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TheMorningStar
March 23rd, 2009, 06:08 PM
Victim:Timothy MacNeil
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Nathanial Gann
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Brae Hansen with her attorney
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Background
Nathaniel Gann and Brae Hansen, now 19 and 18, respectively, are accused in the death last July 19 of Timothy MacNeil, a 63-year-old criminal defense attorney.

Gann, the alleged gunman, could face the death penalty if convicted. His sister faces a penalty of up to life in prison without parole if found guilty because she was 17 at the time of the killing.

A trial date could be set on Feb. 7, when the siblings are scheduled to be arraigned in Superior Court.

Deputy District Attorney George Bennett told Judge Kerry Wells that Hansen told police the truth when she said she planned with her brother -- who lived in Arizona -- to kill their stepfather because she was angry with him.

"The bottom line is they set this man up," the prosecutor said. "They were waiting for him and left him virtually defenseless and blasted him."

Bennett called the defendants a couple of "cold-blooded murderers" who acted in a vicious way for no reason.

According to Hansen's original account, the intruder asked MacNeil for the combination to a safe, but he refused and she heard what sounded like a struggle, then a gunshot, and turned around to see the suspect shoot her stepfather again in the face, San Diego police Detective Maria Rivera testified.

Hansen told the detective that since her hands were tied, she used her tongue to call 911 and told the operator, "My dad's been shot. I think he's dead. I'm tied up," the detective testified Tuesday.

Before leaving, the suspect took a watch, ring and cell phone from Hansen, she told the detective.

After the first interview at police headquarters, Rivera said she took Hansen to her aunt and uncle's home in La Mesa.

Rick MacNeil, the victim's brother, and his wife told Rivera that the victim would have given any intruder the information they were seeking if he was being held at gunpoint.

Rivera said she talked to Hansen again at the urging of Rick and Bonnie MacNeil.

The detective said Hansen changed her story to say the suspect cut a zip tie from her wrist so she could pull down her stepfather's zipper, then retied her wrists after she performed the task.

Hansen then blurted out, "Nathan tied my wrists," Rivera testified. The girl then stopped herself and said she meant the suspect tied her hands, according to the detective.

Upon further questioning, Hansen told Rivera that she had a brother named Nathan who lived with his grandmother in Arizona. Hansen denied mentioning the name Nathan, then said she did say it but didn't mean her brother, Rivera said.

Gann's attorney, Ricardo Garcia, argued there was no physical evidence tying his client to the crime and there was no reason Gann would have left his home in Arizona to kill his stepfather in San Diego.

Garcia claimed Hansen was angry at MacNeil because he had chosen a new girlfriend over her and was trying to force her out of his life.

The attorney said Hansen lied to detectives when she implicated her brother in the slaying.

"If her mouth is moving, she's lying," Garcia told the judge.

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Update 12:14 p.m. March 23, 2009
Bennett told jurors that Hansen lived with MacNeil since she was a little girl and he treated her as if she were his biological daughter. He took her on trips all over the world, he said.

The day of the shooting, police found her with her hands tied behind her back and did not initially consider her a suspect, Bennett said.

“Up until that point in time, the evidence will show that Brae Hansen had been a good actress,” Bennett said.

Hansen, he said, had told police that a masked gunman killed MacNeil. But her story changed in subsequent interviews with a police detective, he said.

“She slipped. She used a name. She called the intruder 'Nate,' ” Bennett said.

Troy Britt, Hansen's defense attorney, conceded that Hansen plotted the killing with her brother, who at one point suggested hiring a hit man.

Britt said Hansen was an “immature 17-year-old” who made a bad decision. She had been mad at MacNeil and wanted him dead, he said. However, she had a change of heart and pleaded with Gann to stop the plan, the attorney said.

Britt told jurors the issue in whether Hansen is guilty or not guilty “is her withdrawal” from the plan.

“She made a horrible decision. I'm asking for a not-guilty verdict because she wanted to get out of it,” Britt said.

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TheMorningStar
March 24th, 2009, 10:41 PM
:bump:
I'm bumping this because this is one fucked up case.

1. They set him up.
2. They executed him.
3. Its not denied.
4. She is trying the "I changed my mind defense".
5. These are kids killing the people who raised them.
Anyone out there care besides SJ?
Murderous teens don't push anyone's buttons? :hello:

I guess I am wondering why nobody seems to care. Is it because the vic is a lawyer?

Kalehue
March 24th, 2009, 11:02 PM
:bump:
I'm bumping this because this is one fucked up case.

1. They set him up.
2. They executed him.
3. Its not denied.
4. She is trying the "I changed my mind defense".
5. These are kids killing the people who raised them.
Anyone out there care besides SJ?
Murderous teens don't push anyone's buttons? :hello:

I guess I am wondering why nobody seems to care. Is it because the vic is a lawyer?

No kidding. She was mad at the man who treated her like a biological daughter and wanted him dead....but changed her mind. What kind of defense is that supposed to be? Too bad they're not both eligible for the death penalty.

It's scary that there are people this cold-blooded and calculated out there.

Unamused Cat
April 17th, 2009, 09:53 PM
Update: Guilty

The teenager who plotted with her brother to kill their stepfather was found guilty of first-degree murder by a jury that announced its verdict Thursday.

Brae Hansen, 19, was also found guilty of a special-circumstance allegation of lying in wait in the slaying of her stepfather, Timothy MacNeil, who was killed in July 2007.

Once the verdict was read, Hansen bowed her head, cried, wiped her face and slightly shook her head. Boo fuckin hoo... you bitch!

A separate jury convicted Hansen's brother, Nathaniel Gann, 20, of first-degree murder Wednesday afternoon.

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Brae Hansen

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Nathaniel Gann says, "My sister has a magic cooter."

Peeperann
April 17th, 2009, 10:19 PM
Do we know what the sentences are going to be? DP i'm hoping but I doubt it.

Damn, was he abusive? Because I grew up with a brutally abusive step dad, but I still wouldn't have actually killed him. (although I must admit to wanting someone else to do it at times). But not really.

MadmamainNC
April 18th, 2009, 12:08 AM
There must have been some serious hatin' going on there between the step-kids and step-daddy contrary to all the sweetness and candy coating relatives do. Reason is, they both did it.
And unless what UC said about the magic cooter, my bet is their step-dad was no prize either.
Such a waste of 3 lives.
Sorry I missed this one MorningStar

Kalehue
April 18th, 2009, 12:21 AM
I read through all the articles I could find and was a little confused as to the motive, too. The mother commited suicide the year before, so I'm wondering if both the kids blamed him for her death? Hansen had a litany of reasons she wanted him dead. My feeling was more that she convinced her brother (who lived with their grandmother in Arizona) that she was molested by the stepfather, he cheated on their mother, and he didn't intervene when her mother abused her -- so he deserved to die. In reality, I think she just wanted the $$$.

I'm glad they were both convicted. Thanks for the update, UC.

Hansen said she was "really pissed off" at MacNeil and wanted him dead, in part because he had called her a "whore," Smith testified.

She said that after MacNeil used the bathroom, Gann asked him if he had ever cheated on his wife -- who committed suicide the year before -- or molested his stepdaughter and MacNeil denied both accusations, Smith testified

Hansen also told the detective that her stepfather wouldn't intervene when her mother was abusive toward her.

Smith testified that Hansen told him she gave Gann $1,700 and promised him 15 percent of any inheritance she received. Her stepfather owned several properties, she said.

DamagedGoods
July 14th, 2009, 06:23 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5020159n&tag=contentMain;contentBody

Excellent 48 hours special about this one.

I have to say, I do NOT trust the daughter. I doubt she was abused at all. The primary reasons are:

- She talks about his last moments in the same tone of voice you'd tell gossip. Not completely blank, not sad, not disbelieving, just.... like she's chatting.

- She watches until the very end, even listening as her step-dad begs for his life. Why did she keep watching after she was tied up herself? (Why was she tied up at all?) She describes to the detective how far the gun was from his head for the final shot, and about how his body twitched, how her brother fired one that just hit his cheek. How it sounded as though he was snoring as he died. If this were me, I would either have a giant fucking shitfit, or I would be telling it in a voice utterly devoid of tone and emotion.

- She uses "Like", and if not proof of guilt, is really really annoying.

- She sighs once while discussing the violent murder of a man she supposedly loved deeply despite all his "abuses" of her. It sounds more like a "Oh, shit I have to sound sad!" sigh than anything else, in fact the first real authentic display of sadness or regret is as she says; "I feel like we've screwed up my life"

- She says that she put the zipties onto her stepfather loosely hoping he'd escaped, but was "too afraid" to call 911 until after he was dead. Then she writes to her family that she KNEW they were going home to his murder, she didn't have to put him in that position in the first place, she could have avoided the whole fucking thing very easily.

- When asked if she was at all relieved at his death, she said "no" without a second thought. Perhaps I'm alone in this, but if it were my abuser my brother killed, I'd be at least an iota relieved.

- Despite her mother having committed suicide the previous year, when discussing her father's new girlfriend, her only problem with it seems to be that she has to share him.

- She talks about Tim the way most people talk about prized possessions, not someone that abused them, stolkhom syndrome or not.

- She talks about being mad at Tim as a motive more than anything else... which also doesn't seem ... natural.

- She says, "I've mourned him and grieved him. But only to a certain point, because I've been in here and I haven't had to live out in the world without him" which seems a tad self-serving to me.

- She talks excessively about her own troubles, how hard this has been on her, etc etc. Nothing about her step sister, who; even after finding out the truth, still felt for her. Cared for her. Nothing for her family or Tim's family.

"suicide" letter. (http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/hansen_letter.pdf)

PS I think she may be the first person EVER to look that much better in their mugshots than in every other picture they show of her.

Little Pea
July 14th, 2009, 12:37 PM
[QUOTE=Unamused Cat;207047]Update: Guilty



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Brae Hansen


Cry me a river you sorry excuse for a human being. I wonder if you ever shed a tear over the lives you have destroyed!

So many kids would give anything for a father who loved them, who traveled them all over the world. Your a pathetic waste of oxygen. Shame on you, Shame shame shame!