8-Year-Old Gang-Raped by 4 Boys: Parents Disown Her [Archive]

Dakota Valkyrie

July 22nd, 2009, 09:47 PM

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Steven Tuopeh
Four boys between the ages of 9 and 14 are in police custody after they allegedly raped an 8-year-old girl.

The boys, ages 9, 10, and 13 are being detained at the Juvenile Corrections Center. The 14-year-old, Steven Tuopeh, has been remanded as an adult.

The rape happened about 5:15 p.m. July 16 in a toolshed near 45th Ave and Thomas. Police say the girl was lured into the shed with the promise of chewing gum. The boys allegedly restrained her while taking turns sexually assaulting her.

Phoenix Police held a press conference 3:30 p.m. Wednesday to announce the arrests. According to police, the victim and the suspects are all from Liberia, west Africa, and appeared to have known each other.

The child is currently in Child Protective Services having been disowned by her parents after the assault. Detectives say her parents blame her for being victimized and bringing shame to their family.

All the suspects have admitted their involvement in the sexual assault. The 9-year-old is facing one count of sexual assault, the 10-year-old is facing charges of kidnapping and 2 counts of sexual assault, the 13-year-old is facing kidnapping and 3 counts of sexual assault, and Tuopeh is facing kidnapping and 2 counts of sexual assault.http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/crime/gang_rape_07_22_2009

Death Bed

July 22nd, 2009, 09:48 PM

At least we know the child has the chance to be with hopefully a better family now, since her bio parents are completely useless.

coffee achiever

July 22nd, 2009, 09:48 PM

That poor girl. Her parents SUCK!

myra manes

July 22nd, 2009, 09:51 PM

runecire

July 22nd, 2009, 09:51 PM

Totally fucked up. I understand some cultures have different beliefs, but to disown your own daughter when she is the victim? They brought shame on the family name in my opinion. Shame on them for abandoning her in her time of need and distress.

Death Bed

July 22nd, 2009, 09:55 PM

If the parents really want to blame someone, they only need a mirror.

thatsmallgrl

July 22nd, 2009, 10:07 PM

Holy fucking shit!!! Stupid parents.

I feel so bad for this little girl, to have that happen and then have her parents pretty much tell her it was her fault.

It sucks. I remember when I finally got the courage to tell my mother what my step-dad was doing to me the first thing she said was, "are you sure you weren't dreaming?" She didn't believe me or my brother. I'm not really sure to this day if she does or not. It's a really crappy feeling.

I hope this young girl can move past this and be placed with a fmaily that actually gives a shit.

Fuck her parents.

Harley_Tech

July 22nd, 2009, 10:23 PM

her parents blame her for being victimized and bringing shame to their family.

No, they managed to do that all on their own.

Sorry ass people.

R

thequeenofsorrow

July 22nd, 2009, 11:03 PM

Poor child not only does she have such a violent crime happen to her but she loses the little security she had - the lige she knew with her parents. Poor poor little girl.
I hope she goes on to have a normal life. I wish I could hug her.

ImmortalOne

July 23rd, 2009, 12:12 AM

This is really sad and an obvious culture shock for a lot of people... Probably ignorant of the real world and such but no reason to turn your child away for something that innocent little girl could never have controlled.

totallytoddler

July 23rd, 2009, 12:20 AM

Silvahalo

July 23rd, 2009, 01:36 AM

The child is currently in Child Protective Services having been disowned by her parents after the assault. Detectives say her parents blame her for being victimized and bringing shame to their family.
Disown? their little girl is violated probably damaged physically that she won't be able to have her own children, and damaged psychologically from being shunned, disowned for and abandoned by her own parents.

Fuck them. They are not parents and do NOT deserve any children. The shame is theirs.

Heal completely little one.

crickett

July 23rd, 2009, 02:17 AM

Fucking SHIT!!!! Kill ALL of them AND the girl's so-called "parents"...just WHY weren't thee ASSWIPES watching their 8 year old daughter??? Too much bother for these ignorant inbred sheepfucking worthless so-called humans to keep an eye on their own kid. They are the ones who dishonor her. She stands a better chance at life without sick fucks like her own "family".

Valasca

July 23rd, 2009, 09:49 AM

Brace yourselves... this is one of the few times I find myself speechless because I am so filled with rage.
Vigilante group against the egg and sperm donor, anyone?

Rockin Ma

July 23rd, 2009, 10:49 AM

That's how they do in in their culture. They do the same to children born "albino".

I feel so horrible for this little girl, but happy she is away from that culture and hopefully on her way to a loving home.

Pixie

July 23rd, 2009, 10:56 AM

Reason #36 for my "Supervised Play Only" rule. How in THEE HELL...do you just abandon your 8 yr old daughter??? When she needs you the most?????

Sad...just terribly sad!

A 9 yr old sexually assulting? What. The. Fuck.

Your rule #36 for no unsupervised play is your kid could be gang raped by 4 boys in a toolshed and disowned?

prettyuglyish

July 23rd, 2009, 11:07 AM

Chewing gum - it gets 'em every time.

Athena

July 23rd, 2009, 11:36 AM

buggysmommy

July 23rd, 2009, 12:07 PM

I swear, I have less desire everyday to travel outward of the US.

I mean we all dream of traveling to other countries to indulge ourselves in breathtaking beauty and up front views of different cultures. And I think everyone tries to respect other cultures-but fuck man-these other countries and the way they handle shit is just fucking foul!

England blows on the issue of the value of a child, the Phillipines will put you to death for carrying a fucking blunt into their country, and Africa will disown their own victimized child for shaming the family...

Fuck that shit, I will stay in America where we get openly raped via the economy, have vigilantes who defend family and loved ones, have shitty politics and mountains of financial ruin-at least we know it's there and what to do about it!

Those parents should be sent BACK to their shitty, fucked up country-remember why they wanted to be in ours...Freedom to take a piss, sleep in a real bed with a real roof over your head, have a job that pays money, get education for your children, eat a hot meal, AND TREAT YOUR FUCKING CHILDREN LIKE HUMAN BEINGS RATHER THAN A REPRESENTATIVE OF YOUR APPEARANCE -would prove to be a better alternative then-huh

FUCKERS! :crazy:

runnergirl

July 23rd, 2009, 01:21 PM

WHAT. THE. FUCK. Her parents should now be charged with neglect.

Here's hoping a wonderful family finds her and gives her a wonderful life...and that she is able to get past all the fucked up shit she has lived through until now!!!

Sister Iroz

July 23rd, 2009, 01:34 PM

The summer scene at a west Phoenix apartment complex was tranquil Wednesday evening. Parents and children chatted on their stoops as the sun set. They bought ice cream from a vendor's push cart.

One week ago, around the same time of day, residents of the complex were startled by the screams of a partially clothed 8-year-old girl who ran screaming from a storage shed at a vacant unit.

Phoenix police on Wednesday announced that they arrested four neighborhood boys in connection with the incident, in which investigators said the group lured the girl into the shed with chewing gum, held her down and sexually assaulted her.

Phoenix police Sgt. Andy Hill, a longtime public-information officer, described the case as "one of the worst crimes we have come across in Phoenix in quite some time," given the ages of the victim and the suspects, as well as the circumstances of the reported attack.

The girl and the four suspects are refugees from the war-torn West African country of Liberia, which, according to investigators, would complicate authenticating names and dates of birth.

Arizona Child Protective Services took custody of the girl after the July 16 incident at the apartment complex after her parents disowned her.

Hill said the parents blamed her for being victimized and bringing shame to the family.

CPS and the families could not be reached for comment.

Phoenix investigators are requesting that the oldest suspect, age 14, be prosecuted as an adult.

He and the three others - ages 9, 10 and 13 - were taken to a Maricopa County juvenile-detention center late Tuesday on charges of sexual assault. Three of the four boys also could be charged with kidnapping, according to police.

Each of the suspects admitted to the assault, according to investigators. Hill said three of the boys lived with their families at the complex.

He added that they "took turns" in the attack, the shed door opening as different boys entered.

Police said the victim knew her attackers, but they are unclear on how long the families lived in the complex or how long it had been since they fled Liberia.http://www.azcentral.com/community/ahwatukee/articles/2009/07/22/20090722sexassault0722-ON.html

How horrible for this girl. On top of that her own parents blame her. My thoughts & prayers are with this girl.

coffee achiever

July 23rd, 2009, 02:11 PM

Sadly, rape is all too common in Liberia, and the majority of victims are under 14.

http://laurainliberia.blogspot.com/2008/07/real-men-dont-rape.html

Sounds like these boys brought the worst of their homeland's culture with them. Shame on the parents for blaming the girl.

mysticviewer

July 23rd, 2009, 03:20 PM

God Damn! Fucking Stupid. This poor child. I am so mad I could spit. No child should have to go through this....then to have her parents disown her! I hope that someone takes this little girl in who can teach her about unconditional love and teach her how to love herself because at this point she probably has a lot of self directed guilt and hate. :mad2::mad2:

Ninja0980

July 23rd, 2009, 04:10 PM

I'm sorry, I refuse to understand or tolerate ANY culture where a eight year girl is blamed and disowned for her own rape and where it's considered "honorable" to disown or kill her because of it. They need to be locked up and thrown in jail. I'm sure many of the inmates would just LOVE to show them their own "honor" system.

coffee achiever

July 23rd, 2009, 04:14 PM

Two threads on this:

http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23034

jenthgr8

July 23rd, 2009, 08:18 PM

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. I read this headline and at first thought it had to be a fucking joke. What the hell kind of parents could just abandon their child, right when she needs them more than ever? I can't even comprehend this level of ignorance. Fuck these bastard "parents". What a slap in the face. And how the hell could a 9 year old boy be involved in a gang rape? It just boggles my fucking mind.

This poor child. I hope she heals and is one day able to trust again.

trams

July 24th, 2009, 06:32 AM

I am so proud to live in az.Ship the piece of shits back to Africa, and take some illegals with you.

AmusedToDeath

July 24th, 2009, 09:01 AM

buggysmommy

July 24th, 2009, 11:29 AM

I couldn't believe this when I read it either! She brought shame upon the family and I'd be surprised that someone in her family dosen't track her down and kill her.

Some interesting information here:
http://www.fairfund.org/subpage.asp?...honor_killings

This sickens me and sadens me both to turn on your 8 yr old daughter because she is not "dirtied" and can no longer be accepted as a suitable wife. Not to mention that she is no longer accepted in the family.

That's why it is really great that she will probably be found by a loving family who will help her get past this-so that she can be a suitable wife, parent and above all else-AN AMERICAN.

I say give her citizenship now! Let's make her one of us so she can never have to look back on the fucked culture she lost her innocence to! Those fucking parents don't deserve her. And in my opinion, she bears a cross of courage those bitches will never know. She is going to survive this and be a stronger woman for it and those fuckers will remaint he cowards they are for abandoning her. She has honor and they willnever know what honor is...

Lavonna

July 24th, 2009, 11:36 AM

WTF is wrong with this poor young girls parents????

I'm about ready to pop, I'm soooo fucking pissed off right now ..
That little girl will be adopted in no time ..
Hopefully, she'll never have to see those fucks (parents) again!

I know I was pissed off too. How can anyone blame an 8 year old child for being raped.

Then I seen Casey fucked up looking picture in the corner and got pissed off again :hello:

AmusedToDeath

July 24th, 2009, 01:08 PM

That's why it is really great that she will probably be found by a loving family who will help her get past this-so that she can be a suitable wife, parent and above all else-AN AMERICAN.

I say give her citizenship now! Let's make her one of us so she can never have to look back on the fucked culture she lost her innocence to! Those fucking parents don't deserve her. And in my opinion, she bears a cross of courage those bitches will never know. She is going to survive this and be a stronger woman for it and those fuckers will remaint he cowards they are for abandoning her. She has honor and they willnever know what honor is...

ITA 100% but I'm worried they'll come after her and try to kill her. I really hope child welfare keeps her hidden and safe. Shes going to need a lot of counseling in order to overcome her "stigma". I think I read somewhere that her father wants her back? God I hope not.

Dakota Valkyrie

July 24th, 2009, 01:14 PM

The 14-year-old boy was charged Wednesday as an adult with two counts of sexual assault and kidnapping, the Maricopa County Attorney's Office.

The other boys — ages 9, 10, and 13 — were charged as juveniles with sexual assault. The 10- and 13-year-old boys also were charged with kidnapping, the office said Thursday.

Authorities said the victim was in the care of Child Protective Services after her parents blamed her for the attack and bringing shame to the family.

"The father told the case worker and an officer in her presence that he didn't want her back. He said 'Take her, I don't want her,"' Hill said.

He said the father cited the family's Liberian culture as the reason for shunning the girl.http://newsok.com/4-boys-charged-in-phoenix-in-girls-sex-assault/article/3387477

Ninja0980

July 24th, 2009, 03:48 PM

And to the culture that the father and mother follow... screw it. Deport them back to Liberia if they are such a fan of the culture. But don't bring crap like that into the U.S.

evervigilant

July 24th, 2009, 03:57 PM

As soon as I read the title I thought it was a foreign crime , it sort of is . No normal western parent blames their child for being raped . Fucking disgusting , but she's probably better off away from her parents , I feel sorry for the siblings she leaves behind too . I hope she has a happy life .

biteme

July 24th, 2009, 04:25 PM

shoot the family save the girl

runecire

July 24th, 2009, 06:30 PM

Bring these parents up on charges. Their backwards ass culture shouldn't mean shit to us, here.

I try to be inclusive, but, fuck... Isn't that why they came here? Because their culture wasn't quite cuttin' it?

Again, bring these ignorant fucks up on charges.

I am just curious to know what charges you expect to be leveled on them. In almost every Dept of Human Services across the country, parents can admit their children into the system if they feel the children are beyond their control. States are adopting safe haven laws for parents to abandon unwanted children at specified, legal locations. As far as I can tell, by telling the officer and the dept to not return the girl, he did not break any laws. If he had dumped her by the roadside, that would be a different matter.

Honestly, by not letting her come back, the father has unwittingly opened the door to a brighter future for this young lady. He has given her the chance to be raised by a decent and loving family. She is better off, and the cycle of insanity within their culture can be broken for one precious little girl.

Rawrehz

July 24th, 2009, 08:25 PM

so tragic really.
i saw this aired on the news too. I hope this poor girl makes it through life && doesnt end up one of those tortured souls you know.

god bless her.
fuck her parents in the ass though. *cheers*

Dakota Valkyrie

July 25th, 2009, 11:03 PM

The sexual assault in Phoenix has sparked an international outcry, reaching all the way to the president of Liberia, the home country of the girl's family and the four young suspects.

"They should help that child who has been traumatized and they should make sure that they work with the U.S. law authorities to see what can be done about the other young boys who have committed this offense," Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf told CNN. "Not only should they abide by the law, but they, too, need serious counseling because clearly they are doing something, something that is no longer acceptable in our society here."

Sirleaf has tried to combat rape in recent years, seeking to dispel stigmas by publicly acknowledging that she was herself the victim of attempted rape during the country's civil war.
[...]

"What you're seeing here is the very long legacy and reach of the violence that took over Liberia for 70 years," said Pamela Scully, a professor of women's studies and African studies at Emory University in Atlanta. "When you're dealing with children this young, they're mimicking actions they've seen, they've heard about, they've grown up with."

President Sirleaf said she would ask Liberian Ambassador Milton Barnes to work with the family and Phoenix authorities to ensure the girl's protection.http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_12909774?source=rss

solange82200

July 25th, 2009, 11:09 PM

Coyote

July 26th, 2009, 12:30 AM

I was appalled by this story when I read it. Apparently, the girl’s older sister was watching her at the time and said she shouldn’t have gone off with the boys. The innocence of an 8-year-old girl wouldn’t know any better. Unfortunately, this young girl has lost her innocence and will know better now. What a hell of a way to learn though.
She needs a name change, and adoption into a family that will give her the love and guidance that every child deserves. I sure hope she gets this.

runecire

July 26th, 2009, 02:25 AM

ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY. That is fucking neglect and abandonment. That is the kind of behavior that makes me want to say "why dont you go back to your own country". I know that sounds racist, but I think this is one scenario where we are justified in deporting their asses. How could you treat your child like that? An innocent 8 year old? Life isnt fair....

Be very careful.

Neglect and abandonment would be defined by throwing the girl out into the street or dropping her off out in a forest or desert. The parents did none of these. They essentially released the girl to the state. This action is no different than so many of the young parents we have heard of who take advantage of the safe haven laws hoping the children will be given to better families than what they can provide. Yes, the motivations are different, but the actions are not. If we prosecute, or attempt to prosecute this family, we could ultimately scare off other parents with the fear of prosecution. Is this the kind of precedent we want to set?

The child is currently in Child Protective Services having been disowned by her parents after the assault.

"The father told the case worker and an officer in her presence that he didn't want her back. He said 'Take her, I don't want her,"' Hill said.

I do not agree with the morality of what these parents did, and I am certainly NOT defending their actions. I am simply saying we need to be careful how far we take this prosecution talk. It may lead where we do not want to go.

Be very, very careful.

trams

July 26th, 2009, 07:09 AM

Donations and offers of adoption are coming in for this little girl.

MadmamainNC

July 26th, 2009, 07:33 AM

When I heard this story I cried. I can't believe parents could do that to their young. Blame her. I understand that is the way it's done in Nigeria that the woman are accused of incitement when raped, but Dayum! This was an 8 year old child. There was no human instinct to protect her. The only good thing about this is no one will be performing a circumcision on her now which would ruin her further and forever. And yeah, they'll do it even in the states if they are sticking with tradition.

I hope they find her a loving home and teach her that she is beautiful and of value. That no one has a right to touch her if she doesn't want them to and that none of this was her fault.

malq

July 26th, 2009, 09:32 AM

Rockin Ma

July 26th, 2009, 11:20 AM

Donations and offers of adoption are coming in for this little girl.

I hope so. After I said I hoped she'd go to a loving home, I realized at that age, many children are not placed in good foster homes and many more never adopted.

Ninja0980

July 26th, 2009, 01:41 PM

Here's my thing... and I tell my friends who go overseas the same thing.. when you go to another country, that means you're subject to THEIR laws. Your culture or how things are done in your country mean JACK. If you don't like it, then don't go to that country. These two useless wastes of space abadoned their daughter to the state - not because they were unable to care for her due to their own physical or mental health, not because she was more than they could handle, but because she brought "shame" on them by being raped according to their culture.
I say this freely, any culture that casts aside children who have been raped, who will kill a woman for daring to be more than a servent or going against her family's "wishes" has no business being in our country.

Death Bed

July 26th, 2009, 01:45 PM

I hope so. After I said I hoped she'd go to a loving home, I realized at that age, many children are not placed in good foster homes and many more never adopted.

I have an aunt who is unable to bear children, so she adopted two kids, a boy and a girl. They are both family to us and have never been treated any differently. I understand that is a rare occurrence though.

myra manes

July 26th, 2009, 02:44 PM

I know I was pissed off too. How can anyone blame an 8 year old child for being raped.

Then I seen Casey fucked up looking picture in the corner and got pissed off again :hello:

I see everyone else is crazy fucking mad about it too ..
Wonder what her siblings are thinking about all this shit?

Have the fucking loser parents been charged yet?

For being fucking assholes .. :mad:

:wavey:

Death Bed

July 26th, 2009, 05:10 PM

]Have the fucking loser parents been charged yet?

For being fucking assholes .. :mad:

If being an asshole was against the law, the majority of us on this board would be facing life sentences without possibility of parole.

myra manes

July 26th, 2009, 05:31 PM

If being an asshole was against the law, the majority of us on this board would be facing life sentences without possibility of parole.

I definitely don't put myself in the same category as these fucks (parents) .. :wavey:

DarkPrincess

July 26th, 2009, 10:41 PM

"The parents felt that they had been shamed or embarrassed by their child," Phoenix police Sgt. Andy Hill said Thursday.
"The family [believes they] have been shamed by her ... and they're more concerned about that than the crime,"
Tony Weedor -- co-founder of the CenterPoint International Foundation, which aids Liberians in the United States and provides aid for those still in Liberia -- agreed with Hill. He said rape was not against the law in Liberia until 2006.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/24/liberia.arizona.juvenile.assault/index.html

I understand cultural values and it has been going on way longer there, than The US has been settled. I think it is unrealistic to expect immigrants to conform to our laws and customs for this reason. This is a good arguement for the push to stop immigration.
Either that or get used to it.

How about conform to our laws or get the fuck out? If your beliefs are going to clash with American laws, you either let go of it or you don't come here. That's how I feel. This story makes me ill on so many levels. First, rape is horribly traumatic for anyone let alone a child. The purps were children too and I have to wonder who is raising these little demons. Then this traumatized girl is abandoned by her own family. She probably feels like it was her fault, even more so now that her parents don't want her. I'm heartsick for her.

Death Bed

July 26th, 2009, 10:56 PM

I definitely don't put myself in the same category as these fucks (parents) .. :wavey:

I would hope not, and I wasn't trying to infer that you were.

Ninja0980

July 26th, 2009, 11:32 PM

I'm with you DarkPrincess. PC goes out the door regarding culture and traditions when in involves the maiming or killing of others. If you don't like it, get the hell out.

malq

July 27th, 2009, 01:10 AM

How about conform to our laws or get the fuck out? If your beliefs are going to clash with American laws, you either let go of it or you don't come here. That's how I feel. This story makes me ill on so many levels. First, rape is horribly traumatic for anyone let alone a child. The purps were children too and I have to wonder who is raising these little demons. Then this traumatized girl is abandoned by her own family. She probably feels like it was her fault, even more so now that her parents don't want her. I'm heartsick for her.
That's exactly what I wanted to say dp. I thought for once I would tone it down. LOL

DarkPrincess

July 27th, 2009, 04:12 PM

That's exactly what I wanted to say dp. I thought for once I would tone it down. LOL

I kicked it up a notch. BAM!

trams

July 28th, 2009, 04:59 AM

The asshole father is now claiming that a doctor told him she wasnt sexually assaulted and that they want her back. CPS is keeping her in custody.

Whisper

August 2nd, 2009, 11:04 PM

A 14-year-old boy has been indicted in connection with the rape of an 8-year-old Liberian refugee at a Phoenix apartment complex, authorities said Saturday.

Police say four boys, also from Liberia, lured the girl to an empty storage shed July 16 with the promise of chewing gum. Investigators say the boys restrained her and took turns sexually assaulting her.

The incident ignited an international outcry after it was reported the girl's father said he was ashamed of her. A family pastor later said that was a misunderstanding.

The Maricopa County Attorney's Office announced Saturday that a county grand jury indicted the 14-year-old on one count of kidnapping, one count of sexual assault, one count of attempted sexual conduct with a minor and four counts of sexual conduct with a minor.

A message seeking comment was left Saturday with the boy's public defender.

Prosecutors have charged the 14-year-old as an adult, while the other boys — ages 9, 10 and 13 — have been charged in juvenile court with sexual assault. The 10- and 13-year-olds also have been charged with kidnapping.

All four boys were arrested July 21. Their identities are being withheld because of their ages.

The girl is now in foster care.

In some parts of Africa, women often are blamed for being raped for enticing men or simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Girls who are raped often are shunned by their families.

In recent years, Liberia has made efforts to combat rape under Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf's leadership. She has sought to dispel the stigma associated with sexual assault by publicly acknowledging that she was herself the victim of attempted rape during the country's civil war.http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,536144,00.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r4:c0 .194369:b26897992:z0

Steven Tuopeh

thequeenofsorrow

August 11th, 2009, 08:45 PM

This poor child is still suffering!!!

Sunday, August 09, 2009

Liberia's deputy ambassador to the U.S. said he tried to console an 8-year-old rape victim in Phoenix with hugs and a teddy bear in a case that has gripped Liberians worldwide.

Deputy Ambassador Edwin Sele said the girl, a Liberian refugee, cried heavily during their meeting on Saturday and that she needs to be reunited with her family to get the best care possible.

"I talked with her and I took her a teddy bear," he said. "She was very distressed, she's really traumatized."

Phoenix police allege four boys, all Liberian refugees ages 9 to 14, lured the girl to an empty storage shed July 16 with the promise of chewing gum, then restrained and raped her.

The case sparked an international outcry after police reported the girl's father said she brought shame on the family and he didn't want her back. Authorities said the comments prompted Child Protective Services to take custody of the girl.

Sele, who met with the girl's parents, said a language barrier had caused a misunderstanding over the comments. Sele also said the parents were desperate to see their daughter again.

"The families are not the criminals," he said.

The girl also wants to see her parents and feels like being kept from them is a punishment, Sele said. "She's feeling like, 'What has happened? What have I done?"

Sele was on his last full day in Phoenix as part of a fact-finding trip. He met with police, child care workers prosecutors and the children's family members at the request of Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf. Sele also had hoped to meet with the four boys charged with raping the girl, but was stopped by lawyers.

The 14-year-old boy who so far is the only one being charged as an adult in the rape is scheduled for a court hearing Monday. He is charged with one count each of kidnapping, sexual assault and attempted sexual conduct with a minor, and four counts of sexual conduct with a minor.

Prosecutors are seeking adult charges against the 13-year-old accused in the case, while two 10-year-olds are charged in juvenile court with sexual conduct. One of them also is charged with kidnapping. Both boys are scheduled for mental competency hearings Aug. 18.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,538681,00.html?sPage=fnc/us/crime

Turd Fergusen

August 11th, 2009, 10:15 PM

I just read today that there was a error in translation and the family feels disgraced but never said they didn't want her. They do want her back.

cubby

August 11th, 2009, 10:29 PM

I hope they want her back to love her and not to abuse her. Cause if they really feel disgraced by her they will not be able to treat her with love. Poor child victimized by everyone so far.

MC30

August 12th, 2009, 12:38 AM

bull shit. on CNN Today aug 11 2009 they showed her older sister saying 'she was nothing but trouble, all she brought was trouble to our family'...that may have been a sound-bite but the fact is her family said it...in fact her older sister said it...
does it make a difference if she said it now or at the time? fuck her family! ya gonna' leave a war-torn country where people are fighting, and dying, and raping in the streets, to the usa and then get pissed off when young men of the same country as you are doing it as well 'cause they were brought up to do? and then you abandon your NINE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER...BECAUSE SHE WAS RAPED??? fuck you and go back to Liberia! oh, so now its a breakdown in communication? assholes....you fucking know what you said and i pray that little girl never has to see your STUPID faces again....(yeah, sure, we misunderstood you when you said 'we don't want her anymore'
...yeah...right.)

Whisper

August 12th, 2009, 12:49 AM

Ive said it before and Ill say it again,they send that little girl back to them, your going to see another honor klilling in the papers!

Turd Fergusen

August 12th, 2009, 01:31 AM

I know what I posted, but I agree with you guys. Her family is no place for her to go. I just hope a good foster home picks her up.

cubby

August 12th, 2009, 08:59 PM

Ive said it before and Ill say it again,they send that little girl back to them, your going to see another honor klilling in the papers!

That's exactly what I'm afraid of too. To say it was all a mistake, that they really didn't want to send her away is trying to save face after they underestimated the amount of support that the little girl would have here in America. Afterwards when all the heat is off that little girl is gonna end up dead or worse. And you know there can be worse.:frustrating:

Whisper

August 12th, 2009, 09:57 PM

Sorry out of thanks but thanks e1

Whisper

August 13th, 2009, 02:41 PM

Found this late lastnight when I was reading the paper Raped girl killed over family 'honour'August 12, 2009

A 41-YEAR-OLD Jordanian man was charged with premeditated murder after his raped teenage niece was shot dead on Tuesday to "cleanse" the family's honour, police said.

"The man was arrested and charged after he shot the 16-year-old girl eight times in different parts of her body,'' in the Nasser area east of Amman, a police source said.

"The suspect, who was arrested while carrying his gun, confessed to the crime, saying that he wanted to cleanse his family's honour after his niece was raped last year. She gave birth to a baby boy two months ago and her family kept the child.''

Murder is punishable by the death penalty in Jordan, but in the case of so-called "honour killings'', a court usually commutes or reduces sentences, particularly if the victim's family urges leniency.

Between 15 and 20 women are murdered each year in Jordan in the name of honour, despite government efforts to fight such crimes.

Parliament has refused to reform the penal code to ensure harsher penalties. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25918222-12377,00.html
Honour killings: domestic abuse by another name?Alleged honour killings in CanadaIt's unknown how many cases of honour killings have happened in Canada, but the following is a selection of deaths reported as such:

Farah Khan, 5

Her father beat the Toronto girl to death and dismembered her in 1999 while her stepmother watched. The father is said to have killed the little girl because he believed she wasn't biologically his.

Jaswinder Kaur Sidhu, 25

The B.C.-born woman was found dead in 2000 after moving to India to live with her new husband, who was also beaten a day earlier. Her mother and uncle were among nine people charged in India with conspiracy to kill Sidhu.

Amandeep Atwal, 17

Her father was convicted in her stabbing death in 2003 in B.C. He apparently disapproved of her relationship with her high-school sweetheart, who was from a different ethnic group.

Khatera Sadiqi, 20
Sadiqi and her fiancé were shot to death in 2006 while parked in a car outside an Ottawa shopping plaza. Her brother was found guilty of murdering them. He told the court that he wanted his sister to respect their father.

Aqsa Parvez, 16

The teen was found strangled in her family's Mississauga home in 2007. Her brother and father have been charged with first-degree murder. Parvez's friends said she'd been having arguments with her father about wearing a traditional hijab.

The Shafia family

The Shafia sisters — Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, and Geeti, 13, — were found dead in a submerged car in Kingston, Ont., on June 30, 2009, along with their father's first wife, Rona Mohammed, 50. The sisters' parents and 18-year-old brother have been charged with four counts of first-degree murder. Although police have not released an official motive for the killing, they have hinted at cultural undertones in the case and are investigating the possibility that the deaths were honour killings.And there are many more at this site http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/07/24/f-honour-killings.html The first story up on the list Farah Khan Ill never forget that one.Its not to far from me(3 hours) and my brother lived in that area at the time,those parents are lucky they are alive only b/c cops had to protect them.There were gangs of people wanting to lynch these 2 or stone them to death and I wouldve glady bought a ticket and supplied the after party

thequeenofsorrow

August 19th, 2009, 10:22 PM

2 Liberian boys deemed incompetent for rape trial

"I want to go home."

That's what a sobbing 10-year-old boy accused of rape told a Maricopa County Superior Court judge in Juvenile Court on Tuesday before learning he will soon be released from detention.

But he will not be going home to his family.
Instead, he and a 9-year-old boy believed to have participated in a brutal sexual assault on a young girl last month will be released to the custody of state Child Protective Services and placed in separate "therapeutic" foster-care homes until final decisions are made on whether they should be tried.
In the case of the younger boy, a trial appears less likely because he appears unable to grasp the charges facing him.

Juvenile Court judges in separate hearings ordered that the two boys be released from detention by 5 p.m. today.

Both boys underwent mental evaluations that found them to be incompetent to stand trial. The older boy, however, was ordered into "restoration" to educate him on the court system and on what is acceptable for him to talk about. If, within six months, he is re-evaluated and found to be competent, he can enter a plea agreement or be ordered to stand trial.

The younger boy was deemed to be "unrestorable," meaning he should not be tried. But prosecutor Cindi Nannetti asked the court for an evidentiary hearing before the judge considers dropping charges against him altogether.

The boys and two older friends are accused of luring an 8-year-old girl to an empty storage closet at a west Phoenix apartment complex last month. One of the boys held her down while they all took turns assaulting her.

The children all are refugees from the West African nation of Liberia.

The oldest of the suspects, Steven Tuopeh, 14, has been charged as an adult with sexual assault, sexual conduct with a minor and kidnapping.

The Maricopa County Attorney's Office has filed a petition to try a 13-year-old suspect as an adult on the same charges. Mental-competency hearings in his case will be held in September to determine whether he is mature enough to understand the adult-court proceedings and assist his attorney in his defense.

The difference in possible punishments is significant. If adjudicated as a delinquent in Juvenile Court, the boy could not be held in custody beyond his 18th birthday, and there would be no set minimum or maximum confinement.

If convicted in adult court, either boy could spend the rest of his life in prison.

Because the two other boys are so young, Arizona law requires that they undergo mental evaluation to determine if they understand why they would be on trial, even in Juvenile Court. The evaluation takes into account their intelligence, maturity, learning disabilities, language and cultural issues.

As explained in separate court hearings Tuesday, each boy was interviewed by two experts and deemed incompetent to stand trial.

The younger boy was pronounced too immature to grasp the concepts of the justice system. Nannetti asked for the evidentiary hearing so evaluators will have to explain their reasoning. Other adults, including school employees, could be called, as well.

The 10-year-old will see a restoration specialist at least twice a week to try to help him understand the role of judges and lawyers, his own rights, including the right to remain silent, and the implications of plea agreements. If, after six months of restoration, he is still determined to be incompetent, the judge can ask for another two months of restoration sessions or drop the charges.

But even if the charges they face as delinquents are dropped, the boys will be subject to separate dependency proceedings to determine whether they can return to their families or remain wards of the court to be placed in foster care or treatment.

Nannetti had asked the court to keep the boys in custody.

"I don't want there to be a rush to release these boys, because they are a risk to the community," she said.

But the boys' lawyers and their court-appointed guardian lobbied for them to go into foster care. One will be placed with a retired teacher who will home-school him as he undergoes restoration. The other will be placed with the single mother of an older child.
Both will be required to wear electronic-monitoring devices with GPS tracking so the Juvenile Probation Department is assured of their whereabouts.

Neither can have contact with children 7 and younger without adult supervision, and they must turn over their refugee cards to the court to ensure they cannot leave the country. The boys were living with relatives who are not their legal guardians. Their parents are still in Africa.
During the first hearing, one uncle stood up and asked Judge Aimee Anderson, "Is (the boy) guilty?" He objected to the boy being placed in foster care instead of with the family.

When Anderson explained that the boy would go to foster care, the boy's grandmother began shouting in the African language called Krahn, causing the boy to sob bitterly.

She shook her finger at the judge as she was escorted, screaming, out of the courtroom. A Krahn interpreter explained that she was railing against the CPS, saying that they could not take her grandson away from her because he was just a child.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/ahwatukee/articles/2009/08/18/20090818children-sexassault18-ON.html

Just my luck sucks

August 19th, 2009, 10:36 PM

The children all are refugees from the West African nation of Liberia.

I feel like I'm channeling Pete tonight. Pack 'em up, send them back.

scorpiogirl

August 26th, 2009, 10:59 PM

PHOENIX - There is developing news in the case of an eight-year-old Liberian girl allegedly gang raped here in the Valley.
New Developments
August 26th, 2009
Parents facing charges - The parents of an 8-year-old girl allegedly raped by a group of boys are now facing charges of child abuse.

The four boys accused in her attack are not the only ones facing charges.

Investigators are going after everyone who has allegedly hurt that little girl, including her own parents.

Police have filed child abuse charges with the county attorney's office.

They're not releasing the names of the suspects but we have confirmed they are the parents of the 8-year old victim.

3TV also uncovered new police reports with disturbing descriptions of that alleged abuse.

3TV went to the parent's house to ask the father about the most recent abuse allegations.

The father told us he was unaware of the police investigation against him.

One that started after investigators say four boys ranging in age from 9 to 14 gang raped his eight-year-old daughter in an apartment shed. All of the boys are Liberian refugees.

CPS took the child away after police reports stated the father blamed her for the alleged rape saying it was her fault and that he didn't care if she ever returned.

Officers say the mother tried to drag her inside by the ear.

"We did not arrest them because we believe at this point the child is not in harm's way, she is in a safe place, however based upon the information that we have we will seek the charges," Phoenix police.

Phoenix police tell us they've gone to the apartment complex at least four times before, all from people calling in to say they've seen the young girl wandering the complex, alone. Often times at night and sometimes even begging for food.

In fact, over the last few years we've learned there here have been eight calls to CPS.

We found this Glendale police report where school administrators called saying the child showed up to class with cuts and bruises on her face.

When officers went to the home witnesses told them they had seen the mother hitting the child with a closed fist on the top of the head several times.

Others said the parents used a stick to hit her in the face and the back of the head.

Even beat her with a wire.

CPS took the child away for a weekend, got the family counseling and gave her back.

Police have no information that there was any victimization of the other children at home being in any danger.

His child is still with CPS and CPS will not comment on the issue. http://www.azfamily.com/news/homepagetopstory/stories/phoenix-news-082609-developments-liberian-case.11c77551b.html

Chaindrive

August 26th, 2009, 11:21 PM

Whoa.

And wtf is "restoration"?

Just my luck sucks

August 26th, 2009, 11:58 PM

Whoa.

And wtf is "restoration"?

What and where do you see this?

Chaindrive

August 27th, 2009, 12:09 AM

The older boy, however, was ordered into "restoration" to educate him on the court system and on what is acceptable for him to talk about.

The younger boy was deemed to be "unrestorable," meaning he should not be tried.

The 10-year-old will see a restoration specialist at least twice a week

One will be placed with a retired teacher who will home-school him as he undergoes restoration.

There.

Just my luck sucks

August 27th, 2009, 12:18 AM

There where? Link? Man am I confused. Read the article at the link and am NOT seeing what you are saying. Maybe I need a new Rx for glasses.

Chaindrive

August 27th, 2009, 01:36 AM

You can borrow mine, although you'd probably be blind after looking through them for 15 seconds or so.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/ahwatukee/articles/2009/08/18/20090818children-sexassault18-ON.html

"I want to go home."

That's what a sobbing 10-year-old boy accused of rape told a Maricopa County Superior Court judge in Juvenile Court on Tuesday before learning he will soon be released from detention.

But he will not be going home to his family.
Instead, he and a 9-year-old boy believed to have participated in a brutal sexual assault on a young girl last month will be released to the custody of state Child Protective Services and placed in separate "therapeutic" foster-care homes until final decisions are made on whether they should be tried.

In the case of the younger boy, a trial appears less likely because he appears unable to grasp the charges facing him.

Juvenile Court judges in separate hearings ordered that the two boys be released from detention by 5 p.m. today.

Both boys underwent mental evaluations that found them to be incompetent to stand trial. The older boy, however, was ordered into "restoration" to educate him on the court system and on what is acceptable for him to talk about. If, within six months, he is re-evaluated and found to be competent, he can enter a plea agreement or be ordered to stand trial.

The younger boy was deemed to be "unrestorable," meaning he should not be tried. But prosecutor Cindi Nannetti asked the court for an evidentiary hearing before the judge considers dropping charges against him altogether.

The boys and two older friends are accused of luring an 8-year-old girl to an empty storage closet at a west Phoenix apartment complex last month. One of the boys held her down while they all took turns assaulting her.

The children all are refugees from the West African nation of Liberia.

The oldest of the suspects, Steven Tuopeh, 14, has been charged as an adult with sexual assault, sexual conduct with a minor and kidnapping.

The Maricopa County Attorney's Office has filed a petition to try a 13-year-old suspect as an adult on the same charges. Mental-competency hearings in his case will be held in September to determine whether he is mature enough to understand the adult-court proceedings and assist his attorney in his defense.

The difference in possible punishments is significant. If adjudicated as a delinquent in Juvenile Court, the boy could not be held in custody beyond his 18th birthday, and there would be no set minimum or maximum confinement.

If convicted in adult court, either boy could spend the rest of his life in prison.

Because the two other boys are so young, Arizona law requires that they undergo mental evaluation to determine if they understand why they would be on trial, even in Juvenile Court. The evaluation takes into account their intelligence, maturity, learning disabilities, language and cultural issues.

As explained in separate court hearings Tuesday, each boy was interviewed by two experts and deemed incompetent to stand trial.

The younger boy was pronounced too immature to grasp the concepts of the justice system. Nannetti asked for the evidentiary hearing so evaluators will have to explain their reasoning. Other adults, including school employees, could be called, as well.

The 10-year-old will see a restoration specialist at least twice a week to try to help him understand the role of judges and lawyers, his own rights, including the right to remain silent, and the implications of plea agreements. If, after six months of restoration, he is still determined to be incompetent, the judge can ask for another two months of restoration sessions or drop the charges.

But even if the charges they face as delinquents are dropped, the boys will be subject to separate dependency proceedings to determine whether they can return to their families or remain wards of the court to be placed in foster care or treatment.

Nannetti had asked the court to keep the boys in custody.

"I don't want there to be a rush to release these boys, because they are a risk to the community," she said.

But the boys' lawyers and their court-appointed guardian lobbied for them to go into foster care. One will be placed with a retired teacher who will home-school him as he undergoes restoration. The other will be placed with the single mother of an older child.

Both will be required to wear electronic-monitoring devices with GPS tracking so the Juvenile Probation Department is assured of their whereabouts.

Neither can have contact with children 7 and younger without adult supervision, and they must turn over their refugee cards to the court to ensure they cannot leave the country. The boys were living with relatives who are not their legal guardians. Their parents are still in Africa.

During the first hearing, one uncle stood up and asked Judge Aimee Anderson, "Is (the boy) guilty?" He objected to the boy being placed in foster care instead of with the family.

When Anderson explained that the boy would go to foster care, the boy's grandmother began shouting in the African language called Krahn, causing the boy to sob bitterly.

She shook her finger at the judge as she was escorted, screaming, out of the courtroom. A Krahn interpreter explained that she was railing against the CPS, saying that they could not take her grandson away from her because he was just a child.

Sorry, I reposted the entire article so you could see the context of the restoration.

Dakota Valkyrie

August 27th, 2009, 10:46 AM

And wtf is "restoration"?
Near as I can tell, in AZ they use the term "restoration" to mean treatment or rehabilitation. (mental health/behavior modification)

thebooblady

August 27th, 2009, 11:20 AM

These people are like animals.

Mare

August 27th, 2009, 11:35 AM

The parents don’t want this girl back. They are taking her back because of pr and to ensure they obtain their residency in the US. When refugees enter, they are basically on a “probationary” period for the first 12 months. After 12 months, they make an application for permanent residency. Considering how much publicity this case has gotten, chances are, if they do not take the child back , then the examining Immigration official could find a reason to deny the case (which would place the family in deportation processing and ultimately send them back to Liberia) .
On the other hand, accepting the daughter back into he family will further validate their refugee status and claim because they will cry to the Immigration officer and point to the daughter to validate their claim and show what type of culture they would be going back to if their permanent status is not granted (child getting raped).
I am sure this was all very well explained to them and that’s why the statement that the father made became lost in translation. You know, because saying I don’t want her back really means, I would love to have her back.

As for parents getting arrested for abuse: Why now? It seems they were reported to child services 8 times and it takes a rape for some type of action to happen? I would love to hear an explanation from child services officials.

Dakota Valkyrie

September 18th, 2009, 01:56 PM

New Details Emerge In Liberian Girl's Abuse Case: Charges sought against parents

[...]
The alleged sexual assault was the ninth incident reported where neighbors felt the child was in danger.

According to a new report issued by Phoenix police, neighbors and concerned adults began reporting incidents of concern with the child as far back as October 2005.

The incidents ranged from the child wandering around her apartment complex unsupervised to stopping adults saying she was lost and could not find her way home, the report said.

In 2007, the child's elementary school reported to authorities the girl had a bloody and bruised cheek.

One neighbor called police to report that the girl's mother had been seen dragging the child through the dirt into their home.

In most of these cases, even though police responded, according to the reports there was insufficient evidence to charge the parents with a crime.

The Maricopa County attorney's office said they are reviewing the cases and are determining whether or not charges will be filed against the parents. Those charges can range from child neglect to child abuse.

A Child Protective Services representative said they were unsure if the 8-year-old, along with her minor siblings, remained in the custody of their parents.http://www.kpho.com/news/20972956/detail.html

Awhell

September 18th, 2009, 02:01 PM

A. Don't you think after 9 different 911 calls concerning the safety of the same child, the accusations could stand on their own merit alone? I think so. If these reports were coming from different people, then yeah, by the 9th time, just take the kids already.

B. If CPS doesn't know if she is still with the so called parents, I think now would be a good time to check on that. In person. With a warrant.

biteme

September 18th, 2009, 02:14 PM

Sister Iroz

September 30th, 2009, 06:47 PM

PHOENIX (AP) -- The foster mother of a 9-year-old boy accused in the gang-rape of an 8-year-old Liberian girl testified Tuesday that the boy is flourishing in her home and is so happy there that he sings all the time.

The foster mother's testimony came under questioning by the prosecution, which is trying to prove that the boy can be rendered competent to stand trial. Her testimony stood in sharp contrast to that of the boy's schoolteacher, who said in court Monday that he often got into fights with other students, got poor grades and was a frequent disruption to his class. The foster mother, whose identity was not released, said that the boy is the one who reminds her to call his probation officer when they leave the house, charges the electronic monitoring device he wears on his ankle by himself, and hasn't given her any trouble in the nearly two months he's been in her home.

"He's blending into the home like he's been there all the time," the foster mother said, adding that she believes the boy is happy with her. "He shows it. He sings all the time."

[...]

Testimony on Monday and Tuesday were designed to help Judge Dawn Bergin decide if one of the 9-year-olds charged in the rape is competent to stand trial. Two mental-health experts found that he is not, and Bergin must listen to testimony from them and others before she makes a decision at the next hearing on Nov. 18.

The foster mother said Tuesday that the boy does all his chores without being asked, speaks English well and even beats her at the board game Monopoly.

[...]

Toya Abrams, the boy's second-grade teacher, testified Monday that the boy's family never attended his parent-teacher conferences or signed his homework and that she was concerned about his home environment.

[...]
http://www.azdailysun.com/articles/2009/09/30/news/state/20090930_arizo_204653.txt

sheevaa

September 30th, 2009, 08:04 PM

The foster mother of a 9-year-old boy accused in the gang-rape of an 8-year-old Liberian girl testified Tuesday that the boy is flourishing in her home and is so happy there that he sings all the time.

Well, isn't that just peachy keen for him. He gets a nice shiny new family for committing a horrible crime. What about the girl, is there any word about her?

Lizard

November 21st, 2009, 05:15 AM

Parents arrested.

(CNN) -- Arizona police arrested the parents of an 8-year-old Liberian girl who was allegedly sexually assaulted by four boys in July.

The father, 59, and mother, 47, were arrested Friday in Phoenix on seven counts of child abuse, said police spokesman Sgt. Andy Hill.

...

The child abuse investigation was based on documented incidents from the Phoenix Police Department and numerous referrals to Arizona Child Protective Services dating to 2005.

Police said the parents, refugees from the West African nation, used sticks, wires and their fists to hit their young daughter.

Witnesses told CNN affiliate KTVK that the parents left their daughter wandering their apartment complex alone at night, begging for food.

Details of the girl's assault last summer shocked the nation. She was allegedly lured to a storage shed, pinned down and gang-raped by four boys, none of them older than 14.

The parents said they felt they had been shamed by their child and blamed her for being victimized. As a result, the girl was taken from her home and placed in state custody.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/21/arizona.abuse.arrests/

vipjohnson

November 21st, 2009, 01:38 PM

PHOENIX -- Phoenix police arrested the parents of an 8-year-old Liberian girl who was allegedly gang raped in July.

On Friday police served arrest warrants for Hemie Dio, 59, and Wedeh Dio, 47, for numerous counts of child abuse. Officers waited for them to come home from work and then arrested them as they got out of their car.

Hemie Dio yelled at a 3TV reporter who was there while he was being arrested; Wedeh Dio said nothing.
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Parents-of-Liberian-girl-allegedly-raped-back-in-July-arrested-by-Phoenix-police-70669872.html

I found Hemie's mug shot but still haven't found one for Wedeh:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/vipjohnson/dio.jpg
http://www.mcso.org/

porkchop

November 22nd, 2009, 05:50 AM

http://i49.tinypic.com/2cfz96x.jpg
59-year-old Hemis Dio and his wife, 47-year-old Wedeh Dio

video of these two and lots of extra's at link

On two separate occasions, police say child neglect reports were filed against Dio and his wife. The Dios each face eight counts for a series of abuse and neglect incidents dating back to 2005. Not only do they face years in prison -- they could be deported back to Liberia.

An immigration case is immediately opened when a refugee gets arrested.
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/liberian_girl_parents_arrested_112009

Good, get the @$%^ out!

Lizard

November 22nd, 2009, 06:07 AM

Good, get the @$%^ out!

Um, porkchop. You can say "fuck" here.

skeptik

November 22nd, 2009, 10:33 AM

Ship these vicious fuckers back YESTERDAY.

Ninja0980

November 22nd, 2009, 03:46 PM

Boot their asses back to Liberia. I don't care what your customs etc are, when you come to the U.S. or go to any other country, you follow their laws. If you can't, then get the hell out.

popeyeray

November 22nd, 2009, 05:55 PM

As a person who has worked with kids like this, let me tell you: they don't take this seriously. And they don't feel guilty, and they don't give a damn what happens to anyone around them. They're sociopaths (http://www.k-state.edu/womenscenter/Staff/Wolf.jpg),
http://www.k-state.edu/womenscenter/Staff/Wolf.jpg
born and bred.

coffee achiever

November 22nd, 2009, 10:12 PM

Frankly, I'd like these two off my planet. Failing that, out of my country will do nicely.

MC30

November 22nd, 2009, 10:42 PM

Frankly, I'd like these two off my planet. Failing that, out of my country will do nicely.

out of thanks...Thank You!

DogMom

December 16th, 2009, 03:13 PM

Ariz. judge tosses rape case against Liberian boy

PHOENIX — Sexual assault charges against a 9-year-old Liberian boy accused in the gang-rape of an 8-year-old girl were dismissed on Wednesday by a juvenile court judge in Phoenix.

The ruling issued by Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Dawn Bergin came after she spent weeks considering if the boy could be made to understand the charges against him. In the seven-page decision, she ruled that the boy could not and is incompetent to stand trial. The charges, sexual assault and sexual contact with a minor, can't be refiled.

Bergin noted in her ruling that because the offense was "serious" the boy is considered a dependent child under Arizona law and programs are available to rehabilitate him and protect the public. He was held in juvenile detention for a month after his arrest and then placed in a Child Protective Services' foster home, where he remains.

His name is being withheld because of his age.

A 14-year-old is charged as an adult in the case. A 13-year-old is undergoing a court-ordered process intended to make him competent to stand trial. Another 9-year-old has been ruled incompetent but is undergoing classes to teach him about the court system and become competent to stand trial.

The girl's 59-year-old father and 47-year-old mother each face eight child abuse counts for a series of abuse and neglect incidents dating back to 2005. Those charges were filed last month.

Two mental health professionals testified during hearings in September and November that the boy whose case was dismissed on Wednesday was incompetent and couldn't be made competent with the eight months required under Arizona law. Competency means he can consult with a lawyer, understand the lawyer's advice and the legal proceedings.

Prosecutors argued at the hearings that the boy had made substantial progress since being placed in foster care and could likely be restored to competency.

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/ariz-judge-tosses-rape-242741.html

Dakota Valkyrie

January 7th, 2010, 04:10 PM

A 13-year-old Liberian boy charged in Arizona with the gang-rape of an 8-year-old girl has been released from custody and turned over to his parents.

The boy still has to take lessons designed to make him competent to stand trial. The Associated Press is not naming because of his age.

A juvenile judge says the boy has made progress in his lessons to understand the charges against him and how the justice system works.

He is charged in juvenile court with sexual assault and kidnapping, but prosecutors want him to be tried as an adult.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/07/ap/national/main6068609.shtml

Too bad his parents didn't give him a lesson on not raping anyone before this all happened.

Pazuzu

January 7th, 2010, 04:14 PM

The boy still has to take lessons designed to make him competent to stand trial.

What the hell does that mean? How do you teach someone to be competent?

ineedanap

January 7th, 2010, 04:20 PM

What the hell does that mean? How do you teach someone to be competent?

Especially a 13 year old who doesn't know right from wrong, has no impulse control, and a pack mentality. I would like to see the definition of "competent".

Dakota Valkyrie

January 7th, 2010, 04:24 PM

What the hell does that mean? How do you teach someone to be competent?
He's getting lessons on the judicial system and how it works. It's not the same as mental incompetent.

If he's a smart boy, he'll play stupid.

Pazuzu

January 7th, 2010, 04:26 PM

He's getting lessons on the judicial system and how it works. It's not the same as mental incompetent.

If he's a smart boy, he'll play stupid.

I'm not sure he has to play. At 13 I understood the judicial system. Then again, I am rather bright :crazy:

battery jackson

January 7th, 2010, 04:47 PM

i am curious as to whether any of those boys knew or were involved with charles taylor's raping, acid tripping, machine gun toting child army...

i hope the 9 year old boy who apparently sings in his happy new home will be alright, but what about the girl?????

CadburyCremeGirl

January 7th, 2010, 05:56 PM

I have read all that is said and I have these things to say:
1) I am surprised that their supporters havent come on here and said something.
2) These "people" needed to be shot out of a rocket and into the sun. I don't care if it is their "culture" or "heritage". What they did was reprehensible. When culture/heritage turns your people into sociopaths, you should have the wherewithall to pull away and say "you know, this is a bad idea". As for the egg donor, I would punish her by riping out her uterus and filling it with glass. She should have maternal instinct but apparently she doesn't.

sorry for sounding so violent but little ones being molested by boys who were taught from age one that a girl/woman is for their pleasure(sound familiar?) sickens me. I know that there are some good folks who are African, but honestly...let me keep my mouth closed.

Dakota Valkyrie

March 25th, 2010, 05:47 PM

A Liberian teenager charged in the gang-rape of an 8-year-old girl was ordered by a judge Thursday to undergo therapy in the juvenile system.

Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Michael Kemp said the boy, now 15, would be released in less than three years. The teen had faced more than 25 years in prison if convicted as an adult.
http://www.kpho.com/news/22956682/detail.html#

Whisper

May 10th, 2010, 11:36 PM

Parents of Liberian Rape Victim Leave Jail
PHOENIX - The parents of an 8-year-old Liberian girl who was raped by four boys at a Phoenix apartment complex have been released from jail.
59-year-old Hemis Dio and his wife, 47-year-old Wedeh, were arrested in November on child abuse charges.
Prosecutors say they failed to protect their daughter. In the years before the rape, CPS had been called out their home several times on reports of abuse and neglect.
A judge released the Dios into the custody of their pastor, who will help them find a place to live.
They were told they are not allowed to have any contact with their daughter.
[....]http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/parents-of-liberian-victim-leave-jail-5-10-2010 http://i43.tinypic.com/vr5ule.jpg

runecire

May 11th, 2010, 01:55 AM

Keep these pathetic excuses of parents as far from the girl as possible.

Ninja0980

May 11th, 2010, 03:51 AM

How about they deport them? If they like the customs of Liberia so much, they should go back there. I HATE hearing defenders of people like this who use the in their country, it's a cultural thing blah blah. Guess what,when you arrive in the U.S., you're subject to U.S. laws. What is considered "honorable" or "acceptable" in your country means JACK.
I feel the same way when Americian tourists get in trouble in other countries and try to use the I'm an Americian card. If you can't respect or abide by other countries laws, then stay the hell out.

CadburyCremeGirl

May 11th, 2010, 06:58 AM

I have to agree with Ninja. Either adapt or GTFO. But yes, those parents do need to be deported. If you cannot take care of your child in a responsible manner, we can help you by making sure you never see the kid again.

Dakota Valkyrie

June 3rd, 2010, 08:42 PM

A Maricopa County Juvenile Court judge Wednesday placed a 15-year-old refugee from Liberia on probation and sent him to a secure treatment center for his role in the July gang rape of an 8-year-old girl.

"I struggle to figure out how anything like this could have happened," said Judge Samuel Thumma, reflecting on an attack in which the girl was sexually assaulted by four boys close to her own age.

Thumma took the teen to task as the oldest in the incident.

"When someone looks up to you, that's something no money in the world can buy," he said. "But when you lead someone who looks up to you down the wrong path, that's a hard thing to live with."

Thumma deferred whether to require the teen to be labeled a sex offender until the court sees how he responds to treatment.

The teen will remain in treatment for at least a year. Unless a judge rules otherwise, he will remain on probation until he is 18.

In most cases, The Republic does not identify juvenile defendants unless they are charged as an adult. The teen originally was charged as an adult, but after examination by a psychologist, he was sent back to Juvenile Court. Then he pleaded guilty to kidnapping, sexual assault, sexual conduct with a minor and attempted sexual conduct with a minor.
[...]

At Wednesday's appearance, the teen offered an apology to the victim.

"I feel terribly bad about it," he said, "and I hope she's OK."
[...]

The girl is in foster care. Her parents were charged with child abuse for unrelated incidents but were released from jail last month because the Superior Court was unable to provide interpreters for court appearances.

The youngest of the four boys was found incompetent to stand trial and charges against him were dismissed in December. The second-youngest has also been found incompetent and has a hearing today at which charges will likely be dropped.

The third will be back in court June 14. He has already gone through the maximum number of days allowed to try to educate him so that he can be tried in court.

The court is awaiting a final psychological evaluation to decide whether his case goes forward. .
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2010/06/03/20100603liberian-teen-sentenced-for-rape.html

akika666

June 3rd, 2010, 08:47 PM

in treatment. sigh. i'm so very tired.

he's sorry. he hopes she'll be ok. that's nice, he's already getting therapized.:congrats:

cubby

June 3rd, 2010, 09:39 PM

akika666

June 3rd, 2010, 09:55 PM

akika, you do have a way with words, I like that one, therapized, so descriptive.

It's a shame that most of the folks, young and old, have been released either because they can't provide interpreters or they can't educate the younger ones so that they can understand what's going on. So I guess they can do what they want to do and get away with it because nobody speaks their language,

oh, thanks, but i didn't invent it. it's used by exhausted, burned out psychiatry residents to describe our manipulative patients who learn what to say so they appear to be better in the treatment team interview.

it is VERY descriptive and apt, particularly for sociopathic patients.

Dakota Valkyrie

June 15th, 2010, 07:44 PM

A Maricopa County Juvenile Court judge on Monday threw out charges against the lone remaining defendant in the gang rape last July of an 8-year-old girl in west Phoenix.

Judge Bethany Hicks was forced to dismiss the case on a technicality.

The boy, 13, was undergoing "restoration," or schooling to prepare him to understand the court process. An expert deemed him competent to stand trial, but the process was not completed within the time limit set by state law.

Hicks dismissed the case over the objection of Deputy County Attorney Cindi Nannetti, who prosecuted the case. Nannetti said her office will appeal the ruling.

Hicks asked the boy's court-appointed legal guardian to prepare a report as to whether he should remain a ward of the court.
[...]

The 13-year-old remained in restoration. When he was last evaluated in March, he was determined to be incompetent but restorable. Court Commissioner Shellie Smith extended his restoration by 60 days and set a court date for June 14, knowing she already would have rotated off the juvenile bench and that Hicks would take over her calendar.

But on May 20, the boy's defense attorney, Robert Jarvis, asked for an emergency hearing before Smith to warn her that the clock was running out on the boy's restoration.

Jarvis pointed out that state law requires that the defendant be restored within 240 days. But the child is supposed to be evaluated and a report issued two weeks before that end date. Jarvis asked Smith to dismiss the charges because the two-week evaluation date had already passed, and the boy was two days away from the end of his restoration. Therefore, he wanted to base the judge's decision on the boy's last evaluation, which found him incompetent.

Nannetti objected, and Smith ordered that the boy be re-examined the next day. The hearing remained scheduled for June 14.

In the expert's final evaluation, the boy was found competent to stand trial, and Nannetti believed the case would go forward.

But Jarvis raised the issue again on Monday. Hicks pointed out that the clear language of the statute left her no choice but to dismiss the case.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/06/15/20100615liberia0615.html

Kufismacka

June 15th, 2010, 08:08 PM

These little shits need to be shot.. we don't need any more fucking child rapist in this fucked up society.

[edit]We dont need any more rapist period.

akika666

June 15th, 2010, 09:01 PM

These little shits need to be shot.. we don't need any more fucking child rapist in this fucked up society.

[edit]We dont need any more rapist period.

the person you're talking about is a child as well. you wanna shoot children?

Mystica43229

June 17th, 2010, 01:29 AM

PHOENIX - A judge has ordered a bench warrant for the parents of a Liberian girl who was allegedly raped by four boys last year.

Judge Susan Brnovich issued the arrest warrant after Hemie Dio and Wedeh Dio failed to show up for a court hearing.

Authorities say on July 16, 2009, the 8-year-old girl was lured into a storage closet at the apartment complex where she lived and allegedly sexually assaulted by the boys, now 9, 10, 13 and 15.

The girl's parents, Hemie and Dio, have been charged with seven counts of child abuse for incidents unrelated to the alleged sexual assault.

The girl is reportedly in foster care.

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/judge-issues-warrant-for-parents-of-liberian-girl-

MC30

June 17th, 2010, 01:39 AM

Authorities say on July 16, 2009, the 8-year-old girl was lured into a storage closet at the apartment complex where she lived and allegedly sexually assaulted by the boys, now 9, 10, 13 and 15.

yep. and they were the same ages when they did it dumbass. (not you mystica, the idoit who wrote it) when it happened she was 8, and they were: 9, 10, 13, and 15. so when she turns 9, they will all be a year older as well.
the reporting just pisses me off. sorry. end rant.

OOPS..edit. i now get that the 14 was 15. either way, i hate these boys.

Whisper

January 16th, 2012, 03:53 PM

They were charged with child abuse in fall 2009, months after their 8-year-old daughter was the victim of a gang rape that caused scandal in both Arizona and Africa.
But these Liberian immigrants have been lost in translation ever since, unable to go to trial or enter into a plea agreement because their tribal African language does not have words to describe the American justice system.
It is a requirement of due process that defendants understand the charges against them and be able to assist their attorneys with their defense
On Thursday, the couple stood before a Maricopa County Superior Court commissioner tasked with determining whether they are competent to stand trial, a matter that in court parlance is known as a Rule 11 hearing. Competency usually has to do with mental health or intellect, or, in the case of children, whether they are mature enough to comprehend.
These are adults. He is 61; she is 50. Still, the court proceedings are beyond their cultural frame of reference.
"Rule 11 is not for the purpose of educating people from other countries," said the prosecutor, Juli Warzynski. "Because of this, the state does not believe there is reason for the defendant not to stand trial for mental-health reasons."
Indeed, the parents are not mentally ill. But there is still the matter of assisting their attorneys.
"They really don't understand what's going on," said Gerald Gavin, who represents the father.

"There's no way she can help me in a trial," said Sheri Lauritano, who represents the mother.
The Arizona Republic is not publishing the parents' names so as not to identify their child.

They speak an obscure tribal language called Seaside Grebo and come from war-torn Liberia in western Africa. The court has to call an interpreter in Minnesota and put him on speakerphone. But his service does not come close to the level of professionalism provided by the court's Spanish-language interpreters, who understand the workings and terminology of the court.

He sometimes chats with the parents in open court so that no one has any idea of what is being translated.
The gaps in understanding are evident in the simplest questions:
When asked to state their names, both parents responded by saying, "I don't have any other name."
And the cultural divide is enormous. The interpreter cautioned the Rule 11 commissioner that Grebo doesn't even have words for some of the legal concepts.
"How do you translate something there's no word for?" Gavin asked.
During the parents' last court hearing, in December, the mother lashed out verbally at the judge who ordered her to see a psychologist for evaluation.
"What's wrong with me that I have to go to the doctor?" she asked. "I'm not sick."
Then she started clapping her hands and shouting, and her husband joined in shouting as well, reducing the courtroom to chaos.
On Thursday, they were given 45 more days to meet with the attorneys and the evaluators charged with "restoring" them to competency to see what they can do.
[...]
The case set off shock waves, not only in Phoenix but across the U.S., prompting a visit from a Liberian ambassador to meet with local law-enforcement and the Liberian community in Phoenix.
But the youths were all adjudicated by June 2010, with little consequence. The oldest was sent to a juvenile treatment facility and will remain on probation at least until he is 18. The others were found incompetent to stand trial.
The charges against the parents came down in November 2009 and are unrelated to the sexual assault, except that they came to light over the course of the rape investigation. They are each charged with seven counts of child abuse, going back to 2007.
The girl was placed in foster care, though her parents are now granted visits with her.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/01/12/20120112cultural-barriers-mire-abuse-case.html#ixzz1jeWQZyJ6

crimsonsorrow

January 16th, 2012, 04:00 PM

Bring these parents up on charges. Their backwards ass culture shouldn't mean shit to us, here.

I try to be inclusive, but, fuck... Isn't that why they came here? Because their culture wasn't quite cuttin' it?

daaaaammn! that's hot fire right there! I love it!

I don't think anything, not even the strongest brainwashing, could ever take away my motherly instincts.

Tundratot

January 16th, 2012, 04:30 PM

I'm so disgusted with these so-called parents! Drag them to a boat and send them back to Liberia. If they don't understand anything that is happening, how the hell did they ever get here? Were they kidnapped? How did they gain visitation? I think they and their translator are playing the system, frankly.

cubby

January 16th, 2012, 08:11 PM

I agree with Tundratot, all they have to do is look confused and say huh? everytime someone talks to them, easy peasy. Somebody understands something or they wouldn't have gotten as far as they have with what they have to work with.

TearCollector

January 24th, 2012, 12:32 AM

As far as I'm concerned, no one from a 3rd world country, who comes from a place of lawlessness, violence and no understanding of a 1st world should be allowed. I'm not saying all 3rd world countries, but you understand what I mean.

This reminds me of what happened in England not too long.
Immigrants from a war torn place in Africa were blocking off both ends of a street and would gang rape the women who were trapped.
This was something they did back home and thought it was acceptable. I can't remember what it's called, but people were outraged and rightly so.
Their attorneys used the defense that they should not be punished for their behavior since raping women was seen as perfectly normal back home.
Blah, blah, bullshit, bullshit, etc., They were punished but not very harshly.

If you can't function or even understand what the rules of the new society, stay home.
This poor kid was brutally raped and the parents disown her?
Plus, the little bastards weren't even punished? Great!! Let's let them back out so they can ruin someone else's life!
Why not send them back home?

(I wrote this on my phone so excuse any errors. )