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June 25th, 2009, 10:08 AM
I'm just a tad confused why there is no thread on Pickton, accused of murdering many prostitutes in Canada. He may stand trial for 6 death's.
June 25th, 2009, 10:09 AM
'Insensitive' coroner's staff rub more salt into victims' wounds
Family told murdered woman's remains would be returned by post
Anxiously awaiting a court decision today on the fate of convicted serial killer Robert Pickton, Britney Frey is hoping she will finally be able to lay to rest the remains of her mother, Marnie Frey.
Britney, who is only 16 but has been designated Marnie's next-of-kin for legal purposes, says she is angry that "the coroner's office told me they would put my mother's remains in the mail — there's no way I'd let them do that."
June 25th, 2009, 01:00 PM
I can't even begin to imagine what these families are going through...
The B.C. Court of Appeal will render its decision on the appeal by convicted serial killer Robert William Pickton on Thursday at 10:30 a.m. PT.
Pickton, a Port Coquitlam pig farmer, was found guilty of six counts of second-degree murder in December 2007 in the deaths of Sereena Abotsway, Mona Wilson, Andrea Joesbury, Georgina Papin, Marnie Frey and Brenda Wolfe.
He was sentenced two days later to life in prison with no chance of parole for 25 years. Both the Crown and the defence appealed the decision.
So a lot of the victim's families are hoping that the appeal is successful because he was only convicted of 6 of 26 murders so far and they would obviously like to see justice for their loved ones.
Seventeen-year old Britney Frey, the daughter of Marnie Frey, will be in Vancouver when the appeal court hands down its decision.
"I'm just nervous because I really don't want to go back to court — [I'm] disappointed, upset,” she said.
But families of the dead women whose cases have not yet been heard in court are hoping the appeal will be successful, even if that means going through years of legal proceedings.
"We would hate to see Pickton actually win his appeal, but we want him to —only because that is the only way we foresee the other 20 girls getting justice," said Lori-Ann Ellis, whose sister-in-law, Cara Ellis, is one of the alleged victims in the outstanding cases.
Cara Ellis was 25 when she was last seen in January 1997, police said.
Dianne Rock, a mother of five, was nearly 10 years older than Ellis when she vanished in October 2001 at age 34.
Her sister, Lilliane Beaudoin, said it's not easy pulling for Pickton's defence team, but she believes it's her only choice.
"This way, at least I have some kind of hope that there's going to be a second trial and that my sister's case will be in the second trial," Beaudoin said.
"It's sad to say. Usually, I would go for the Crown counsel but not in this case."
Beaudoin said while having the convictions tossed out would undoubtedly be difficult for the families of the six women involved, it might be equally difficult for the families of the 20 women left in limbo.
"We need the justice that they received," she said.
June 25th, 2009, 01:06 PM
Pickton was nabbed as part of an investigation into illegal firearms at the property owned by Pickton. Police later obtained a second court search order as part of the larger BC Missing Women Investigation. This was a result of some personal items belonging to a missing woman being found on his property.
Police would later comb every square inch of the pig farm property and others associated with Pickton in search of evidence. Forensic analysis conducted by specialists was very slow and methodical. Evidence of his crimes was hard to nail down as it is alleged that Pickton fed his victims to his pigs. It is also been uncovered that Pickton may have combined human flesh with ground pork from his farm, and later given out to friends and visitors to the farm.
June 25th, 2009, 02:12 PM
It is also been uncovered that Pickton may have combined human flesh with ground pork from his farm, and later given out to friends and visitors to the farm.
:puke: That is so fucking disgusting, and i really hope that no one ate that shit.
June 25th, 2009, 02:13 PM
B.C.'s Court of Appeal has upheld the conviction of Robert William Pickton on six counts of second-degree murder, but his case appears to be headed to the country's highest court.
Pickton, a former Port Coquitlam pig farmer, was found guilty in December 2007 of six counts of second-degree murder in connection with the deaths of six women from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside. He was sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for 25 years.
June 25th, 2009, 08:08 PM
:puke: That is so fucking disgusting, and i really hope that no one ate that shit.
Neighbors reported buying hogs from him. They aren't sure if they ate hogs that ate the humans.
August 5th, 2010, 07:38 PM
Pickton nearly caught before killing most of his victims
Serial killer Robert "Willie" Pickton was charged with attempting to murder one sex-trade worker who escaped from his Port Coquitlam farm after a bloody knife fight in 1997 that left both of them barely alive.
Despite the police investigation amidst a string of drug-addicted women vanishing from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside, the case against him was dropped and 20 more women would disappear over the next five years that he would eventually be charged with killing.
That's among a deluge of new revelations that are now being reported after the lifting of a publication ban following the Supreme Court of Canada's decision to uphold Pickton's conviction and life sentence on six counts of second-degree murder.
The identity of the woman who got away cannot be reported.
She testified at Pickton's preliminary hearing that she fought back after he attempted to handcuff her and, in the struggle, she grabbed a butcher knife off a table and slit his throat.
He wrestled back the knife and stabbed her a number of times, piercing her lung.
The woman got away and was picked up by a passing car.
The jury never heard about the incident because the trial judge ruled it had no direct bearing on the murders, although evidence at the trial did include one Crown witness who testified Pickton had indicated he used handcuffs to restrain women before strangling them.
Both the sex trade worker and Pickton ended up in Royal Columbian Hospital clinging to life after losing close to three litres of blood each.
A key found in Pickton's pocket was used to unlock the single handcuff still around the woman's wrist, the preliminary hearing was told.
Pickton's lawyers at the time claimed he was acting in self-defence and prosecutors decided the woman was an unreliable witness and there was little chance of conviction.
Police had seized clothing Pickton was wearing at the time. But they would not be tested for forensic evidence until years later – after his 2002 arrest in the missing women case – revealing DNA of two women who disappeared during the pre-1997 period.
All six of the women Pickton was ultimately convicted of killing – Sereena Abotsway (of Surrey), Mona Wilson, Andrea Joesbury, Brenda Wolfe, Georgina Papin and Marnie Frey – died after the 1997 incident and investigation.
Other details the jury was not permitted to hear included the discovery in Pickton's freezer of packaged ground meat containing traces of human DNA matching two of the missing women.
The jury ultimately convicted Pickton in 2007 of six counts of second-degree murder, rather than first-degree murder.
Prosecutors maintained throughout that Pickton acted alone but defence lawyers had sought to plant doubt among jurors that others might be responsible.
Bone fragments, blood and DNA were found in an extensive 20-month search of the farm, including human remains in buckets in freezers.
Although Pickton was originally charged with killing 27 women, one count involving an unidentified woman whose remains had been found in the Mission area was excluded and 20 additional counts were split off to be dealt with in a separate trial, if one proved necessary.
One reason for splitting the trial in that manner, according to media reports, is that defence lawyers only conceded six of the women were actually dead and had insisted the Crown would have to prove the remaining victims weren't alive somewhere else.
Prosecutors formally stayed the remaining 20 charges against Pickton Wednesday, saying nothing further would be gained by a new trial on those counts.
Pickton, 60, has already been sentenced to serve the maximum 25 years before he becomes eligible for parolehttp://www.bclocalnews.com/bc_north/northernsentinel/news/100043799.html
Theres a really good video at the link that shows the prostitutes that he was charged with murdering but not tried for the murders.
January 27th, 2012, 11:12 PM
RCMP apologizes for not catching Pickton earlier
The RCMP has issued an apology for not catching B.C. serial killer Robert Pickton earlier.
The top Mountie in British Columbia, Assistant Commissioner Craig Callens, said the force feels deep regret that they didn't do more to catch serial killer Robert Pickton sooner.
"On behalf of the RCMP, I would like to express to the families of the victims how very sorry we are for the loss of your loved ones, and I apologize that the RCMP did not do more.
"We look forward to receiving meaningful recommendations that we can apply as a whole to improve our policing services to communities in B.C. and to refine and improve how we investigate and solve complex major crimes."
The apology comes as the RCMP officers involved in the investigation prepare to testify at the Missing Women Inquiry underway in Vancouver.
Witnesses have told the inquiry they were rebuffed by police when they called to report that family members who frequented Vancouver's seedy Downtown Eastside were missing. http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/rcmp-apologizes-for-not-catching-pickton-earlier
December 16th, 2012, 06:17 PM
Robert Pickton inquiry report to be released
The closest thing Marilyn Renter has ever had to a trial for her step-daughter's death is the public inquiry into the failures that allowed a serial killer to target sex workers from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside.
Robert Pickton was charged with murdering Cindy Feliks, who vanished in 1997 and whose DNA was found five years later on the former pig farmer's sprawling property in nearby Port Coquitlam, B.C.
But once Pickton was convicted of killing six sex workers and sentenced to life in prison, prosecutors had little appetite for putting him back on trial for 20 additional murder charges involving Feliks and other women whose remains or DNA were found on the farm.
"For a lot of us, there have only been six girls that have actually had justice done to them," Renter said in an interview.
"We haven't had justice for our girls, and if it has to come in this forum, then so be it," she added, referring to the public inquiry.
On Monday, Renter will find out whether her long wait for justice has been answered as Commissioner Wally Oppal releases a 1,448-page report outlining why Pickton wasn't caught sooner and what should be done to prevent similar failures in the future.
For eight months, the inquiry heard from 80 witnesses, including current and former police officers, Crown prosecutors, sex workers, academics and the families of missing women.
In what became a familiar story, Renter testified that Feliks's younger sister tried, unsuccessfully, to report the disappearance to police in 1997 and again the following year. A formal missing person file wasn't opened until 2001.
Renter blames the delay on police attitudes toward women, sex workers and drug addicts. She hopes Oppal's report can find a way to change that.
The inquiry was called to examine why Vancouver police and the RCMP failed to catch Pickton before he was arrested in February 2002, despite evidence that surfaced years earlier linking him to the disappearance of Vancouver sex workers.
Oppal was also asked to look into Crown counsel's decision not to prosecute Pickton for attempted murder following a vicious attack on a sex worker in 1997. After that charge was stayed, 19 more women connected to Pickton's farm disappeared.
The inquiry heard that senior officers in Vancouver actively resisted considering the possibility that a serial killer was operating in their city, while RCMP investigators in Port Coquitlam were slow to seriously investigate Pickton.
Oppal said the problems that plagued those investigations must be fixed, because just as Pickton wasn't Canada's first serial killer, he won't be the last.
"Pickton isn't the sole problem — there will be other serial killers," Oppal said in an interview in advance of the report's release.
Bringing the community together, particularly the non-profit groups that work with sex workers in the Downtown Eastside, has perhaps been Oppal's largest challenge.
The provincial government's decision to deny legal funding for advocacy groups that had been granted standing at the inquiry prompted nearly all of them to boycott the process.
Several of those groups held a news conference last month denouncing Oppal's report and the entire inquiry, which they say was too narrowly focused on police and failed to give adequate voice to the vulnerable women it was set up to protect.
Oppal again pleaded for his critics to read his report with an open mind.
"I'm urging those people who have had differences with the inquiry to come forward and co-operate," he said.
"The violence against women and the tragedies that we have experienced in our communities are far more important than the individual differences about the process of the inquiry."
Unlike the advocacy groups, the families of missing and murdered women received government funding to hire lawyers at the inquiry, but they, too, have decried the process as deeply flawed.
One of their lawyers, Neil Chantler, said the inquiry didn't hear enough evidence about systemic problems within the police forces, including allegations of sexism and racism, to determine what really allowed Pickton to remain at large.
"The primary theme we're going to be looking for is some recognition that institutional prejudices were pervasive at the time," said Chantler, who along with lawyer Cameron Ward represented more than two dozen families.
"This commission shied away from those issues during the hearing process and chose to focus on other issues such as technical policing failures rather than the more social, systemic issues that might have been at play."
Vancouver police and the RCMP have each offered apologies, but with disclaimers attached.
Both forces admitted they didn't do enough to catch Pickton, while insisting their officers did the best they could with the information they had. They also spent considerable time blaming each other, with the RCMP accusing Vancouver police of failing to notice a serial killer was at work and the Vancouver police blaming the RCMP in Port Coquitlam for botching the investigation.
December 16th, 2012, 07:50 PM
god hes fugly
cant imagine that being the last thing I saw before I was killed
If I happen to get murdered please let it be by some hunky guy at least
then someone please shoot him between the eyes for me
December 16th, 2012, 07:56 PM
Robert Pickton: The Pig Farmer Killer
Why would he want to kill pig farmers?
December 16th, 2012, 07:57 PM
Why would he want to kill pig farmers?
lol thanks for at least making me laugh today
you wife got a good one!!
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