Erin Brittany Markes starved her child

[Jaded]

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Erin Brittany Markes, 19, was arrested after Santa Rosa County Sheriff's Office officials discovered that she had neglected a 4-year-old child who only weighs 10 pounds, according to a sheriff's office news release.

On March 12, the Department of Children and Families contacted investigators to report that the child had been admitted to the pediatric intensive care unit at Sacred Heart Hospital.

According to the release, the child had bedsores, had a body temperature of 91.1 degrees and was dehydrated.

Doctors discovered that the child had lost six pounds over the last two years because of neglect.

The child also was supposed to be on seizure medication, but no traces of the medication could be found in his system, the release said.

Markes currently is detained at the Santa Rosa County Jail on $100,000 bond.

http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080329/NEWS01/803290312/1127

[nurseronda]

Holly Shit!!!.....10 pounds for a 4 year old is absolutely insane!!
With a body temperature of 91.1 degrees. it sounds like his kidneys shut down. No wonder some kids treat their elderly parents like shit....Hope he gets to care for her then.

[Unamused Cat]

Omg... I am surprised that the child is still alive. Let's put that bitch away and not feed her. :mad: :diablo:

[Lizard]

Might be her MySpace
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=179433720

Not much there, and only 2 friends, but the page of one of them says "prayers for chrysta please please please!" The 4-year-old, maybe?

[Angel]

OK...The child was four and weighed ten pounds. She had lost only six pounds in the last two years (since she was two). That means, at two years old she weighed........ only sixteen pounds?????!!! That is still severely underweight!! Why was she even still with her mother, if she was so underweight at two years old? Another game of DFCS dropped the ball? What does that make the score now? DFCS, 1500; babies, 0?

The only reason I ask about the weight at two years, is because my kids all weighed sixteen pounds by the time they were six months old. By the time they were two they were all closer to thirty than twenty. Is there some kind of medical condition that would explain the already low weight of the child at two? If not, then not only the mother, but everyone else in that child's life needs to be kicked in the head repeatedly. Viciously.

:mad: Good freakin' grief, people.....feed your kids. Every day. Three times a day. Fucking morons.

[Lizard]

I just did a quick Google, and apparently the boy's condition is improving. I wonder if he will face future problems because of his current condition.

[Rev_Saint]

For more info Here (http://http://www.lissencephaly.org/about/lissen.htm)

[Jaded]

Tell me why he has improved since being separated from his mother? If his mother loved him so very much, why was there no trace of his seizure medication in his system??


Treatment for those with lissencephaly is symptomatic and depends on the severity and locations of the brain malformations. Supportive care may be needed to help with comfort and nursing needs. Seizures may be controlled with medication and hydrocephalus may require shunting. If feeding becomes difficult, a gastrostomy tube may be considered.

The prognosis for children with lissencephaly varies depending on the degree of brain malformation. Many individuals show no significant development beyond a 3- to 5-month-old level. Some may have near-normal development and intelligence. Many will die before the age of 2, but with modern medications and care, children can live into their teens. Respiratory problems are the most common causes of death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lissencephaly

[Rotten Apple]

Also, the kid had bedsores.

Which means she probably rarely, if ever, moved him. At 10 pounds, it couldn't have been because he was too heavy.

A special needs child such as this one would have regular doctor's office visits too. Does she have any records of those? If the kid would not eat, she surely would have complained to his primary physician right?

[impqueen]

I do understand the feeding problems associated with lissencephaly and am very familiar with the MU medical system.

I think the concerns here deal with the extreme underweight of this child. Ten pounds is just extremely low, so there have to be some concerns about the frequency and quality of his tube feedings. With anything over a 10cc residual there should be cause for concern and so that may make up part of the problem - that hospital personnel felt that her child was suffering and losing weight due to Erin's life circumstances and maybe Erin was not being as careful as she should be with his feedings.

My concern is the child's Dilantin level. I'm sorry, NO traces of his meds in his system at ALL means that there was neglect - he was not getting his meds in even tiny amounts. I do know liquid meds can come back up with tube feedings, but there should be some little bit of absorption even if it only stays down a little while. Seizure meds stay in the system awhile, so this obviously was an issue that had been ongoing. Why wasn't Jayden getting his meds? After TWO doses not staying in the stomach, she should have had him in to a doctor or ER. Given that his blood level was zero, she waited far too long. That's probably where the charges are coming from.

Erin's age is a factor here. She is 19 with a four year old special needs child. That's really a lot to ask of a mature adult parent, much less a kid. She's pretty clearly not fully able to care for him, since he is apprently improving with proper medical care. I don't condemn Erin, but I don't know that she needs to be trying to parent this child on her own.

[Rev_Saint]

Ha

[Rotten Apple]

bedsore are nothing more than severe diaper rash.

Nope. Bed sores are actually pretty bad. Check it out.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/bedsores/DS00570/DSECTION=2

and a pic of one on an adult. WARNING!! Very graphic.

http://library.med.utah.edu/kw/derm/mml/22320032.jpg

[Jaded]

Well I can not explain everything about the situation, as I am in Arkansas and she is in Fla. But I do that Jayden has an allergic reaction to diapers (bedsore are nothing more than severe diaper rash. According to his aunt, he is also on three different seizure meds. Just because the papers say something doesn't mean they are right. From everything I have found, none of the articles, put the details in. I have not found an article, claiming Dilantin, just seizure meds. I can not claim that she is the perfect mother, like impqueen stated even for a mature adult, Jayden would be a handful. I know that Jayden was in the hospital just a few weeks ago with pneumonia, but they failed to mention that, of course. No matter what is said, she never neglected Jayden to the extent they are claiming, especially not to condemn her to prison. She needs to be let out so she can be with her son. These folks can not afford a good lawyer, so any help would be appreciated.

Again, why wasn't she giving him his meds?
So, are you saying that she should NOT be held responsible for his current condition?

[Rev_Saint]

Ha

[impqueen]

With $100,000 bail, she can get out on a surety bond for ten grand. Sounds like it's time for some family members who believe Erin is innocent to start ponying up.

I don't know that $100,000 is fair in this case, but i think some definite neglect was happening. Maybe some of her Florida family who were there can explain a little more fully.

Dilantin is the standard liquid seizure med for children on tube feedings, so I chose that one. But if he was on THREE meds and NONE of them were in his system, that doesn't look good for Erin. Not at all.

edited to add: decubitus ulcers are not diaper rash and cannot be mistaken for same. It sounds like you're not there and are getting your information from the papers or from other relatives, but I promise you, if you ever see any baby's bony prominences with bedsores and skin breakdown, diaper rash is not the first thing you will think of to call it.

[Rev_Saint]

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[CPL CHUD]

These folks can not afford a good lawyer, so any help would be appreciated.

I won't pay for a lawyer but I think we can muster enough dough to get the kid a double cheeseburger from McDonalds. Hell we could probably even fling some fries its way.

[Rev_Saint]

I won't pay for a lawyer but I think we can muster enough dough to get the kid a double cheeseburger from McDonalds. Hell we could probably even fling some fries its way.

LOL,, Not.. Sorry but I have lost my humor. My girlfriend's nephew is in the hospital, possibly could die any day, her sister's in Jail and we are stuck states away. The rest of her family is tying to help her, but $10,000 is more than we can muster right now. We are trying to find help, but most of us are rather poor. I am done for now. we are trying to find a way for Erin to call us. No one has a landline that will allow collect calls, so that makes it even harder on us all.

[Jaded]

I think his odds of surviving are much higher now that he is getting the care he needs. His condition is already improving.

[Rev_Saint]

:confused: With $100,000 bail, she can get out on a surety bond for ten grand. Sounds like it's time for some family members who believe Erin is innocent to start ponying up.

I don't know that $100,000 is fair in this case, but i think some definite neglect was happening. Maybe some of her Florida family who were there can explain a little more fully.

Dilantin is the standard liquid seizure med for children on tube feedings, so I chose that one. But if he was on THREE meds and NONE of them were in his system, that doesn't look good for Erin. Not at all.

edited to add: decubitus ulcers are not diaper rash and cannot be mistaken for same. It sounds like you're not there and are getting your information from the papers or from other relatives, but I promise you, if you ever see any baby's bony prominences with bedsores and skin breakdown, diaper rash is not the first thing you will think of to call it.

Lol, I do know the difference. And no it was the papers calling it bedsores. His aunt was down there in January, and she herself was administering diaper rash ointment on a rash, not bedsores. And she admits the she saw no change with the ointment, like it wasn't working (and it was prescribed for that reason). I believe the bedsores was a misnomer stated by an officer of the city, not a doctor. But you are right I am not there to see it all, but neither is anyone that is condemning her from just what is in the news. There is alot more to Jayden's case than they are letting on. Just pray for them both please

[Rev_Saint]

I think his odds of surviving are much higher now that he is getting the care he needs. His condition is already improving.

Yes his condition is getting better... Only the fact that they thought he wasn't gonna make it past Friday. and he's been under the hospitals care for over a week before they charged her. His condition has been up & down. But since they arrested her we have had no updates. But don't believe his condition has improved, because it has not gotten beyond a hope.:o :o :)

[Rev_Saint]

HA

[aspartame]

But I do that Jayden has an allergic reaction to diapers .

I was allergic to diapers, and so was my niece. that’s why we were both put in cloth diapers, and changed regularly....no more diaper rash.

just sayin...

[netty1172]

Well just found out that they have rescheduled the arraignment for March 16. It was originally scheduled for three days ago. I know that Erin is being transported to the hospital daily to see Jayden. Will have more later when Erin's father calls us back I hope.

MARCH 16? This is April 1st......didn't think this story was that old :(

[Rev_Saint]

ha

[Rotten Apple]

My mistake, meant April 16th. Use some common sense..

Are you fucking serious?

Common sense would dictate that March meant MARCH.

Don't be such a bitch about it.

[Jaded]

My mistake, meant April 16th. Use some common sense..


We all use common sense around here...that's why the posters HERE are NOT front page news thankyouverymuch.

[netty1172]

Are you fucking serious?

Common sense would dictate that March meant MARCH.

Don't be such a bitch about it.


Thanks for the back up, Kathy!!! (and all my other fellow posters)

FYI Rev_Saint.....I was being sarcastic! I figured you meant April 16th.....however YOU fucked up and typed March! So, before you go throwing stones.....!!!!

[aspartame]

Thanks for the back up, Kathy!!! (and all my other fellow posters)

FYI Rev_Saint.....I was being sarcastic! I figured you meant April 16th.....however YOU fucked up and typed March! So, before you go throwing stones.....!!!!

lol i did not post a comment cause i felt that Kathy said it all!

HAHAA

[netty1172]

lol i did not post a comment cause i felt that Kathy said it all!

HAHAA

My thoughts exactly...she did a GREAT job! :D

[Rev_Saint]

Ha

[Jaded]

As was I. Now you all seem to be very inconsiderate and rude individuals. Not once did I use vulgar degrading language,so thanks. Also figure this into your thoughts. We having been dealing with this situation weeks before it ever hit the papers, so add lack of sleep and emotional distress to my F**k up as you call it.
Thanks


Me? I'm only rude and inconsiderate Mon-Thurs...try catching me on the weekend.

You talk about common sense but yet, here you are defending a woman who has starved and neglected her child. Yes..I have read up on lissencephaly, but I think 10 pounds is EXTREMELY underweight. There HAS to be some neglect there! Not to mention the bedsores, dehydration and low body temperature...which, by the way, are not symptoms of his medical condition.

I am truly sorry that this poor little guy is suffering so badly...but I do believe that she should be HELD RESPONSIBLE! If she couldn't handle his illness, then maybe she should have found someone who could.

[aspartame]

I am truly sorry that this poor little guy is suffering so badly...but I do believe that she should be HELD RESPONSIBLE! If she couldn't handle his illness, then maybe she should have found someone who could.

no shit. she was his mother. it was her job to make sure he had the best of everything. im sorry but if i had a child i would go with out just to make sure he/she had everything that they needed.

IMHO

[Rev_Saint]

Sympathy and outrage for mom stems from extensive knowledge of her baby's disorder and how she tried to move heaven and earth to help him. The statement about the baby not being given his meds was either a misquote or a lie. In actuality the levels in his bloodstream were low. Experts will tell you a child with his problems do not properly absorb nutrients and medications. They also fail to mention that Erin urged the doctor to admit her child in Dec and try to resolve his feeding problems. That is why a National Foundation and their attorney and staff physician SYMPATHIZE and stand behind Erin. Had that baby been YOUR child the end result would have been the same. It is a normal progression of the birth defect. She deserves the right to hold and love her child right now. Give the girl a break and your prayers. I guarantee you have no clue how hard the road you walk with a lissencephaly child is.

[KillBill20]

FOOD

http://www.casinosnob.com/archives/pictures/hamburger.jpg

CHILD

http://www.multiplesoutlet.com/members/701515/uploaded/baby_oneseis.jpg

Here is a novel concept, the food goes into the child a minimum of three times a day.

Just a thought.

~Kyle

[Rotten Apple]

Here is a novel concept, the food goes into the child a minimum of three times a day.

Just a thought.

~Kyle

You know, it isn't even THAT hard. This kid is on a feeding tube. The formula goes straight into his stomach.

Its not like she had to make him put it in his mouth and chew like I have to when I am trying to get my kid to eat her veggies.

This Rev Saint chick is just looking for her 15 minutes. She is not a relative, she is a friend of a relative that doesn't even live in the area.

[KillBill20]

This Rev Saint chick is just looking for her 15 minutes. She is not a relative, she is a friend of a relative that doesn't even live in the area.

Well shit from the sounds of it, I thought she was the best friend of the idiot in jail.

And this whole bullshit excuse about the eating disorder being the reason why the kid weighted 10 bounds is stupid. When I was, well.... fuck I don't remember how old I was right around kindergarden through third grade, I had this weird problem where I would get sick every day after lunch at school. Just totally barf everything back up, there was no real reason for it. I remember going to the doctor a bunch of times too. I ended up having to eat in the office, and for some reason that just worked.

The point of the story is my parents did whatever it took, I didn't die from it, and I didn't loose weight over it. Real parents make things work, half ass idiots let their kids weigh 10 pounds and go "its hard, my kid has special needs, you don't understand."

~Kyle

[Rotten Apple]

The point of the story is my parents did whatever it took, I didn't die from it, and I didn't loose weight over it. Real parents make things work, half ass idiots let their kids weigh 10 pounds and go "its hard, my kid has special needs, you don't understand."

~Kyle

No joke. My cousin's daughter was diagnosed with anorexia at age 4. We are talking fighting, screaming tantrums, psychologists, doctors etc. to make this kid eat. But they did what they had to and she is a healthy adult now.

If you look up this kids disorder, at his age, he couldn't do much but lay there. He couldn't fight her if she tried to feed him. He depended on her for everything...even moving - which explains the bedsores.

My guess is that he was a burden to her and she wanted him to die.

[Jaded]

My guess is that he was a burden to her and she wanted him to die.


What saddens me is that she chose an agonizing way to do it. :(

[Lizard]

http://www.multiplesoutlet.com/members/701515/uploaded/baby_oneseis.jpg



Is that one of Hippie's kids? I can't see Hippie feeding her kids burgers and fries. A soy patty on whole wheat bread, maybe.

;)

[KillBill20]

No joke. My cousin's daughter was diagnosed with anorexia at age 4. We are talking fighting, screaming tantrums, psychologists, doctors etc. to make this kid eat. But they did what they had to and she is a healthy adult now.

If you look up this kids disorder, at his age, he couldn't do much but lay there. He couldn't fight her if she tried to feed him. He depended on her for everything...even moving - which explains the bedsores.

My guess is that he was a burden to her and she wanted him to die.

Wow, I didn't realize that could effect a four year old. Thats totally nuts. I guess anything is possible, unfortunately.

Its also unfortunate that your last statement will probably turn out to be true.

~Kyle

[Jaded]

Sympathy and outrage for mom stems from extensive knowledge of her baby's disorder and how she tried to move heaven and earth to help him. The statement about the baby not being given his meds was either a misquote or a lie. In actuality the levels in his bloodstream were low. Experts will tell you a child with his problems do not properly absorb nutrients and medications. They also fail to mention that Erin urged the doctor to admit her child in Dec and try to resolve his feeding problems. That is why a National Foundation and their attorney and staff physician SYMPATHIZE and stand behind Erin. Had that baby been YOUR child the end result would have been the same. It is a normal progression of the birth defect. She deserves the right to hold and love her child right now. Give the girl a break and your prayers. I guarantee you have no clue how hard the road you walk with a lissencephaly child is.


What 'National Foundation' are you speaking of? And where did you get this information? Just curious....
If this was my child...I guaran-fuckin-tee you that the outcome would not be the same!! So do not EVER assume that it would thanks.
I have read up on it a bit...and NO it is not a normal progression of the birth defect. Children with this condition can and DO live into their teens with the PROPER CARE and MEDICATION. I'm not sure exactly where you are getting your info, I'm assuming it's all coming from the family. Not that they are biased or anything. :rolleyes:
It doesn't sound to me like you give a rats ass about the little starved kid in the hospital.....all you can come up with is praise and sympathy for the woman that put him there.

[Rev_Saint]

HA

[Rev_Saint]

Our website will serve to educate/inform all of you on Erin's child. I hope everyone becomes a little more informed before commenting. www.lissencephaly.org

[Rotten Apple]

In most areas the term Rev. Usually stands for Reverend, which also means that I am not a chick. I am the fiance of Jayden's Aunt. But you really should do your research before you start bad mouthing someone..

Really, I don't care who you are. I know that you are several states away and really have no first hand knowledge of this case. But I think if your username is REVEREND SAINT. You are probably neither.

Most posters who are criticizing this girl are ignorant of the condition of this child. I am convinced of it. But their ignorance encompasses much more than that so what can we expect?

Ok, Reverend. Where is your medical degree? How do you know more than the doctors that have been treating this child. How can the child get so close to death in the hands of a mother that did not administer meds, food or even TURN the child every once in a while, but thrive in the care of strangers?

You keep on coddling this girl all you want. Our loyalties lie with the innocent child. A CHILD not a burden.

[impqueen]

In most areas the term Rev. Usually stands for Reverend, which also means that I am not a chick.

Um, according to the Universal Life Church i can be Reverend Imp in five working days. And I am TOTALLY a chick. Not to mention that, um, user names? Are not like actual real names. Just sayin'.

So how's the bail coming?

[Rev_Saint]

Ha

[TalkingJesus]

*poof* Imp, and Kathy, you are reverends.

[Rotten Apple]

Our website will serve to educate/inform all of you on Erin's child. I hope everyone becomes a little more informed before commenting. www.lissencephaly.org

Already been there and read it. Most people that post here don't pull what they say out of thin air.

You may have been able to sell that bull to other people out there, it won't work here.

From your own website "Most of the older medical literature concerning children with lissencephaly states that they usually die before age 2 years. In my experience, this is not true. "

[impqueen]

Read the whole post and read more about the D**n disease before posting again, or keep it to yourself

Peace

You just dissed KATHY? Dumbass.

Y'know, I could have made a case for your side on this with eight tons of work, but no, you're gonna be a dick, so fuck you. No wonder this kid can't make bail or get family to help her buy meds or tube feeding formula.

[Rev_Saint]

Peace be to all, and just pray for these two. She is already home.

[Rotten Apple]

Read the whole post and read more about the D**n disease before posting again, or keep it to yourself

Peace

LMAO!

Seriously, if you think you can tell me not to post again, you are delusional!

I won't argue with you anymore because you obviously have as much experience with the disease as I do. I read and do my research before I post.

That "burden" of your future sister in law would do well to stay in the care of the system. They would guarantee a less painful existence for him. I'm afraid if she gets him back, she'll succeed in killing him next time.

[Jaded]

Awwwww....my first groan. I. Am. So. Proud. *sniff*

I HAVE read the article as I have stated to you on MORE than one fuckin' occasion.
I have asked you questions that you can not come up with an intelligent answer for.
Answer this one question for me...WHY IS THE CHILD DOING BETTER NOW THAT HE IS AWAY FROM HER?!?!
It would seem, to anyone with one functioning brain cell, that she was harming him!!
You talk in circles and make absolutely no sense at all. Maybe YOU should read the article you are throwing into everyone's face. Read ALL the words.

[Rotten Apple]

Awwwww....my first groan. I. Am. So. Proud. *sniff*


Jaded! You got your groan cherry popped by a REVEREND. :eek:

Gross!!!

[Jaded]

I know. I feel the need for a long, hot shower now. And maybe a lawsuit. ;)

[impqueen]

Jaded! You got your groan cherry popped by a REVEREND. :eek:

Gross!!!

Goddamn. reminds me of first grade Sunday School.

[TalkingJesus]

Jaded! You got your groan cherry popped by a REVEREND. :eek:

Gross!!!

What, is he Catholic??

[Rotten Apple]

From Nancy Grace (who I think is a hose bag)

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/04/01/grace.starved.boy.cnn

[Miss. Hill]

There is no argument to be had here! The child is doing better now that he is NOT in her care! Nothing more to say!

[impqueen]

From Nancy Grace (who I think is a hose bag)

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/04/01/grace.starved.boy.cnn

So Erin told police that she just "wasn't ready to be a mother." Which is exactly what I said pages ago, back before I got told that only men could be reverends.

Um, sounds kind of intentional given that statement. Especially given that Jayden is doing so much better and is reportedly gaining weight now that his mother no longer has custody.

[Rev_Saint]

Erin is at the hospital with Jayden, and
To all that care, according to what Erin's step father told us, that Jayden is still having a hard time, his lungs continue to fill with fluid. Again they are not sure how long he will be able to survive.. Blessings to all, whose prayers are with these two.

[impqueen]

So... I wonder if I oughta put her on the front page. I mean, after all, since we're so hateful in the forums. Maybe she'd have more luck on the front page. I had thought about it earlier, but then I was gonna be nice, but then I thought, yeah, but Jayden might die due to her lack of care for him.. I keep going back and forth. Any thoughts?

Honestly, was anyone in that family helping Erin care for Jayden BEFORE she nearly killed him?

What do you guys think? Front page, or no? Because it's really either front page the story or take the Reverend's groan button and show him how to really use it in Swivel's God thread (http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2585).

[Rev_Saint]

It matters not what you say to me or about me. It makes no difference. I will continue to keep updating Jayden's condition as we get it. We are waiting for Erin to return home from the hospital to learn more accurate details. Peace to all.

[impqueen]

What you're not understanding, Reverend, is that we DO care about Jayden, or we wouldn't have commented on this story in the first place. Our concern here is for children.

At 15, Erin was a child who should never have been saddled with the responsibility for a sick baby, but she was. Now she is a young woman who, by her own statement, "wasn't ready to be a mother" and didn't give her son his tube feedings, his needed meds, or even basic turning and skin care.

She hasn't lost half HER body weight. She doesn't have skin ulcers or even a "diaper rash". She hasn't been left without basic human care. Her son WAS. He nearly died, may die still due to her lack of care. His case, according to police, was "the worst case of neglect" they had EVER SEEN. And believe me, they see neglect a lot.

And for you to continue to excuse that and make excuses for Erin and her family is a sin against that little boy. Erin is guilty of neglecting and nearly killing her son. If he dies, I can assure you more charges will be filed. Her husband has to share some blame here. Her parents have to share some blame here. Everyone who knew she was overwhelmed but chose to ignore it has to share some blame here.

But in the end, he is HER child, HER responsibility, and it will be on her head if he dies due to her starvation, dehydration, and lack of basic human decency toward her child. Just because you don't like hearing it doesn't make it less true.

Now, that said, I do want updates on Jayden as you or anyone else gets them. I care about him, and I do hope his quality of life improves and that what time he has left will be less painful than his last few months have been.

[Lizard]

It's the avatar, the avatar creeps me out...is that...Harry Potter in drag?

[maryhaze]

ya know, "The Reverand" keeps saying this thing moved heaven & earth for that baby, but she was apparently too stupid to move his poor little body to prevent bedsores. & if at age 15 she kept her legs closed, she probably wouldn't be involved in this now & that baby wouldn't be suffering. it really pisses me off that i'll get up every 2 hours to feed & check on a baby field mouse & this bitch can't bother feeding & giving meds to an innocent child that she gave birth too.

[Lizard]

i'll get up every 2 hours to feed & check on a baby field mouse

Pictures! I want pictures!

[GoldenChild20k]

Look, I'm the first person to defend parents of profoundly disabled children in cases of suspected neglect...because I AM a parent of a profoundly disabled child, and I know how very very difficult it is to deal with a damaged child day in and day out, and how sometimes their condition can make them appear to have been neglected or abused.

My son was born at 26 weeks, weighing 686 grams. He came home after nearly six months in hospital on oxygen and with many many other problems including severe feeding difficulties. I was 23, with a three year old, one son buried in another state (died of congenital heart defect at birth), and one extremely high needs child. For a very long time he was just about impossible to feed, and I didn't have the luxury of a feeding tube (yes that's right, I said luxury...after spending hours upon hours dripping enriched breastmilk down my son's throat so that he could get enough calories, having a feeding tube would have been pure indulgence for me). To this day, even though his feeding issues have resolved (because of my persistence and hard work) he still only weighs around 35 lbs at seven years old. But he's healthy and happy, even though he has moderate to severe quadripareisis cerebral palsy due to his prematurity.

Anyway, I'm just saying all of this so that Rev Saint understands that I do know the life of a parent to a profoundly disabled child, I do understand how difficult it is, and that a child's medical condition can have a profound impact on their life, and outsiders often can't see everything that is going on in that kind of situation. Things may appear to be something other than they are. I do understand all of that.

BUT.

I really don't think it applies to this case. Yes, she should have had more support, yes she has had to shoulder a burden that no person deserves, let alone a young girl. That doesn't change the fact that she was the one person responsible for this boy and she failed him abysmally. Finding everything too hard too handle, and not having the strength and support and resources to continue to care for your child properly is not in itself a failure, but not doing anything about that IS a failure! She had to have known that she wasn't coping, yet she didn't do anything about it. As his mother she should have moved heaven and earth to ensure that he got the right care, especially if she couldn't provide it for him herself.

I guarantee you, and everyone else here can witness this, if I ever got to the point with my son where I was unable to cope with it all, and was at risk of causing him harm or neglect, I would hand him over to some one who could do better straight away. Hopefully that would be a family member, but if not, I'd march myself right down to the authorities and hand my child over, for his own good.

And I love this child with every breath that is in my body, so don't think it would be easy for me. It would kill me to have to admit that his needs were more than I could meet, but when it comes down to it, meeting his needs is exactly what I as his mother have to do. So if can't do that myself, I don't get to sit on my arse and say "Oh well, I tried, it's too hard", throw my hands up in the air and ignore the situation. I HAVE to make that right, whether by lifting my game, asking for help, or accepting that I can't do it and relinquishing him to others.

Erin had exactly the same choices, and what she chose to do led to her son's current state. I think that is unforgivable, and I think it is an utter tragedy that this precious child has had to spend four years of what will ultimately be a short and painful life, in the care of someone who was so detached from his needs that he ended up like this.

[impqueen]

Golden, you're my hero. :love: I'd thank you six times if i could.

[Jaded]

GoldenChild....you are awesome!! :D

[GoldenChild20k]

:oops: aww shucks guys, thanks

[Lynntoast]

Is it just me or does RevSaint seem happy that the baby is not doing well today? Is he happy the baby is not doing well because he thinks it will prove a point? Sick Bastard if that is true. :(

[LissencephalyOne]

Golden - Its amazing to me that mothers of severely disabled children cannot connect the dots with Erin's story. Maybe that's because, although similar in some respects, many disabilities have problems unique to their diagnosis. To compare a child with cerebral palsy to a child with lissencephaly is the equivilant of comparing a Honda to a Boeing 747. No comparison. I think you are all failing to realize that this is a child with only brain stem function. The feeding problems Jayden is experiencing comes from his brain. Our experts agree that Jayden is not absorbing his food/medications/fluids due to emptying problems. In a nutshell - Erin can load a wheelbarrow of Pediasure into Jayden and it won't do any good. The brain is not sending the proper signals to the stomach to allow it to work. When a person wastes away from cancer - well, that's too bad, but we accept it. Society cannot or will not accept this progression from a child. The statement that Erin admittedly denied her child food, medications, etc is simply not true. Erin, in fact urged the physicians to admit Jayden. Erin took her child to another hospital. Erin requested another physician when Jayden's feeding problems were not resolved.

To say Erin had the same choices that you and I had, etc ... Did she really? Where is Jayden's case manager? Where is Erin's nursing care? Why was she not told about or placed on the Waiver Program?

Would we have handled the situation differently? Probably so. My son (with lissencephaly) vomitted 30-40 times a day for 18 months. They tried everything from predigested formulas to feeding one hour on - one hour off. Nothing worked. He was 2 years old and weighed 12 pounds. Two years, 4 hospitals, and 3 surgeries later a J-tube was placed. Problem solved. And you need to understand my son was doctored at IU Med Center. The third top medical school in the country. I was not an 18-19 year old girl demanding treatment either. All mothers of severely disabled children know convincing a physician something is not quite right is not an easy task. Thankfully I had the backbone, education and Blue Cross to back me up. Did Erin have that luxury? We all know, although illegal, Medicaid patients ARE treated differently.

Some food for thought - Jayden obviously was severely underweight most of his life. At the least - when he was at the hospital in Dec - why didn't the doctor run extensive GI studies on this boy? Why was he not transferred to the nearest Children's Hospital that specializes in feeding problems of the profoundly retarded? Jayden's physicians hold some accountability.

My son has managed to surpass the odds - he's 21 years old. (Average age is 5) I am not so smug as to say it's because I am such a great mother. It was a lot of work, a huge support system from family, an awesome team of medical professionals, a truckload of money and a lot of PURE DUMB LUCK! There were many things that happened that were out of our control - only the grace of God pulled my son through those times. And yes, my son has had a bedsore. They are pretty unavoidable when you're severely underweight. And bedsores don't just come from laying. They come from sitting on chairs, rubbed by wheelchair attachments, etc. But hey, I could afford the $10,000 air pressure reduction mattress (not covered by medicaid). Did Erin have that choice too?

I am not dismissing your opinion. I have met 1000's of families of children with lissencephaly. Some truly are crackpots. But - I spoke with Erin and she's not one of them. I will admit I was surprised. I truly expected to talk to a scared, weak little girl. Had I not known she was 19, I never would have guessed it. She was very articulate, extremely knowledgable of Jayden's condition, and truly heartsick that she could not be with her child.

I wish you knew what I know and have seen what I have about lissencephaly. If you did - you would realize that the simple fact that Jayden is 4 years old and weighs 10 pounds and is still alive PROVES Erin is doing something right. Most children with the MDS syndrome of lissencephaly never see their second birthday. God help all of us mothers of disabled children if someone were looking in our windows. Connect the dots .... not all media is fair and balanced.

Reverend if you read this ... you know how to contact me. God Speed to Erin and Jayden.

[Rev_Saint]

I don't know what else to say... She is only human.

If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her ,<John 8:7>

[GoldenChild20k]

To say Erin had the same choices that you and I had, etc ... Did she really? Where is Jayden's case manager? Where is Erin's nursing care? Why was she not told about or placed on the Waiver Program?

Where is my son's? Where is my nursing care? What the hell is a Waiver Program? I do this on my own, and yes, she did have exactly the same choices as me.


Would we have handled the situation differently? Probably so. My son (with lissencephaly) vomitted 30-40 times a day for 18 months. They tried everything from predigested formulas to feeding one hour on - one hour off. Nothing worked. He was 2 years old and weighed 12 pounds. Two years, 4 hospitals, and 3 surgeries later a J-tube was placed. Problem solved. And you need to understand my son was doctored at IU Med Center. The third top medical school in the country. I was not an 18-19 year old girl demanding treatment either. All mothers of severely disabled children know convincing a physician something is not quite right is not an easy task. Thankfully I had the backbone, education and Blue Cross to back me up. Did Erin have that luxury? We all know, although illegal, Medicaid patients ARE treated differently.

Here I have to concede, I know nothing about the American medical system. I do know though that if my child was deteriorating as quickly as Jayden was, I'd not leave the hospital until they did something. I've done it before, when my son was sick and I was being brushed off as a hysterical parent. I made them admit him, and as it turned out he was very ill and would probably have died if I'd listened to them and gone home. But I listened to my maternal instincts and insisted they do something. Jayden lost nearly two kilograms in the past six months before this hospitalisation, and for someone as little as he is, that's a drastic amount of weight to lose. If she was doing absolutely everything she could, and he still was experiencing this, AND she was haunting the hospital, I could accept that she bears no culpability in this. However, in the charge sheet/warrant application whatever, she herself says that she feels she wasn't doing her best, and that he needed more than she could provide. Well if that's the case, then why was he lost to follow up?


Some food for thought - Jayden obviously was severely underweight most of his life. At the least - when he was at the hospital in Dec - why didn't the doctor run extensive GI studies on this boy? Why was he not transferred to the nearest Children's Hospital that specializes in feeding problems of the profoundly retarded? Jayden's physicians hold some accountability.

I agree, they do hold some accountability.

My son has managed to surpass the odds - he's 21 years old. (Average age is 5) I am not so smug as to say it's because I am such a great mother.

Implying that I am? Very subtle insult there, you should congratulate yourself.

only the grace of God pulled my son through those times.

Fuck that bullshit, he saves some and not others? Sorry to offend, but fuck off with that shit. Believe it if you will but don't fucking try and tell me that your son survived because of the grace of God, because that means he killed my innocent newborn son by refusing to grant his grace to him. So shove that shit where it fits.

And yes, my son has had a bedsore. They are pretty unavoidable when you're severely underweight. And bedsores don't just come from laying. They come from sitting on chairs, rubbed by wheelchair attachments, etc. But hey, I could afford the $10,000 air pressure reduction mattress (not covered by medicaid). Did Erin have that choice too?

My son is severely underweight too, and has major mobility issues. I know all about pressure sores. I don't have two dimes to rub together so no air pressure reduction mattress at ten thousand dollars for me. I make do with foam offcuts to pad his wheelchair and everything else. You seem to assume that I am well off, and have no idea about this girls socioeconomic circumstances. Just for your info, you're wrong.


I am not dismissing your opinion. I have met 1000's of families of children with lissencephaly. Some truly are crackpots. But - I spoke with Erin and she's not one of them. I will admit I was surprised. I truly expected to talk to a scared, weak little girl. Had I not known she was 19, I never would have guessed it. She was very articulate, extremely knowledgable of Jayden's condition, and truly heartsick that she could not be with her child.

I don't doubt that she is. I would be too in the same situation. But I still think she is at the very very least partially responsible because of her inaction. She may very well have been a very good mother to him in the past, but I do think that she has completely burnt out and was incapable of giving him the care and attention he needed when he was in this condition. Would we accept a nurse caring for our child to just sleep through his medication times and then give them later on when they wake up? Especially when they are in such a serious condition and obviously getting worse? No, of course not, so why should I have to accept that same behaviour from Erin?

No, sorry, it's not good enough for me. But then again, that is my right to have that opinion, and you may be assured that if more facts come out that lead me to think that Erin HAS been badly done by in this situation I will be the first to change that opinion.

[impqueen]

No, sorry, it's not good enough for me. But then again, that is my right to have that opinion, and you may be assured that if more facts come out that lead me to think that Erin HAS been badly done by in this situation I will be the first to change that opinion.

GoldenChild, have I mentioned that you're my HERO? You are. I've been a hospice nurse for terminal and severely disabled children. I know what you do every day, I know what Erin had to do with what appears to be NO family help, and I appreciate that, I really do.

What I can't wrap my head around is Erin just going "well, it got to be too much" and then not doing anything about it. And if she truly is not guilty here, then who is? Her parents? Her family? Her husband? HIS family? Sounds to me like there's plenty of shame to go around, and that's the second time I've said that today on two totally different cases.

It's high time people around these cases start stepping in. My initial sympathies were with Erin in this because frankly, I thought it sucked that she seemed to have so little support. But these people posting in her defense: where the hell were THEY when she needed them? But noooo, they couldn't be bothered until her child nearly died, and now they're here acting like we're the bad guys. Pfui and pfft and I call shenanigans.

I've seen mothers live in one bedroom trailers where the one bedroom was the baby's and the mom slept in the kitchen at 16 because she had to sleep somewhere and her baby was more important. I've had moms who, at 18, got up every two hours to make sure I was there doing the feedings right. At 18. Horribly depressed, beaten by her boyfriend who nearly killed her kid, but she was up every damn night even though she worked double shifts six days a week. I saw heroic young mothers every damn day - some of them had children who didn't BREATHE on their own, much less eat or move or make eye contact or do anything other than lie there with their brains protruding from what should have been their skulls. Erin is not a hero, Erin is a tragedy, and Erin does not need to parent this child - IF he lives.

If Jayden does live, he'll likely go into the foster care system where someone like me will be there to see that he's fed, changed, medicated and turned at 2 am. If Erin had done that, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

[Miss. Hill]

Goldenchild, after reading your post I am in awe! You sound like an amazing mother, unselfish and realistic.

I agree with Imp, your a hero!

[Rotten Apple]

Maybe if Goldenchild20K weren't so evil god might grant her a little grace. Sounds more like a snake than a hero to me.

You are an idiot.

Erin has th e wool pulled over all your eyes. She wanted that baby dead. Maybe not now that she has your attention.

Where the hell were all of you when she was "overwhelmed?"

Nowhere.

[IHaveNoClue]

Do you even know how to read? My post had nothing to do with Erin. My post was directed at Goldenchild20K for saying grace of god was f'ing b* If you defend her for her comment you are just as deranged. No wonder he doesn't respond to her prayers.

[TalkingJesus]

Do you even know how to read? My post had nothing to do with Erin. My post was directed at Goldenchild20K for saying grace of god was f'ing b* If you defend her for her comment you are just as deranged. No wonder he doesn't respond to her prayers.

I happen to know God quite well, and I also happen to know that he has you blocked.

[Rotten Apple]

Do you even know how to read? My post had nothing to do with Erin. My post was directed at Goldenchild20K for saying grace of god was f'ing b* If you defend her for her comment you are just as deranged. No wonder he doesn't respond to her prayers.

LOL!!

Can you read? My post was directed at YOU. You are a fucking IDIOT.

She has done everything right and has her kid.

Erin's kid almost died and her ass ended up in jail where she belonged.

Who does it look like your GOD favors now?

[IHaveNoClue]

Oh, so you can ridicule god but not a poster. hmmm. Crawl back in your trailers.

[dop]

Uggg... more christ nuts spreading their God's hate :rolleyes: Retards

[Lizard]

Do you even know how to read? My post had nothing to do with Erin. My post was directed at Goldenchild20K for saying grace of god was f'ing b* If you defend her for her comment you are just as deranged. No wonder he doesn't respond to her prayers.

What the fuck are you talking about? This is your first post. Who the hell are you?

[Lizard]

Oh, so you can ridicule god but not a poster. hmmm. Crawl back in your trailers.

Sure we can, watch:

Hey, Morbid, you can't shoot the bird for shit, you asshole!

[TalkingJesus]

Oh, so you can ridicule god but not a poster. hmmm. Crawl back in your trailers.

See, I told you God didn't like you NoClue.

[Rotten Apple]

Oh, so you can ridicule god but not a poster. hmmm. Crawl back in your trailers.

Yep. That's pretty much it.

This poster exists. Breathes. Has a family and cares for it.

God? Eh?

Crawl back under your rock. You are disgusting.

[gprime]

You are an idiot.

Erin has th e wool pulled over all your eyes. She wanted that baby dead. Maybe not now that she has your attention.

Where the hell were all of you when she was "overwhelmed?"

Nowhere.

Idiots are, I believe, more evolved than this peon. This GetaClue moron ought to be banned from breeding, and locked in a trash can.

[dop]

Heres the thing, you can ridicule both God and posters but posters being real beings have the ability to figth back God on the other hand being a figment of your imagination cant.

Example:

God, I fart in your general direction. I dare you throw a ligthning on me with your infinite power.

TJ, I doubt your magical powers to turn water into burbon, I dare you to groan me.

See him groan, se me not die to God's migth.

[TalkingJesus]

Heres the thing, you can ridicule both God and posters but posters being real beings have the ability to figth back God on the other hand being a figment of your imagination cant.

Example:

God, I fart in your general direction. I dare you throw a ligthning on me with your infinite power.

TJ, I doubt your magical powers to turn water into burbon, I dare you to groan me.

See him groan, se me not die to God's migth.

I can't groan you dop, I like you. I only grone twits like NoClue.

[IHaveNoClue]

No education running rampant with you. Or do you say y'all.

[Lizard]

No education running rampant with you.

This isn't even a real sentence. The "lack of education" cannot "run rampant."

Although I will say, I could almost see Yoda saying something like this..."The education, it is not strong in you, young Skywalker."

[dop]

I can't groan you dop, I like you. I only grone twits like NoClue.

See, now thats how a real loving deitity behaves. Not like NoClue's evil God.

All praise the Talking Jesus.

[Totemic]

No education running rampant with you. Or do you say y'all.

So now we are stooping to an elementary school yard scratch fest? Why is it when someone brings up religion, the psychos come like flies?

TJ, tell your father to bring back the old testament shit. Maybe then this world won't be so fucked up.

[Mom of 4]

Wow I see someone at the asylum left the door to the computer room unlocked. Better run along now Clueless one or you might miss your nightly meds. :out:

[KillBill20]

You trying to verbally attack me now? Seems like it doesn't matter how hard it is on all on us. Closed minded individuals who refuse to see what Erin has dealt with. Please don't try to judge your disabled children, or your experiences to try to prove a point. None of you have had to deal with a situation such as this. I am not defending Erin for everything, but she did try to get help for him months ago, and again, she tries to get help, and now shes a bad person, because the system failed them both. So what ever anyone thinks, or feels, doesn't matter..

And no I pray that Jayden makes it, and on the other hand I have to wonder if it would be better for him, and her. I think she has done a heck of a job. And lots of other people do as well.

I don't know what else to say... She is only human.

If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her ,<John 8:7>

I want you to know that you're exactly like a character I created for a project I'm writing. I thought up a guy named "Preacher" who twists bible verses around to prove his points, here is an small sample:

Gentleman

Within the mists of the brothers argument they hadn’t noticed the tall black figure of a man now standing in front of them.

He spoke softly but with a harsh tone. All the while heightening the ever growing tension within the room.

When you lay siege to a city for a long time, fighting against it to capture it, do not destroy its trees by putting an ax to them, because you can eat their fruit. Do not cut them down. Are the trees of the field people, that you should besiege them? Deuteronom 20:19

The man spoke in twisted bible verses.

Gentlemen I assure you Robert wants nothing but the best for you both. He has no reason to double cross. No reason to lie

His name is Emmanuel Cross. Although he prefers to be known simply as The Preacher. The right hand man of Robert Glass. They say if you double-cross The Preacher no prayer will save you.

So please... continue speaking like this, its inadvertently helping me with my writings!

~Kyle

[AnalBreeze]

Lately, everytime I come home from work I have to play catch up with you guys!
This was one hell of a read, Way to go everyone... Nobody messes with the Demons! :D


Who the hell is IHaveNoClue? :rolleyes:

[Lizard]

God, I fart in your general direction.

http://i26.tinypic.com/fuuy6b.jpg

(Look at the eyes...is this a pedo-kitty???)

[AnalBreeze]

http://i26.tinypic.com/fuuy6b.jpg

(Look at the eyes...is this a pedo-kitty???)

Looks like this guys kitty!

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc57/Kim1080/15733814.jpg

[Lizard]

Looks like this guys kitty!

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc57/Kim1080/15733814.jpg

How dare you insult an innocent little kitty like that!

[Angel]

AnalBreeze and Lizard, Y'all funny as hell! LMAO!!!:rofl:

[swivel]

Just so you guys know, GetAClueU has reported some of your rude posts in this thread, and I am very disappointed in the lot of you.

Where did you people learn such foul language? How can you treat a child of the one true God my savior Jesus Christ Lord of all, shepherd of sheep in such a foul manner?

I will not be surprised if Killroy bans several of you for your outright hostility towards this angel, who has descended into the bowels of our site with a message of peace and understanding.

God bless you all, even those of you who do not deserve it.

[Rotten Apple]

I will not be surprised if Killroy bans several of you for your outright hostility towards this angel, who has descended into the bowels of our site with a message of peace and understanding.



Is Killroy God? :eek:

Because I got struck by lightening when I walked out the house this morning.

It totally fucked up my hair...bastard. :(

[impqueen]

Just so you guys know, GetAClueU has reported some of your rude posts in this thread, and I am very disappointed in the lot of you.

Where did you people learn such foul language? How can you treat a child of the one true God my savior Jesus Christ Lord of all, shepherd of sheep in such a foul manner?

I will not be surprised if Killroy bans several of you for your outright hostility towards this angel, who has descended into the bowels of our site with a message of peace and understanding.

God bless you all, even those of you who do not deserve it.

Bless me, Swivel, for I have sinned. It has been about ten hours since my last confession, although there was plenty of sinning done in the meantime. (See pics for details.)

Last night, after half a Vicodin for the busted elbow and three glasses of red wine to enhance my communion, I accidentally-on-drunken-purpose hard-deleted NoClue's post in which he or she called GoldenChild an "evil snake" whose baby died because Golden was "evil" and "God doesn't like" her.

To which I called shenanigans and bullshit, and pushed a couple of little buttons which made that post go away eternally. I did then call the Killroy on my personal Admin Land Line To Heaven and asked for his forgiveness, and was not assigned penance at that time but rather told to stop that shit and go sober up, which I did after some more sin which might not even be sin since it was marital in nature and is therefore probably exempt.

I have never deleted someone's post, or edited it, without their permission IN MY LIFE. Never. I was so horrified by my rash action that I was near tears. But let's face it, folks, an asshat who can say that to our Golden after her beautiful posts and heartfelt sentiment for the true victim in this case deserves a little damn censorship. I promise never to do it again, but in my defense, I did it under the "That Post Needed Killin'" clause.

So, Swivel, I confess. I am a bad, bad imp and deserve to be punished. Do what you must. I'll not complain.

Penitently Yours,
ImpQueen

[swivel]

So, Swivel, I confess. I am a bad, bad imp and deserve to be punished. Do what you must. I'll not complain.

Penitently Yours,
ImpQueen

That's right, my child. Let it out.

Lower.

Lower.

Yes, my child... you WILL be forgiven.

[impqueen]

That's right, my child. Let it out.

Lower.

Lower.

Yes, my child... you WILL be forgiven.

Um, Swivel? That doesn't look like the Body of Christ to me at ALL.

[Miss. Hill]

THANK YOU, you guys have truly made my morning! I have been having an awful couple weeks, home issues, problems with my son, bronchitis, and my dog died! So I have been really miserable. I laughed so hard my juice truly came out my nose, really! It burned by the way!

THANKS :D

[impqueen]

THANK YOU, you guys have truly made my morning! I have been having an awful couple weeks, home issues, problems with my son, bronchitis, and my dog died! So I have been really miserable. I laughed so hard my juice truly came out my nose, really! It burned by the way!

THANKS :D


awwww, D, we love you. :love: I'm so sorry about all your junk lately, but we're totally here for you. Especially the guys. ;)

[Angel]

I will not be surprised if Killroy bans several of you for your outright hostility towards this angel, who has descended into the bowels of our site with a message of peace and understanding.

.

How dare you use my name in vain! I am the only Angel allowed here, and if you do anything so disrespectful to me again, I will fly over your house and piss on you as you leave for work! :whistle:

Sorry about the lightning thing this morning, Kath. I asked for Swivel to be targeted, but with all of the atmospheric changes, it went a little off course, I guess. :ange:

[Morbid]

Hey, Rev...

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9082/m57adb757cc02a27ddf0bbaxl8.jpg

Gotcha!

[impqueen]

I just C& P'd from my front page update:

Um, new info.


According to the Santa Rosa County Clerk’s Office (http://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/docket?county=57&data=3cffcc6d07bab54ad0b0ca98d7004b8f), Erin Brittany Markes is also known as Erin Brittni Beckett. And that Erin has a Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/wishful88). Which links indirectly to Reverend Saint’s Myspace, among others.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3706/aaaaerinbeckettvw9.jpg


There are no pictures of Jayden Beckett or Markes anywhere that I’ve found yet. I am very curious as to the identity of the young man with Erin in the picture. And yes, that is a crib Erin is leaning on in the picture above.

The charge for which Erin will be tried is :

827.03.3b CHILD NEGLECT,CAUSE GREAT HARM,PERM. DISABILITY/DISFIGURE

[Lizard]

http://i29.tinypic.com/2daf8ev.jpg

I don't know, RevSaint, I'm not sure I would've picked that shade of blue to paint my walls. But now we get a sense of where you might've been sitting while typing your less-than-helpful little missives.

[Lizard]

http://i30.tinypic.com/33f48w8.jpg

Yeah, who is this guy?

[impqueen]

I believe his name is Jonathan and he's her new Florida boyfriend. Not that there'd be motive or anything.

[Lizard]

http://i27.tinypic.com/110i3px.jpg

This is one of his dogs. Good looking dog. Wonder if its behavior helps or hurts pitties' rep. Both of his dogs have this type of heavy ass chain on.

[nurseronda]

Hey, Rev...

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9082/m57adb757cc02a27ddf0bbaxl8.jpg

Gotcha!
Note to self: If I decide to kill anyone, delete My Space, Facebook and other accounts on the internet before the crime. But then again, if I commit a crime you can have fun with my sites....kinda makes the post on DD just that much interesting...:D

[Lizard]

Note to self: If I decide to kill anyone, delete My Space, Facebook and other accounts on the internet before the crime. But then again, if I commit a crime you can have fun with my sites....kinda makes the post on DD just that much interesting...:D

You don't even have to kill someone! You just have to defend a neglectful mother on D'D and insult a valued poster....

[nurseronda]

You don't even have to kill someone! You just have to defend a neglectful mother on D'D and insult a valued poster....
I only defend my way of thinking at times, but that usually gets me in enough trouble.
I would never want to insult any of my new friends on here, I just figured out how to add friends to my place on here a little over a week ago, but the my friend, relative who says their friend or relative is innocent without any proof drives me nuts....I love this site....I kind of think that I am addicted to it. It is one heck of a diet program, I take my laptop to work and on my lunch break, I look at the 300+ new posts, sometimes leaving my meal with only a few bites taken. Thanks Morbid and the rest of the gang for the new weight loss program...:D

[Rotten Apple]

Note to self: If I decide to kill anyone, delete My Space, Facebook and other accounts on the internet before the crime. But then again, if I commit a crime you can have fun with my sites....kinda makes the post on DD just that much interesting...:D

I'm not deleting mine either. I've already said that I am providing the site staff with my passwords so that they can make my profile more salacious if needed. I'm hoping that if I don't having any pouty kissy face photos or photos of me with devil horns on there by then, they will photoshop me some. :D

[nurseronda]

I'm not deleting mine either. I've already said that I am providing the site staff with my passwords so that they can make my profile more salacious if needed. I'm hoping that if I don't having any pouty kissy face photos or photos of me with devil horns on there by then, they will photoshop me some. :D
Eeeeeeeeeeeek, never thought of that before...lmao..Imagine me...Horny Nurse.:eek: ..Yep, that would get a laugh or two....:D

[TalkingJesus]

Um, Swivel? That doesn't look like the Body of Christ to me at ALL.


And Imp should know, for she has indeed seen the body of Christ.:D

[zander2008]

My mistake, meant April 16th. Use some common sense..

NO.

You NEED use some fucking common sense. I have handicapped child who is in wheelchair and have feeding tube. I gave birth at age 18 and I was not READY being a mother to handicapped child. BUT....I got my ass up and asked for HELP. I was ALONE. But I managed to move my fucking ass and asked for the help that I need the MOST. Because I LOVE my son and I want what's best for him. I don't give a fuck if I am straving or I have bedsores. I make 100% sure EVERYDAY that my son is in good condition, CLEAN, and fed..... THREE FUCKING TIMES A DAY! My son COME FIRST. PERIOD!

YOU PISSED ME OFF. I don't feel sorry for this fucking idiot big baby who uses this lame excuse, "oh you don't understand, I have handicapped child...." She let this innocent child straved. She chose not to get help. If this lady is one of my family members....shit, I will not even look at her. USE FUCKING COMMON SENSE FOR GOD'S SAKE.

[impqueen]

Welcome to the site, Zander! :biggrin:

[Mom of 4]

NO.

You NEED use some fucking common sense. I have handicapped child who is in wheelchair and have feeding tube. I gave birth at age 18 and I was not READY being a mother to handicapped child. BUT....I got my ass up and asked for HELP. I was ALONE. But I managed to move my fucking ass and asked for the help that I need the MOST. Because I LOVE my son and I want what's best for him. I don't give a fuck if I am straving or I have bedsores. I make 100% sure EVERYDAY that my son is in good condition, CLEAN, and fed..... THREE FUCKING TIMES A DAY! My son COME FIRST. PERIOD!

YOU PISSED ME OFF. I don't feel sorry for this fucking idiot big baby who uses this lame excuse, "oh you don't understand, I have handicapped child...." She let this innocent child straved. She chose not to get help. If this lady is one of my family members....shit, I will not even look at her. USE FUCKING COMMON SENSE FOR GOD'S SAKE.



Welcome Zander! Now tell us how you really feel. :D

[zander2008]

Have you noticed in her myspace that she read A Child Called It?

[impqueen]

Has it listed as her favorite book, even.

[Mom of 4]

Nice :rolleyes:

[aspartame]

Eeeeeeeeeeeek, never thought of that before...lmao..Imagine me...Horny Nurse.:eek: ..Yep, that would get a laugh or two....:D


HAHAA photoshop you wearing this
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e48/mechalet/secretheartsnurse-jv.jpg

[nurseronda]

HAHAA photoshop you wearing this
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e48/mechalet/secretheartsnurse-jv.jpg
Aspartame, you forgot to add the horns.....lmao

:D

[aspartame]

Aspartame, you forgot to add the horns.....lmao

:D

your hot!!!

*Cough Cough* i think im sick i need a nurse!!!

[KillBill20]

I love the way this thread has veered severely off topic. This is why I love the DD so much.

Who wants celebratory hot-dogs?

http://www.estatevaults.com/lm/%20%20Wienermobile.jpg

~Kyle

[Rotten Apple]

Looks like she is being represented by the firm that represented Jack Kevorkian.

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/article/13350

[KillBill20]

Looks like she is being represented by the firm that represented Jack Kevorkian.

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/article/13350

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_kevorkian_070531_ms.jpg

That article made it seem like the doctors are partially at fault as well.

~Kyle

[Harley_Tech]

Have you noticed in her myspace that she read A Child Called It?


Before you condemn the book based on it's title, I would suggest you read it. I have the entire series and it is good reading if you want to see the very dark side of some people.

The writer is an inspiration to many and quite frankly a hero in my book. He survived treatment as a child that no human or animal should have to endure.

If you read the first in his series, you will be compelled to read the rest.

R

[Lizard]

He survive treatment as a child that no human or animal should have to endure.

I think it's the irony that's shocking--she's accused of neglect, her favorite book being about heinous abuse....

[zander2008]

Before you condemn the book based on it's title, I would suggest you read it. I have the entire series and it is good reading if you want to see the very dark side of some people.

The writer is an inspiration to many and quite frankly a hero in my book. He survive treatment as a child that no human or animal should have to endure.

If you read the first in his series, you will be compelled to read the rest.

R


I already read it. (three of his books)

[Mom of 4]

Before you condemn the book based on it's title, I would suggest you read it. I have the entire series and it is good reading if you want to see the very dark side of some people.

The writer is an inspiration to many and quite frankly a hero in my book. He survived treatment as a child that no human or animal should have to endure.

If you read the first in his series, you will be compelled to read the rest.

R



I agree it's a very good book Harley. Like Lizard said i think it is just the irony that someone charged with neglect and abuse listed their favorite book as A Child Called It which of course is about abuse and neglect.:)

[zander2008]

I think it's the irony that's shocking--she's accused of neglect, her favorite book being about heinous abuse....


I guess she see the evil mother in the book as her role model....

[Harley_Tech]

I agree it's a very good book Harley. Like Lizard said i think it is just the irony that someone charged with neglect and abuse listed their favorite book as A Child Called It which of course is about abuse and neglect.:)

Is that her? I thought it was her buddy that was posting here before. Show exactly how much attention I'm paying. :)

Agree...how in the hell could anyone who has read that story let their child go without basic care.

Call me what you will, but I want very much to believe there is good in all people. My life experience tells me different, but I still want to believe it.

I'd love to have it shown to me that this girl tried her level best and the birth defect was simply more than she could possibly handle, and that she tried very hard to get her child the care needed.

I want to believe she did the very best she could with what education and resources she had available to her, but it sure does not look like she did. We could still learn that she did, and I keep hope alive that we will.

R

[nurseronda]

"Flowers in the Attic" must have been the previous favorite book.
:mad:

[Mom of 4]

"Flowers in the Attic" must have been the previous favorite book.
:mad:




Oh I loved all the V.C. Andrews books. I haven't read them in years.

[nurseronda]

Oh I loved all the V.C. Andrews books. I haven't read them in years.
Oh, I do too, especially when the mother gets what is coming to her in the end.

:D

Almost like this mother will be getting.

[Mom of 4]

Is that her? I thought it was her buddy that was posting here before. Show exactly how much attention I'm paying. :)

Agree...how in the hell could anyone who has read that story let their child go without basic care.

Call me what you will, but I want very much to believe there is good in all people. My life experience tells me different, but I still want to believe it.

I'd love to have it shown to me that this girl tried her level best and the birth defect was simply more than she could possibly handle, and that she tried very hard to get her child the care needed.

I want to believe she did the very best she could with what education and resources she had available to her, but it sure does not look like she did. We could still learn that she did, and I keep hope alive that we will.

R

I hear what you're saying Harley. I would like to hear she did everything possible for this little guy too. I also think there are other people who could have stepped in when they realized that she wasn't caring for him very well. The baby's dad and her family that she moved closer to for starters. Somebody must have noticed this child was malnourished and in pain from the bed sores.

[Lizard]

I'd love to have it shown to me that this girl tried her level best and the birth defect was simply more than she could possibly handle, and that she tried very hard to get her child the care needed.

I want to believe she did the very best she could with what education and resources she had available to her, but it sure does not look like she did. We could still learn that she did, and I keep hope alive that we will.

What scares me is the possibility that court actions may wind up being about the knowledge (or lack thereof) of the doctors who saw the baby about his condition and not about whether the mom was providing the care that her son needed.

[zander2008]

Is that her? I thought it was her buddy that was posting here before. Show exactly how much attention I'm paying. :)

Agree...how in the hell could anyone who has read that story let their child go without basic care.

Call me what you will, but I want very much to believe there is good in all people. My life experience tells me different, but I still want to believe it.

I'd love to have it shown to me that this girl tried her level best and the birth defect was simply more than she could possibly handle, and that she tried very hard to get her child the care needed.

I want to believe she did the very best she could with what education and resources she had available to her, but it sure does not look like she did. We could still learn that she did, and I keep hope alive that we will.

R

Believe me, there were some times when I felt so completely lost and want to give up on my son (who is handicapped)....but I know better than ignore my son's needs. I have the resources available to me. She probably had it too....she decided not to use it. It showed me that she did not have the ability to take care of her child....she should've turn her child over to someone who have experience with caring of handicapped children rather than letting the child straved near to death. I believe she did not try harder enough...

[Harley_Tech]

I already read it. (three of his books)

I have the resources available to me. She probably had it too....she decided not to use it. It showed me that she did not have the ability to take care of her child....she should've turn her child over to someone who have experience with caring of handicapped children rather than letting the child straved near to death. I believe she did not try harder enough...


See, here is example of your own doubt. "she probably had it too"..."she decided not to use it".

I don't know that she had resources available, or further that she recognized that she did have them if she did in fact have them available. We are talking about a child, with a child and at least an abbreviated education due to the timing of the child's birth.

Did she decide not to use the resources? Did she not recognize that she HAD resources available?

I don't know this girl's mental capacity. What this little guy got may well be all she was capable of. In that case, yes, those medical professionals who had contact with the boy had an absolute obligation to step in an get this child and mother a greater level of help.

If there is any truth at all to the messages stating that the child was in the hospital, as little as a few weeks before his death, for feeding issues then there are at least a couple of hospital administrators and lawyers telling doctors and nurses to keep their mouths shut on this.

Lets be honest here. How many special needs kids are waiting to be adopted? How many are waiting their entire childhood to be adopted? How many wait until they are too old for the system and are kicked out into the world on their own as young adults and no life training? How many of those end up on the front page of DD?

As much as we all say "I would have taken that child and loved it", truth is that special needs kids are not adopted or taken in by strangers as often as young, healthy babies are.

Just in case it is in question, I have not decided yet weather I think this girl deserves our scorn or our sympathy.

If her actions were cognizant thought and deliberate, I'll step forward to remove her skin with a rusty, dull razor in a very slow and painful way.

R

[Jaded]

I don't know that she had resources available, or further that she recognized that she did have them if she did in fact have them available. We are talking about a child, with a child and at least an abbreviated education due to the timing of the child's birth.

Did she decide not to use the resources? Did she not recognize that she HAD resources available?



Well, I'm not sure how far back in this post you have gone but according to the Rev Shit, er..I mean Saint, she had and did use services and resources when she lived in MO. He made a point to mention that not all of the childs medication cost was covered by Medicare in FL. and that's why he wasn't getting his seizure meds. So, I'm assuming that she at least had the mental capacity to care for her child while she lived in MO. What happened after she moved to FL?
The Rev also pointed out that she moved heaven and earth (or something like that) to keep this child healthy. She was obviously aware of what needed to be done to take care of him. There really is no excuse for him to be in that condition.

[Rev_Saint]

Hey, Rev...

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9082/m57adb757cc02a27ddf0bbaxl8.jpg

Gotcha!

http://gopetition.com/petitions/exonerate-erin.html

[Rotten Apple]

http://gopetition.com/petitions/exonerate-erin.html

I hope you are spreading that petition around on other sites too. Erin doesn't exactly have a bunch of supporters here.

[Jaded]

http://gopetition.com/petitions/exonerate-erin.html

Not even if ya paid me....

[sweet_misery]

http://gopetition.com/petitions/exonerate-erin.html

I'll pass.

[Melissa]

Golden, I am bowing down to you right now......you are amazing and so is your post:heart:

[Mom of 4]

http://gopetition.com/petitions/exonerate-erin.html



Not in a million years thanks. :no:

[zander2008]

See, here is example of your own doubt. "she probably had it too"..."she decided not to use it".

I don't know that she had resources available, or further that she recognized that she did have them if she did in fact have them available. We are talking about a child, with a child and at least an abbreviated education due to the timing of the child's birth.

Did she decide not to use the resources? Did she not recognize that she HAD resources available?

I don't know this girl's mental capacity. What this little guy got may well be all she was capable of. In that case, yes, those medical professionals who had contact with the boy had an absolute obligation to step in an get this child and mother a greater level of help.

If there is any truth at all to the messages stating that the child was in the hospital, as little as a few weeks before his death, for feeding issues then there are at least a couple of hospital administrators and lawyers telling doctors and nurses to keep their mouths shut on this.

Lets be honest here. How many special needs kids are waiting to be adopted? How many are waiting their entire childhood to be adopted? How many wait until they are too old for the system and are kicked out into the world on their own as young adults and no life training? How many of those end up on the front page of DD?

As much as we all say "I would have taken that child and loved it", truth is that special needs kids are not adopted or taken in by strangers as often as young, healthy babies are.

Just in case it is in question, I have not decided yet weather I think this girl deserves our scorn or our sympathy.

If her actions were cognizant thought and deliberate, I'll step forward to remove her skin with a rusty, dull razor in a very slow and painful way.

R

I said "probably" because I was not there to see if she had the resources. I can't say she did have it.

Either she had the resources or not, she is still a fool....it was her responsible to take care of her child. I can tell you what's this girl's mental capacity is....she's a fucking retarded. She left her child to starve without feeling guilty? Shit, if I did not give my son one of his meals, I'll be feeling guilty! If she said she was sorry for her actions....her actions spoke loud than her words. This kid almost die. No, she did not deserve our sympathy...never in a million years. JMO.

[zander2008]

http://gopetition.com/petitions/exonerate-erin.html



"This is out of mom’s control.."

"Erin is no criminal, no monster – but a victim of tragic circumstance..."

"Caring for a child with lissencephaly is a 24-hour-a day job. Most families have the luxury of an RN helping them. Erin did all of this on her own. She is a single – extremely young mother who, at the age of 15, was handed a severely sick, dying child with nothing but a pat on the back and a wish to do well...."

Of course, it is a 24 hour a day job. It is understood. But HOW HARD IS IT FEED CHILD THREE TIMES A DAY? At least, she should have the fucking efforts rather than sitting her fucking ass, fixing her hair and taking fucking poses for the pictures on her myspace. My kid don't always eat but I still give my efforts to feed him everyday at breakfast, lunch and dinner! And I give him his medicates EVERYDAY....never miss one single fucking pill. No, she's not monster...but she is not a victim. What she did, is criminal. Starvtion is criminal. Not giving him medicates, is criminal. It is called child neglect;

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Neglect means to leave uncared for or to leave undone.

[KillBill20]

http://gopetition.com/petitions/exonerate-erin.html

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/westman00/n16919835_36211222_4614.jpg

~Kyle

[Jaded]

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/westman00/n16919835_36211222_4614.jpg

~Kyle

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
Thanx KillBill...couldn't have said it better myself!

[KillBill20]

You don't know how long I've been waiting to use that photo :D

~Kyle

[Jaded]

You don't know how long I've been waiting to use that photo :D

~Kyle

You found the perfect home for it! :D

[sherrz]

Hey Rev, don't think that anyone's really going to want to sign that petition here, mate.

Does anyone have any updates on how the little boy is doing?

[Jaded]

Hey Rev, don't think that anyone's really going to want to sign that petition here, mate.

Does anyone have any updates on how the little boy is doing?

I've been searching for some sort of update but, now everytime I look her up I just get the same old info where she has been released, has a great attorney, blah blah blah. I'm curious to know how he is progressing and whether or not he continues to improve. Got my fingers crossed that he's getting better.

[GoldenChild20k]

Sheriff's Office report (apol. if it's been posted before).

http://ricksblog.biz/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/markes.pdf

[Lizard]

Sheriff's Office report (apol. if it's been posted before).

http://ricksblog.biz/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/markes.pdf

I'm out of thanks, someone please thank this woman!!!

[nurseronda]

I'm out of thanks, someone please thank this woman!!!

Giggles.............I wish I could. :D

[Harley_Tech]

http://gopetition.com/petitions/exonerate-erin.html


Dude, dudette, what ever da hell you are! Have you been smoking your underwear again?

R

[Angel]

I'm out of thanks, someone please thank this woman!!!

I did! I did! Can I have my lollipop now?:whistle:

[Superman's Cape]

I think it's the irony that's shocking--she's accused of neglect, her favorite book being about heinous abuse....

I agree. The similarities lead to a potential motive and defense that her attorney can use.

Synopsis of the book "A Child Called It":

The book describes the worsening abuse that Pelzer suffered at the hand of his mother and her alcoholism. Most speculate that she had some other addiction or a chemical imbalance but none is known. Among the many incidents discussed is that his mother attempted to burn Dave on a stove when he was 8 years old. It was at this point his mother began to make him go without food for extended periods of time. The abuse gets worse and David is forced to sleep in the cellar and perform hard labor. He got an average of half a meal a day on a good day. When David was 10, she also stabbed him in the stomach—accidentally, as Pelzer notes in the book—and did not take him to the hospital (though she did take care of the wound herself). By this point he was no longer considered part of the family and lived in the basement, denied basic contact, play, and food. His mother stated that she did not want Dave to interact with "her family".

Her attorney can package this up nicely by sending her to the "right" shrink find an appropriate dsm-IV axis and say she became obsessed about the book and created her own little play of her own with her child as the main star.

A good case of "Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome". I'm sure mom got lots of sympathy from friends and family about her poor little child who she helped waste away.

[Lizard]

I'm sure mom got lots of sympathy from friends and family about her poor little child who she helped waste away.

Stupid. If I wanted sympathy, I wouldn't keep my kid in the basement.

[michelle]

Seems like I missed all the fucking fun.

[Jaded]

Seems like I missed all the fucking fun.

I don't think the Rev is gone for good...
I'm sure we'll be hearing from him after her arraignment on the 16th.

[Superman's Cape]

I know how you folks love to post so here is this chicks petition started by her myspace buddies.

Exonerate-Erin (http://gopetition.com/petitions/exonerate-erin.html)

Anyone can sign it so I left my 2 cents as poster # 367 . I call it how I see it.

Signatures (http://gopetition.com/petitions/exonerate-erin/signatures.html)

I can pretty much guarantee that Social Services has worked with this woman in the past. A child with this kind of illness has many checks and balances in place - even though an overworked child welfare system can lose track of a child like this as well. Thank goodness the child was taken into custody.

We will never know the full truth of the matter due to juvenile records staying under lock and key. I used to also be a child abuse investigator - the worst job in my entire life - had to go through a couple of years of PTSD afterwards.

I love myspace. I can easily keep track of some of the knumb-nuts I work with now.

[Lizard]

Anyone can sign it so I left my 2 cents as poster # 367. I call it how I see it.

Holy shit, YOU'RE Jesus Christ? I thought he was already a regular poster here....

And for those of you who don't want to travel to the site to check out Cape's comment:

I asked for people to go forth and care for their children, not neglect or abuse them. We in the ministry of the eternal heaven are not adverse to incarceration for she is to take responsibility and be held accountable for her actions. We still use some old testament rules so she may be going to hell, but we may give her credit for time served if she truly repents and takes responsibility for her actions. We'll let her know when she reaches the pearly gates.

[Superman's Cape]

hehe,

I'm sure my comment will get deleted on the petition fairly quickly...I was bored.

I don't believe in a pure monotheistic religion - so in my book it's okay to have a few Jesus Christ's around for good luck. Anyone that hung out with hookers, drank wine, and partied down like its 1999 is okay with me since he left his children to be cared for by responsible adults.



Holy shit, YOU'RE Jesus Christ? I thought he was already a regular poster here....

And for those of you who don't want to travel to the site to check out Cape's comment:

I asked for people to go forth and care for their children, not neglect or abuse them. We in the ministry of the eternal heaven are not adverse to incarceration for she is to take responsibility and be held accountable for her actions. We still use some old testament rules so she may be going to hell, but we may give her credit for time served if she truly repents and takes responsibility for her actions. We'll let her know when she reaches the pearly gates.

[LissencephalyOne]

For Superman's Cape:

Sorry, but I had to delete your post from the petition - mainly because I couldn't verify Jesus Christ as a resident of the ISP addy. I did, however, copy the comment.
I figured it would come in handy the next time the unattended, wayward teenage terrorists in my neighborhood pull their crap. I'll just post your comment on their door - it sounds so much better than, "By the way, little Johnny set my cat on fire while you were at the office."

Thanks for the chuckle -

By the way - the Foundation started the petition. Not Erin's myspace friends.

[Jaded]

Freed from electronic monitoring......
Still no word on the the little guys condition.
Dependency hearing on May 7.

http://www.srpressgazette.com/news/markes_3377___article.html/santa_erin.html

[Jaded]

The criminal arraignment has been continued again until May 28th.

http://www.srpressgazette.com/news/markes_3632___article.html/national_county.html

Quote from above article.....

An update on the child's condition was given in court on Monday by officials representing the Florida Department of Children and Families.
“The child currently weighs about 16 lbs. He has lost around one pound over the last week and there seems to be in a gradual decline in his health," testified a DCF representive talking to Judge Marci Goodman.


Soooo...he obviously gained some weight while under the care of the hospital.

From same article......

DCF also states that the hospital has reported Markes has been hostile to staff who are caring for the child. “We have some concerns about the mental status of Markes, she has fallen off with cooperation and contact with us and now we have heard from the hospital that she is being hostile and angry,” says the official from DCF.

[Lynntoast]

DCF officials say Markes has missed her psychosocial evaluation with them and they have been unable to contact her at all this week.

http://www.srpressgazette.com/news/markes_3595___article.html/child_misses.html

I believe she just didn't want the responsibility of this child any more, so she was prepared to just let him starve, only she got caught.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

The criminal arraignment has been continued again until May 28th.

http://www.srpressgazette.com/news/markes_3632___article.html/national_county.html



I almost missed this in the article So Jaded linked:
“At this time we are still actively investigating the abuse allegations by interviewing doctors from the initial report of abuse as well as doctors and others regarding previous allegations of abuse in Missouri (where Markes lived before moving to Pace).

Re-read the front page stuff and didn't see mention of it there either.

I wonder if the move was a "geographical fix" on her part. If it was, it didn't work.

[Jaded]

They dropped the case.....

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/article/14659

But....
Quote from article:

Jaden remains in DCF custody, a matter separate from the criminal case. The dependency court system will determine whether Markes may regain custody or if Jaden is safer with the state. Patterson noted that the Family First Network and Children’s Medical Services will remain involved in his care.

He gained weight under a doctors care.....I hope she doesn't regain custody. She admitted her negligence. :(

[TheLittleFriend]

That's fucking stupid. :censored:

[Nell]

Wonder if the Rev will be back to tell us what idiots we are now. Geez, I so look forward to that.

[Mom of 4]

They dropped the case.....

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/article/14659

But....
Quote from article:



He gained weight under a doctors care.....I hope she doesn't regain custody. She admitted her negligence. :(



For that babies sake I pray she doesn't regain custody.

[Jaded]

Wonder if the Rev will be back to tell us what idiots we are now. Geez, I so look forward to that.

I'm pretty sure he will. I stand by my original opinion of Erin....I think she got tired of taking care of Jaden and just didn't even try as hard as she should have. If you read the memorandum linked to in the article, they state that her care of Jaden waned once she moved to Florida. She may have been a wonderful mother the first couple of years, but she definitely lost it in the last year or so. If she knew that she could no longer care for this boy, she should have handed him over to someone who could. The weight gain at the hospital really clinched it for me.

[Lizard]

The article also mentioned that the baby has been near death on more than one occasion at the hospital, and he's believed to be in the end stages of his disease.

[Jaded]

Quote from memorandum:

Erin Markes had been caring for Jaden, whose special needs were complicated and demanding his whole life. Up until her move to Florida, the medical records of Jaden's care show Erin was attentive and proactive in providing for his needs. However, the initial investigation by law enforcement and DCF seemed to indicate that since coming to Florida, Erin's efforts may have waned. The initial review by law enforcement of Jaden's extremely poor condition on March 13, coupled with Erin's short, sporadic history of providing for Jaden's medical care here in Florida, and Erin's admissions that she had not made the effort she knew she should have to take care of Jaden as best she could, provided cause for Erin's arrest on the child neglect charge.

It still seems to me that she just gave up.

[Lizard]

Oh, I totally agree with you, So Jaded. It just makes me sad--regardless of whether she regains custody, it doesn't sound as though he will be alive much longer.

[TheLittleFriend]

I came late for this...but I managed to read all of it. I just couldn't believe they dropped the case. Are they fucking blind or what? :nerd:

[petrina]

the part where it says that he gained weight in the hosp. and then lost some.... that is pretty common. When your body gets below healthy weight and then corrects with weight gain, it often over corrects and then re-corrects itself. if that makes sense. His weight may seesaw quite a bit as he - hopefully - builds up to a continually healthier "normal for him" weight.

and i live in mo - when rev was talking about "waiver" he means medicaid waiver. missouri medicaid does not usually cover home healthcare unless you have specific or compounded illnesses. then the WAIVE the home healthcare restriction. and they call that having waiver. and you have a waiver case manager who assesses your needs and schedules your home health nurse etc.. its cheaper than putting people in assisted living facilities.

in my line of work, everyone who qualifies for waiver gets it. im not sure if that is because they are hiv positive with severe needs (a very small percentage of hiv pos people need waiver bc of the meds), or because the state and local waiver teams are so dedicated to helping people get weaned off waiver if they can. but i have heard of people with other diagnoses told that they qualified for waiver but could not get it bc there was no money. still - i would think that they would put a child with such an intense disease and a perm feeding tube near the top of the list of priorities.

if florida doesnt have such a program, and if the family is going to continue to be its non-helpful self - then perhaps she should move back to mo. i always tell people that if they are on assistance programs, esp for health, they should research that before they move out of state to see what their benefits are there. you would be surprised at the differences.

oh - and i want a creamed corn wrestling smilie for the next thread where DDers and defenders of the accused go at it. : )

[Lizard]

oh - and i want a creamed corn wrestling smilie for the next thread where DDers and defenders of the accused go at it. : )

Don't know about the smilie, but I bet we can get Death Angel to Photoshop something nice for you....

[impqueen]

I said I'd update the article if the charge against Erin was dropped, and so I have. I even put it on the front page, top billing - because I am always willing to be wrong.

I wish I was happier about being wrong. But in this case i kind of think it's more to do with prosecutors realizing that there were problems with Erin's care of Jayden - but getting a conviction would be difficult, she'd do little time, and Jayden will die regardless.

It will be interesting to see whether Jayden is returned to his mother's custody. After all, she told investigators that she thought her son needed more care than she could give him. And honestly, I have no doubt he does. It just seems wrong to me that her lawyer is crowing about how Erin gets to "go back to her life", when Erin's son has no life to go back to.

Sigh.

[impqueen]

Wow.

I have gotten a ton of extremely interesting and very helpful information about this case from a source right there in the middle of it. After a number of emails and exchanges, I am going to be posting an article on the front page - a very different article than the one I posted the first time. This article will be accompanied by pictures of Jaden (yes, it's really spelled without the Y) and of Jaden with Erin.

I've always been adamant that I have no fear of being wrong - but it's not often I am so wrong in such a public place. If my source wants to identify herself, she is welcome to do so, but I won't be identifying her.

I'll have the front page article with pics up probably within the hour, including an update on Jaden's condition as of today.

[impqueen]

Front-page post is up! Erin Markes Didn't Starve Her Baby After All (http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/05/29/erin-markes-didnt-starve-her-baby-after-all/)

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/4902/jaden3erinir4.jpg

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6701/jaden1ax7.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5775/jaden2zm2.jpg

[Becca]

That poor beautiful child. I hope he, and she, are able to find some peaceful, painfree moments together in the time he has left.

[Jaded]

Thank you Imp and unidentified source. It is wonderful to have some of the confusion cleared up. I too wish it would have come earlier.

This story was especially hard on me for one reason. I'm not going to get into all the nitty-gritty details but, at the age of 15, I gave birth to a special needs child. I know all about detatchment. I wasn't able to bond with my son. I tried, for 4 months, I tried as hard as I possibly could. It just didn't work. I gave him up for adoption at the age of 4 1/2 months. It was one of the hardest decisions I have ever made in my life, but it was the right one. Luckily, I didn't have that issue with my other children. Whether it was maturity or the fact that they were born 100% healthy, I don't know. What I do know is that my first son has had a wonderful life, one that I could not have provided to him.

I apologize to you Erin.......:sorry:

As far as the Rev is concerned though......:brick:

[impqueen]

you know what, Jaded?

You're my hero, too. :love:

Thank you for sharing that - i know it was hard. You're an amazing mom to ALL your kids, this much I know. :heart:

eta: rev isn't gonna like my front page story. Nope. :666:

[Miss. Hill]

Those pics are truly breaking my heart, why children have to be born with such ailments just eats me up inside. Life is hard and to have any hindrance just sucks, to live for as little as four years, I just can't fathom having to be a Mom in Erin's situation or other moms.. :sad:

[swivel]

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5775/jaden2zm2.jpg

It's probably for the best. The kid was going to be a pedophile when he grew up.

[Lynntoast]

It's probably for the best. The kid was going to be a pedophile when he grew up.

Swivel, go directly to the timeout chair. :faint2:

[~Absynthe~]

Bless you Jaden....God's Speed....:hug:

[Jaded]

Jaden will stay in hospice care....

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/markes_8315___article.html/jaden_custody.html

[ashdavus]

For such a sick little boy he's adorable!

[impqueen]

Jaden died this morning after a two week bout of aspiration pneumonitis caused by his tube feedings refluxing into his lungs - a condition caused by his lissencephaly. Erin never got full custody back - Jaden remained in DCFS custody for medical treatment, but she had liberal visitation and was able to see and hold Jaden often. I do not know yet whether she was able to be with him when he died, but I hope so. I'll update as I get more information.

Rest in peace, kiddo.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6701/jaden1ax7.jpg

[impqueen]

New info:

It turns out that the nurses had sent Erin home yesterday morning - she'd been at the hospital for three straight days and it was thought that Jaden would hang in long enough for Erin to go get a nap. Of course it didn't work out that way, so she went back to the hospital and got to hold Jaden for a long time and say goodbye.

It also turns out that all tube feedings and fluids were stopped on Jaden by order of the Florida DCFS on June 4 - his GI system had totally shut down, so essentially Florida Schiavo'd him. Erin had been pushing for a J-tube (that goes into the intestine rather than the stomach) but had been told Jaden would not survive the surgery. The only thing that might have kept him alive would have been TPN, or IV nutrition - and with his GI system not workinga nd an overwhelming pneumonia, even that wouldn't have worked for long.

He did have morphine for pain control, and I'm told his passing was peaceful.

I have gotten a couple of requests for places to send memorial donations for Jaden and whether they should be sent directly to Erin. The Lissencephaly Network (http://www.lissencephaly.org/) can always use donations and I'm going to suggest that any donations should go there. Erin has been getting personal financial support from multiple members at that network lately, and the network can always use the money.

[crickett]

Ha

And you find negative attention easier to get than positive. You can always get a "groan" from non-meaningful one-word posts.
Post on, big guy

[silvahalo68]

Little Jaden, you can rest in peace knowing that your mama did love you.