Ashiqur Rahman & Jane Gomes wounded, maimied 7wk old to death

[scorpiogirl]

Two 23-year-old Halifax parents have been charged in an alleged child abuse case involving their seven-week-old daughter, an incident Halifax Regional Police spokeswoman Theresa Rath calls “troubling and shocking.”


Police say the baby has sustained life-threatening injuries, and the mother and father were each charged with one count of aggravated assault Saturday. The parents have been remanded until their next scheduled court appearance Wednesday.


“Unfortunately, we do see cases of child abuse, but this is certainly something that stands out,” Rath said yesterday. “This is very troubling and shocking for police because we’re talking about a defenceless baby who is seven weeks old.”


According to Rath, at about 8:20 p.m. Thursday, the two parents called 911 to report an injured person that turned out to be their baby. Paramedics arrived at the scene and asked for police back-up because, according to Rath, “they were concerned about the situation.”


The child was then taken to the IWK Health Centre in Halifax, and police were told their involvement wasn’t required.


But Rath said police were re-contacted by hospital staff early Friday morning, when they were told “this was a serious case of child abuse.” That started a police investigation that led to both parents being arrested at their Halifax residence on Friday.


“We can’t get into the injuries where it is now a matter before the courts, but what I can tell you is we laid a charge of aggravated assault, and that is the most serious assault charge you can lay under the Criminal Code of Canada,” Rath said.

“If you look at the definition, it involves wounding, maiming or disfiguring, so that will give you a sense of the extent of the injuries.”


Rath said yesterday neither parent has a criminal history, adding that if the baby’s condition worsens, police could upgrade the charges against them.



http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2009/07/27/ns-baby-assault.html

[sanityslipping]

“If you look at the definition, it involves wounding, maiming or disfiguring, so that will give you a sense of the extent of the injuries.”

My God, what did those monsters due to that poor poor child! Heal completely little one, far, far away from those monsters that birthed you. I hope they are wounded, maimed and disfigured in prison

[Valasca]

Monsters indeed.

[sorrow_discord]

someone needs to be wounding, maiming or disfiguring the parents. Now theres a punishment befitting child abuse that does not result in death.

[myra manes]

My God, what did those monsters due to that poor poor child! Heal completely little one, far, far away from those monsters that birthed you. I hope they are wounded, maimed and disfigured in prison


Fuck, that's what I was wondering about too ..


Fucking animals .. :argh:

[jenthgr8]

I shudder to think what these fucking savages did to their baby. Fuck.

[nurseronda]

According to Rath, at about 8:20 p.m. Thursday, the two parents called 911 to report an injured person that turned out to be their baby. Paramedics arrived at the scene and asked for police back-up because, according to Rath, “they were concerned about the situation.”
Injured person? They called their baby a person? This statement makes me wonder if this child was a result of rape. I just hope they receive what they gave, in prison.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

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Halifax Regional Police were waiting for the autopsy results of a seven-week-old baby girl before deciding whether to upgrade charges to her parents.

Ashiqur Rahman and Jane Gomes, both 23 and living in Halifax, are scheduled to appear in court this morning charged with aggravated assault.

The infant died Monday night after spending several days at the IWK Health Centre in critical condition.
[...]

The couple, believed to be in the country on student visas from Bangladesh, had rented one bedroom of five in a Gottingen Street building with a shared kitchen and two bathrooms. They’d studied at Acadia University in Wolfville.
[...]

"He was an OK student working with us and then something happened, some problem, and he stopped working," Mr. Hussain said. "I don’t know the details."

He suspected it might have been because the man had gotten Ms. Gomes pregnant. Before attending Acadia, Mr. Rahman attended Perdana College in Malaysia for two years.

Bob Trenaman, the couple’s landlord, said he felt sorry for the couple, who hadn’t mentioned they were expecting a child when they moved into the building about three months ago. He learned about the infant when some of the tenants called him saying, "There’s a baby crying — I don’t know what’s going on but it’s waking us up at night and it’s a drag," he said.

Things quieted down after that — until police called him from his building last week.
[...]http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1134746.html

[Dakota Valkyrie]

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Jane Gomes
It will be at least two weeks before the young couple accused of assaulting their now dead baby have a bail hearing.

Ashiqur Rahman and Jane Gomes, both 23, are accused of endangering the life of their daughter, Aurora Breakthrough. Breakthrough was the baby’s surname.

Aurora died in hospital at 8:20 p.m. Monday.

There has been speculation that more serious charges could be laid against one or both parents, but police and lawyers for the defence and the Crown have said those decisions will not be made until more information comes in.
[...]http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/9012775.html

[myra manes]

How'd the kid end up with a different surname:questionmark:

[Chaindrive]

Maybe that was her middle name?

[rebelgirl901]

:mad5: This shit really makes my blood boil. Ever heard of birth control fucktards? Don't bring a child into this world if you aren't going to be responsible parents. WTF?

[Nell]

How'd the kid end up with a different surname:questionmark:

Looks like they were trying to be cool with her name. You can give your kid any surname you want. Just like first names. Doesn't have to be your name or the fathers name.

[TheImperialCerealKiller]

I'm from Halifax originally.

Acadia University is quite a distance from Halifax- they couldn't have been commuting there everyday. So they either dropped out or moved to Halifax for the summer, maybe.
The street they were living on is in the 'hood. Or as close to a 'hood as you'll find in Halifax. Very ghetto. Rent was probably pretty cheap. I surmise that they were freaked out about losing their housing due to the baby crying, and that's why they assaulted the poor little thing. With student VISAs, I doubt they'd be eligible for welfare- I wonder how they were paying the bills? Maybe they were worried about being sent back to Bangladesh if they weren't in school anymore- I can't imagine that they encourage premarital sex and babies over there. Anyone familiar with the culture? Would the families be ashamed?

The worst part is that they'll hardly get any time at all. Maybe a year or three. Our laws suck. The most brutal murderers get like 10 years here.


Mike Sutherland of Wolfville sublet his two-bedroom apartment to Ms. Gomes early last summer and, a few weeks later, got an email from Mr. Rahman asking if he could move in.

He said both of the computer science students were very quiet, especially Mr. Rahman. They paid in advance, and had no damage deposit.

They filled the living room with computer gear, covered all the windows with blankets, and kept strange hours, he said.

Late in the summer, he became concerned about the mess and asked them to either clean the place or leave. They left.

"I just went in one day and they were gone. They pretty much left all their stuff there."

Strangely, he said, all of the clocks left in the apartment had their batteries removed and were left face down. He said the com-puter equipment was gone, but he had to make three trips to a Salvation Army drop box and dump to remove the clothes and other items.

Mr. Sutherland said he was very shocked to hear about the crime the couple are accused of.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1134945.html
Weird.

[Persephonae]

I can't imagine that they encourage premarital sex and babies over there. Anyone familiar with the culture? Would the families be ashamed?

I do know a family from Bangladesh. While much of the culture is still traditionally Hindu, a large number of the area is Muslim. Either way premarital sex is pretty much out of the question and would bring great shame to the family. The three brothers I know are all in arranged marriages. (and they all seem to be very happy with who they ended up with). I can only speak for the community/area that they have told me about, and I can't remember where at the moment. Young adults are still subject to answer to their elder family and community members. Most crimes etc. are dealt with in the community without the help of law enforcement. People fear the wrath of every man in a family coming to cut off their hand or beating them more than being turned in. I know that children, boy or girl, with the people I know are precious gifts from god to them, and they could never have enough. It's obvious they were trying to cover up that the child was theirs with the name change, names are a BIG deal. Even the Muslim families in Hindu influenced countries place some importance of the name based on Vedic astrology and other factors so that the baby will have good luck and a good life. I could see where he would suffer some serious punishment from their communities and families for having a child if he were promised to another, and perhaps the child would not be showered with acceptance and adoration. But disfigurement? That's heinous. They need to send him home and tell his parents he abused and killed a baby. Prison in the U.S. is a far better fate I promise you. As far as that miserable cunt of a mother, let's stone her here in our own streets. I've got big fat rock with her name it. Oh wait here's another. . .and another. . .

[Dakota Valkyrie]

A young Bangladesh couple accused of seriously injuring their infant daughter, who died later in a Halifax hospital, will stand trial in April.

Ashiqur Rahman and his partner, Jane Elizabeth Gomes, both 23, pleaded not guilty last week to a charge of aggravated assault and were back in Halifax provincial court Tuesday to have dates set for their trial.
[...]

Crown attorney Denise Smith said Tuesday that a report on the baby's death from the medical examiner's office is expected by the end of the month.

Depending on the contents of that report, she said, the charges could change.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/9014510.html

They have a dead baby and the charges are still for aggravated assault. Wouldn't want baby beaters to serve too much time. Although I am sure the charges will be upped.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

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Ashiqur Rahman
A young Bangladeshi couple has been charged with manslaughter in the death of their baby daughter last summer.

Halifax police announced Tuesday that the death of seven-week-old Aurora Breakthrough has been ruled a homicide and they allege that her parents Ashiqur Rahman, 24, and Jane Elizabeth Gomes, 23, are responsible for it.

Gomes faces two counts of manslaughter, one for failing to provide the necessities of life to her daughter and the other for criminal negligence causing the little girl’s death.

Rahman is charged with one count of manslaughter for causing the death of his daughter.

The couple were arrested last July 24 after staff at the IWK Health Centre reported a serious case of child abuse. At the time, they were both charged with aggravated assault.
[...]

For months the Crown has said that charges could be upgraded depending on the final autopsy results.

Those results were received just over a month ago, Crown attorney Denise Smith said Tuesday.
[...]

Smith could not offer much explanation on why Gomes faces two counts of manslaughter as a result of failing to provide the necessities of life and for criminal negligence causing death.

"It’s a question that is difficult for me to answer without reflecting on the evidence, which I can’t comment on at this point in time," Smith said.

"What I can say is that the charges were laid after a review of the evidence (and) reflects the Crown’s theory of the liability of the parties.

"She is charged with committing manslaughter but the Crown has particularized two different ways that she may be legally accountable for that crime."
[...]

In December, the couple pleaded not guilty to the aggravated assault charge. A 10-day trial is scheduled to get underway April 19 on that charge.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1171464.html

[VXIII]

probobly female circumcision

[HijabiGirl]

Female circumcision is not practiced by Muslims from the subcontinent. You see that in Africa as it was a cultural practice before Islam came.

[Toxic]

Yet another reason why everyone should go through a licensing process to have a child. I mean hell, we have to go through it to drive a car.

Poor little baby.

[Nell]

Every time I see someone post that we should go through a licensing program to become parents i do a face palm.

1. How many of you think you would have passed this "license to have kids test?" Be realistic.

2. What would this test entail? Have to be a certain age? Certain income? IQ? Again, how many of us would have passed it.

3. Why in the fuck would you want the government that far in your business? Cause this "test" you want everyone else to take before they get a "pass" to have baby, you would have to take too. No fucking thank you.

Sorry, pet fucking peeve that saying. Carry on.

[radi0ph0nic]

Man charged in infant's death could soon be out of jail

Published: September 13, 2010 11:57 a.m.

A man facing a charge of manslaughter in the death of his infant daughter could soon be out on bail.

Ashiqur Rahman has been in jail since he was charged last summer in relation to the death of his seven-week-old daughter, Aurora Breakthrough. Aurora died at the IWK Health Centre on July 27, 2009.
[...]
Jane Gomes, the former partner of Rahman, was sentenced to six months probation and counselling in May after pleading guilty in April to the lesser charge of failing to provide the necessities of life to her daughter.
[...]
She spent nine months in jail prior to her release on April 26.
She is expected to testify against Rahman at his trial in February under the terms of her sentencing agreement with the Crown.

A temporary publication ban has been placed on details of the case. The ban will be lifted after the completion of Rahman’s trial.

http://www.metronews.ca/halifax/local/article/630451--man-charged-in-infant-s-death-could-soon-be-out-of-jail

Six months probation? People can get worse sentences than that for misdemeanor shoplifting. I don't know if this is typical in the Canadian justice system... but it's completely unacceptable.


Gomes fears deportation to Bangladesh

Last Updated: Monday, January 24, 2011

Jane Gomes, 24, was charged with manslaughter, but pleaded guilty last year to a lesser charge of failing to provide the necessities of life to her infant daughter, Aurora Breakthrough.

In return for the plea deal, Gomes has agreed to testify at the trial of the baby's father, Ashiqur Rahman, who remains in custody accused of manslaughter.

Gomes and her lawyer Lee Cohen learned Monday that the Canada Border Services Agency wants to send her home to Bangladesh immediately after she testifies.

Cohen said Gomes is afraid to return to Bangladesh.

"Going home to her home country was worrisome to her because of what is going on here. It's culturally and socially unacceptable what she has been through," explained Cohen

Cohen said Gomes is worried that if she returns to Bangladesh she could be stoned for what happened in Canada.

"What's awkward about this is on one hand we have one arm of the Canadian government saying you're staying in Canada, because they want her to testify in future legal proceedings and on the other hand, you have an arm of the Canadian government that are setting her up to remove her from Canada and nobody's actually taking into consideration her needs or her fears, so it becomes quite challenging for her emotionally," said Cohen.
[...]


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/01/24/ns-gomes-deportation.html

Good! If they're short on stones there, I'd be happy to ship a few over.

...Yep, that's totally awkward that nobody is taking into consideration her needs and fears, because clearly she was highly concerned about her baby's needs and fears, and in turn, deserves the same consideration.

[Robynne]

Gomes and her lawyer Lee Cohen learned Monday that the Canada Border Services Agency wants to send her home to Bangladesh immediately after she testifies.

Send her back... She should have thought about that before her baby died the way she did. Bitch!!! I only wish I could be there to toss a few stones at her.

[Toxic]

Cohen said Gomes is worried that if she return to Bangladesh she could be stoned for what happened in Canada.

Good! I cant say I blame them...but I love how she basically says "people there wont like what ive been through"

No, its not the fact that your 7 wk old daughter was brutally beaten to death and you did nothing....NOO...its what youve had to endure that makes them want to pelt you with rocks!

[VXIII]

Every time I see someone post that we should go through a licensing program to become parents i do a face palm.

1. How many of you think you would have passed this "license to have kids test?" Be realistic.

2. What would this test entail? Have to be a certain age? Certain income? IQ? Again, how many of us would have passed it.

3. Why in the fuck would you want the government that far in your business? Cause this "test" you want everyone else to take before they get a "pass" to have baby, you would have to take too. No fucking thank you.

Sorry, pet fucking peeve that saying. Carry on.

You are right Nell, it would just be another "test" we study to find out the right answers in order to pass... by rote... never thought of it that way until you put it like that...

[VXIII]

Female circumcision is not practiced by Muslims from the subcontinent. You see that in Africa as it was a cultural practice before Islam came.

Didnt know that, excuse my ignorance...

[Obsolete]

Good! I cant say I blame them...but I love how she basically says "people there wont like what ive been through"

No, its not the fact that your 7 wk old daughter was brutally beaten to death and you did nothing....NOO...its what youve had to endure that makes them want to pelt you with rocks!

I'm so confused. Have they released the cause of death? I was assuming they starved the baby to death, I didn't realize they beat the poor lil thing. Where did I miss the cause of death statement?

[Bohring]

What would this test entail?

I don't see anything wrong with a general psych eval being part of your prenatal care. By that I don't mean, oh no, you have tendencies for depression, take the baby away! But just the way they check your blood and do all kinds of screenings, I mean someone who is exhibiting pure psychotic or sociopathic tendencies, or is juiced full of meth or heroin, treatment can be made available.

Perhaps it's not the best idea, but something? Anything? At all? Someone who tests positive for meth during pregnancy should have to be routinely screened up until and after the baby is born. Is there anyway to enforce this? I'm not sure. If you don't show up for the drug test, the child is removed? I'm not sure.

I just think something can be done. They can test for a multitude of ailments but we can't screen for a chronic personality disorder? And not to take the baby away but to try to provide treatment? I know a woman who is bipolar, untreated at firstwhich didn't seem like a problem, but couldn't function with the stress of her new baby. Finally, she was diagnosed and as long as she stays on the Lithium, all is well. Surely some of the whackjobs we've read about on here would've thrown up a red flag or two during a simple psych eval. I understand this would present its own set of new problems, and I've said in some other thread that there are varying degrees, and where does one draw the line. But these woman that get kids taken away, get charged with abuse, murder one of their own, accept a plea deal, get out and continue having kids to neglect and abuse? JFC, man, tie the tubes.

It's possible I'm too idealistic. Or blatantly unrealistic. I freely admit it.

[Nell]

If you are flagrantly psychotic while pregnant your DR should call the authorities. CSD and such. Same as if you test dirty for meth. We already have programs for such things.

But a test? Of your emotions? Uh, no. Because in order for this to work you would need a board of people, people the same as you and I to make the decisions on who is fit to parent and who isn't. And i am not willing to leave that up to some random fuck the Government thinks would be good for the job.

[radi0ph0nic]

I'm so confused. Have they released the cause of death? I was assuming they starved the baby to death, I didn't realize they beat the poor lil thing. Where did I miss the cause of death statement?

From the original article (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2009/07/27/ns-baby-assault.html) at the top:

“We can’t get into the injuries where it is now a matter before the courts, but what I can tell you is we laid a charge of aggravated assault, and that is the most serious assault charge you can lay under the Criminal Code of Canada,” Rath said.

“If you look at the definition, it involves wounding, maiming or disfiguring, so that will give you a sense of the extent of the injuries.”

I think you may have gotten the starvation from the fact that the "mother" pleaded guilty to failing to provide the necessities of life. They're being kinda shady on details, but the article (http://www.metronews.ca/halifax/local/article/630451--man-charged-in-infant-s-death-could-soon-be-out-of-jail) I quoted above mentioned a press ban until his trial was complete, so I guess that explains the lack of info.

[vipjohnson]

I can't imagine killing a seven week old baby. How can you disfigure a newborn?! Obviously, these people have serious mental issues.

My son at seven weeks:
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[Obsolete]

From the original article (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2009/07/27/ns-baby-assault.html) at the top:


I think you may have gotten the starvation from the fact that the "mother" pleaded guilty to failing to provide the necessities of life. They're being kinda shady on details, but the article (http://www.metronews.ca/halifax/local/article/630451--man-charged-in-infant-s-death-could-soon-be-out-of-jail) I quoted above mentioned a press ban until his trial was complete, so I guess that explains the lack of info.

I read all of that but that quote doesn't say that the baby was beaten to death as Toxic stated. That's the article or quote I want to read.

[suebee13]

Yet another reason why everyone should go through a licensing process to have a child. I mean hell, we have to go through it to drive a car.

Poor little baby.

as much as i'd like to agree, there would be no way to keep idiots from breeding even with that. just like there are still idiots behind the wheel.

[Bohring]

My son at seven weeks

My son had the same onesie! How adorable he is!

[Bohring]

But a test? Of your emotions?

Nah, not a test of your emotions, but a psych eval. It's a little more complex than "how do you feel?" And certainly nothing that your GP or OB/GYN would be qualified to administer. Although I completely agree that I wouldn't want some random fuck that the government deems appropriate to decide if I should vacation in the rubber room until I give birth. I just think there could be something done, something more. And I wasn't talking about being granted a license. I said an assessment for possible treatment.

[walkingeagle]

Although I completely agree that I wouldn't want some random fuck that the government deems appropriate Oh Bohring! Let's get real here! That ignorant fuck is likely someone related to someone who knows someone. How inappropriate could that be?


(Please don't kill me for this one!)

[Bohring]

Oh Bohring! Let's get real here! That ignorant fuck is likely someone related to someone who knows someone. How inappropriate could that be?


(Please don't kill me for this one!)

Quite the contrary, I am LMAO!

Man, I never said I had all the answers! If I did, I'd be the ignorant fuck!

[Robynne]

How about parenting classes, or some kind of class to help you understand what to do when your child might frustrate you. All done before the baby is born. And when the baby is born, someone checks on how you feel before you leave the hospital. If you aren't feeling right, they can assign someone to go to your house a couple times a week and help you deal with your emotions. A support system kind of thing.

Just a thought.

[walkingeagle]

Bohring! The ignorant fucks never have the answers to the actual problem! They have figured out how to milk the people out of a paycheck!

[walkingeagle]

How about parenting classes, or some kind of class to help you understand what to do when your child might frustrate you. All done before the baby is born. And when the baby is born, someone checks on how you feel before you leave the hospital. If you aren't feeling right, they can assign someone to go to your house a couple times a week and help you deal with your emotions. A support system kind of thing.

Just a thought. I can only claim outside here, but that parenting class, from what I have heard is a joke!

[Bohring]

The ignorant fucks never have the answers to the actual problem!

That was my possibly too vague point/joke. I'm battin' a thousand today!

[walkingeagle]

That was my possibly too vague point/joke. I'm battin' a thousand today! Not even close! I figure it's best to put it out here rather than let someone else catch that the wrong way!

[Bohring]

Not even close! I figure it's best to put it out here rather than let someone else catch that the wrong way!

My editor and I used to argue via email, until one of us picked up the phone to confirm we were arguing about what we were supposedly arguing about. Nine out of ten times, we'd misunderstood each other. This is why I try to be very careful about what I say, but it never fails. Something is usually taken out of context. Or my sarcasm or lame ass sense of humor doesn't make it through. :)

[walkingeagle]

My editor and I used to argue via email, until one of us picked up the phone to confirm we were arguing about what we were supposedly arguing about. Nine out of ten times, we'd misunderstood each other. This is why I try to be very careful about what I say, but it never fails. Something is usually taken out of context. Or my sarcasm or lame ass sense of humor doesn't make it through. :) That happens to all of us on the monitors! And I never took anything you've said here in a bad way! I'm a smartass myself!

[Robynne]

I can only claim outside here, but that parenting class, from what I have heard is a joke!

Okay, so parenting classes are stupid. I know, I have voluntarily taken two. Maybe babycare classes sounds better. A class to explain babies and how to care for them, what to do in a situation where you need a time out. A phone number to call if you need to talk to someone. Something other than just letting someone take off with kid not knowing if they know what to do.
It might help.

[Bohring]

Okay, so parenting classes are stupid. I know, I have voluntarily taken two. Maybe babycare classes sounds better. A class to explain babies and how to care for them, what to do in a situation where you need a time out. A phone number to call if you need to talk to someone. Something other than just letting someone take off with kid not knowing if they know what to do.
It might help.

I completely agree. I'm an only child, and had never been around kids. I had never changed a diaper until I changed my newborn's in the hospital. My pregnancy was long and complicated, indeed I was super sick, had to give myself shots in the stomach four times a day. I was exhausted and unable to do much of anything, especially toward the end. I was too ill to attend parenting classes. I was a complete wreck in the hospital the first couple of days. I had told my nurse that I was afraid to go home. She just patted my hand, and told me I'd be fine. Granted, I was absolutely fine. But no offering up of hotlines, support groups, nothing? Really?

[walkingeagle]

Okay, so parenting classes are stupid. I know, I have voluntarily taken two. Maybe babycare classes sounds better. A class to explain babies and how to care for them, what to do in a situation where you need a time out. A phone number to call if you need to talk to someone. Something other than just letting someone take off with kid not knowing if they know what to do.
It might help.

I think you may have a portion, at least, of what may help with hese! I love these ideas!

[Robynne]

Or maybe new parents should read some of the stories on here about parents losing their cool and killing their babies. And see what happens to the parents and what we say about them.
Maybe it will seep into their brains and they'll think twice about hurting their children and seek help instead.

[badfish76]

When I was prego I did the hospital's prenatal classes that covered a variety of topics on what to expect and such. I also read every damn thing I could get my hands on and talked to my Dr. a lot. He thought I was a boring patient, I could tell.

Another thought on this thread: getting stoned to death sounds great.

Oh! They mean, like, with ROCKS! That doesn't sound so fun, but it does sound like exactly what she needs.

[Nell]

It all comes down to patience and maturity, and you can't test for those things ahead of time. All the classes in the world won't do shit if the parent has the patience of a tired toddler.

And those Psych tests are really easy to fool. Really easy.

[HijabiGirl]

Didnt know that, excuse my ignorance...

No prob, it's a common misconception.

[radi0ph0nic]

I read all of that but that quote doesn't say that the baby was beaten to death as Toxic stated. That's the article or quote I want to read.

Sorry! I don't think she read that from an actual article (at least I haven't seen one that said this), perhaps she was just guessing as I thought you were :)

[Bohring]

And those Psych tests are really easy to fool. Really easy.

The written tests are, I absolutely agree. But the dumbasses wouldn't be smart enough to manipulate them. The one-on-one interviews are a little more involved, given the validity of the shrink. But the panel evaluations (which would be expensive) are something else entirely. The truly gifted antisocials and sociopaths would breeze right through that. It wouldn't catch everyone, hell, it might not catch many. But I believe something would catch some of them. Idealist! =D

[sorrow_discord]

I not only had to watch a video on shaken baby syndrome, but we were given a free diaper bag filled with tons of stuff which included pamphlets for services. Over all they were very good at the hospital.

[Jerri Blank]

Father on trial for daughter's death

The Crown says a father's explanations to a doctor about what caused his daughter's brain injuries before her death were "completely ridiculous."

Ashiqur Rahman has pleaded not guilty to manslaughter and aggravated assault in the July 27, 2009, death of seven-week-old Aurora Breakthrough.

Crown lawyer Mark Heerema asked Rahman why he told a doctor before her death that a change in formula and the mother's decision to take her outside in a stroller may have caused her brain damage.

Heerema challenged that rationale, saying such explanations are "completely ridiculous."

Rahman said he was simply trying to come up with possibilities that might help the doctor and it was all he could think of on the day Aurora was admitted to a Halifax hospital.

She died three days later.

Heerema said Rahman was coming up with the suggestions because he knew his rough handling of the child caused the injuries, an accusation that Rahman has repeatedly denied in his testimony.
http://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/69346/Father-on-trial-for-daughter-s-death

[Tundratot]

. . .

Mark Heerema delivered closing submissions at the Nova Scotia Supreme Court trial of Ashiqur Rahman, who has pleaded not guilty to manslaughter and aggravated assault in the death of his daughter Aurora Breakthrough.

The girl's mother, Jane Gomes, has testified that Rahman shook and slapped the baby — allegations the 26-year-old Halifax man has denied.

Heerema said medical testimony made clear that some of the baby's injuries and her death could only be caused by an adult abusing the child.

He told the judge that Aurora had 30 injured ribs, only three of which could have been injured through the administration of cardiopulmonary resuscitation.

"Aurora was in many ways shattered on the inside," he said.

The defence has argued that the rib injuries could have been caused by a parent accidentally rolling over the infant while sleeping with the child.

But Heerema said experts agreed that injuries at the back of the rib cage could only have been caused by a person holding and squeezing the baby forcefully.

Heerema said Aurora had no signs of illness when she was born, but when she arrived at a Halifax hospital on July 23, 2009 less than two months later, intensive care doctors immediately suspected abuse.

Tests found broken bones and joints that were severely twisted, and doctors believed she also had severe brain trauma, Heerema said.

Pathologists later found two instances where Aurora's brain was traumatized by some form of shaking or impact, he added.

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At one point, Judge Felix Cacchione asked Heerema why pathologists didn't find other signs of violent shaking, such as hyper-extension of Aurora's neck.

Heerema said the evidence shows some form of trauma, but it's impossible to exactly define how it came about.

Still, he said the trauma Aurora suffered was excessive.

"All of this exceeds normal handling," Heerema said. "All of this you would not expect to find with normal baby care."http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/04/24/ns-ashiqur-rahman-crown-closing.html

[Jerri Blank]

Dad who caused baby's death sentenced to 6½ years


A Halifax man has been sentenced to 6½ years in prison for the 2009 killing of his seven-week-old daughter.

Nova Scotia Supreme Court Justice Felix Cacchione gave Ashiqur Rahman double credit for the time he already served in jail, reducing the sentence to four years and three months.

“A message that violence against children will not be tolerated must be sent to all of those who abuse or think of abusing children,” Cacchione said in handing down the sentence Tuesday.

“What occurred in this case is tragic. It’s tragic for all those concerned. A seven-week-old child lost her life. A mother lost her daughter and years of education. Mr. Rahman will lose his liberty.”

The Crown had asked for a sentence of 10 to 15 years in prison for Rahman, who shook, slapped and tossed Aurora Breakthrough several times throughout her short life before she was rushed to hospital on July 23, 2009. The defence asked for between five and six years.

Rahman was found guilty of manslaughter and aggravated assault in June.

He didn’t react to the sentence, but he sat with a furrowed brow through much of Tuesday’s sentencing hearing.

“This baby was shattered and undoubtedly suffered,” Crown attorney Denise Smith said in her closing argument.

According to medical evidence heard at the trial, the girl had 27 rib fractures in various stages of healing and had suffered broken bones in three of her four limbs. Her brain showed signs of new and old injuries, and the back of her brain had dead tissue that had liquefied. Her brain injuries were described at “devastating.”

Smith said the fact the injuries occurred as a result of several incidents was “the single most important aspect” to be considered during sentencing.

Smith said the Bangladesh-born Rahman’s motivation was also critical to the sentencing process.

Aurora’s mother Jane Gomes, also from Bangladesh, testified that Rahman was continually frustrated with the baby’s crying and was more interested in myriad Internet moneymaking ideas than in his daughter. His frustration with the child’s tears led to the assaults, she said.

Gomes received a conditional sentence in 2010 for failing to provide the necessities of life for Aurora. Gomes pleaded guilty to the charge, which had been downgraded from manslaughter.

Donald Murray, Rahman’s lawyer, said the case is different than some instances of abuse of children.

“The people who make a single punch in the stomach or bounce a child’s head off the floor differ from those who mishandle an infant,” he said.

He said there was no sign of injuries noticed by Rahman or even the nearby medical clinic during Aurora’s regular checkups.

“Mr. Rahman’s behaviour resulted in no obvious harm and no obvious distress,” Murray said. He had argued that a pre-existing medical condition led to Aurora’s death.

Aurora’s parents called 911 from their Gottingen Street rooming house in Halifax on July 23, 2009, because she was having trouble breathing. She died in hospital four days later, after being declared brain dead.

In a victim impact statement read by Smith, Gomes said she never thought she would lose her daughter.

“Part of me believes she is not dead and that I will see her again,” she wrote. “I have dreams of her often — sometimes happy, other times frightening.”

Gomes, who was not in the courtroom Tuesday, wrote that Aurora was loved and always will be.

“She is missed in every moment of my life.”

Asked if he had anything to say before sentencing, Rahman spoke briefly.

“I have been, and always will be, sorry for failing to save my daughter, but I tried my best to save her as soon as I learned about her unwellness for the first time,” he said.

“I can only take responsibility for my action, so I’m maintaining my innocence.”

Murray declined to comment after court. Smith said that while the sentence was lower than what she had asked for, “there is a very wide range of sentence for the offence of manslaughter, even manslaughters that involve the death of a young child. Certainly, the sentence that the judge imposed was within the range (of case law).”

Because of that, she said, she didn’t expect there would be an appeal.

Once Rahman’s sentence is finished, his status will be reviewed by the Canada Border Services Agency.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/metro/124543-dad-who-caused-babys-death-sentenced-to-6-years

[Eccentric Lady]

“I can only take responsibility for my action, so I’m maintaining my innocence.”

Am I the only one that noticed the paradox in this? :banghead:

By maintaining innocence he's doing the opposite actually! :motz:

[Obsolete]

“I can only take responsibility for my action, so I’m maintaining my innocence.”

Am I the only one that noticed the paradox in this? :banghead:

By maintaining innocence he's doing the opposite actually! :motz:

He's claiming his actions didn't kill her. He's saying he can only take responsibility for HIS actions, not the actions of whoever or whatever killed her.

[Northernspark]

Every time I see someone post that we should go through a licensing program to become parents i do a face palm.

1. How many of you think you would have passed this "license to have kids test?" Be realistic.

2. What would this test entail? Have to be a certain age? Certain income? IQ? Again, how many of us would have passed it.

3. Why in the fuck would you want the government that far in your business? Cause this "test" you want everyone else to take before they get a "pass" to have baby, you would have to take too. No fucking thank you.

Sorry, pet fucking peeve that saying. Carry on.

Im a big fan of the return of the dog license. And I would never swap my kids. But I do think their Father should never reproduce again. I get the likeness of being allowed to look after a living thing, animal or child. Nell No I would not have passed, I was still a kid the first time, and struggling with a toddler second time around, even I wouldn't have passed me, lol. We'd be going back to the Nazi ideal if we start to choose who can reproduce. We just need more workers to help families who either aren't coping, or don't know the western expectations of bringing up kids. Worked with a few, especially Jamaican who have some pretty harsh ideas about rearing their Kids, much harsher parenting than I've seen from indian or asian families, Rant over, we really need more workers in the States, as well as the UK.