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Athena
April 22nd, 2008, 05:28 PM
This is ridiculous...but totally plausible, all in the same.

In Chicago, fears of a long, bloody summer

http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/CRIME/04/22/chicago.violence.ap/art.gallardo.chicago.wls.jpg

CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- Nine people were killed in 36 shootings over the weekend in Chicago, reflecting what some community leaders say is a deadly breakdown in discipline among gang members after a crackdown over the past few years put many of their leaders behind bars.

Police respond to one of the numerous shootings over the weekend in Chicago.

"The older guys in the past looked out for the little ones. Now they're all locked up," said Nick Stames, a social studies teacher at Crane Tech High School on the city's gang-ridden West Side.

"There's no sense of discipline in the projects," he added. "Everybody's doing their own thing."

Now there is growing fear that Chicago could be in for a long, bloody summer.

"If this happened on this weekend, what is ahead of us when it gets to be 85, 90 and when the schools close in June?" said the Rev. Michael Pfleger, an activist on the South Side. "A lot of kids out there are running their own game, trying to one-up each other for respect."

The shootings included drive-by attacks, and one case in which someone shot up a plumbing supply store with an AK-47. At least 14 of the shootings were gang-related, according to police. As for the rest, the only thing they can say for sure is that three had nothing to do with gangs.

In the past few years, federal and local law enforcement authorities have taken dozens of gang leaders and members off the streets in and around Chicago.

In December, for example, federal authorities broke up a drug dealing ring at Chicago's notorious Cabrini-Green housing project, arresting 16 people, including a leader of the Gangster Disciples. Six months earlier, in Kane County, authorities arrested 31 members of the Latin Kings in 22 slayings, some dating back two decades.

Tio Hardiman, executive director of CeaseFire, an anti-violence group that uses former gang members to mediate conflicts, said that with the gang leaders behind bars, rank-and-file members have decided it's every man for himself, and are fighting over turf and money.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/22/chicago.violence.ap/index.html]Full story

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So, gangland authority figures get locked up and chaos breaks out on Chicago streets? Have cities like L.A. and N.Y. not run similar anti-gang programs? I don't recall anyone crediting their spikes in gang crime to a lack of gan leadership. I suppose that doesn't mean it didn't happen, though.

Apparently, this is a clear illustration of "it'll get worse before it gets better". I know Seattle had had to increase its gang unit in recent years. The crackdown gets tougher, yet gang popularity seems to steadily increase. What's the answer to this problem?

CPL CHUD
April 22nd, 2008, 11:03 PM
Arrest the rest of them.

Athena
April 23rd, 2008, 10:45 AM
Realistic solutions, Chud. ;)

Chicago doesn't have the resources to stop this problem the most straightforward way.

CPL CHUD
April 23rd, 2008, 10:58 AM
I am being serious. The more we arrest, and the more vigorously the police department pursue these arrests, the better. There might be pockets of violence here and there, but long term it's the only morally just choice. The opposite would be cowering to gang violence.

Athena
April 23rd, 2008, 11:47 AM
The opposite isn't an option. I'm not suggesting we release older gang members.

Increasing focus on gang activity has been a common occurance in nearly every major city across the country, yet violent crime is still increasing. We may see an increase for the third year in a row. The feds suggest that this increase is largely due to gang violence, especially among youths. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272424,00.html) Last year, the feds released an extra $31 million to spend solely on reducing gang-related crime.

Seattle is witnessing "the region's biggest upswing in gang-related crime in nearly 20 years", despite increased resources (both financial and personnel) delegated to county and city gang units. Denver has reported a similar increase in the last year. Tucson, AZ; San Diego, CA: Greensboro, NC; Fort Wayne, IN; Tallahasee, FL, etc. are all increasing gang initiatives as the result of increased violence. This is more than a pocket of violence (http://www.iir.com/nygc/summaries.cfm?m=01&y=2008&State=All&dir=1), and it requires something a bit more dynamic than "more of the same", in my opinion.

Personally, I think that increased regulation regarding gun sales and registration, along with increased juvenile sentencing, would compliment "more of the same" quite nicely.