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Silvahalo
July 15th, 2009, 06:23 PM
I'm rather sure this was posted awhile back but for the life of me could not find it. Maybe it was posted in response to another thread?....feel free to merge it if this is the case. Not sure if an update was ever posted tho.

Just horrific for the mother to find her baby like this.....uuugh.

http://www.wgrz.com/genthumb/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/imagepool/images/07710195245_WGRZpitbull-mb.jpg

Lockport Police say DNA results show no human involvement in the sexual assault of a two year old boy (http://www.wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=49447) July 8th.

Jessica Weinstein: "So this proves that it really can happen?"

Chief Neil Merritt, Lockport Police: "I don't think that there's any doubt because there's a number of witnesses, because this occurred inside, then the dog ran out onto the porch."

The mother told Lockport Police that she left her two year old unattended for a short time and after hearing the baby scream, she ran to see what was wrong.

When she got in the room, she told Lockport Police the dog, named "Bear", had sodomized the toddler. The mother screamed, scaring the dog out of the house, but the dog was still attached to the baby.

One neighbor told 2 On Your Side, she heard the mother screaming "The dog is raping my baby." Neighbors ran to help, but only one man was able to get the dog and child apart.

Anastacio Castillo says "I tried to get the dog away from the baby, the dog was already inside the baby." When the baby was finally free, he was visibly sick. Castillo says the boy was vomiting and bleeding.

The baby was rushed to Women and Children's Hospital where the toddler underwent reconstructive surgery. Hospital officials are no longer verifying that he is a patient there.

Lockport Police say they continue to investigate how a pitbull sodomized a toddler. They are looking into calls that the dog may have been trained, but they don't know by whom.

"Some experts are saying that it's not possible for a dog to do that without being trained, and then we have experts that say it's very possible, that it could happen, the dog just being exposed to the scent of a female dog in heat," said Merritt.
[...]
The pitbull has been evaluated. According to officials at the Niagara County SPCA, the dog spent 24 hours with an animal behaviorist. Results of the evaluation will be turned over to police.

Since the attack, over 20 people have called the SPCA asking to adopt the pitbull. Chief Merritt says it'll likely be up to a judge to decide what happens to the dog after the investigation is complete.

"I know a court can order a dog destroyed if it's a danger to the public or it's exhibited harmful behavior," he said.
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Miranda Workman, behavior specialist at Purrfect Paws in Amherst says, "Most likely this is not a learned behavior. Dogs in tact, not spayed or neutered have a higher hormonal drive."

She urges parents to never, ever leave their children alone with a dog. You know seriously it would have never occurred to that my baby might be in danger of being raped by a dog. I guess so, its an animal, goes by instinct.....Christ just awful. Heal completely little one.

Little Pea
July 15th, 2009, 06:27 PM
That is horrifying, I never would have imagined such a thing could happen. I can barely wrap my mind around it.

Heal completely little one.

malq
July 15th, 2009, 06:27 PM
Holy cow, you can train a pitbull to be gay. Poor kid I hope he is too yound to remember that

Athena
July 15th, 2009, 06:28 PM
Jesus.

I guess I'm glad that I have a girl. She occasionally humps Mike's leg, but that's just funny.

Aslan
July 15th, 2009, 06:33 PM
Since the attack, over 20 people have called the SPCA asking to adopt the pitbull.

Wtf?

This is just...

Dakota Valkyrie
July 15th, 2009, 06:33 PM
Is it odd that my hand was stuck covering my mouth while I read this? Not sure if it was in horror or to prevent vomiting... or both.

dmax
July 15th, 2009, 06:38 PM
Since the attack, over 20 people have called the SPCA asking to adopt the pitbull.LOL Oh, yeah! Only 20, though?:love:

Persephonae
July 15th, 2009, 06:39 PM
whaaa. . .
I'm horrified

Silvahalo
July 15th, 2009, 06:58 PM
Yeah, plenty of people calling about the dog. I guess thinking there might be a abuse factor involved, I get that but how about a call to see how baby is doing? I'd sure like to know if there was any permanent damage to this little one.

I just can't get that awful visual out of my head......I need to go wash my brain now.

AngelFire
July 15th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Yeah, plenty of people calling about the dog. I guess thinking there might be a abuse factor involved, I get that but how about a call to see how baby is doing? I'd sure like to know if there was any permanent damage to this little one.

I just can't get that awful visual out of my head......I need to go wash my brain now.

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!!! You are so right on with all you said. I know there are lots of animal lovers, I am one of them, but have me choose between a child or an animal....Guess who I would choose?

**Applauding you**

Unamused Cat
July 15th, 2009, 11:03 PM
:puke: Personally, I would've shot the dog.

thehesbomb
July 15th, 2009, 11:06 PM
Is it odd that my hand was stuck covering my mouth while I read this? Not sure if it was in horror or to prevent vomiting... or both.

I did the same damn thing. Jesus.

sanityslipping
July 15th, 2009, 11:39 PM
*shudder* I've been on watch since I got my boys back to make sure they still love my daughter, and tolerate her, so far so good. One thing I was worried about, is that maybe one of them would try to hump her, to establish dominance or whatever. They've never humped us but do try with each other. Never in a million years did I think a dog could actually rape a baby. How absolutely horrifying to witness it happening to your own kid. And I know how difficult it can be to separate a dog in the act...

We had a beagle, Katie, and a stray we adopted, Fred. Well, Katie was another stray, and we'd had her for a few years already, and we thought she may have been fixed... but she went into heat, and well, Fred, did what came natural and being a stray he hadn't been taught any manners, but poor Katie, didn't want no part of short lil Fred, she had her eyes on our other dog, Rocky. She tried to run away, but Fred was already "engaged" so she was yelling, running around the yard, with Fred stuck to/in her, getting dragged behind her. My uncle caught the pair, and pulled them apart, but it wasn't an easy task as Fred was really stuck. The sound of a Beagle yelping like that is absolutely horrifying btw.

Redshoes
July 16th, 2009, 07:00 AM
noooooooooooooo

smallwonder4
July 16th, 2009, 07:15 AM
This happened about two years ago, and I'd not heard any update. This child should hopefully be healed completely and the dog in a new home. At the time of this incident, there was speculation that the dog had been coerced at other times to ________ people. I can't even come with a correct term, because people fuck and dogs mate, but what people and dogs do together is neither

I guess this is just another reason not to leave a child and (in tact pit bull) dog unsupervised. This could have been prevented.

I know this is awful to say, and I hope I'm never faced with the situation, but the man who pulled the baby off the dog's member probably did extra damage. The mechanism that ensures fertilization in dogs holds them inside the female. She can turn and run, and he'll be dragged behind her as long as they're still tied. Packing on ice, using a hose, etc are options, but pulling them apart is very dangerous.

Man am I glad to have all (spayed) females.:confused2:

Dakota Valkyrie
July 16th, 2009, 07:59 AM
...the dog had been coerced at other times to ____verb______ people. I can't even come with a correct term, because people fuck and dogs mate, but what people and dogs do together is neither
Cool! Thread version of MadLibs!

DarkPrincess
July 16th, 2009, 08:45 AM
This is horrible.... I need brain bleach now.

Peeperann
July 16th, 2009, 10:42 AM
:puke: Personally, I would've shot the dog.

Yep.


Lockport Police say they continue to investigate how a pitbull sodomized a toddler. They are looking into calls that the dog may have been trained, but they don't know by whom.


If someone actually trained that dog, they need to be shot too. Uggg, i'm gonna puke.

buggysmommy
July 16th, 2009, 12:04 PM
My fucking stomach is in a state of shock! Just fucking nasty man!

DamagedGoods
July 16th, 2009, 12:11 PM
I must apologize in advance for this....

after the horror & the confusion... came the thought, stated in an Aussie accent.

"A dingo raped my baby!"

totallytoddler
July 16th, 2009, 12:23 PM
Ok so either a) the dog was trained to take pants off, or b) the mother left the child unattended and NAKED with a pitbull????? I just do not get how this could have happened??? :confused2: What. The. Fuck.

And I agree the dog should be shot. I love dogs just as much as the next girl....but c'mon.

Editing to ask....even if the boy was wearing only a diaper...and the dog tore it off......wouldnt he have been screaming? How far away WAS the mother from her 2 yr old?? Did she not hear him? Again...What. The. Fuck.

Silvahalo
July 16th, 2009, 01:52 PM
I agree TT, same questions here. I guess some people do leave there kids running around butt nekid a lot, I mean I do for "air" time but not as a usual way of undress.

I would think the child would have been screaming bloody murder immediately scared shitless then in a lot of pain. Does seem odd. Its seem so surreal like a freakn' nightmare nothing that could actually happen.

totallytoddler
July 16th, 2009, 02:25 PM
OK..I cant stop wondering.....so was Doggie DNA found inside the toddler? Am I missing that part? Because if no human DNA was found, and no doggie DNA was found......and unless they trained Fido to put on a condom.....I think I want to call bullshit on this one.

Have they ruled out foreign object? And parents covering up...blaming the dog?
:confused2:

Death Bed
July 16th, 2009, 03:45 PM
Ya'll are grossing me out. I didn't think that was possible. Congratulations!

Nell
July 16th, 2009, 05:01 PM
Seriously, you guys are going to try and blame the mom? So, if the little boy was naked or learned how to remove his diaper, (as a lot of toddlers do) she somehow should have known this would happen? Are you serious??? And asking why she didn't hear him scream? Did you read the article?



The mother told Lockport Police that she left her two year old unattended for a short time and after hearing the baby scream, she ran to see what was wrong.

And questioning the DNA, suggesting she covered for a man? What the hell? There was DNA proof............


Lockport Police say DNA results show no human involvement in the sexual assault of a two year old boy July 8th.

Did you read that? No human involvement. Besides the fact that.....



One neighbor told 2 On Your Side, she heard the mother screaming "The dog is raping my baby." Neighbors ran to help, but only one man was able to get the dog and child apart.

Anastacio Castillo says "I tried to get the dog away from the baby, the dog was already inside the baby."

Neighbors witnessed this. So you think she let some man rape her kid, then got the dog to somehow get on the boy, run outside with him still attached, yell for the neighbors to help, and all just to cover her penis? Really?

Death Bed
July 16th, 2009, 05:09 PM
Nell the Bounty Hunter!

Dakota Valkyrie
July 16th, 2009, 05:45 PM
A two-year-old can get naked faster than any human on the face of the planet. Just this morning we had to redress my granddaughter in the lobby of the airport. (She had a major aversion to her shirt.)

MC30
July 16th, 2009, 06:36 PM
Personally, I would've shot the dog.
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me too!

Silvahalo
July 16th, 2009, 08:23 PM
Nope, not blaming the mother, just questioning the whole damn scenario, and yes 2 yr old's., as I have one are fast as flash gettn' nekid. Just trying to put all parts to this together as to see how the fuck this happened. Like I said, absolutely horrific for the mother to find her baby this way and that she didn't fathom her baby could be raped by a fuckn' dog.

Something this bizarre and brutal has to be questioned, at least I would think so as to prevent it from happening again, so yeah damn straight I will question as baby was rapped by a dog for christ sake. As I can see here the number one lesson is to NEVER leave a child unattended with a animal, in this case a dog or your worst unimaginable nightmare might come true.

For the record, the dog rapped the baby, I blame the dog even if it was just animal instinct.

smallwonder4
July 16th, 2009, 09:48 PM
Sorry, I'd blame mom the same way if the dog had mauled the child with his teeth. If you want to have dogs (let alone in tact pit bulls) and children, you have to take extra precautions. Btw that's a long slim snout on a pit bull, IMO. I love the breed, and I have 4 pits (2 full, 2 xs) and I don't discourage children from coming over, but I sure as shit NEVER leave kids alone with my dogs... not even with my therapy dog (who is also a pit x). Not with my full pit bull that fosters kittens. Not with the kittens she fosters. Kids and pets require supervision ESPECIALLY when they're in tact and especially when the pet is particularly powerful. I think that is common sense.

ETA: they'll probably never prove if the dog was taught this behavior or not since they've not come with any further details in the last two years. I think if it was really an instinct, it would be more prevalent.

Nell
July 16th, 2009, 09:55 PM
Sorry, I'd blame mom the same way if the dog had mauled the child with his teeth. If you want to have dogs (let alone in tact pit bulls) and children, you have to take extra precautions. Btw that's a long slim snout on a pit bull, IMO. I love the breed, and I have 4 pits (2 full, 2 xs) and I don't discourage children from coming over, but I sure as shit NEVER leave kids alone with my dogs... not even with my therapy dog (who is also a pit x). Not with my full pit bull that fosters kittens. Not with the kittens she fosters. Kids and pets require supervision ESPECIALLY when they're in tact and especially when the pet is particularly powerful. I think that is common sense.

ETA: they'll probably never prove if the dog was taught this behavior or not since they've not come with any further details in the last two years. I think if it was really an instinct, it would be more prevalent.


Reallly? You really blame the mom for this? I hope then, when you have kids, you never, not once, leave them alone with a dog for even a minute. Not one second. Cause this may happen to you and then people would say it was your fault.

I can see not leaving a kid with a dog you don't know the temperament of. I can see not leaving your dog alone with an infant, when you first get them home and don't know how they will react to a new baby. But after 2 years i would think i could trust my dog not to RAPE my child if i stepped out of the room for a minute. Normal people don't think about this shit.

This was a pet.

witzah
July 16th, 2009, 10:00 PM
local station WIVB cites the growing skepticism in this case & the apparent journalistic stretch used in the initial article to suggest the dog didnt do it.

for one the vet was apparently misquoted & then taken out of context

child had no bites & when pit bulls mate they latch onto their partners neneck with their mouth -

the mom has disappeared -

interesting developments to say the least. and while the initially posted article shows an update of 2 years ago, it seems this happened more recently (i may be wrong but will keep searching on my cell, going back and forth, and editing with new w info if i find and as my memory can hold!

www.stinkyjournalism.com (sounds incredible but they have cites & sources & if i werent on my cell i wouldve put those directly)

Edit: went back to same article and saw article dated July 13 was from 2007 . . . so the developments it posted werent the new revelations i thought they were.

interesting to rread the 6 pages of comments - a few of them say the mother wanted the dog immediately put down, and one in particular stated the word was the mom filmed local crack addicts performing sex acts on the dog. another made some reference to (or hypothesis) of the boy trying to mimic the mom's acts with the dog, yet another said something to the effect of the dog was in the midst of it with the mother when the boy accidentaally got in the middle?

no idea what happened - i do think the mother knows more than she says, though i dont know just how much more. perhaps she was in the midst of something naughty when it happened, who knows . . .

smallwonder4
July 16th, 2009, 10:02 PM
You've probably never fucked a dog either. It is in question whether or not this dog ever was encouraged or enticed towards a human sexually.

You saw where I edited my shit to say that they'd never prove whether the dog was trained to interact with humans on a sexual level and that this is the sort of thing that would be more prevalent if it was actually natural or instinctual.

Wish on me what you will. My pets are altered. There is no question they were never exposed to humans on a sexual level. They don't have access to the children that come through my home unattended.

Nell
July 16th, 2009, 10:03 PM
Wow. That was harsh for no reason. i didn't wish anything on you. I said this may happen to you and you are judging harshly someone who doesn't have your expertise in dogs.

And this is the second page of this thread. I didn't go back to the first page to see where you edited your post. My bad.

smallwonder4
July 16th, 2009, 10:04 PM
local station WIVB cites the growing skepticism in this case & the apparent journalistic stretch used in the initial article to suggest the dog didnt do it.

for one the vet was apparently misquoted & then taken out of context

child had no bites & when pit bulls mate they latch onto their partners neneck with their mouth -

the mom has disappeared -

interesting developments to say the least. and while the initially posted article shows an update of 2 years ago, it seems this happened more recently (i may be wrong but will keep searching on my cell, going back and forth, and editing with new w info if i find and as my memory can hold!

www.stinkyjournalism.com (sounds incredible but they have cites & sources & if i werent on my cell i wouldve put those directly)

I remember this case.... oddly enough it came up for discussion on a first date with my boyfriend, and we celebrated 2 years this month... for what it's worth.

penelopejo
July 16th, 2009, 10:06 PM
Even with the witnesses coming forward and saying they saw the dog latched onto the child? People still think it was a human who did it? wow, I guess witnessing a dog inside a child still seems like a human did it.

smallwonder4
July 16th, 2009, 10:12 PM
Wow. That was harsh for no reason. i didn't wish anything on you. I said this may happen to you and you are judging harshly someone who doesn't have your expertise in dogs.

And this is the second page of this thread. I didn't go back to the first page to see where you edited your post. My bad.
It's quoted in your post. It made sense to me you'd seen it. You groaned because you disagree? Ok.

Keeping an in tact male is somewhat different than keeping a pet. In tact animals have desires and instincts. The males smell a female in heat for miles. If you're not going to breed an animal on a natural schedule, it makes sense to remove the desires... especially if you want to leave it unattended with your naked baby.

I never said a human sicced the dog on the baby. I just never saw where it was disproven that the dog had ever been exposed to sexual contact with a human (not necessarily the victim in this horrific case.)

I also tried to state all this as my opinion.

Nell
July 16th, 2009, 10:15 PM
I never said a human sicced the dog on the baby. I just never saw where it was disproven that the dog had ever been exposed to sexual contact with a human (not necessarily the victim in this horrific case.)

I never said this either, so I don't know who you are fighting here. All I said is that most people that have pets, not breeders, not rescue ladies such as yourself, but normal people with PETS, may not envision this happening. So to blame the mom is wrong.

And I groaned you for the hostile way you responded, with the "dog fucking" comment and all. I was also just giving my opinion, and not being nasty to you at all.

smallwonder4
July 16th, 2009, 10:19 PM
I never said this either, so I don't know who you are fighting here. All I said is that most people that have pets, not breeders, not rescue ladies such as yourself, but normal people with PETS, may not envision this happening. So to blame the mom is wrong.

And I groaned you for the hostile way you responded, with the "dog fucking" comment and all. I was also just giving my opinion, and not being nasty to you at all.

I said you probably hadn't fucked a dog because that was part of the discussion against the dog's owner back when this came out... that the dog had been exposed to sex with humans and that was where he learned this behavior. It's cool, though. Clearly just a case of misperception. Good night.

eliz1bef
July 16th, 2009, 10:21 PM
I have never heard of someone being forcefully penetrated by a dog. I know people who have been aggressively tackled and humped by a dog, but I've never heard actual, non-consensual penetration. (It's so gross that I've heard of the consensual kind. Some things you just can't get out of your brain. Ever.) The whole situation seems so completely weird to me.

I really have to wonder if someone trained this dog to perform sexually. I know that dogs will sometimes hump young children as part of a pack order dominance thing, but actual intercourse? It just doesn't seem like standard behavior.

I will say that I could have lived my entire life without knowing about this story. Why do I click on these things? EEEEWWWWW.

Deja
July 16th, 2009, 10:21 PM
Even with the witnesses coming forward and saying they saw the dog latched onto the child? People still think it was a human who did it? wow, I guess witnessing a dog inside a child still seems like a human did it.

There are too many conflicting stories and too many discrepancies - were there several neighbors, or just the one? Did the dog drag the baby outside while the mother screamed for help? Or was it just one guy "walking home from the store" who heard the mother's screams and ran inside? According to that version, it was only the mom and the "rescuer" who saw the dog "raping" the child. And according to more conflicting stories - why were there no scratches or bites on the child being attached by a mating pitbull, OR the "rescuer" who was trying to pull said pitbull off the child?

Not convinced. Something stinks. And I'm not a fan of pitbulls AT ALL but I think this one took the rap for a human crime - whether DNA was detected or not. As you all know, lots of abuse happens to children without DNA evidence.

Death Bed
July 16th, 2009, 10:27 PM
Was the dog black?

penelopejo
July 16th, 2009, 10:40 PM
There are too many conflicting stories and too many discrepancies - were there several neighbors, or just the one? Did the dog drag the baby outside while the mother screamed for help? Or was it just one guy "walking home from the store" who heard the mother's screams and ran inside? According to that version, it was only the mom and the "rescuer" who saw the dog "raping" the child. And according to more conflicting stories - why were there no scratches or bites on the child being attached by a mating pitbull, OR the "rescuer" who was trying to pull said pitbull off the child?

Not convinced. Something stinks. And I'm not a fan of pitbulls AT ALL but I think this one took the rap for a human crime - whether DNA was detected or not. As you all know, lots of abuse happens to children without DNA evidence.

They would've found something in or on this child that indicated that this child was raped by a human. If she called 911 as stated because this child was raped, then there wouldn't have been enough time for the mother to clean off this child. They would've found something in her home to indicate something went down other than the dog raping the child

So, lets say, this child stripped itself of all clothing while mom was in the kitchen preparing dinner. And since you have known dogs to tackle and hump to show dominance, more than likely, this dog was doing the same (that is if he was not exposed to any human contact before) and the child thought the dog was playing till it was too late. a 2 year old is significantly smaller than a full grown pit bull male. There would more than likely be no scratches due to the fact that this child had no way of fighting off a possibly 85 pound dog.

The child was hospitalized. We all know that to be fact. If there are conflicting reports about how many witnesses there were, how are we to know if the child not having scratches on his body to also be true or untrue?

Deja
July 16th, 2009, 10:47 PM
Was the dog black?

DB, what is THAT supposed to mean?

eliz1bef
July 16th, 2009, 10:52 PM
So, I normally don't share stories on this site with my husband, because he's way more normal than me and isn't fascinated by the sick shit DD serves us daily (thanks!), but THIS story so totally confused me that I had to see what his take was. He said, "They were filming child-bestiality porn."

I was at once horrified and totally impressed.

Did anyone inspect the inside of the house? Was anyone else there?

Death Bed
July 16th, 2009, 10:53 PM
It's a racial profiling joke. Sorry. I thought it was funny.

DogMom
July 16th, 2009, 10:56 PM
So, lets say, this child stripped itself of all clothing while mom was in the kitchen preparing dinner. And since you have known dogs to tackle and hump to show dominance, more than likely, this dog was doing the same (that is if he was not exposed to any human contact before) and the child thought the dog was playing till it was too late. a 2 year old is significantly smaller than a full grown pit bull male. There would more than likely be no scratches due to the fact that this child had no way of fighting off a possibly 85 pound dog.

Sounds like this was the case. Intact dogs will hump virtually anything. Sometimes it is sexual, sometimes it is dominance, sometimes it is just habit. Sometimes playfull dogs get so over stimulated they hump.

I think someone just let the dog hump whatever he could and never thought to correct the behavior. Unfortunately, the dog decided to hump the child.

I also read the stinky journalism article.

Deja
July 16th, 2009, 10:58 PM
They would've found something in or on this child that indicated that this child was raped by a human. If she called 911 as stated because this child was raped, then there wouldn't have been enough time for the mother to clean off this child. They would've found something in her home to indicate something went down other than the dog raping the child

So, lets say, this child stripped itself of all clothing while mom was in the kitchen preparing dinner. And since you have known dogs to tackle and hump to show dominance, more than likely, this dog was doing the same (that is if he was not exposed to any human contact before) and the child thought the dog was playing till it was too late. a 2 year old is significantly smaller than a full grown pit bull male. There would more than likely be no scratches due to the fact that this child had no way of fighting off a possibly 85 pound dog.

The child was hospitalized. We all know that to be fact. If there are conflicting reports about how many witnesses there were, how are we to know if the child not having scratches on his body to also be true or untrue?

It didn't have to be a human body part that caused the rape, it could have been some foreign object that would not have left DNA, but still done the physical damage to the child. I heard the mother took the child's diaper off, and sent him to another room to get a new diaper...so Mom didn't say she was in the kitchen cooking dinner - she was mid-diaper change - according to one version of the story.

You mentioned the mom wouldn't have had time to clean up the child after a human assault - was there any human child DNA on the dog's genitals? I didn't hear anything about that either way.

And the scratches I was referring to weren't from a child fighting off the dog - it would be the male dog mounting his mate - the quotes I read from the SPCA in the 2007 news stories said a dog mounting his mate will dig his claws into the female...this child apparently had horrific injuries, but I didn't hear dog bites and scratches were among them.

penelopejo
July 16th, 2009, 11:05 PM
It didn't have to be a human body part that caused the rape, it could have been some foreign object that would not have left DNA, but still done the physical damage to the child. I heard the mother took the child's diaper off, and sent him to another room to get a new diaper...so Mom didn't say she was in the kitchen cooking dinner - she was mid-diaper change - according to one version of the story.

You mentioned the mom wouldn't have had time to clean up the child after a human assault - was there any human child DNA on the dog's genitals? I didn't hear anything about that either way.

And the scratches I was referring to weren't from a child fighting off the dog - it would be the male dog mounting his mate - the quotes I read from the SPCA in the 2007 news stories said a dog mounting his mate will dig his claws into the female...this child apparently had horrific injuries, but I didn't hear dog bites and scratches were among them.

and as I said earlier, as you pointed out, there were conflicting stories about how many witnesses that were actually there, how are we supposed to know that him not having scratches or bites to be true also. The mother was not allowing any information to be released, and they can't find her either. Hell, I wouldn't want the media to find me either if my child was raped by a pit bull. I'd go into hiding for real, and change our names too.

The stories you are referring to are just hearsay, we all don't know what happened, unless if we get our hands on a police report that says different, I'm still thinking the mom is, in my opinion, not at fault for what occurred to her child.

totallytoddler
July 16th, 2009, 11:08 PM
Well..Im thinking there should be scratches and cuts ALL over the child.....since he was dragged out of the house to outside attached to the dogs underside.....right??? Did he go through a doggie door..WITH the 2 yr old attached to him still? Or open the front door? Are we all picturing this?

I am not saying the dog didnt do anything to the child....but I am saying the Moms version is ridiculous.

I more so tend to believe if this happened at all...it might be more along the lines of the child beastiality porn thin gone bad.

And the Mom could have had all the time in the world to clean up whatever.....who says she immediatly called when "the incident" happened? And whoever this guy is.....friend or neighbor..we really dont know who he is either.
I do not think there is enough info to say 100% exactly WHAT happened...many things are not being released...this happened 2 years ago...Mother moved away...etc.
I am however finding everyones views interesting.

Deja
July 16th, 2009, 11:09 PM
So, I normally don't share stories on this site with my husband, because he's way more normal than me and isn't fascinated by the sick shit DD serves us daily (thanks!), but THIS story so totally confused me that I had to see what his take was. He said, "They were filming child-bestiality porn."

I was at once horrified and totally impressed.

Did anyone inspect the inside of the house? Was anyone else there?

Eliz1, that's a question I would like answered - who was there? But if they WERE doing that, why stop and call police? Unless someone heard screams, ran in and saw what was happening...THEN mom started screaming "the dog is raping my baby?"

That's a very scary, very disgusting theory....I would like to know if police looked into it then. I did hear that the mom vacated the premises a very short time after the incident...also a suspicious move.

If that's what happened, the poor baby and the poor dog are both victims...

Nell
July 16th, 2009, 11:10 PM
Ugh. I hope no horrific, too horrid too be true shit happens to me. Cause i may be thought to let my dog fuck my toddler if so.

malq
July 16th, 2009, 11:35 PM
While you guys are on the phone formulating your next response, I'll jump in.
It could go either way. Dogs will fuck anything and if has a hole it will go in. I don't see it as that unreasonable. It is possible there is some abuse going on there as far as filming, but it looks like human contact has been ruled out.
So to me it looks simple. The mom was not paying attention and had a naked kid and the horny pitbull found a hole. The part I am not buying it the dog dragging the baby around on its Johnson. I know the penis knots up but enough to drag a baby outside?
doesn't the anus stretch enough to let it pull out? It's my understanding Benwah balls and even yams go in and out no problem. Given its a baby and I have no experience with that I am speaking out my ass. Just does not add up locking in a human.

Deja
July 17th, 2009, 12:01 AM
While you guys are on the phone formulating your next response, I'll jump in.
It could go either way. Dogs will fuck anything and if has a hole it will go in. I don't see it as that unreasonable. It is possible there is some abuse going on there as far as filming, but it looks like human contact has been ruled out.
So to me it looks simple. The mom was not paying attention and had a naked kid and the horny pitbull found a hole. The part I am not buying it the dog dragging the baby around on its Johnson. I know the penis knots up but enough to drag a baby outside?
doesn't the anus stretch enough to let it pull out? It's my understanding Benwah balls and even yams go in and out no problem. Given its a baby and I have no experience with that I am speaking out my ass. Just does not add up locking in a human.

Malq, I agree that dogs will pretty much ATTEMPT to fuck anything....but just because a 2 year old boy has a "hole" doesn't mean it's receptive or easy to accept a pit bull's advances. I'm pretty sure I read the same stories you did, and I didn't hear that human contact was ruled out - I believe they said human DNA was not found - which concludes nothing, really. As far as dragging the baby outside, that does sound farfetched....and the actual "mating" process between male and female dogs, with the locking up shit....I don't buy it that it happened with a human toddler.

malq
July 17th, 2009, 12:49 AM
I get a rash when I think of a two year old as being receptive. I think the pitbull may have taken it.
here is a link which will change your life. lol actually it tells you what happens when a dog ties in you.
http://www.zoophile.net/howto-k9-sex-03.php no pics just a guide on how to do it. I guess it can be a reality to tie in a human. last paragraph about your lover outing you in public. Yikes

Deja
July 17th, 2009, 01:33 AM
I get a rash when I think of a two year old as being receptive. I think the pitbull may have taken it.
here is a link which will change your life. lol actually it tells you what happens when a dog ties in you.
http://www.zoophile.net/howto-k9-sex-03.php no pics just a guide on how to do it. I guess it can be a reality to tie in a human. last paragraph about your lover outing you in public. Yikes
Malq - I too get a rash when I think of a pitbull fucking a toddler. I didn't mean receptive as in welcoming, more like on the unwanted receiving end - no child would be "receptive" to that...nor do I think a 2 year old dog would do that to a toddler - why, because he was diaperless? Dogs find that hot? Like I said, I'm not a pitbull fan - but there are a lot of questions that need to be asked and answered. I pray the child will be ok - and I've never said this before - but I hope the dog's OK until they find out what really happened.

And as for your doggy sex link? Like I said, not a dog fan, so thanks, but no thanks! Don't need my life changed THAT much! But I appreciate the offer!

DamagedGoods
July 17th, 2009, 02:54 AM
I get a rash when I think of a two year old as being receptive. I think the pitbull may have taken it.
here is a link which will change your life. lol actually it tells you what happens when a dog ties in you.
http://www.zoophile.net/howto-k9-sex-03.php no pics just a guide on how to do it. I guess it can be a reality to tie in a human. last paragraph about your lover outing you in public. Yikes

LMAO Ah I luvs ya Malq, I believe you have just defeated my post on this thread for... hmm... political incorrectness?

smallwonder4
July 17th, 2009, 07:48 AM
Was the dog black?
hehe, he was brown. :crazy:

Death Bed
July 17th, 2009, 11:23 AM
I get a rash when I think of a two year old as being receptive. I think the pitbull may have taken it.
here is a link which will change your life. lol actually it tells you what happens when a dog ties in you.
http://www.zoophile.net/howto-k9-sex-03.php no pics just a guide on how to do it. I guess it can be a reality to tie in a human. last paragraph about your lover outing you in public. Yikes

Here is another guide (http://lovelyperversion.blogspot.com/2006/07/how-to-have-sex-with-dog.html). Oh my. Women are sick!


Women: Have you ever wished you could have-
* The HOTTEST, most pleasurable, oral and vaginal sex imaginable?
* Simple, PURE physical satisfaction with no strings attached?
* Sex without AIDS or pregnancy fears?
* The privacy of masturbation, but the satisfaction and stimulation of sex?
* A truly HOT, nasty sex experience to share with your significant other?

If you answered "yes" to any of these, then you should consider having sex with a DOG.

thehesbomb
July 17th, 2009, 11:57 AM
Women: Have you ever wished you could have-
* The HOTTEST, most pleasurable, oral and vaginal sex imaginable?
* Simple, PURE physical satisfaction with no strings attached?
* Sex without AIDS or pregnancy fears?
* The privacy of masturbation, but the satisfaction and stimulation of sex?
* A truly HOT, nasty sex experience to share with your significant other?

If you answered "yes" to any of these, then you should consider having sex with a DOG.

I actually answered "yes" to a couple of these and still came to the conclusion that dog fucking is not for me. Misleading fucking bastards...

Dakota Valkyrie
July 17th, 2009, 04:53 PM
Since they ran DNA tests that came back "non-human", it's a pretty safe bet that it was the dog. It's more likely the dog than a house plant snuck up and sodomized the child. Since inanitmate objects don't have DNA... that would be a dead giveaway to authorities that it wasn't the dog.

I doubt they caught the wrong non-human, as there was at least one witness beyond the mother. Does it matter if there were 1 or 20? No one of the 1-to-however-many said anything other than the dog did it.

I can see there being little markings on the child. The humping our 165lb Rott occasionally caught our daughter in (only one kid he did it too) was far more gentle than traditional mating. If the dog was a frequent humper, and the 2-year-old had encountered it before, it may not have seemed odd to him at first. He may have just squirmed about to get away as he usually did.

To say that all pits bite when mating is ludicrious. That's like saying all men moan and make funny faces while mating. Every animal, every situation, is different. It may be USUAL but that does not preclude the unusual.

Anything that's used as "evidence" that came from the comment sections of the articles is just rumor. I can go on there and say I have porno tape of the attack if I wanted, does not make it so.

This report from 2007 interviews a detective captain with the police:
YouTube - PIT BULL RAPE 2 YEAR OLD BOY
Here's a determined Pit going after a goat. No biting or agression.
YouTube - pit bull screwing goat
Just because I can't imagine it does not mean I disbelieve it when it happens.

DamagedGoods
July 17th, 2009, 05:21 PM
Thanks for the dog on goat porn DV!

Sister Iroz
July 17th, 2009, 05:22 PM
This is the most disgusting thing I have read yet. I feel if this dog was trained to do this, the person who trained the dog needs to be held accountable in a very harsh way. I hope the baby will heal from this both mentally & physically.

Spice4Life
July 17th, 2009, 08:36 PM
This is the most disgusting thing I have read yet. I hope the baby will heal from this both mentally & physically.

I completely agree S2BME! I think we should put this dog into a cell for a month with a few child molesters and just let them see what "an eye for an eye" is all about.

thebooblady
July 17th, 2009, 08:50 PM
Even with the witnesses coming forward and saying they saw the dog latched onto the child? People still think it was a human who did it? wow, I guess witnessing a dog inside a child still seems like a human did it.

I have to agree. I read through some of the comments asking how they know the dog did it and it was right in the article that witnesses saw this occur. All you had to do was read it....

smallwonder4
July 18th, 2009, 07:04 AM
I completely agree S2BME! I think we should put this dog into a cell for a month with a few child molesters and just let them see what "an eye for an eye" is all about.
I really think if this was an instinctual thing, it would have happened before and been rather prevalent. I believe he was shown this behavior on humans, and whoever trained this dog to have sex with humans is who should be skinned.

I can't believe that two years later there is still no update!

CrazyinLoveWithMyKids
September 29th, 2009, 07:14 PM
I know I am going to get flack for this, nut I feel sorry for the puppy..is is afterall only an animal and sex is is one of the few things animals do
I am sure he had no idea what he did was wrong, and he just looks so sad and scared..I hope he found a loving home..and I have a pit(who IS fixed) but I dont have any small children, but if did, I know I would not leave them alone with a large breed dog....

ImmortalOne
September 29th, 2009, 08:07 PM
My jaw utterly dropped at this, and all I could imagine is the toddler... Telling all about his "hurt"... like my Nezzy still does about her toe that was hurt almost 2 months ago!.... *sigh* Wow I didn't know this was possible.

Awhell
September 29th, 2009, 09:53 PM
I can't believe that I just now got around to reading this, but now that I did...ohmygodohmygodohmygod. I would have shot the fucking dog. Actually, if I had to actually see that, I think I would have shot myself.