LaHeather Wilson left her baby in the car overnight

[Unamused Cat]

CEDAR HILL ― Child Protective Services will be placing two Cedar Hill brothers in foster care after their 7-month-old brother was found dead Wednesday morning. Police say the child was left in a car overnight.

The child's mother, LaHeather Wilson, has been charged with injury to a child and is now in jail. According to police, Wilson came home after picking her three boys up from daycare on Tuesday.

Police say she then parked her car in front of her house in the 1200 block of Brewer Road. She brought the three- and six-year-old boys inside, but police say she left the infant in his car seat.

When Wilson woke up Wednesday, she told police she went outside before 6 a.m. and found the boy. Police say she then ran to a neighbor, who tried to revive the infant without success.

"She was screaming my name, 'Ivery! Ivery! Come help me!' I'm very sad I couldn't help her. I couldn't help the baby. I wish I could have, but I couldn't," said Ivery Croson, Wilson's neighbor.

Croson called 911. He said Wilson was frantic. "She was concerned he wasn't breathing and wasn't sure what happened," he said. "She had been taking medication for her leg."

The child's father was not home Tuesday night and did not arrive home until Wednesday morning. The family hasn't had any past involvement with CPS.

According to reports, the child was left in the car for as long as 11 hours. The Dallas County Medical Examiner has not released a cause of death. :mad:

The official overnight low at DFW International Airport Tuesday night was 50. At Dallas Executive Airport, which is closest to the house, the low was recorded at 49.

http://cbs11tv.com/local/child.dead.car.2.967505.html

[Peeperann]

According to reports, the child was left in the car for as long as 11 hours.

11 freaking hours???? She left a 7 month old baby in the car for at least 11 hours??? My Samantha is only 7 months old!! This had to have been done on purpose!! No way could she have "forgotten" the baby all night!!

I'll give you a cause of death right now, the baby either froze or cooked!!

Fucking stupid Whore!!!

Rest with God sweet baby........ Sigh.

[Unamused Cat]

I don't see how she could forget she didn't bring baby Christian inside, or give him a bath, or feed him before being tucked into bed for the night. Eleven freaking hours... 7pm, until almost 6am!

[FlamingFox]

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http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/Cedar_Hill_Baby_Dies_in_Car

[Just my luck sucks]

Can hypothermia set in at 49 degrees? Perhaps something more happened here. Poor little guy--rest in peace baby boy.

[MadmamainNC]

LaHeather? OMG, the bitch had to have had an identity crisis. That's right up there with LaBetty or LaMaryJane

[lamexcore]

She must have just completely forgot like all the other wonderful mothers that leave their children in the car, and act totally shocked when they find them dead.

[Silvahalo]

No fucking way she forgot, nope, not buying it. You don't forget a baby for 11 hours. Not once you don't check on you baby??? liar. This woman killed her baby on purpose. Just maybe if she was drugged and high....still 11 hours.

This is about 4 hours from me. Central TX has been getting a lot of mixed weather. You can fry at one point then almost freeze the next day. Dallas definitely has colder nights than us, as we are more south central of Dallas. 11 hours is almost a half day. Even a day that hits high 70's almost 80's, and we have had those, this baby would easily faced 90 degree's inside the car. Couple that with dehydration, easy, this 7 month old baby would die...did die.

I'll never understand it. Never.

Rest in peace baby Christian, in the heavens...

http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s341/silvahalo68/Angels/blkbaby.jpg

[Misskittychaos]

First how could you "forget" a 7 month old? Now how could you with TWO OTHER CHILDREN there to say something to remind you of your child you left behind? At 3 and 6 years old you could try and tell me those boys didn't say something and I'd call you a liar. One or more likely BOTH had asked Mommy-dearest where the baby was. I call bullshit. Poor baby! I'll never understand the death by car, couch or violence these "parents" choose, so many people would love to love these children, to tuck them into a clean warm bed at night and read them a post bath, bedtime story but instead these children suffer at the hands of people like this winner here.

[seductress]

I'm wondering if the other kids said anything to mom about where the baby was. My kids ask all the time where the others are if they are not visable.

[MichaelJCheaney]

Who in the hell thinks its a good idea to name a kid after a store in the mall?

LaHeather Wilson= Wilsons Leather......

Just wondering....

[Silvahalo]

The child's mother, LaHeather Wilson, has been charged with injury to a child and is now in jail. According to police, Wilson came home after picking her three boys up from daycare on Tuesday.

Police say she then parked her car in front of her house in the 1200 block of Brewer Road. She brought the three- and six-year-old boys inside, but police say she left the infant in his car seat.

I was thinking about this one last night after I posted, so today, I checked the weather archives for Dallas...
A cold frontal passage on the 23rd allowed for a chilly start for the 24th [Tuesday] with a low of 39 degrees, It was sunny and 67 for the high.

I remember that cold front, didn't phase us much but for Dallas the temps did get down in the 30's, not freezing but damn cold. So if baby was picked up and "forgotten" out in the car around 6pm stayed there until discovered in the a.m. around 5am, one source says 7am, but the 11 hour makes more sense around 5am. That would make baby exposed to extreme cold temps overnight. Yep, that could kill a 7 month old.

I'm thinking IF mother really did forget, she left baby sleeping in the car, got other children feed in bed, she retires goes to sleep and if she was on meds like the neighbor mentioned, for her leg, she MIGHT have slept far longer with intentions on getting baby after she slept a several hours. Even if this was the case, she's an idiot, cruel and her neglect caused this babies death.

I'm still of the belief that she left baby there to sleep and purposely left him there as she went to bed. She probably didn't want to deal with a crying baby that night, maybe he was sick with a cold having been keeping her up and wanted to sleep. I could see even out of her sheer stupidity, she would think, baby would wake then cry himself back to sleep no harm done. No way you look at this it doesn't make sense to me.

She might have not intended to kill the baby but I believe she knowingly left the baby in the car and didn't think baby would die....'cause she's an idiot and cruel.

So sorry baby boy....you deserved better.

[Harley_Tech]

Croson called 911. He said Wilson was frantic. "She was concerned he wasn't breathing and wasn't sure what happened," he said. "She had been taking medication for her leg."

The child's father was not home Tuesday night and did not arrive home until Wednesday morning. The family hasn't had any past involvement with CPS.


What kind of medication had she been taking? Did it have any effect?

If the motive is to get rid of the annoyance of kids, then there are two more. IMO a woman that might harmed one kid, would harm them all, that is if you believe that was her motive.

Are the two other kids (3 and 6 years-old) raising nine kinds of hell and distracting her to a point that she did forget this child in the car seat?



Police arrested Wilson and charged her for injury to a child. Child Protective Services took custody of her other two children, ages 3 and 6 years old.
Police are still investigating the incident.

Did this fall into the category of, "a child is dead, someone has to go to jail" situations after a horrible accident? The charges so far are injury to a child. By most standards, that is a fairly weak charge when a child is dead. Could it be that the on scene investigators see this as an accident with a horrible outcome?

I pulled the address on Google Earth and the neighborhood is a very nice middle class neighborhood. The kids were at day care, so two things are known, she is not a full time care giver and she works a day job. Given the cost of daycare in this area, she is not working some menial job, so she is more than likely a somewhat responsible person.

Finding the child at 6am suggest her day starts pretty early, did she noticed the child missing from the home prior to that and in a search, find him in the car? There was no mention of her "finding the child as she left for work".

If the child was found at 6am and had been in the car as much as 11 hours, that means she didn't arrive home until 7pm. That suggest a very long day on Tuesday. Was there a trip to the grocery store in there to put her home so late in the day? Was she dealing with groceries, two young kids, and who knows what else when she arrived home?

After she got inside the home, was she dealing with two wild kids that drew her attention? She has to make a meal for the kids, maybe do some laundry, maybe a 100 other task that she has to get done, all distractions.

How many have had this thought before when caring for an infant "oh, he/she is sleeping and I don't want to wake her/him, I've got a lot going on right now and that is one less thing to deal with"?

Sorry, I can't jump on the "kill the bitch" bandwagon just yet.

Gimme more information.

R

[brokenandtwisted]

I'll give you a cause of death right now, the baby either froze or cooked!!

Now, now...we shouldn't rule out 'eaten by satanic door-opening garden gnomes' just yet.

I think the story is believable from her perspective, but even if I were drowsy, I wouldn't 'forget' my kid in a car. Well, maybe if he/she were a little punk and like 5 years old. :lollypop:

[Peeperann]

Are the two other kids (3 and 6 years-old) raising nine kinds of hell and distracting her to a point that she did forget this child in the car seat

Oh honestly, I raised six kids and would have noticed if one of mine were missing. And I never left any of them in a car for 2 minutes, let alone 11 hours!!

And mine raised all kinds of hell. That would be a pathetic excuse if she tries to use that one. She's a stupid bitch who left her 7 month old baby in car overnight and he died! She killed him end of story.

[Silvahalo]

How many have had this thought before when caring for an infant "oh, he/she is sleeping and I don't want to wake her/him, I've got a lot going on right now and that is one less thing to deal with"?

Sorry, I can't jump on the "kill the bitch" bandwagon just yet.

Gimme more information.

R
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Uuh, yeah, sure we all think that thought as we are so damn busy and don't want to disturb a sleeping baby. But never do you FORGET a baby for 11 hours over this scenario, like I said even with meds, 11 hours is a lot and with 2 other children to care for, no way in fuck she just forgot for the whole damn night....nope, she's a liar and and think she left baby on purpose, may have not intended baby to die but she was neglectful and cruel and that lead to babies death.

You don't have to jump on the wagon to see something ain't right here, I call BS on this all over the damn place.

I can't wait to know more on this one, I think I won't be surprised.

[Tazzzz]

Dude next next door who helped was a cop.

Wow, 11 hours, I bet her damn purse wasnt still in the car. LaHeather sure has allot of prople sticking up for her, but they offer not one shred of reason for the baby being left out side except to mention the pain pills. WHoopty dingy doo, even if the 2 older kids already had dinner, there not old enough to get dressed for bedtime. When was she planning to go back and get the infant when it was originially left in the car??? I dont know about every one else here but I tried like hell not to let my infant or toddler get to much sleep before bed time. If I ever wanted to get some sleep that night.

Also , this isn't just I forgot my kid in the car over night, its I forgot to feed him ( 2 times) , I forgot to change him ( 2 or 3 times) , I forgot to give him a bath. there is a ton of stuff she forgot to do. Even distracted by the 2 other kids it doesn't make any sense at all.



Wilson realized early Wednesday morning that she had left Christian in the car after returning from day care the previous evening, said Cedar Hill police spokesman Corky Brown. She found the child unresponsive in the car outside their home in the 1200 block of Brewer Drive, near East Belt Line Road.

Wilson asked a Dallas police officer who lives nearby to help her. The officer gave the child CPR, and someone called 911. Christian was pronounced dead at the scene.

Posted by DeWe

I don't understand how you can forget that your 7 month old is in the car. I heard that she was on pain meds because she has an injured knee. She was wearing a knee brace. Flimsy excuse. If you are that f***ed up then you do not need to be driving at all or taking care of your kids. In this instance I think she needs to be charged with murder.

Posted by Voice Of Reason

Just an FYI regarding baby daddy.
He is on parole. His parole is 15 years.
Pretty long time for parole.
Daddy must have been an over-achiever.

Posted by JustAGirl

I'm sure you will ALL be shocked to hear that this "great" mother has a rap sheet in Dallas County prior to yesterday's incident. Ohhh and look - she plead guilty to a DWI. Guess maybe it's not her fault after all.. blame it on the alcohol. What a loser

Posted by Tirya

The radio this morning said when she got home she took some medication for her leg (I think it was). If the meds were so powerful that they would make her able to not register that she was only putting 2 kids to bed instead of 3, then maybe she shouldn't have been trying to take care of them alone.

Posted by Gonna Kill Me a Reporter

I can tell you that the father, my co-worker was at work last night and that was the reason that he was not there. Now I cannot explain to you why this happened,

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/032609dnmetcardeath.6f7f2acc.html
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[Peeperann]

Tazzz, you are freaking awesome!!! :proud2:

[Silvahalo]

She should be left to sit in a car for 11 hours under the same conditions....strapped in the car, can't move, can do shit for herself, hungry, cold, her cries go unheeded. Give her a taste of what that baby went through. Still it wouldn't be the same, as she wouldn't die from the experience.

You suck woman, cruel and heartless.

[seductress]

Tazzz, you are freaking awesome!!! :proud2:

Yup Yup

[runecire]

How do you forget a baby...your baby?! WTF. I can't go an entire hour without thinking about my boys. I can't believe this was an accident. No way. No excuse.

[Kalehue]

A Cedar Hill woman told police she took prescription pain killers and drank chardonnay before she picked up her 7-month-old son from day care, left him in the car outside her home and then "blacked out" on her couch Tuesday night.

When Laheather Sacha Wilson, who has a history of alcohol-related violations, woke up and found her son unresponsive in her car Wednesday morning, she did not call 911. Instead, she called four other numbers over roughly 15 minutes before she frantically asked a Dallas police officer who lives next door for help.

The veteran officer determined almost immediately that Christian Micah Wilson was dead.

"The poor little fella didn't have a chance at life," the officer, Senior Cpl. Ivery Croson, said Thursday. "I really wish I could have helped her."

Wilson, 35, remained in the Dallas County Jail late Thursday on a charge of injury to a child-reckless, a second-degree felony. Her bail was set at $100,000. She declined a request to be interviewed.

According to public records, Wilson pleaded guilty in Dallas County to a 2007 charge of driving while intoxicated. She also was cited for public intoxication in Cedar Hill once in 2007 and again in 2008, according to records.

According to police documents, Wilson told police that she was prescribed the pain medication hydrocodone on Sunday for complications with her knee. She took one pill Tuesday morning before work and two more at about 4 p.m. before leaving work, she told police.

"[Wilson] said on her way home from work, she stopped at a gas station in the City of Duncanville and purchased an unknown amount of Sutter Home Chardonnay," the documents stated.

Wilson drank some of the chardonnay when she got home about 5:30 p.m., took one more pill and then left to pick up Christian and his two brothers, ages 3 and 6, from day care, according to the documents.

She told police that when she got home, she took Christian's diaper bag and went inside the house with her two other children. Christian was left strapped in his car seat inside the white Plymouth parked along the 1200 block of Brewer Drive, near East Belt Line Road.

Wilson told police "that after she finished her glass of chardonnay, she immediately had a sharp pain in her injured knee and sat down on the couch in the living room."

The next thing she remembered is waking up at 6:45 a.m. Wednesday and discovering that Christian was not in his playpen. So she checked the house and then went outside to her car, where she found her son unconscious and cold to the touch.

But Wilson did not immediately call 911.

Instead, she told police that she took Christian inside and took off his clothes to see whether he was breathing. She then searched for her cellphone but couldn't find it. So she went next door to Croson's house and asked to borrow his phone.

Croson said that Wilson looked as if something was wrong when she first came over but that she didn't mention anything about her son.

Wilson took Croson's phone to her house and dialed four different numbers in roughly 15 minutes before she went back to Croson's house. At that point, she seemed frantic, Croson said.

"My baby's not breathing! My baby's not breathing!" she said. "Can you help me?" Croson found Christian wearing a diaper and T-shirt and wrapped in a blanket on the couch. He checked for signs of life, called 911 and attempted CPR.

It was too late. Christian was pronounced dead at the scene.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/crime/stories/DN-chmom_27met.ART0.State.Edition1.4a6b025.html

[Nell]

WTF. She didn't call 911 for 15 minutes and asked to borrow a phone but didn't say shit about the baby? Oh, she knew she killed him and was calling everyone she knew in a panic, trying to figure out what to do. Heinous bitch.

[Harley_Tech]

Oh honestly, I raised six kids and would have noticed if one of mine were missing. And I never left any of them in a car for 2 minutes, let alone 11 hours!!

And mine raised all kinds of hell. That would be a pathetic excuse if she tries to use that one. She's a stupid bitch who left her 7 month old baby in car overnight and he died! She killed him end of story.

Funny how every thread becomes about your personal experience.

I know you're perfect Peep and have never made any sort of mistake, but the rest of us poor mortal souls do from time to time make mistakes, even ones that cause kids to die.

Fact is it happens often enough that some folks decided it was a good idea to create an educational web site http://www.kidsandcars.org and try to help prevent it from happening. NASA engineers decided it happens enough to design sensors to help prevent it.

I Thank them all for not being so short sighted as to think any time this happens the driver or parent must be at fault.

Spend some time reading.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/27/AR2009022701549.html?sid=ST2009030602446

http://www.kidsandcars.org/statistics/state_map.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5126a3.htm

http://www.kidsandcars.org/incidents/heat.html

http://www.kidsandcars.org try just clicking on the statistics and learn that 16% of all reported non crash accidents involving kids under 15 are
treatments for hyperthermia.

http://www.kidsandcars.org/incidents/heat/technology.html


R

[Marv]

How do you 'forget' how many children you have? She is a stupid cunt who drank herself into oblivion, helped along by pain meds, and left her infant son to die in her car. She couldn't be bothered with a cranky infant that night, so she just conveniently 'forgot' that she had another kid!


According to police documents, Wilson told police that she was prescribed the pain medication hydrocodone on Sunday for complications with her knee. She took one pill Tuesday morning before work and two more at about 4 p.m. before leaving work, she told police.
"[Wilson] said on her way home from work, she stopped at a gas station in the City of Duncanville and purchased an unknown amount of Sutter Home Chardonnay," the documents stated.

Wilson drank some of the chardonnay when she got home about 5:30 p.m., took one more pill and then left to pick up Christian and his two brothers, ages 3 and 6, from day care, according to the documents.

She knows she has to pick up her sons from day care, yet she still takes her pain meds and combines them with alcohol. She is just fucking lucky that she didnt wreck her car and kill all three of her sons!!!! This stupid, self-absorbed, selfish cunt killed her baby son. She picked him up from daycare and then left him alone, strapped into his carseat, for 11 fucking hours until he died. She desreves to be stoned to death!!!!!

That poor baby, crying for his mamma. Just left there to die because she had a poorly knee. Or maybe she thought she had enough boys and wanted to punish him for not being a girl.

Fucking bitch.

[Silvahalo]

A Cedar Hill woman told police she took prescription pain killers and drank chardonnay before she picked up her 7-month-old son from day care, left him in the car outside her home and then "blacked out" on her couch Tuesday night.

When Laheather Sacha Wilson, who has a history of alcohol-related violations, woke up and found her son unresponsive in her car Wednesday morning, she did not call 911. Instead, she called four other numbers over roughly 15 minutes before she frantically asked a Dallas police officer who lives next door for help.

None of us good mothers are perfect, far fucking from it, and we know that is not attainable, but we try, try and try. What makes us better than this bitch, and far, far less likely to have a child die under these circumstances, is the fact that a good mother wouldn't knowingly take perscription pain killers AND alcohol. She had a history of abuse violating drugs and alcohol so that gives her a history of irresponsibility. This wasn't a onetime, "OMG, I can't believe I did that, situation.

If she felt overwhelmed, as all good moms do from time to time, she should have called someone for help. Reading the circumstances, yeah, I can see how she passed out, and probably had no real intentions of leaving baby out to die, but she knowingly took the concoction. That makes her an irresponsible, pathetic excuse for a mother. She is guilty, guilty. Knowingly and willfully drank under the influence of drugs killed her baby. KILLED. There are no do overs. She has to live with that for the rest of her useless life not to mention explaining that one to her other two kids.

Rest in peace baby Christian Micah Wilson.

[Harley_Tech]

What makes us better than this bitch, and far, far less likely to have a child die under these circumstances, is the fact that a good mother wouldn't knowingly take perscription pain killers AND alcohol.


I really don't care if you ignore everything else I posted, just go read all five pages of this link http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/27/AR2009022701549.html?sid=ST2009030602446

The entire point is that before those details you quoted were available, you were very comfortable assigning the same level of guilt.

Truth be told, anyone that has that same What makes us better than this bitch attitude, is probably MORE likely to have it happen to them.

Do yourself and your kids a favor, read the link.

R

[Nell]

I read the link and I agreed with you until I saw that she had waited 15 minutes to call 911, and called 4 other numbers before that. Do you remember the Adrian Vladimir Womble-Kurtz story? Dad got into an argument with mom and forgot baby in car for a couple hours and he died? I am still friends with the mom Samantha on MySpace.

Accidents do happen, but this was no accident. She knew better than to mix wine with painkillers, and she knew when she woke up and saw him she was in deep shit. 11 hours. I have to think she either left him on purpose in the car to not listen to his yelling or she took way more pills than she admitted. That is why she is neglecful and fully at fault for this.

[Harley_Tech]

I read the link and I agreed with you until I saw that she had waited 15 minutes to call 911, and called 4 other numbers before that.

Are you sure you read that entire story? Did you miss the part where those two actions are VERY COMMON in these situations?

R

[Nell]

I know they are very common Harley, why would I lie to you about reading the link. She panicked, I get that. But I had a prescription drug problem at one time, bad enough to go to rehab twice and I am serious, 11 hours is way too long to not wake up once. Prescription meds wear off after about 4 hours. So either she was more drugged than she admits or she just didn't care enough to get the baby out of the car.

I am sure she didn't mean for him to die but he did due to her negligence. I never said she meant for him to die but you need to keep all your facilities about you when you are the sole caretaker for 3 kids. And panic cannott explain her not telling the cop next door that she needed help, at the very least.

[Silvahalo]

I really don't care if you ignore everything else I posted, just go read all five pages of this link http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/27/AR2009022701549.html?sid=ST2009030602446

The entire point is that before those details you quoted were available, you were very comfortable assigning the same level of guilt.

Truth be told, anyone that has that same What makes us better than this bitch attitude, is probably MORE likely to have it happen to them.

Do yourself and your kids a favor, read the link.

R

I didn't read the whole damn link 'cause I'm busy being a good mother and not an idiot, negligent one. I too have been on prescrip meds while I just gave birth and know what it takes out of you, but not once did I abuse drugs and alcohol and that is what this dim-wit, bitch did. Why don't you get your fuckn' shit together, I did say I thought she was guilty before this info came out because, given the information at hand it was very unlikely a "good" mother would forget a child in the damn car for such a great lenghth of time, without, a) intentionally wanting to b)being excessively negligent. I also said I posed two possible scenarios and I was very fair in expalining my reasoning behind my OPINION!

Don't you ever bring my kids or my ability or inability to parent my children into discussions of this matter...ever.... dumb fuck. I know you are talking out of your ass as to get a rise out of me. I will say as I see fit on what I read and if you don't like it, SUCK BALLS!!

[thebooblady]

We have people who post in this forum that openly admit to smoking pot and being drunk while in the presence of their children. Unless they live in an isolated area, I suspect they are smoking pot in the same home their children are in. I also suspect they do not lock themself in a room and have someone else doing 100% of the parenting. Maybe that isn't really relevant to this story, but I thought it was a good time to say neither behaviors are acceptable. I agree with Harley's comment that this could happen to people here.

[Harley_Tech]

I didn't read the whole damn link 'cause I'm busy being a good mother and not an idiot, negligent one.

Don't you ever bring my kids or my abitlityr or inability to parent my children into discussions of this matter...ever.... dumb fuck. I know you are talking out of your ass as to get a rise out of me. I will say as I see fit on what I read and if you don't like it, SUCK BALLS!!


oh, AND FUCK YOU HARLEY_TECH....just FUCK YOU!

Well now, that just proves you're IGNORANT. You are given a chance to learn something and possibly learn something about yourself and refuse.

That is IGNORANT.

R

Edit: ya know, I groaned you for being ignorant, but you really are not worth my groan, so I took it back.

[Silvahalo]

We have people who post in this forum that openly admit to smoking pot and being drunk while in the presence of their children. Unless they live in an isolated area, I suspect they are smoking pot in the same home their children are in. I also suspect they do not lock themself in a room and have someone else doing 100% of the parenting. Maybe that isn't really relevant to this story, but I thought it was a good time to say neither behaviors are acceptable. I agree with Harley's comment that this could happen to people here.

Obviously, we will have to agree to disagree....

Absolutely every single one of us is capable of doing something that could put our children in danger, hopefully unintentinally. We all have different ideas onwhat a good mother or parent makes. My personal belief is you do your very best, every fucking day. Yes, you make mistakes, and Lord knows I have my share of them but never once would I knowingly and with a conscious mind take prescrip drugs and alcohol while being responsible for my children. Nope, NEVER. That does not make me better than anyone else here, just makes me sure of what my best is and what I would not do. Surely what this mother did was not the best she could have done; but then again, maybe it was...so I pity her in that case. I'm no self-rightous bitch. I know that being a good mother takes a lot of work and self sacrifice. What I vehemiently disagree is having been given a snide remark and judgment made to my own personal parenting.

Truth be told, anyone that has that same What makes us better than this bitch attitude, is probably MORE likely to have it happen to them.

Do yourself and your kids a favor, read the link.

If you read my response, I think you will see I was fair in looking at this from several perspectives. Ultimately, lets not forget, a baby died a horrible death because of this "oops", on the mothers part. No doubt, this was not the best decision she made in caring for her children.
Had I been this stupid and did something like this, I'd be the first to condemn myself and throw the first stone....damn, straight, especially if it meant the death of my baby.

Rest in peace baby Christian Micah Wilson.

[jo_momma_82]

I'm sure she did accidentally forget her baby but, lets remember the circumstances here.... she was taking pain meds and boozin' it up before she even picked up her kids from daycare ! She drove with her children while intoxicated on alcohol and medication and that makes her neglectful in my eyes... she could have killed all of her children before she even made it home !

[Silvahalo]

Well now, that just proves you're IGNORANT. You are given a chance to learn something and possibly learn something about yourself and refuse.

That is IGNORANT.

R

Edit: ya know, I groaned you for being ignorant, but you really are not worth my groan, so I took it back.[/quote]
...EDIT....pfttf. what the fuck ever. It means nothing to me. I'm not here for a popularity contest.

No, it means, not everything you post is worth reading Harley_Tech...
However, I did go back and read as to see if any of what was said in that ariticle would change my opinon. And it didn't. Oh, and so you know, most of what I read there is not new information to me. I was familiar with the site kidsandcars.org at its infancy when I became proactive in helping stop these types of tragedies...you don't know me Harley so don't juge me. It makes YOU look ignorant.

What happened to Miles Harrison was a terrible tragedy. I do question ones priorities if they forget for 9 fucking hours that they left their most precious child in a sweltering car.
[quote]the facts are often the same: An otherwise loving and attentive parent one day gets busy, or distracted, or upset, or confused by a change in his or her daily routine, and just... forgets a child is in the car.
This happens far too often and I will at every moment question each case individually as for neglect, abuse or even murder. Even the law considers these cases as such and take into account midigating factors.

There may be no act of human failing that more fundamentally challenges our society's views about crime, punishment, justice and mercy. According to statistics compiled by a national childs' safety advocacy group, in about 40 percent of cases authorities examine the evidence, determine that the child's death was a terrible accident -- a mistake of memory that delivers a lifelong sentence of guilt far greater than any a judge or jury could mete out -- and file no charges. In the other 60 percent of the cases, parsing essentially identical facts and applying them to essentially identical laws, authorities decide that the negligence was so great and the injury so grievous that it must be called a felony, and it must be aggressively pursued.

I found it most interesting as the research says, it is important that we understand why these types of incidents happent to certain people and not to others. Well, I don't think it is as simple as this person is a better parent than the next...no not that easy. I think it is about priorities and what is kept formost on your mind as being the number one priority. That's my opinon as I am always engaging with my children constantly in the car, it would be impossible for me to forget my child is in the car....but that's me. I am a worry wart and anxious personallity so that is also something to figure in researching why some people could never do such a thing.

That's my .02, take it or leave it. In this case. Baby Christian was "forgotten" because of etreme negligence and irresponsibility, plain and simple. NOT because this mother was so damn busy she "forgot" for 11 fucking hours. Try sitting in a sweltering car for 1 hour much less, 11....it might put a new perspective on things.

[Harley_Tech]

What I vehemiently disagree is having been given a snide remark and judgment made to my own personal parenting.


I challenge you to cut and past here where any snide remark and judgment was made about your parenting.

What was commented on is the mind set that places one at a greater risk of falling victim to this type of accident as reported in the story I linked.

Had you taken the time to educate yourself and follow the information placed right in front of you, you might have recognized that.

Instead you chosen the path of willful ignorance.

Your fly off the handle response also indicates you are easily distracted and taken off your game. Again, a common factor in accidents where kids are left in cars.


willful ignorance


(idiomatic), also called vincible ignorance is a bad faith decision to avoid becoming informed about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions that such information might prompt. It may also be shown as for a person to have no clue in a decision but still goes ahead in their decision.


R

[Kalehue]

After she got inside the home, was she dealing with two wild kids that drew her attention? She has to make a meal for the kids, maybe do some laundry, maybe a 100 other task that she has to get done, all distractions.

I'm having a hard time believing that any decent mother would be so distracted that they would forget a 7-month old baby for 11 hours, even if not incapacitated by prescription medication and alcohol. If she was in so much pain that she need to chase her prescription medication with chardonnay, she should have ensured that her children were safe and secure FIRST.

I don't for a minute think it was intentional, but there's no question in my mind that she was negligent.

[Silvahalo]

I challenge you to cut and past here where any snide remark and judgment was made about your parenting.

What was commented on is the mind set that places one at a greater risk of falling victim to this type of accident as reported in the story I linked.
You think? I don't need you to spell it out to me, DF.

Had you taken the time to educate yourself and follow the information placed right in front of you, you might have recognized that.

Instead you chosen the path of willful ignorance....I read the article DF.

Your fly off the handle response also indicates you are easily distracted and taken off your game. Again, a common factor in accidents where kids are left in cars.

Your the ignorant one Harley, if you haven't noticed, I did read the fucking article and I'm no where near "off my game". The difference between you and I is that I end bullshit. I am not hear for fun and games, and to ooh and ahhh at tit's and ass, as my priority at this site. I care far more about the vicitms her and the circumstances involved than you will ever know. Just ask anyone here what they think about why I'm here. I think you might just be surprised with your answers....you know what, don't bother, 'cause again, I'm not here to be liked or popular.


willful ignorance PALEEEZ, POSTING THIS IS JUST ELEMENTARY BEHAVIOR....

(idiomatic), also called vincible ignorance is a bad faith decision to avoid becoming informed about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions that such information might prompt. It may also be shown as for a person to have no clue in a decision but still goes ahead in their decision.


R


Truth be told, anyone that has that same What makes us better than this bitch attitude, is probably MORE likely to have it happen to them.

Do yourself and your kids a favor, read the link.

Anyone= me, the person you responding too...yeah, I can read between the lines.
Do yourself and your kids a favor= implying that I need a clue for the sake of my kids well being.

I will no longer expend any more valuable time with your ludicruous assesments and comments about me or my opinons.
You Harley_Tech are not worth my time....it ends here.

Oh, and in the future, try defending someone actually worth defending.

[horsegirl]

Sounds to me like she had a Blackout caused by alcohol + painkillers. I have heard of people coming out of a Blackout in the middle of an interview, when driving, I could go on ad nauseum.

She must have been horrified, and the poor baby. A tragic accident and not murder in my eyes.

I know women who have done stupid and dangerous things around their children due to substance misuse, but address their problems seriously, stop drinking/using, get their lives back and become resposible members of society and even sometimes get their kids back.

I think she shouldn't be allowed to have her children until she properly addresses her problems and proves that she can be a responsible mother.

My honest opinion and I don't wish to be slaughtered for it. JMHO.:lollypop:

NELL PLEASE PM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sherrz]

Anyone= me, the person you responding too...yeah, I can read between the lines.
Do yourself and your kids a favor= implying that I need a clue for the sake of my kids well being.

I didn't see it as you saw it then Silva.. I saw it as him just saying, that these kind of accidents don't only happen to dysfunctional people. It could happen to anyone!

[Silvahalo]

I didn't see it as you saw it then Silva.. I saw it as him just saying, that these kind of accidents don't only happen to dysfunctional people. It could happen to anyone!

Not that it could happen to anyone, 'cause no way in damn Hell I'd do that, but the general reference is what I'm talking about, yeah, probably right on that. Got too worked up over something that wasn't really the point over this thread. All is good and under the bridge.

[Sister Iroz]

That's right up there with LaBetty or LaMaryJane

Yea, they are all fucking CUNTS! How do you forget about the most PRECIOUS loving creature/human god gave to you! There is no excuse in my BOOK none! They are VALUABLE cargo under the sun and should be your top priority they are your baby/child.

I don't understand why she didn't take her baby out of the car to begin with because her other 2 children were old enough to walk. Even if the baby was asleep she shouldn't be leaving the baby asleep in the car so why didn't she take the baby inside to begin with. Also, I wonder if the other two children asked her where the baby was because I can tell you my son would have asked where his sister was when she wasn't around.

[Peeperann]

Sometimes picking your battles means letting go of the need to engage in them

Just edited because the douche isn't worth my response. Reading my own sig tag. Not worth an infraction.

[Peeperann]

Anyone= me, the person you responding too...yeah, I can read between the lines.
Do yourself and your kids a favor= implying that I need a clue for the sake of my kids well being.

I will no longer expend any more valuable time with your ludicruous assesments and comments about me or my opinons.
You Harley_Tech are not worth my time....it ends here.

Oh, and in the future, try defending someone actually worth defending.

Yep, he's just going on ignore, he has no clue.


the facts are often the same: An otherwise loving and attentive parent one day gets busy, or distracted, or upset, or confused by a change in his or her daily routine, and just... forgets a child is in the car.

No loving and attentive parent could forget their their child. That's just a stupid quote.

[Unamused Cat]

According to police documents, Wilson told police that she was prescribed the pain medication hydrocodone on Sunday for complications with her knee. She took one pill Tuesday morning before work and two more at about 4 p.m. before leaving work, she told police.

"[Wilson] said on her way home from work, she stopped at a gas station in the City of Duncanville and purchased an unknown amount of Sutter Home Chardonnay," the documents stated.

Wilson drank some of the chardonnay when she got home about 5:30 p.m., took one more pill and then left to pick up Christian and his two brothers, ages 3 and 6, from day care, according to the documents.

Laheather Wilson took 2 pain pills at 4pm, before getting off work. She then took another pill at 5:30pm, along with only god knows how much wine. The whole bottle, no doubt. I'm surprised she even made it to the daycare, much less made it back home.

The dumb bitch should have picked her kids up on the way home. Only after feeding all three of her children, and having put them down for the night, should she have cast herself into oblivion with pills and a bottle of wine. Bah!

[Silvahalo]

Laheather Wilson took 2 pain pills at 4pm, before getting off work. She then took another pill at 5:30pm, along with only god knows how much wine. The whole bottle, no doubt. I'm surprised she even made it to the daycare, much less made it back home.

The dumb bitch should have picked her kids up on the way home. Only after feeding all three of her children, and having put them down for the night, should she have cast herself into oblivion with pills and a bottle of wine. Bah!

Couldn't agree with you more UC.

Had this mother simply brought the baby in the house immediately upon arrival, there would be no dead baby.

I'd much rather this mother booze it up with meds and pass out leaving her baby unattended all night, in the home, than do what she did.


O.K. I'm done. So sorry baby Christian.

[Lizard]

Wow. This thread wound up being actually quite interesting. I had to walk away from it for a while to think about it a bit before trying to post a reply.

First, Harley's initial post was a bit inflammatory and unnecessarily personal, but I did spend some time at the links he posted. I think most of us are in agreement that the circumstances surrounding the death of LaHeather's baby clearly suggest negligience on her part. However, the cases discussed in The Washington Post article are much less clear cut; they suggest that pretty much anyone could be subject to the conditions that lead to leaving a child alone in a car. To me, believing in a higher power and claiming that "I would never..." is nothing more than hubris. Is it statistically likely that any D'D member will leave his or her child alone in a car for an extended period of time? No. Is it statistically impossible? No. The whole point of The Washington Post article is that being a good parent doesn't exclude you from the distractions, worries, stressors, physical and mental changes associated with aging and health conditions, and so on that could conceivably (though unlikely) lead to a child being left in a car and, worst case scenario, dying from being left in the car. I know we have some damn awesome parents here, but I also am well aware that one statistically unlikely moment can lead to tragedy--and I suspect the rest of you are equally aware. No, I take that back. I know you are. Find any thread about someone who left their child with a trusted caregiver then abused that child, and you will see the outrage of parents who know that there are dangers everywhere. I guess the difference here is that the "danger" is the circumstances that can lead to an otherwise good parent "forgetting" a child.

I also had to laugh that thebooblady got a groan over her post. Are you fucking kidding me? She was merely stating the obvious. We come on here and excoriate people who don't do right by their children, but we have members known to be parents who freely post about being high or being drunk. I see the same thing when I review my Facebook posts. Any member who thinks that he or she can make such posts and not have others wonder--or talk!--about their capacity as a parent is delusional. Please, I mean this as a friendly reminder: if you don't want something about your life to be the subject of others' discussions, speculations, and, yes, judgments, then don't post it. Chances are, you are not the only member who is PMing your buddies about other D'D members.

Finally, a big thank you to everyone who was involved in the quite heated discussion. I hope you won't be offended when I say that I'm very proud that our members were able to put an end to what could have been a major fucking blow-up by choosing to step away. You reminded me of why I love this site and its members.

[Nell]

That was an accident and I removed it. i wanted to thank her for her point of view and I guess i have been out of thanks for over a day.

[flawed_existence]

I groaned you because I love you, Nell.

Until today, every groan I've given has been accidental. I just wanted to see what it felt like to intentionally groan someone.

I think I like it. I'll have to do it more often.


(I'll ungroan you if you want me to. LOL)

[flawed_existence]

Laheather Wilson took 2 pain pills at 4pm, before getting off work. She then took another pill at 5:30pm, along with only god knows how much wine. The whole bottle, no doubt. I'm surprised she even made it to the daycare, much less made it back home.

The dumb bitch should have picked her kids up on the way home. Only after feeding all three of her children, and having put them down for the night, should she have cast herself into oblivion with pills and a bottle of wine. Bah!


I RARELY disagree with UCat, and I'm not really in disagreeement now. But if you think about it, since Dad was at work, Mom shouldn't have been knocking herself out with drugs/alcohol. Being the only adult in the house, what would have happened to those children if there had been a fire or if one of them had a medical emergency? Three hydros and a bottle of wine might have kept Mom from hearing the children if they tried to wake her.

I live in chronic pain, therefore, I am prescribed SERIOUS painkillers. I don't even crash like that when I'm the only adult in the house and my youngest is 14 years old. He's still a kid. He might very well panic in an emergency situation. Hell, I don't know, but I'm afraid to take the chance. I make sure his brother or Dad are here. Or send him to Grandma's.

And as for forgetting a baby in the car: Not hardly. Don't people TALK to their children? Even if the baby fell asleep, I would have been checking him in the mirror. I've read the articles on the subject. I've read quite a bit of the raw research, as well. I simply do not understand how any parent can forget a child in a vehicle. I really believe it comes down to priorities. If you are so goddamned busy that you could possibly forget your child then you need to reevaluate your lifestyle. Because that child should be the center of your existence for the short time you are responsible for raising him to adulthood.

I also think we Demonite Mamas are harder on other Mamas than most folks. I am because I have SACRIFICED a great deal for my children's well being. I wanted them to have a childhood. Something I didn't have the luxury of, myself. Those sacrifices mean that I've been hard on myself to ensure I am doing the right thing for them. By god, if I can do it, so can every other Mama. And any woman who is too lazy or self centered to put her children before herself should keep her goddamned legs crossed and not have any.

[Death Bed]

That was an accident and I removed it.

You're not the first person it's happened to.

[Peeperann]

Finally, a big thank you to everyone who was involved in the quite heated discussion. I hope you won't be offended when I say that I'm very proud that our members were able to put an end to what could have been a major fucking blow-up by choosing to step away. You reminded me of why I love this site and its members.

I'm trying. It's hard I will admit. I put a whole huge post in but then thought about Dakota for some reason, and remembered her from a different thread asking me to be patient and be the better person, so I edited.

Damn Dakota, I don't usually listen to many people, so I must be learning something.

Oh but I do use my groans freely where warranted. I don't think i've really actually groaned very many people. A lot were given out a few weeks ago. In just one thread.

But the rest, totally warranted, so use em if you got em people!!

[Unamused Cat]

I RARELY disagree with UCat, and I'm not really in disagreeement now. But if you think about it, since Dad was at work, Mom shouldn't have been knocking herself out with drugs/alcohol. Being the only adult in the house, what would have happened to those children if there had been a fire or if one of them had a medical emergency? Three hydros and a bottle of wine might have kept Mom from hearing the children if they tried to wake her.

I was being sarcastic about her casting herself into oblivion, which is something I believe she does quite often, considering she already has three 'drinking' violations. Imagine how many times she didn't get caught.

[flawed_existence]

You are right (of course), UCat. I think I really intended to reference your post, I just didn't express it very well. It's clear that this mom has A LOT of issues with alcohol and drugs.

[Unamused Cat]

You are right (of course), UCat. I think I really intended to reference your post, I just didn't express it very well. It's clear that this mom has A LOT of issues with alcohol and drugs.

I forgot to add the rolls eyes smiley. Generally, most everything I say tends to be on the snarky side. I will try and convey it better next time.

On another note, I think all the Demon moms and grandmas here are pretty awesome. Dads too. :smile:

[lamexcore]

"How many have had this thought before when caring for an infant "oh, he/she is sleeping and I don't want to wake her/him, I've got a lot going on right now and that is one less thing to deal with"?



I'm sure a lot of us parents have THOUGHT this, that doesn't mean we are willing to put our child's life at stake simply because it might inconvenience what we have going on at the time. She knew the second she decided she wanted to down some wine and take some pills that she was putting her children's lives at stake when she still had to go pick them up from daycare. Why didn't she just carry the child in when she took the diaper bag? Or bring the child in first for that matter? Bottom line is she left her child in the car and got to fucked up to go get him. This is 100% her fault. I don't care how many things she had going on, or if her leg hurt, you put your children first in ANY situation.

[envyme7]

You know what Im so tired of seeing these negative post if you people are so religious and so godly why you posting such hate on a women that you don't even know you guys don't know half of the story this is a long time friend of mines who is anybody to judge her take a look at yourself before you pass judgement.None of guys know how it feels to lose a child and you don't even realize that is so much more to the story that cannot be discussed because her case is still open but I'm pretty sure she not gonna get the time that their trying to give her.take a look at CASEY ANTHONY DESERVES she is the real baby killer. when its a black women its so easy to condemn them but that white bitch got away with actually murdering her baby when everyones knows she killed her child.Even though she made this horrible mistake i know that she feels that if she could take it back she would

[envyme7]

first of all if she really left her baby in the car don't you think that maybe one of the older kids would let her know that the baby was still in the car like you have to really think she has really smart boys so i know that they would inform her like i said there is more to the story then what is being told.

[Nell]

Oh sorry. You will have to hold on for a moment. We already have an active defender in another thread we are focusing on.

Thank you for your patience.

[tmdgirl]

You know what Im so tired of seeing these negative post if you people are so religious and so godly why you posting such hate on a women that you don't even know you guys don't know half of the story this is a long time friend of mines who is anybody to judge her take a look at yourself before you pass judgement.None of guys know how it feels to lose a child and you don't even realize that is so much more to the story that cannot be discussed because her case is still open but I'm pretty sure she not gonna get the time that their trying to give her.take a look at CASEY ANTHONY DESERVES she is the real baby killer. when its a black women its so easy to condemn them but that white bitch got away with actually murdering her baby when everyones knows she killed her child.Even though she made this horrible mistake i know that she feels that if she could take it back she would

Really?? There are a number of members on here who have lost a child. Don't even go there. They do understand what it feels like, have lived through the pain of loss.

There are also many members here who advocate for abused children, neglected children, people who have been through and seen the horrors of what life can hold for them.

This person you call a friend, she took pain meds, she drank until she was not capable of taking care of her children...and as a result, her child died. I'm sorry for the loss suffered by her other children, the loss suffered by her family and friends...but I am not sorry for her. She did this herself, she should not ever be let to forget that her negligence resulted in the death of an innocent little child.

[ineedanap]

Way to dig up a thread that has been dead for nearly 3 years! You are WINNING!

This has nothing to do with religion or God or god. This has nothing to do with race. This has to do with a dead child, and if you'll poke around here a bit, you will see that.

Carry on.

[ineedanap]

first of all if she really left her baby in the car don't you think that maybe one of the older kids would let her know that the baby was still in the car like you have to really think she has really smart boys so i know that they would inform her like i said there is more to the story then what is being told.

Oh, kudos for throwing the 3 and 6 year olds under the bus defending your friend.

You are a special snowflake.

[Valasca]

Oh, awesome. ANOTHER tard defender. And this one can spell, too!
Well, time to go back and read this one. So many dead threads getting revived! And it's only February 3rd!

[Silvahalo]

Stick around. We're just getting started.

[HeatherHabilatory]

You know what Im so tired of seeing these negative post if you people are so religious and so godly why you posting such hate on a women that you don't even know you guys don't know half of the story this is a long time friend of mines who is anybody to judge her take a look at yourself before you pass judgement.None of guys know how it feels to lose a child and you don't even realize that is so much more to the story that cannot be discussed because her case is still open but I'm pretty sure she not gonna get the time that their trying to give her.take a look at CASEY ANTHONY DESERVES she is the real baby killer. when its a black women its so easy to condemn them but that white bitch got away with actually murdering her baby when everyones knows she killed her child.Even though she made this horrible mistake i know that she feels that if she could take it back she would



This has nothing to do with race.

Learn to use punctuation, for the love of all that is good and holy!

Your friend is a boozing, pill-popping baby-killer, too. She and Casey Anthony have tons in common! They could be BFFs!

[Valasca]

Godly? Pfft. This is called THE DEMON'S DEN at DREAMINDEMON.COM.
So yeah. Blah blah OCs and wine. Blah blah leg problem blah blah. NEGLECT! Pure and simple.
Go away.

[envyme7]

okay and it was a mistake which every human makes I don't care what no one says she doesn't deserve the treatment that she is getting she didn't purposely kill her child maybe she shouldn't have drank but that doesn't make her a bad person nore does it make her stupid you are so evil for saying what you said its all about forgiveness and at the end of the day you or the WHITE MANS LAW are not the ones to judge god is. who are you to even say she deserves anything when you don't even know this women

[Tundratot]

Oh, God!!! I so want to take out my red pen and fix all these godawful posts, but I don't have the time. Too bad.

envyme7 - Your points are lost in the welter of your problematic writing skills.

[Valasca]

Seems to me that the person who screams racism is usually racist themselves.

[TheMeaningOfItAll]

okay and it was a mistake which every human makes I don't care what no one says she doesn't deserve the treatment that she is getting she didn't purposely kill her child maybe she shouldn't have drank but that doesn't make her a bad person nore does it make her stupid you are so evil for saying what you said its all about forgiveness and at the end of the day you or the WHITE MANS LAW are not the ones to judge god is. who are you to even say she deserves anything when you don't even know this women
Are you really making this about race? I'm sure OJ would disagree with your opinion of "White Man's Law". People get away with murder/theft/abuse all the time. It happens every day. As for your judgmental god, I suggest you go pray to him because that's the only place around here that you'll find "forgiveness" of the blatant neglect that caused the death of a precious child. Side note: You are a shitty friend. I expect my friends to be honest with me. If I did what your friend is accused of doing, I would expect my friends to never forgive me. Ever. I would expect them to tell me what a fuck-up I was, not coddle me on some internet forum.

[HijabiGirl]

okay and it was a mistake which every human makes I don't care what no one says she doesn't deserve the treatment that she is getting she didn't purposely kill her child maybe she shouldn't have drank but that doesn't make her a bad person nore does it make her stupid you are so evil for saying what you said its all about forgiveness and at the end of the day you or the WHITE MANS LAW are not the ones to judge god is. who are you to even say she deserves anything when you don't even know this women

Yes, drinking and taking pain killers while having your children in your care is stupid. It is most likely the very definition of stupid in the general population's opinion. "White man's law" did not leave a child to die a slow and agonizing death, your "friend" did. And the law and courts are the one's to judge. Do you honestly think that neglecting a child to death should have no repercussions?

[kafka]

OK. There seriously needs to be a special icon for those threads that someone comes in to defend a suspect. It is amusing to watch the progression of comments and the attacks on the posters for having sinned casting the first stone, and only god can judge... Most of these stories end in convictions, by the by...

[Valasca]

And once again, i'll point at my signature line about what the bible says about judging.

[Cassy]

I really don't care if you ignore everything else I posted, just go read all five pages of this link http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/27/AR2009022701549.html?sid=ST2009030602446

The entire point is that before those details you quoted were available, you were very comfortable assigning the same level of guilt.

Truth be told, anyone that has that same What makes us better than this bitch attitude, is probably MORE likely to have it happen to them.

Do yourself and your kids a favor, read the link.

R

What's your point?

11 hours with 3 children, not once checked on, not supervised? This isn't a matter of being a perfect parent, pigeons wouldn't leave their young that long, unchecked.

[Cassy]

okay and it was a mistake which every human makes I don't care what no one says she doesn't deserve the treatment that she is getting she didn't purposely kill her child maybe she shouldn't have drank but that doesn't make her a bad person nore does it make her stupid you are so evil for saying what you said its all about forgiveness and at the end of the day you or the WHITE MANS LAW are not the ones to judge god is. who are you to even say she deserves anything when you don't even know this women

If you lock your keys in the car, that's a mistake. If you put pepper in the salt shaker, that's a mistake.

Taken drugs and drinking alcohol before DRIVING and picking up your children are on purposes. Sorry.

She has a track record of alcohol abuse, yet instead of working on her issues, seems to think having babies will make it all better.

If she was passed out, keep in mind a 6-year-old was left to care for a 3-year-old. Absolutely perfect recipe for raising yet another child with issues, who will already be predisposed to drinking them away.

She's not responsible. There were no "mistakes"...the pills didn't fall in her mouth, the wine didn't slip in through her ear.

[carolinablue]

Even my tree-hugging, Constitution-waving liberal self is getting sick and tired of racism being used as a fall-back defense for crimes that have no-fucking-thing to do with race. Does racism exist? Yeah, it does. Does this case have anything to do with race? Not just NO...HELL NO. I don't think she did this because she's black. I don't think the cops arrested her because she's black. She was arrested because she's an irresponsible woman whose baby died because she took narcotic painkillers and drank alcohol, then passed out. Selfish, irresponsible and just plain stupid.

[Valasca]

I don't think envyme7 will even be back. I mean, I hope not.
Envy her? Pfft. Nope. I don't envy stupidity.

[Silvahalo]

okay and it was a mistake which every human makes I don't care what no one says she doesn't deserve the treatment that she is getting she didn't purposely kill her child maybe she shouldn't have drank but that doesn't make her a bad person nore does it make her stupid you are so evil for saying what you said its all about forgiveness and at the end of the day you or the WHITE MANS LAW are not the ones to judge god is. who are you to even say she deserves anything when you don't even know this women
Only God can judge. Close enough. I'm satisfied. . . NEXT!

[TACO]

You know what Im so tired of seeing these negative post if you people are so religious and so godly why you posting such hate on a women that you don't even know you guys don't know half of the story this is a long time friend of mines who is anybody to judge her take a look at yourself before you pass judgement.None of guys know how it feels to lose a child and you don't even realize that is so much more to the story that cannot be discussed because her case is still open but I'm pretty sure she not gonna get the time that their trying to give her.take a look at CASEY ANTHONY DESERVES she is the real baby killer. when its a black women its so easy to condemn them but that white bitch got away with actually murdering her baby when everyones knows she killed her child.Even though she made this horrible mistake i know that she feels that if she could take it back she would
1.) There are many people on here that have different views on religion, so that argument does not work here.
2.) Unfortunately, yes I do know what it is like to lose a child. As men we grieve for our lost children.
3.) I am so sick & tired of the race card! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Get another argument besides this on!


first of all if she really left her baby in the car don't you think that maybe one of the older kids would let her know that the baby was still in the car like you have to really think she has really smart boys so i know that they would inform her like i said there is more to the story then what is being told.
1.) I agree with ineedanap
Oh, kudos for throwing the 3 and 6 year olds under the bus defending your friend.
F'in brilliant, you get a gold star for that defense.



okay and it was a mistake which every human makes I don't care what no one says she doesn't deserve the treatment that she is getting she didn't purposely kill her child maybe she shouldn't have drank but that doesn't make her a bad person nore does it make her stupid you are so evil for saying what you said its all about forgiveness and at the end of the day you or the WHITE MANS LAW are not the ones to judge god is. who are you to even say she deserves anything when you don't even know this women
To quote my friend Valasca
Godly? Pfft. This is called THE DEMON'S DEN at DREAMINDEMON.COM.

[sheevaa]

Damn Silvahalo, you pulled right BITCH earlier on this thread. I'm impressed!

Love that the bitch kills her kid, accidentally or not, and suddenly it's a race issue...um? Did a white cop force her to leave her child in the car for 11 hours? Maybe I missed that part.