.

While serving the search warrant, police took a journal that belonged to Suri and a pill bottle with “Rapid Sleep PM” on the label.

The bottle was empty.
http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20101228/APC0101/101228076/Charges-expected-in-sleeping-pill-incident

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000256480950&v=wall

Looks like his wife took him back (now that he's "getting help" and has "found God")
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[Hellsbells]

never mind

[MichaelJCheaney]

And trying to kill his kids and himself are going to make his marriage better how?

[Whisper]

And trying to kill his kids and himself are going to make his marriage better how?

It wont ,its all about hurting the surviving parent


"remember you love your children MORE then you hate your ex"

[walkingeagle]

That seems to be exactly what these people are doing!

[Dakota Valkyrie]

And trying to kill his kids and himself are going to make his marriage better how?
He got what he wanted, didn't he? He's back with the wife.

[walkingeagle]

This mental defect seems to hit a lot of these people here. It's a fucking copout!

This woman is dumb as a fucking stump! Take those babies and RUN!

[Miss Anthrope]

What a fucking asshole - and his wife is a stupid cunt - hello! He tried to kill your children you dumb fucking cunt! Wake up and smell the coffee! WTF? Too bad he did not kill himself - then he could have just met god face-to-face and be done with it. Those children are not safe with him

[badfish76]

Hahahaha, melatonin is a natural substance in the human body. It's what our brains release when we naturally fall asleep. Pretty non-toxic.

Thank God he is a fucking idiot or they would all be dead.

[Miss Anthrope]

I agree with you badfish - but still he had the intent to do them harm

[badfish76]

Yes he did and for that he is a scum bag. For using melatonin he is an idiot. Wal-Mart Equate Pain Reliever PM might have done the job and was probably cheaper.

[Gidget]

Pills?! Fucking idiot. And I'm sorry but if he's crazy enough to pull that shit once to try to control his wife, he'll do it again and again. She needs to pack her kids and her shit and run like hell.

[Rockin Ma]

Yes he did and for that he is a scum bag. For using melatonin he is an idiot. Wal-Mart Equate Pain Reliever PM might have done the job and was probably cheaper.

Thank God he's an idiot

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Pills?! Fucking idiot. And I'm sorry but if he's crazy enough to pull that shit once to try to control his wife, he'll do it again and again. She needs to pack her kids and her shit and run like hell.
It's part of the cycle of abuse. He's doing the "I'm sorry. It'll never happen again" thing. I can only hope that children do not pay the price for her pussy fever.

[Whisper]

Dad pleads not guilty in pill case

APPLETON - An Outagamie County man pleaded not guilty Wednesday to charges he tried to kill his four children by giving them sleeping pills during his suicide attempt.
[...]
He returns to court Feb. 28 for a hearing on a defense motion to have the charges dismissed.

At the preliminary hearing, an Oneida Police sergeant testified Suri admitted he believed he and the children would die that night.
Prosecutors say Suri also left a journal with detailed burial plans for him and the children. However, the defense argues Suri didn't give the children enough pills to hurt them and the evidence doesn't support the charges filed.

Each of the four counts of attempted first-degree intentional homicide carries a maximum penalty of 60 years in prison.

Suri's attorney also wants the $200,000 cash bond reduced.http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/dad-pleads-not-guilty-to-trying-to-kill-kids-with-sleeping-pills http://i52.tinypic.com/2zpmpms.jpgDeke Suri

[tlceyes]

Are you ppl for real? Do not speak unless you know the facts, his wife did NOT go back to him, he DID give the kids prescription sleeping pills along with OTC sleeping pills, mixed with root beer and Jack Daniels. Yes, he does have a mental illness, but Im sorry, in my opinion, that is NO excuse to harm your kids just because you cannot face another failed marriage. Seek out the help that is being asked of you before things go to that extreme, DAMN already.

And readers, do NOT assume things that's been printed, they ALWAYS twist things, if you have questions or comments, go to the horse itself, STOP and think before you speak. Just saying!~! And by all means, it is NOT your place to pass judgment, that is for our higher Authority, GOD! Deke Suri may have repented, and God may forgive, but believe me, he will live an eternity in hell here on earth for what he attempted to do.

[walkingeagle]

How is it you come to know how this person tried to kill these babies?

[Dark Star]

And readers, do NOT assume things that's been printed, they ALWAYS twist things, if you have questions or comments, go to the horse itself, STOP and think before you speak. Just saying!~! And by all means, it is NOT your place to pass judgment, that is for our higher Authority, GOD! Deke Suri may have repented, and God may forgive, but believe me, he will live an eternity in hell here on earth for what he attempted to do.

I'm sorry. But you join a long list of people who come here to defend ignorance and spout God bullshit. Blah. Blah. Blah. No one gives a fucking shit.

[eracsurfer]

And readers, do NOT assume things that's been printed, they ALWAYS twist things, if you have questions or comments, go to the horse itself, STOP and think before you speak. Just saying!~! And by all means, it is NOT your place to pass judgment, that is for our higher Authority, GOD! Deke Suri may have repented, and God may forgive, but believe me, he will live an eternity in hell here on earth for what he attempted to do.

Are we hearing this from the horse's mouth?

To me, it sounds more like the horse's ass.

<Edit> As far as answer their initial question... No, I'm not "for real". I have it on good authority that I am just the figment of the imagination of a deranged pickle.

[MinorAbrasions]

Wow. You're probably right. After all why would we believe a reputable news source when any jackass with a keyboard could come here and change our minds?

[tlceyes]

Hahahaha, Not trying to change anyones mind, but reputable news source or not, they love twisting words, I will not disclose how I know what it is that I know, BUT, the facts are the facts, sorry if none of you can deal...I have not nor will I harbor any ill feelings toward Deke Suri, BUT, not only did he try taking his own life, he attempted it on his children, mentally stable or not, you do NOT harm a child, point blank, bottom line..And his wife did what any normal mother would do, she packed her things, and her boys, and RAN LIKE HELL, as one put it, she did attempt getting him the help that he so desperately needed, and he ignored it. So, therefore, all faulty lies on him..I am glad hes seeking out the help he needs, but its a little too late to repair what damage he has bestowed upon his family.

[Whisper]

Are you ppl for real? Do not speak unless you know the facts, his wife did NOT go back to him, he DID give the kids prescription sleeping pills along with OTC sleeping pills, mixed with root beer and Jack Daniels. Yes, he does have a mental illness, but Im sorry, in my opinion, that is NO excuse to harm your kids just because you cannot face another failed marriage. Seek out the help that is being asked of you before things go to that extreme, DAMN already.

And readers, do NOT assume things that's been printed, they ALWAYS twist things, if you have questions or comments, go to the horse itself, STOP and think before you speak. Just saying!~! And by all means, it is NOT your place to pass judgment, that is for our higher Authority, GOD! Deke Suri may have repented, and God may forgive, but believe me, he will live an eternity in hell here on earth for what he attempted to do.

So what family member are you that googled her boyfriends name??son???brother???wife???
Or are you him out on a pass??
It kills me "how the news is always wrong"
But family members and GFs must get a diff paper or news cast then the rest of us b/c you guys know it all and its always fucked up news casts/reports never that fucking freak that did it to his kids!!
I stand 100% behind what I posted

[Whisper]

K lol sorry looks like you guys all posted while I was ranting

[Obsolete]

If she "ran like hell" then why did she update her facebook status to "In a relationship with Deke Suri" after he tried to murder her babies?

[Tundratot]

Well, you know, I'll concede that news sources probably get some of the facts a little twisted, but not so much as to render the story useless. They will try to get verifiable facts, but in the absence of truth, will sometimes print speculation, or information from unreliable sources.

I have a huge problem with friends and families of the accused telling us we don't know the true story or the whole story and then getting all huffy about it. We know at least what is publicly available, presumably verifiable, and unfortunately never enough to satisfy us. You know what? Whatever your family member or friend told you. Which is nonetheless not likely to be highly truthful because these situations bring out the liar in the best of us. Who can face the condemnation of their friends and family? Of course they'll skew their stories and you will be biased in their favor. If you will not produce your story here, and show us some tangible proof of it, forget about changing our hearts and minds.

And, for God's sake, leave Him out of it. There is earthly justice in this country. It's called Rule of Law and it's necessary for people to be able to live in some modicum of civility and safety. It necessitates that we judge others. You judge us to be prying, ungodly, uncharitable, and sinful, perhaps. I can live with that.

[badfish76]

Crib notes:

The media is wrong.

I know the REAL truth.

Only GOD can judge me. . .er. . .him.

But I don't want my ass handed to me so I am going to deny that I am attempting to defend him because I can't handle this group of Demonites on MY ass.

Badfish says: NEXT! This shit is STALE.

[Gidget]

Oh, fun! A tard defender! Exciting!

Let me break this down niiiiice and easy for you. I don't give a flying fuck what you know, who you know, or how you know what you know. You know? Because the news stories, even if they get a couple of little details wrong, are still significantly more accurate and less biased than so-and-so's baby mama's auntie's drug dealer's neighbor's version of the story.

So. That being said, FUCK OFF.

[tlceyes]

Hmmmmmmmmm, WoW, Im not defending anyone you freaking morons, Yes she did update that status, and dont ask me why she put it that way, but, and Im not asking you to take my word, but know this, she is not with him, nor taking him back, or accepting his apologies.

Yes, everything is public record..But was you there? No, was I there, no, BUT, I myself was one of several others that called 911 on what had happened, get it, got it, good! As I said before, I will not disclose how I know all there is to be known (at this specific time), but believe me honey, my resources are much much more reliable than yours. K? K! And Im not press, nor am I an officer, or an investigator, or any expert.
And as for me saying he will spend an eternity in hell here on earth, You ppl really have no clue, he will live with the mental torment and guilt throughout his life, knowing what he had planned out to do, knowing what he attempted in doing, and failed, Thank God he failed, but living and being able to think of that daily, is well, how do I put this delicately, is I guess justice enough for me. Now, enough said..............................

[Dakota Valkyrie]

I feel like this is 4th Grade and some little playground twit is going "I know something you don't know! Nah nah na boo boo!"

This tard has nothing of substance to add to the conversation. Just wants to feel self-important.

tlceyes has no clue what this site is or why. Read this: http://www.dreamindemon.com/gunshot-by-computer/#purpose

[Obsolete]

Yes, everything is public record..But was you there? No, was I there, no, BUT...

1st of all it's..."WERE you there", not "WAS you there". How about correcting your grammar before calling other people fucking morons eh?

2nd of all, I'm not taking the medias word for shit, I'm taking the fact that this so called mother updated her own FB status to "in a relationship" with the stupid fuck that tried to kill her children. You say you don't know why she updated her status...I'll tell you why, because she took him back!! She put it out there herself, not the media, not us..HER!

I seriously doubt you even know these people. Anyone can waltz in here and claim to be a part of this story. Maybe you were bored and had nothing better to do?

I have to run now, Matthew McConaughey is here to take me to lunch.

[tlceyes]

You ppl amaze me, totally clueless, but goes to show the intelligence of this world.
Try this fact on for size, Im am that mothers sister, I do know what the fuck is going on, YES, she did update that, and you nor I know why, you just make an assumption. If you paid attention to that Facebook, you would also see that she has it as "Separated", but you so called intelligent ppl read only what you want to read. You can call my sister every name in the book if you so choose, that's your opinion, but again, you only assume on things that you have read, hmmmmmm. Unless you know the family personally, just STFU.
I'm not here to defend him, nor defend her, I'm here to advocate that those babies, ARE my nephews, and that they ARE safe, and WELL cared for. Do I need to provide you proof of who I say I am, or are you just gonna take that and choke on it because you've done but your feet in your mouths?
Yes, you did what you set out to do and pissed me off, but Im not that pissed to say things I'll later regret, I do have a brain cell or two.
P.S. If it makes you feel better to correct a persons grammar, then so be it, I never claimed to be the most intelligent person on the planet, I'm just claiming to be the Auntie of those baby boys. Ages 12-5..The oldest child just had his 12th birthday. Oh wait, I guess you all knew that too, because Angela has THAT posted as well.
Hang on, it just occurred to me, Deke had posted on her wall several times while in the hospital pleading for her to accept his apologize and remorse, did not any of you pay attention that she did NOT reply to his attempts?? No, again, you read what you wanted and stopped at that.
FUCK OFF!~!

[Whisper]

Actually your the "clueless one" we are sitting back laughing at you and your idiotic mumbling
Nobody cares what you have to say b/c we go news reports not "tards that defend family members"
So whos the moron now ??
Me thinks its the asshole argueing with themselve??

[Nell]

I am not going to fight you, just wondered.

When did she finally dump him? What kind of story did he have for her to even think about taking him back?

Are the kids with her? How is she doing? I bet the fact that her man did this to her babies was a shock to her and she hurt too.

Is she still talking to him at all? On FB or other places? Cause she should just cut his ass off cold!

I am glad you are there for the kids. Now calm down.

[TheMeaningOfItAll]

TLC, there is a difference between education and intelligence. For instance, education would apply to people who completed, say, fifth grade grammar. Intelligence is the ability to learn and/or apply reason. I would say that it's not very intelligent to come into a place and insult people who are complete strangers to you and who are outraged at the injustice that was served to those darling children who call you "Auntie". We are all supposed to be on the same side here. If you love those kids, you damn well better make sure they are safe and aren't subjected to the roller coaster relationship your sister has previously been involved in. Personally, I don't give a flying fuck if their father is "tormented" with the choices he made. Mental torment is too kind for him. Get it? Got it? Good. Choke on that.

[tlceyes]

The boys are with their mother, they are all doing well, considering everything they have all been through. She and Deke have been going through some pretty serious marriage issues, and in the month of December, before this happened, she left him. Unfortunately for Deke, that was the straw that broke the camels back, and he lashed out, and well, you know the result. Anyway, she has no contact with him, nor wants any. The authorities and whoever else is involved keeps her updated on his status. For instance, if it becomes a possibility of him being released, so forth and so on, but as far as she keeping in touch with him, no she does not. Shes doing everything within her power to protect those babies, and taking all precautionary measures that can be taken. I do not personally have as much contact with the higher up's, but If they have questions or concerns, they do contact me. Not as often as we'd all like, but Im not directly involved if you will. I am, but I'm not, if that makes any sense.
And as for Mister TheMeaningOfItAll, This is where you and I disagree, see in my opinion, Death would be too kind for Mr. Deke Suri, that would be an easy way out. If you've never dealt with any mental demon, I praise you, because those drive you to do things you wouldn't normally do. I dont care how right with God you become, you still have that guilt and shame weighing on you constantly.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Sure would have been nice to hear that in the beginning instead of all that mouthy shit.

[Obsolete]

TLC, I just want to point out the fact that if you had been decent in your initial post instead of insulting the posters here, you would have had a much nicer welcome and most of us would have been more inclined to actually listen to what you had to say instead of writing you off as a tard.

[sleepingwithghosts]

Her first post didnt really seem all that offensive to me.. it did seem like she was defending him though.. sort of..
(btw.. no emotes in the forums now??)

[Dakota Valkyrie]

(btw.. no emotes in the forums now??)
Whatchu talking about? :hello: :sheep: :five: :lollypop: (you have to click "Go Advanced" to reach them)

[sleepingwithghosts]

well then.. I wondered what that meant lol
:dong:

[TheMeaningOfItAll]

The boys are with their mother, they are all doing well, considering everything they have all been through. She and Deke have been going through some pretty serious marriage issues, and in the month of December, before this happened, she left him. Unfortunately for Deke, that was the straw that broke the camels back, and he lashed out, and well, you know the result. Anyway, she has no contact with him, nor wants any. The authorities and whoever else is involved keeps her updated on his status. For instance, if it becomes a possibility of him being released, so forth and so on, but as far as she keeping in touch with him, no she does not. Shes doing everything within her power to protect those babies, and taking all precautionary measures that can be taken. I do not personally have as much contact with the higher up's, but If they have questions or concerns, they do contact me. Not as often as we'd all like, but Im not directly involved if you will. I am, but I'm not, if that makes any sense.
And as for Mister TheMeaningOfItAll, This is where you and I disagree, see in my opinion, Death would be too kind for Mr. Deke Suri, that would be an easy way out. If you've never dealt with any mental demon, I praise you, because those drive you to do things you wouldn't normally do. I dont care how right with God you become, you still have that guilt and shame weighing on you constantly.
See? That wasn't so hard now, was it? I agree with you that death is too kind for Suri. I also think sitting around feeling sorry for himself and his "poor choices" is too kind as well. I am very familiar with how torturous mental illness can be. I have a handful of people in my immediate family who suffer from mental illness. I can tell you, and I mean this with all my heart, if any one of them were so tortured by their personal demons that they tried to harm a hair on any of my children, I would personally make sure justice was served. I wouldn't waste my time feeling sorry for them or trying to understand why they made the choices they made. I would worry about making sure the kids are safe and sound and on the path to healing.
If what you say is true, it sounds like the kiddos may have a chance. Side note: It's MRS. TheMeaningOfItAll for future reference.:girl:

[tlceyes]

Honestly, my intent was not to insult anyone really, What upset me was the words that were used against the mother, honestly. And I will and do apologize for anything that was taken wrong..

As I learn things, I will keep all updated, plz continue wishing the boys well, and that they seek peace through all of this, and not become bitter as adults..........

[tlceyes]

Update on my sister and the boys. She and my nephews are now here with me in my home. They aren't doing bad, but they do have their issues and we as a family are working on them. Everything will take time of course, but it will all work out. They are in school and adjusting as best as they can. Im asking that everyone will keep them in your thoughts and prayers through this troubling time. Oh as well, she has NO desire to reconcile with Deke, him trying to take the life of their 4 boys is unforgivable. She wishes to have no contact with him, well also court ordered to have none, so that's a plus. Anyway, will keep you further updated on his trials.

[JustAGirl79]

Wow. I didn't follow the news coverage on this. I didn't even know about this until about 2 days ago, and it's sad, because I've known Deke since I was about 16. So I'm going to speak out of turn, because what I was told isn't probably mine to say, but after hearing people damn Deke and bash him and turn his wife into the victim...yeah, well. Mental illness? Post traumatic stress from serving our lovely country, fighting for our freedom. Marital problems? Yeah, that's probably what you call it when you take someone into your home, and then your wife tells you she's been sleeping with the guy and is going to leave you, take your kids, and move out of state. I can't imagine how that could affect someone after all they've ever done is take care of their family?
It's so easy to judge based on the minute details the media feeds us, and what we all think we know about a situation. Shit, I don't even know everything. I read stuff on here about him giving his kids the sleeping pills with alcohol? Funny, I was told he had put it in their food from McDonald's. Guess that didn't make the press release?
No, I don't think what Deke did was right - who would? But has anyone on this thread, talking shit and casting stones, ever been put in those same circumstances? Damn, I don't even know what I would do if my girls' father said he was taking my babies not only away from me, but AWAY to another state, and that someone he'd been screwing in my bed would be their new mommy? I'd lose my mind!
Honestly, when our friend started telling me what had happened, I had expected to hear, "...and then he dropped the boys off at so-n-so's house, and then he went and offed the bitch and the guy she was screwing..." Maybe that's what he should have done instead?

[Shadow]

Wow. I didn't follow the news coverage on this. I didn't even know about this until about 2 days ago, and it's sad, because I've known Deke since I was about 16. So I'm going to speak out of turn, because what I was told isn't probably mine to say, but after hearing people damn Deke and bash him and turn his wife into the victim...yeah, well. Mental illness? Post traumatic stress from serving our lovely country, fighting for our freedom. Marital problems? Yeah, that's probably what you call it when you take someone into your home, and then your wife tells you she's been sleeping with the guy and is going to leave you, take your kids, and move out of state. I can't imagine how that could affect someone after all they've ever done is take care of their family?
It's so easy to judge based on the minute details the media feeds us, and what we all think we know about a situation. Shit, I don't even know everything. I read stuff on here about him giving his kids the sleeping pills with alcohol? Funny, I was told he had put it in their food from McDonald's. Guess that didn't make the press release?
No, I don't think what Deke did was right - who would? But has anyone on this thread, talking shit and casting stones, ever been put in those same circumstances? Damn, I don't even know what I would do if my girls' father said he was taking my babies not only away from me, but AWAY to another state, and that someone he'd been screwing in my bed would be their new mommy? I'd lose my mind!
Honestly, when our friend started telling me what had happened, I had expected to hear, "...and then he dropped the boys off at so-n-so's house, and then he went and offed the bitch and the guy she was screwing..." Maybe that's what he should have done instead?

This is a PUBLIC SHAMING news site. What did you expect? Casting stones is what we do. It doesn't matter what he's done in the past before HE TRIED TO KILL HIS CHILDREN.. This act alone completely obliterates every GOOD deed he has ever done, previously.
So his wife cheated on him (per your claims) big deal. It happens all too often to military couples.

My cousin committed suicide about 15yrs ago because his witch of a wife was going to leave him and take his twin boys and he would never see them again. Not seeing his children was something he couldn't live with. He didn't try to hurt his boys. Instead, he killed himself.

I have ZERO sympathy for the idiot in this news article because he DID try to kill his children.

~shadow

[TheMeaningOfItAll]

Wow. I didn't follow the news coverage on this. I didn't even know about this until about 2 days ago, and it's sad, because I've known Deke since I was about 16. So I'm going to speak out of turn, because what I was told isn't probably mine to say, but after hearing people damn Deke and bash him and turn his wife into the victim...yeah, well. Mental illness? Post traumatic stress from serving our lovely country, fighting for our freedom. Marital problems? Yeah, that's probably what you call it when you take someone into your home, and then your wife tells you she's been sleeping with the guy and is going to leave you, take your kids, and move out of state. I can't imagine how that could affect someone after all they've ever done is take care of their family?
It's so easy to judge based on the minute details the media feeds us, and what we all think we know about a situation. Shit, I don't even know everything. I read stuff on here about him giving his kids the sleeping pills with alcohol? Funny, I was told he had put it in their food from McDonald's. Guess that didn't make the press release?
No, I don't think what Deke did was right - who would? But has anyone on this thread, talking shit and casting stones, ever been put in those same circumstances? Damn, I don't even know what I would do if my girls' father said he was taking my babies not only away from me, but AWAY to another state, and that someone he'd been screwing in my bed would be their new mommy? I'd lose my mind!
Honestly, when our friend started telling me what had happened, I had expected to hear, "...and then he dropped the boys off at so-n-so's house, and then he went and offed the bitch and the guy she was screwing..." Maybe that's what he should have done instead?
So what you are basically saying is that you heard it through the grapevine that his wife was cheating on him and he went psycho? Oh! Let's not forget how the media had it fucked up and forgot to tell the world at large that Daddy was kind enough to put the pills in their hamburger instead of shoving them down their throats. I sincerely hope you don't have kids or a partner because, heaven forbid, if your partner cheated on you, I'm sure you'd do what your 'ole pal did. You have no idea how you'd handle it, right? Here's an idea: walk away and handle things decently for the children's sake.

[Tundratot]

Honestly, when our friend started telling me what had happened, I had expected to hear, "...and then he dropped the boys off at so-n-so's house, and then he went and offed the bitch and the guy she was screwing..." Maybe that's what he should have done instead?
That would have been more tolerable, but still, in a land of law and order, not the right thing. Think then of how his children would be left without a father and a mother, since mom would be dead and dad would be on a trip to prison for the duration of their childhoods. Not to mention that he would be the murderer of their mom and they'd have to know that. Would they believe his story? Should they care?

If you are not comfortable passing judgment based on news stories, or neighborhood gossip, or internet chatter -- that's fine. Why are you even here? You can stand by for jury duty.

[eracsurfer]

You want to know the "proper" way to handle something like this?

He should have manned up and left her, fought for custody of the children and spent the rest of his life making their lives more wonderful and enriched by being a father and hero.

Instead, because he is a selfish prick, he attempted to deny his own flesh and blood any chance of finding happiness.

Before you claim, "but you don't know what it's like... " My now ex-wife screwed around on me, she took our son and moved three states away to be with her new flame. I travelled 4 hours each way every two weekends to visit my son, until I got custody. I raised him myself from the time he was 6 to 18. He is now 22 and knows which of his parents that he can rely on for help and support. And it was not from me bad-mouthing his mother. I never did that. His mother's actions spoke volumes instead.

[Alf]

Mental illness? Post traumatic stress from serving our lovely country, fighting for our freedom.

What were his campaigns?

I also have PTSD, as diagnosed by a licensed psychologist. It is being treated with medication and cognitive behavior and exposure therapy. And I do not feel badly about discussing the disorder itself with anybody. (How I came about having it is a different matter.)

If -- and only if -- he has been diagnosed with PTSD or PTSS by a licensed mental health professional AND he has been under treatment for the disorder AND that treatment has been ineffective would I take that into consideration. I would need to hear that from the mental health professional(s) treating him, though, not from some anonymitti on the Internet. And it would not give him a complete pass on his responsibility for his actions, bar certain highly unlikely conditions, if I did take it into consideration.

If he's trying to deal with PTSD on his own, without the help and assistance of professionals, then he's a fool. That's like attacking a battalion with a platoon; one needs support from big guns to do that. The pros are the necessary big guns.

--ex-Sergeant Al