Joseph Duncan Wants To Represent Himself In Court

[Jaded]

BOISE, Idaho — Convicted child killer Joseph Edward Duncan III told a federal judge Friday that he wants to represent himself at his sentencing hearing.

A jury is being chosen to decide whether Duncan should be put to death for the abduction and slaying of 9-year-old Dylan Groene in 2005.

"I don't have an issue with counsel personally," Duncan said in court. "It's ideological. I don't believe that they can ethically represent my ideologies."

Duncan did not elaborate on what those ideologies are. But authorities have examined an Internet blog that he kept for months before the slayings which documented his internal struggle against right and wrong, railed against the ostracizing of convicted sex offenders, and offered religious views.

Duncan pleaded guilty in December to 10 federal crimes stemming from the 2005 kidnapping of Dylan and his then 8-year-old sister, Shasta Groene. Both were taken from their Coeur d'Alene home in May 2005 and sexually abused before Duncan shot and killed Dylan at a campsite in western Montana.

Duncan previously pleaded guilty in Idaho state court to killing the children's mother, Brenda Groene; her boyfriend, Mark McKenzie, and 13-year-old Slade Groene at the family home.

If Duncan represents himself, it could put him in the position to cross-examine Shasta Groene, the sole survivor of the murders and abduction.

It is not yet clear if either side expects to call Shasta as a witness.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351750,00.html

This is another case I have followed since the beginning and I hope the court proceedings are quick and this fucker gets death. Shasta has been through so much already...I hope she doesn't have to testify in front of this dickhead. :mad:

[impqueen]

Jet Duncan deserves his own section of Hell.

I think, were I a judge, I'd have Shasta testify on videotape. There are ways to circumvent the kind of trauma Duncan would put her through on the stand. Duncan wants to hurt Shasta, he will enjoy it, and he will do it in such a way that it is more painful to her than it needs to be.

This is a case where a well-placed bullet to Duncan's head would be a blessing for that little girl.

[Lucy]

http://www.onenewsnow.com/AP/Search/US/Default.aspx?id=206260


Lawyers serving as standby counsel for a man who murdered a family to kidnap and sexually abuse two children asked to withdraw from the sentencing phase of his federal case on Wednesday, but the judge refused.

The attorneys said they could not ethically continue as standby counsel for Joseph Edward Duncan III, who is representing himself, because he apparently intends to base his defense on an irrational and incomprehensible world view.
"We are not mouthpieces, we are not gunslingers ... that do the bidding of someone whose rationale we do not share and whose view of the world" is irrational, said Judy Clarke, one of Duncan's standby counsel. "We feel that the request is beyond what we should be asked to do ... beyond what our professional ethics allow us to do."

U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge, however, directed that they remain on the case, saying he would not allow it to be delayed any longer.

Jury selection resumed Wednesday after a more than three-month delay following Duncan's request to represent himself. During that time he underwent a battery of psychological tests and Lodge ruled late last month that he was mentally competent to serve as his own attorney.

Duncan is facing the death penalty after pleading guilty to 10 federal charges in the kidnapping of two northern Idaho siblings, ages 8 and 9, and the murder of the older child in 2005. The 8-year-old was rescued; it is unclear whether she will testify in the sentencing phase.

The children were taken from their Coeur d'Alene home in May 2005 after Duncan fatally bludgeoned their brother, their mother and her fiance. Duncan has pleaded guilty in state court to those three murders, which also could lead to a death sentence.

During jury selection, four potential jurors said seeing Duncan act as his own lawyer could affect their ability to be impartial.

"If he is able to come face to face with the little girl, that's ethically wrong," one potential juror said. "That's not right _ it's like abusing her again."
Clarke said Duncan doesn't intend to present any evidence about his own traumatic childhood or mental state as she and his other standby lawyers recommend.

"We do not share his theory of the case to the extent we can understand his theory of the case," Clarke said.

[celtic friend]

This just sets him to have appeals when he gets his death sentence. He will die from natural causes before he would ever get lethal injection.

[impqueen]

Jet Duncan is impossible to defend. No wonder his attorneys want outta that hellish case - especially if the rumored video of Shasta and Dylan's abuse at this bastard's hands does exist.

[Gilbrit]

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k349/Gilbrit/Josephduncan.jpg

[Aelwynn]

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/26912109.html


BOISE, Idaho (AP) - As a jury hears prosecutors explain why he should be put to death for killing four members of a family and kidnapping a fifth, convicted pedophile Joseph Edward Duncan III might not offer a substantial counter-argument for why he should live.

Duncan is representing himself at his death penalty hearing, joining federal prosecutors Wednesday morning in choosing a jury for the process. Duncan's standby legal counsel, Judy Clarke, has said Duncan doesn't plan to offer any mitigation, such as evidence of his own traumatic childhood.

Opening arguments were expected to begin Wednesday immediately following jury selection.

Duncan isn't new to the legal system. His past is littered with arrests and prison time for crimes ranging from car theft to rape and molestation. He is suspected in the 1996 slayings of two half-sisters from Seattle, and is charged with the 1997 killing of a young boy in Riverside County, Calif.

In 2005, he came to Idaho. He stalked a family and then entered their Coeur d'Alene home, murdering 13-year-old Slade Groene, his mother, Brenda Groene, and her fiance, Mark McKenzie. Then he kidnapped the two youngest, 9-year-old Dylan Groene and then-8-year-old Shasta Groene.

He pleaded guilty to those murders in state court in 2006, and in January 2007 the federal government charged him with 10 felonies for the trauma he inflicted on Dylan and Shasta. They were threatened, sexually abused and tortured in the remote Montana wilderness, where Dylan was killed, according to court documents. Then he packed up Shasta and returned to Coeur d'Alene, stopping in the middle of the night for a meal at a Denny's restaurant, where a waitress recognized Shasta and called police.

In December, Duncan pleaded guilty to the federal charges, clearing the way for a jury to decide his fate.

The case won't be easy, the judge has warned potential jurors. They'll have to review horrendous evidence, including a videotape Duncan made of the "sadistic sexual abuse" of Dylan. They may hear poignant testimony from Shasta, the sole survivor.

What they likely won't hear is any mitigating evidence designed to lighten Duncan's culpability.

Former defense attorneys are serving only as "standby counsel," a sort of legal resource for Duncan as he presents his case.

Clarke has argued in court that Duncan is irrational and not mentally competent to represent himself. U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge disagreed.

As of today...this is the latest update.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

might not offer a substantial counter-argument for why he should live.
MIGHT NOT?? Try "can not" and "should not". I hate this one-man cluster fuck. (understatement of the century)

[Aelwynn]

Man...just his picture on that newest article I posted was enough to scare the living crap outta me.

[nurseronda]

A jury that will decide whether a convicted pedophile should be executed listened Wednesday as a prosecutor graphically described how the man killed members of an Idaho family, abducted two children and abused the youngsters at a campsite before murdering one of them.

Joseph Edward Duncan III, who is representing himself, told the 12-member jury in his opening statement that the prosecutor's narrative was "fair and accurate up to the point of what occurred at the campground."

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation/AP/story/639984.html

[lapsus.lingua]

Yes, thank God for forensic interviews! Let's just hope they have a local Child Advocacy Center and can get one done in time...

[Jaded]

BOISE - We've long known that Joseph Duncan kidnapped the two youngest Groene children and took them to a remote campsite in the Lolo National Forest in Montana, but prosecutors focused on another campsite - one that may have foreshadowed Duncan's plans.

In the week or two leading up to Duncan's attack at the Groene family home in Coeur d' Alene, it appears he had a different plan in the works.

In another remote campsite, in another forest, Duncan was camping and collecting children's items. In the Kootenai National Forest in an area known as Stryker, detectives found three small children's plastic swimming pools and a little girl's bicycle he stole from a residence days earlier. Police also found a tripod at the site, which was already set up.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation was able to find Duncan's campsite in Stryker through the global positioning system in his stolen Jeep.

That GPS also revealed numerous other suspicious stops, homes... all with the common denominator of children's play equipment in the yard.

http://www.nwcn.com/topstories/stories/NW_081908IDN_duncan_hearing_LJ.123d50be.html

[Sickia]

Yikes...I've been camping near Stryker (but well before JED was there)

I found this old article indicating he may have also been cruising neighborhoods in Missoula before heading west.

I-90 runs through Missoula west to Coeur d'Alene. It's a lovely drive.

The article states that the Groene family lived close to the interstate. How fucking convenient.

http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2005/08/26/news/top/news01.txt

:mad2:

[mpratt]

Duncan, formerly of Tacoma, Washington, has a long string of arrests and convictions for crimes ranging from car theft to rape and molestation. He is suspected in the slayings of two half-sisters from Seattle in 1996 and is charged with killing a young boy in Riverside County, California, in 1997.



Can Someone please explain to me, how this system is so FLUCKED UP that he was walking in the streets and not hanging by his nutsac already?????????????????????????????????

[Lucy]

update on court case - penalty phase


BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Jurors cringed, cried and some desperately looked away as they were shown a series of deeply disturbing and graphic videos taken by a convicted child killer as he tortured, sexually abused and nearly killed a 9-year-old boy.

Federal prosecutors showed the video as part of their efforts to persuade the jury to recommend the death penalty for Joseph Edward Duncan III. He kidnapped the boy, Dylan Groene, and his sister, Shasta, in May 2005 after murdering their older brother, their mother and her fiance. The two young children were taken deep into the Lolo National Forest, where they endured weeks of horrendous abuse at the hands of Duncan.

Duncan ultimately shot the boy point-blank in the head while his sister, then 8, watched. He was arrested after returning to Coeur d'Alene, where a waitress recognized Shasta as the two ate at a Denny's restaurant.

The videos and photos taken at the cabin show Duncan forcing the boy to perform a sex act, whipping him with a belt and hanging him with a wire noose until the boy passed out.

"The devil is here, boy, the devil himself. The demon couldn't do what the devil sent him to do so the devil came himself," Duncan yells in one video. "The devil likes to watch children suffer and cry."

Duncan covered his face as parts of the video were shown, and jurors frequently shot him looks. Two of Duncan's standby attorneys also avoided looking at the screen.

Duncan, a convicted pedophile originally from Tacoma, Wash., has pleaded guilty to federal and state counts including murder. The federal jury is considering the death penalty on charges related to the kidnappings and Dylan's murder, but he also could face execution on state counts in the other three killings.

After releasing Dylan from the noose, Duncan promised to take him to the hospital so his injured neck could be treated. He also promised to tell hospital staffers where to find Shasta, who had been left back at the campground, so they could come find her. He kept neither promise.

After that, Duncan offered to let Dylan watch the video of his "death," then wandered away from the camera where he could be heard singing part of the Lord's Prayer

[Just my luck sucks]

I have a fairly strong stomach, but, if I were a juror they'd have to supply me with a lifetime's worth of barf bags.

Those poor jurors, they will live the rest of their days with those awful, sick and disgusting images in their heads. With no way to bleach their brains.

Bless little Dylan-RIP

Shasta--may the rest of your life be filled with nothing but light and wonderful moments. Wishing you only the absolute best of everything.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

My heart cries at this.

Luckily, federal death sentences can be performed in a relatively short time. I think Duncan will push for quick.

[Jaded]

My heart cries at this.

Luckily, federal death sentences can be performed in a relatively short time. I think Duncan will push for quick.

Duncan's ego is too big to wanna go out quick. I see him dragging this out for as long as he possibly can. Whatever the asshole gets, it's way too good for him.

[Jaded]

I have a fairly strong stomach, but, if I were a juror they'd have to supply me with a lifetime's worth of barf bags.

Those poor jurors, they will live the rest of their days with those awful, sick and disgusting images in their heads. With no way to bleach their brains.

Bless little Dylan-RIP

Shasta--may the rest of your life be filled with nothing but light and wonderful moments. Wishing you only the absolute best of everything.

There is no way in hell I would want to be in the jurors shoes. Just reading the 'cleaned up' versions in the news makes me ill.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Duncan's ego is too big to wanna go out quick. I see him dragging this out for as long as he possibly can. Whatever the asshole gets, it's way too good for him.
That was what was thinking but changed my mind when I saw he is not going to do any mitigating factors in the penalty phase. Virtual guarantee of a death sentence. He is a chickenshit and wouldn't want to be bored.

[Kitty]

http://hamptonroads.cox.net/cci/newsnational/national?_mode=view&_state=maximized&view=article&id=D92QS5T00&_action=validatearticle

"Joseph Edward Duncan III has been sentenced to death for the 2005 kidnapping, torture and murder of a northern Idaho boy.
A federal jury deliberated just three hours before reaching the unanimous verdict. The jurors' recommendation was binding on U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge, who thanked them, dismissed them and then issued the sentence."

Too bad executions are required to be humane...

[jenthgr8]

I am so pleased that this sick fuck is going to die. I really feel some people are completely and thoroughly irredeemable, and Duncan is one of them. The guy is pure evil, through and through. He deserves to die painfully and horribly, like his victims. What a shame he won't suffer.

[jlt080405]

I wonder if he will still be smiling when they rip his asshole out in prison, b4 he gets put down

[Jaded]

I wonder if he will still be smiling when they rip his asshole out in prison, b4 he gets put down

I. Fuckin. Wish.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Convicted killer Joseph Duncan is spending Monday being sentenced on a litany of charges related to the devastation he brought on a North Idaho family in 2005.

Duncan first faced a judge via video-conference to be sentenced on state charges. The judge, located in Coeur d'Alene, handed down three life sentences for the murders of Brenda Groene, Slade Groene and Mark McKenzie. Those sentences are fixed and will be served concurrently.

Later Monday morning, he was sentenced for seven more charges - including three additional life sentence for kidnapping and two counts of aggravated sexual abuse.

He was also sentenced to ten years each on four additional miscellaneous counts.

All together, Duncan has been sentenced to death, six life sentences and an additional 40 years in prison.

He could still face charges in California on separate crimes he is accused of.

"Your crimes exceeded all bounds of human decency and has left society in a state of shock," Federal Judge Edward Lodge said. "You must now pay the price with your own life."http://www.ktvb.com/news/crime/stories/ktvbn-nov0308-duncan.177f4c20c.html

I think they should wait until he appears to be dying of natural causes before they impose the death sentence.

"Natural causes" includes extreme un-treated sepsis due to having a new asshole ripped in by Bubba.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

http://i32.tinypic.com/rmicfs.jpg
A revelation struck Joseph Edward Duncan III as he was about to kill an 8-year-old Idaho girl that changed his violent ways four years ago, a psychologist testified Wednesday.

But despite his self-described epiphany, Duncan remains delusional and incompetent to stand trial for the 1997 murder of a 10-year-old Beaumont boy, Dr. Art Kalechstien said.

Kalechstien was the fourth witness called as a witness for defense attorneys to pronounce Duncan incompetent. Two other psychologists called by the prosecution have said Duncan is not mentally ill and able to stand trial.
[...]

"Whatever the defense may be is irrelevant to Mr. Duncan," Kalechstien said. "He doesn't want to participate except to show people his epiphany. In my opinion, he will not cooperate with his attorneys at the end of the day."
[...]

Kalechstien listed a series of beliefs that showed Duncan suffered from delusions and a severe mental illness. Duncan's religious beliefs have included the notions that God wants him to kill; he blamed God for his behavior; and that a child of God cannot do good.

But Kalechstien agreed many of those beliefs may have changed since Duncan's arrest in 2005. Duncan has reported an epiphany he experienced on a mountain in Montana as he was about to kill 9-year-old Shasta Groene, whose parents in Idaho were slain by Duncan.

Since then, Duncan has proclaimed to six or seven other psychologists that he wants to spread his message of "The Truth."
[...]
http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_E_duncan27.453b894.html

If found competent, the case will go to trial. If not, the case will be held until he is found competent. He has confessed to abducting and killing 10-year-old Anthony Martinez. By forcing a trial, he wants just another platform to shout his craziness from.

With all the death sentences and life terms he already has, I would just put him in a corner to rot until the executioner gets around to him.

[Jerri Blank]

Accused murderer of Beaumont boy gets his own investigator
The Press-Enterprise (http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_W_eduncan18.47200b7.html)
http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae258/endchildabusenow2009/Abuse%20Angels/hard%20to%20look%20at/josephedwardduncaniii.jpg

The Riverside County Superior Court has appointed a special investigator on behalf of a man being tried for the murder of a 10-year-old Beaumont boy.

Judge David B. Downing appointed private investigator Enrique Tira to work with Joseph Edward Duncan during his upcoming capital trial.

Downing assigned the investigator to help Duncan prepare his defense, subpoena victims and collect evidence. Tira is being paid $75 per hour by the county without a cap, according to court records.

Duncan is representing himself on Riverside County charges for the 1997 kidnapping and killing of Anthony Martinez, who was taken from his Beaumont home. His body was found nearly two weeks later bound with duct tape and beaten with a rock.

Duncan has already received three death sentences and nine life terms for killing a family of four in Idaho. According to court records, he has confessed to Anthony's killing, but pleaded not guilty.

Both the Riverside County public defender's office and the Desert Conflict Defense Panel have rejected the case, citing a strain on resources.

The judge said last year that Duncan needed stand-by counsel to be ready to take the case if Duncan decides he needs an attorney or the judge ruled he can't represent himself. No attorneys have been assigned.

A trial is scheduled to begin in September. Duncan was ordered to appear Feb. 26 for a scheduling hearing.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/558/3762855eduncan18400.jpg
Joseph Edward Duncan
http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae258/endchildabusenow2009/Abuse%20Angels/hard%20to%20look%20at/2304917.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2961/shastaduncanenterstore.jpg
Duncan and abducted Shasta entering a store
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7949/tnshastadylangroene.jpghttp://img39.imageshack.us/img39/795/tnmartinezanthony.jpg
survivor: Shasta Groene, murder victims Dylan Groene & Anthony Martinez
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2153/sladegroenevictim150.jpghttp://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4830/brendakaygroene150.jpghttp://img716.imageshack.us/img716/300/boyfriendvictim150.jpghttp://img689.imageshack.us/img689/783/pgclawhammersimilar.jpg
Victims: Slade Groene, Brenda Kay Groene & Mark McKenzie / hammer similar to the murder weapon

When I first seen a update on Duncan and searched him I didn't get a thread hit. I am so horrifed by this case I was gonna PM someone to post his story 'cause I seriously do not have the power of spirit to do it.

glad I re-searched 'cause man this is one of Those cases you just don't shake off at the end of the day. I seriously don't even think I can handle the trial evidence on this one...

[Hellsbells]

http://jetd63.blogspot.com/2005/07/joseph-duncan-timeline.html
The best site I have found about this asshole

[Jerri Blank]

http://jetd63.blogspot.com/2005/07/joseph-duncan-timeline.html
The best site I have found about this asshole

Wow!! holy shit is that him in drag?!

great find, thank you for sharing it.

I was shocked to see his name in the news, I thought we were done with this evil man

this is one fucked up case.. I really hope that video he took of abusing & murdering Dylan Groene never survives to make it to the public. that was always in my head after I first read this nightmare of a story.

what if people put it on the internet, it's such a disgusting thought :-(

[Oceangirly92]

oh man. holy shit. i got a 10th of the way through hellsbells link. why the fuck do they let murderers get off. children would be alive if not for their fucked up laws. who gives a fuck about a murderer, about his freedom. nobody should give a f.u.c.k. i swear this system is run by by murderers and child molesters. I cannot stress enough that I am not playing

[Pete Bondurant]

Always get a Jewish lawyer.....that's what I say.

[Jerri Blank]

Always get a Jewish lawyer.....that's what I say.

I Dunno about that but I do know I have been entranced by your avatar for the last five minuets.

[Pete Bondurant]

I Dunno about that but I do know I have been entranced by your avatar for the last five minuets.

Were these five minuets composed by Herr Bach?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1DDSLdDOo&feature=related

[Jerri Blank]

Were these five minuets composed by Herr Bach?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1DDSLdDOo&feature=related
haha! typo's will kill me. at least it's a word. so your not gonna spill what the heck your avatar is? see I'm blind as a bat hence typo's and what ever else I can blame on my eye sight.

kinda fun seeing everything wrong though..so it might be a button, a door knob, ??

oh well I still like it all the same .

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8711/captainpike2267.th.jpg (http://img693.imageshack.us/i/captainpike2267.jpg/)

hmm..not captain pikes box?

[Dakota Valkyrie]

A prosecutor has agreed to meet with officials at the Riverside County Jail in Indio and the investigator for a confessed child killer who requested a laptop computer so he can prepare his defense to charges of killing a Beaumont boy.

Joseph Edward Duncan III, 47, is representing himself against first-degree murder and other charges stemming from the April 1997 kidnapping and slaying of 10-year-old Anthony Martinez.
[...]

Superior Court Judge David Downing held a hearing Friday to help determine how Duncan can be given a laptop so the defendant can review nearly 30,000 pages of evidence to prepare a defense.

Riverside County sheriff's officials have said previously that Duncan cannot have unfettered access to a laptop in the jail because of security concerns and the fact that there are no electrical outlets in individual cells.

Downing said that provision “doesn't work.”

Deputy District Attorney Otis Sterling initially told the judge that he has already fulfilled his obligation to provide Duncan with all the documents in the Riverside County case.

Sterling said his office was working on redacting witness names and other sensitive information from documents in the Idaho case.

“The laptop issue is between the court and Mr. Duncan,” Sterling said.

Downing expressed his frustration at the prosecutor's response.

“I retire in 21 months. In that time, it is my goal to get all the cases tried that are assigned to me,” the judge said, noting that Duncan's trial cannot go forward until he is given access to all documents.

Duncan, who was given unrestricted access to a laptop in Idaho, told the judge that he needs a computer to handle all of the documents, but that he was open to allowing his investigator, Enrique Tira, to handle all of the discovery.
[...]http://www.mydesert.com/article/20100314/NEWS0802/3140305/1026/news12

Give it to him. Get this shit over with. He can only get dead once anyway. All this is just more of his playing with the system. Once all his trials are done, he's done.

I think they should install an electrical outlet in his cell... with a length of wire attached to his head.

[Gidget]

30,000 pages? What's the problem? Start photocopying them.

[Jerri Blank]

When ever I see this page updated I always feel shocked or surprised for some reason..maybe my unconscious is just hoping Duncan would disappear.

Truly he has to be one of the most evil people to ever exist. I am all about giving people a fair trial and (trying to) presume their innocence and plead their case. then there a few that just need put down, fuck a long trial, fuck life in prison, do the world a favor and eliminate these evil creatures.

Augh, I just ate, I know to wait a half hour before reading DD damn it

[badfish76]

Here is what Duncan needs:

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3041/bulletfromrevolver1.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/bulletfromrevolver1.jpg/)

[Whisper]

Convicted Child Killer Now Wants Lawyer for Trial
An already condemned child killer who is currently representing himself against charges stemming from the kidnap-murder of a Beaumont boy now says he wants a lawyer, a public defender confirmed Friday.

Joseph Edward Duncan III, 47, faces first-degree murder and other charges stemming from the April 1997 abduction and slaying of Anthony Martinez.

Duncan, who has already been sentenced to death for the slaying of a boy in Idaho, could receive another death sentence if convicted in the Riverside County case.

"He's asked to have counsel appointed," said Deputy Public Defender Richard Verlato, who was part of a defense team that previously represented Duncan, who began acting as his own attorney in September 2009.
[...]
"Of course it is all up to Mr. Duncan. He has to say the words, `I want an attorney," and the court, I think, would appoint an attorney for him," Verlato said, adding that he could not discuss the reason Duncan changed his mind.

Duncan is due in court Oct. 4 for a hearing on the matter.

Last month, Riverside County Superior Court Judge David Downing told Duncan he would have a year to prepare for trial.

The judge recently allocated funds for Duncan to have access to a personal laptop to help prepare his defense.

Duncan has indicated he does not deny the allegations against him, but cannot plead guilty because of a California law that stipulates a defendant must be represented by an attorney and have that lawyer's consent to enter a guilty plea in a potential death penalty case. ..

[Jerri Blank]

Convicted Child Killer Now Wants Lawyer for Trial
An already condemned child killer who is currently representing himself against charges stemming from the kidnap-murder of a Beaumont boy now says he wants a lawyer, a public defender confirmed Friday.

Joseph Edward Duncan III, 47, faces first-degree murder and other charges stemming from the April 1997 abduction and slaying of Anthony Martinez.

Dag-Nabbit!!


When ever I see this page updated I always feel shocked or surprised for some reason..maybe my unconscious is just hoping Duncan would disappear.

Truly he has to be one of the most evil people to ever exist. I am all about giving people a fair trial and (trying to) presume their innocence and plead their case. then there a few that just need put down, fuck a long trial, fuck life in prison, do the world a favor and eliminate these evil creatures.

Augh, I just ate, I know to wait a half hour before reading DD damn it

Augh it just happened again!!

I hate this man's guts, Grrrr!!!!!!!

[KyFyre]

It's a stall tactic. First he wants to rep himself, waits a few months.. then wants a lawyer. He's just dragging his heels because he knows this time he WILL see that needle coming for him in the end. At least, he will if there is any justice at all.

[badfish76]

Yeah he really should just hang himself and get it over with. You can only stall for so long before Karma gets you.

[RobotSocks]

Shasta--may the rest of your life be filled with nothing but light and wonderful moments

i don't think wonderful moments could exist after watching your 9 year old brother get shot in the head, knowing some man killed him and the rest of your family. and if they do, i don't think they'll ever be as sweet as they would have been if that shit didn't happen.

this poor girl is going to have nightmares for the rest of her life.

[Hellsbells]

Duncan Attorneys Propose Plea Deal To D.A.'s Office


KESQ.COM - Attorneys for already-condemned child killer Joseph Edward Duncan, III, have presented a proposed plea agreement to the Riverside County District Attorney's Office, which is slated to make a decision on whether to accept the offered deal on March 7.

Duncan is accused in Riverside County in the 1997 kidnap-murder of a Beaumont boy and was convicted in another state of other killings. Details of the settlement were not made public.

Duncan, 47, who has already been sentenced to death for the slaying of an Idaho boy, would face capital punishment if convicted by a jury of abducting and killing 10-year-old Anthony Martinez.

He was extradited to Riverside County in January 2009 to stand trial in the Beaumont killing.

Duncan had been representing himself until a new defense team was appointed last October. He relieved his earlier attorney in August 2009, when he was deemed competent to stand trial by a jury.

http://www.khq.com/Global/story.asp?S=14078535

[badfish76]

Can't we just fry this sick fuck and get it over with? He makes my skin crawl and my stomach heave.

[Jerri Blank]

When ever I see this guys name I just feel sick and all that crap he did comes right back into my mind. I'm amazed he is still alive as hated as he is. the needle is to good for him.

[FknKraze]

Duncan ultimately shot the boy point-blank in the head while his sister, then 8, watched. He was arrested after returning to Coeur d'Alene, where a waitress recognized Shasta as the two ate at a Denny's restaurant.

The videos and photos taken at the cabin show Duncan forcing the boy to perform a sex act, whipping him with a belt and hanging him with a wire noose until the boy passed out.

GUH! This story is new to me, I have no idea why I haven't heard of this, until now but I have to say, without a doubt, THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE SICKEST SHIT, I HAVE COME ACROSS ON THIS SITE!!! HANDS DOWN! SOMEBODY PLLLLLEASE, LET THIS MOTHERFUCKING PIECE OF SHIT GO IN THE G.P. ACCIDENTALY! PLEASE!

[Jerri Blank]

GUH! This story is new to me, I have no idea why I haven't heard of this, until now but I have to say, without a doubt, THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE SICKEST SHIT, I HAVE COME ACROSS ON THIS SITE!!! HANDS DOWN! SOMEBODY PLLLLLEASE, LET THIS MOTHERFUCKING PIECE OF SHIT GO IN THE G.P. ACCIDENTALY! PLEASE!

can you imagine being on this jury, having to watch that video?
ugh and hear his screaming this at the little boy..
"
The devil is here, boy, the devil himself. The demon couldn't do what the devil sent him to do so the devil came himself," Duncan yells in one video. "The devil likes to watch children suffer and cry."

I'd leap right out of jury box and gouge his fucking eyes out!

[Whisper]

When ever I see this guys name I just feel sick and all that crap he did comes right back into my mind. I'm amazed he is still alive as hated as he is. the needle is to good for him.
Jerri Blank Im with you,everytime I see this thread has an addition I feel a knot in my stomach although hes in prison he still personifies evil

[badfish76]

Jerri Blank I would be right beside you as we launched a furious frenzy of fearless force on his sick fucking ass!

[Nell]

Badfish likes words that start with the letter F.

[MichaelJCheaney]

Part of me says California should have stayed out of this.....only because even if he does get the Death Penalty the worst that happens to him is he sits on Death Row at San Quentin until he is old and frail, AND he will most likely be in solitary confinement for the duration of his sentence. So to me it seems they should have just let him rot at Supermax in Colorado.

Although in CA at least their is a chance that a guard could "accidentially" let him out into general population and let karma take over........

[badfish76]

Badfish likes words that start with the letter F.

I was in an F kinda mood. Plus, alliteration is fun! :)

[Hellsbells]

Idaho killer Joseph Duncan pleads guilty to 1997 Calif murder


A man convicted in a horrific Idaho murder case has pleaded guilty to killing a 10-year-old-boy in Southern California in 1997.
Court records show Joseph Edward Duncan III entered the plea in Riverside County Superior Court on Tuesday.
Duncan was charged with killing and torturing 10-year-old Anthony Martinez, who was abducted in 1997. His body was later found near Joshua Tree National Park.

Duncan confessed to the slaying after being arrested and convicted in Idaho for the 2005 killings of two boys, their mother and her fiance, and the abduction of the boys' sister.

http://www.dnews.com/breaking-news/1594/

[Whisper]

I can handle Bernardo/Homolka(for the most part) and many other killers but this guys name just everytime I see it I feel ill



INDIO, Calif. (AP) - A man convicted of a horrific Idaho murder has been sentenced to life in prison for torturing and killing a 10-year-old boy in California in 1997.

Riverside County District Attorney spokesman John Hall says Joseph Edward Duncan III was sentenced to two life terms in Superior Court on Tuesday.

Duncan had pleaded guilty and waived his right to an appeal in an agreement with prosecutors.

Duncan was charged with killing 10-year-old Anthony Martinezafter he was abducted while playing near his Beaumont home. Martinez's body was found two weeks later in the desert.

Duncan confessed after he was arrested in Idaho for the 2005 killings of two boys, their mother and her fiance and the abduction of the boys' sister.
[..]http://www.khq.com/story/14387350/duncan-sentenced-for-the-murder-of-anthony-martinez

[badfish76]

I was hoping to read that he choked on a piece of dry bread and burst into flames, but this is okay news.

[roanokejim]

Jet Duncan deserves his own section of Hell.

I think, were I a judge, I'd have Shasta testify on videotape. There are ways to circumvent the kind of trauma Duncan would put her through on the stand. Duncan wants to hurt Shasta, he will enjoy it, and he will do it in such a way that it is more painful to her than it needs to be.

This is a case where a well-placed bullet to Duncan's head would be a blessing for that little girl.

Duncan will surely a person who don't want to loose a case. I hope that the judge will be objective in that case. :D

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Death sentences overturned for Joseph Edward Duncan III
Federal death sentences imposed on a child killer whose victims included a 10-year-old Beaumont boy were overturned Monday by the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which questioned the defendant's mental competence.

Joseph Edward Duncan III, 48, was convicted in August 2008 of murdering an Idaho family, two of whose members — both children — he abducted and used as sex slaves for weeks before one was rescued.

More than a decade earlier, Duncan abducted Anthony Martinez from his Beaumont neighborhood after luring the youngster to his car with the promise of money for helping him find his lost cat. He then raped and killed the boy.
[...]

At his federal trial in Boise, Idaho, Duncan confessed to all the murders and special circumstance claims.

Before his penalty trial got under way, the previously convicted child rapist insisted on representing himself. His attorneys objected that he wasn't mentally competent and asked for a competency hearing.

Three psychologists retained by the defense raised doubts about Duncan's ability to comprehend the legal process. However, two state-appointed psychologists found that the defendant was not delusional and ‘‘could understand the nature and consequences of the proceedings against him,'' according to the Ninth Circuit's findings.

The trial judge allowed Duncan to represent himself, and he offered no defense, resulting in unanimous jury recommendations that he be executed for the Idaho killings.

He had already pleaded guilty in Idaho state court and was sentenced to multiple life prison terms. Prosecutors in Kootenai County, Idaho, have reserved the right to conduct a penalty trial, leaving open the possibility that Duncan could yet face capital punishment at the state level.

According to the Ninth Circuit's ruling, there was sufficient basis for the judge who presided in the federal case to order a competency trial for Duncan before the penalty phase of his murder trial began.

The panel quoted the defense's experts, who referred to Duncan's bizarre ramblings about religion and his way of life as evidence of ‘‘delusional beliefs, paranoia, grandiosity and psychotic breaks from reality.''

The appellate court also pointed out that a magnetic resonance imaging study showed the defendant had an ‘‘unusual brain structure consistent with behavioral deficits in the ability to make rational plans and modulate emotions.''

The Ninth Circuit remanded the case back to the trial court for a review of whether Duncan is competent. If there's a finding that he isn't, the previous death sentences must be vacated and a new penalty trial held.
http://www.mydesert.com/article/20110712/NEWS0802/107120313/Death-sentences-overturned-Joseph-Edward-Duncan-III

[badfish76]

This is like the summer of Justice Hell!

If anyone in this world ever needed killing, it is this sick motherfucker.

[Jerri Blank]

I think Ive said it before but when ever I see this guys name my hair just stands on end. He is pure evil! I really was hoping to see this was back up because someone killed his sick ass.

Damn this isn't right. I agree badfish76 Where's the justice this year?
This sucks

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Justice is not only served by death. A LWOP sentence suffices in most states. Is that any less justice? Do states without the DP not serve up justice??

All the Federal Court is doing by overturning the Death Sentence is sending it back to reexamine if he was a nut case. We don't execute cuckoos. If he's found sane, he will be resentenced to death. If not, he'll get LWOP.

The state of Idaho could also rule to put him to death. However, if he's found to be incompetent, they probably wouldn't do it. They don't execute cuckoos either.

I would like to see him dead. Why should any prison system have to put up with him? I doubt he adds much entertainment value for the guards and isn't allowed out of his room often. Maybe they can medicate him to sanity. But justice is served even if he's allowed to live and spend his days alone in a little cell.

[badfish76]

No state can execute a looney because it has been deemed to be against the 8th Amendment (cruel and unusual punishment) by the Supreme Court.

I just really need this fucker to die so I can feel better. It's Justice for most people to get LWOP, but like I said before this asshole just NEEDS killing, IMHO. What he did was beyond evil and I would rather live in a world where people like this don't exist or are not allowed to continue to anyway.

[Whisper]

Court Denies Joseph Edward Duncan's Appeal

The U.S. Supreme Court has refused to hear an appeal from a man who killed three members of an Idaho family so that he could kidnap their small children. The court decided that it would not consider the appeal of Joseph Edward Duncan III on whether or not he was competent when he decided to waive his appeal in his 2008 death penalty case.
The high court's decision returns the decision to the U.S. District Court which will conduct a hearing on the issue.

Duncan was sentenced to die for the kidnapping, torture and murder of 7-year-old Dylan Groene after he killed his mother, brother and mother's boyfriend in their home. He also abducted 8-year-old Shasta Groene.

During the sentencing phase of his trial, Duncan decided to represent himself in spite of being appointed three defense attorneys who were ordered to help him as he represented himself.

Retrospective Hearing Ordered

At the time, Duncan's attorneys objected to the plan because they believed he was not competent to represent himself. U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge had Duncan examined by a psychologist who found that Duncan was not delusional and was capable of representing himself.

But Judge Lodge did not hold a hearing on the issue. Last year, the 9th U.S. Court of Appeals ruled that the judge should have held a hearing before making a decision. [...]
The appeal affects only Duncan's death penalty, it does not affect any of his life sentences he received in state courts and in other federal cases.http://crime.about.com/b/2012/03/30/court-denies-joseph-edward-duncans-appeal.htm?nl=1

[Jerri Blank]

Duncan returns to Idaho for federal hearing

BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- A man convicted of killing children in Idaho and California has returned to U.S. District Court in Boise to prepare for a review of part of his death penalty case.

Joseph Edward Duncan III was in court Thursday while U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge began the process of selecting an attorney to represent him in a competency hearing. An appellate court ordered the hearing last year after Duncan's former attorneys argued he wasn't competent to waive his appeals.

Duncan was sentenced to death for the 2005 murder of 9-year-old Dylan Groene. Prosecutors said Duncan snatched Dylan and his sister from their Coeur d'Alene home after killing three family members. Duncan also was convicted in California of killing a 10-year-old boy. He confessed, but wasn't charged, to killing two Washington girls.

http://www.kivitv.com/news/local/152068105.html

[Whisper]

The father of two children who were kidnapped by registered sex offender Joseph Edward Duncan III in Idaho is suing his sister-in-law who set up a bank account for donations to benefit the two siblings. Steven Groene filed suit against Brandy M. Hoagland, the aunt of Shasta and Dylan Groene, who were kidnapped in May 2005.
[/...]

The case made national headlines and during the height of the media coverage, Hoagland set up a donation fund for the children. Hoagland is the sister of Brenda Groene who was killed along with her boyfriend, Mark McKenzie, and son, Slade, on the night Duncan abducted the children.

Misappropriated Funds?
The lawsuit claims that Hoagland has refused to account for the $48,000 donated by the public to the children's fund and has failed to use the fund for the children's best interest.

The lawsuit also claims that Hoagland paid some of the money to third parties who weren't entitled to be paid. When the "Shasta and Dylan Groene Fund" was established the children were listed as the beneficiaries.

Steven Groene's lawsuit also asks that Hoagland replace "all funds misappropriated or mismanaged by her."

Duncan Facing Execution
Duncan was sentenced to death in August 2008 by a federal judge for the murder of 9-year-old Dylan Groene. After abusing and torturing both children for several weeks, Duncan shot Dylan in the torso and head while 8-year-old Shasta watched.

Duncan received three life sentences in Idaho state court for the murders of Brenda, Mark and Slade. The Groene case investigation led authorities to charge Duncan with the 1997 death of 10-year-old Anthony Martinez in Beaumont, California. Duncan received two life terms in California for the Martinez murder.

Investigators said Duncan has also confessed to the murders of half-sisters Sammiejo White, 11, and Carmen Cubias, 9, in Seattle, Washington in 1996. He has not be charged in those cases.http://crime.about.com/b/2012/06/15/shastas-dad-sues-over-donations.htm?nl=1