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Unamused Cat
March 3rd, 2009, 02:24 PM
The weapon used by a Wilmette man to kill his wife and her teenage son and then himself was a sawed-off “Civil War replica, black-powder, muzzle-loading” rifle, police in the north suburb said this morning.

The police said Richard C. Wiley, 54, had had an argument with his wife, Kathy Wiley-Motes, that prompted his shooting spree.

The North Regional Major Crimes Task Force Forensic Specialist Unit and Wilmette police investigate outside the house where the mother, son and husband were found slain Monday.

They said Wiley, who did time for murder in the death of his first wife, left behind “a written account” and, in it, “Richard Wiley indicated in the note that he would not go back to prison.”

The police are tracing the origin of the weapon, which deputy police chief Brian King said might have come from the son, Christopher, 17, who had an interest in the Civil War and reenactments of battles.

“Given Christopher’s interest in Civil War reenactment, we believe that the weapon may have had some relationship to that interest,” King said.

The police had found the bodies of Wiley, his wife and her son around 1:30 p.m. Monday in the First Presbyterian Church of Wilmette parsonage, 826 Greenleaf. Wiley-Motes was a church secretary.

King said it appears that Wiley-Motes and her son were killed sometime after 2:30 in the afternoon Saturday and that Richard Wiley killed himself sometime Sunday night.

“Mr. Wiley’s account suggests that Kathryn was killed during an argument, and Christopher was killed after that,” King said.

The police hadn’t gotten any prior complaints about domestice problems at the Wiley home, and King said Wiley-Motes had never reported her husband was violent toward her.

"There is nothing that would have predicted this level of violence in that home," King said. Umm... The fact that he viciously killed his first wife didn't set off any bells?

“Wiley-Motes was found in a second-floor bedroom with a gunshot wound to the head,” King said. “Christopher Motes was found in a second-floor bathroom with a gunshot wound to the head. Richard Wiley was found in a second-floor bedroom with an apparently self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.”

In 1987, Wiley was sentenced to 30 years in prison for fatally stabbing his wife Ruth, then 25 years old, according to a former prosecutor. Wiley unsuccessfully claimed insanity because of a rare mental disease called an “intermittent explosive disorder” and was convicted. Wiley served 15 years of the sentence and was released in 2000.

"She was fully aware of his background," the Rev. Sarah Sarchet Butter, pastor of First Presbyterian, said this morning. She said the couple met in church and were married about 10 years.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/1457591,wilmette-man-used-civil-war-replica-030309.article

Wiley's first crime, stabbing wife over and over with antique dagger: http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1457590,cst-nws-wside03w.article

moonlilly1981
March 3rd, 2009, 03:51 PM
okay im not the greatest in math but if he was released in 2000 and its only 2009 and they have been married ten years that means she met him while he was in jail and married him while he was in jail.

Wicked Doll
March 3rd, 2009, 04:53 PM
OK, so he killed his first wife and somebody married him anyway? Not smart.

Even sadder is that he would still be in jail if he had not only served HALF the time he was supposed to and his second wife and her son would still be alive.

Unamused Cat
March 3rd, 2009, 10:50 PM
okay im not the greatest in math but if he was released in 2000 and its only 2009 and they have been married ten years that means she met him while he was in jail and married him while he was in jail.

That's what I'm guessing. Of course we all know that finding a boyfriend/husband in prison is the way to go, especially if they've killed someone. You can get some real bargains there. *rolls eyes*

Unamused Cat
March 3rd, 2009, 10:54 PM
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg107/snarkyphotos/wileys.jpg
Wiley Family

Harley_Tech
March 3rd, 2009, 11:18 PM
okay im not the greatest in math but if he was released in 2000 and its only 2009 and they have been married ten years that means she met him while he was in jail and married him while he was in jail.


"She was fully aware of his background," the Rev. Sarah Sarchet Butter, pastor of First Presbyterian, said this morning. She said the couple met in church and were married about 10 years.

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Shroomer
March 3rd, 2009, 11:33 PM
“intermittent explosive disorder”

http://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/explosive.html

I thought this was bullshit since I had never heard of it before, sounds like bullshit. Definitely not an excuse to kill 3 people.

Nell
March 4th, 2009, 01:52 AM
He was really into antique weapons. That is weird.

LissaLou
March 4th, 2009, 02:13 AM
If people were either sentenced more harshly or actually served out their full sentences, there would be less hurt and dead people. Had he served his full sentence, he would not have been able to kill them.
Have to add, why in the fuck would would a woman with a child marry a man she knew had killed his previous wife? If you aren't preventing it, you're planning on it in my book.

Dakota Valkyrie
March 4th, 2009, 06:30 AM
http://i43.tinypic.com/iygdo2.jpg
Ruth Marabotti, maiden name, was 25 when she was
stabbed to death by her husband Richard Wiley in 1985.
Wiley, sentenced in 1987 to 30 years and paroled in Jan. 2000.
Former Cook County Assistant State's Atty. James Morici said of all the violent criminals he prosecuted in more than seven years, Wiley was the one who gave him chills.

"I remember that case vividly," Morici said in a Monday interview. "Oh, my God. ... Sometimes people have asked me over the years if there is anybody I was afraid would come after me. And the only one I could think of was Richard Wiley. I could picture him sitting in the penitentiary, biding his time."

In that case, he called police himself and when they arrived, he was "leaning over the victim, hugging her and crying, 'I'm sorry, I'm sorry,' " according to a 1987 Tribune account.

Wiley told a detective he was angry at her because he heard a comment about her staying out late, and believed she was having an affair. He told the detective he picked up a ceremonial knife and stabbed his wife several times--23 times, according to the autopsy.

The judge rejected the insanity claim. Intermittent explosive disorder, or IED, is defined as repeated, uncontrollable anger attacks that often become violent. Wiley was paroled in 2000 and discharged from supervision three years later.http://i44.tinypic.com/qs1ke1.jpg
A relative of Kathryn Wiley-Motes said that she knew about her husband's criminal history when they wed after his release from prison.

Pastor Sarah Butter, head of the First Presbyterian Church of Wilmette, said that members of the congregation knew of Wiley's criminal past, but "our faith community welcomed and loved him."

Even so, Butter several times over the years asked Motes-Wiley, who worked at the church, if she felt safe living with Wiley. The pastor would not say what prompted her questions.

Wiley, who met his wife at the church, was known as a friendly man with a good sense of humor, but one who "struggled with tremendous health complications."

He had been receiving mental health treatment and had several surgeries that caused him to live in pain, she said.http://i43.tinypic.com/6qyyiw.jpg
Christopher Motes, 17, in an undated photo of him
in his Civil War reenactment uniform
Autopsies showed that Wiley died of a gunshot wound in the mouth, Wiley-Motes died of a gunshot wound to the neck and Motes died of a gunshot to the face. Investigators found a muzzle-loading long gun they believe Motes used in Civil War reenactments next to Wiley's body.

It appeared that Wiley had sawed off the barrel. Motes had a valid Firearm Owner Identification Card, police said. Police said Wiley left two suicide notes -- one inside the front door directing the reader to call Wilmette police, and a second one upstairs that was 40 pages long.
[...]
Motes, a senior at New Trier Township High School, planned to study U.S. history when he enrolled in college this fall.

He had been accepted to Roanoke College in Virginia, but was waiting to hear from Washington and Lee University and Gettysburg College. He was a Civil War buff who participated in reenactments in Wisconsin, a teachers and advisers said.http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/03/man-shot-family-with-civil-war-replica-rifle.html

Ninja0980
March 4th, 2009, 12:16 PM
The only person I feel sorry for is Chris. The wife didn't deserve to die either but she put her son in danger with a man she knew had already killed before. And for what?! A penis? Sorry, but when I have kids, if I got divorced and wanted to remarry, it would not be to a woman who had stabbed her husband to death.

Shizz
March 4th, 2009, 12:36 PM
Parole sucks massive cock.

Dakota Valkyrie
March 4th, 2009, 12:53 PM
Parole sucks massive cock.
The alternative to parole is to let them out after serving their full time. Sounds good except then they have no supervision. At least with parole there is mandated rules and supervision.

I think they should have parole supervision for X(?) years after release... no matter how much time was served.

Shizz
March 4th, 2009, 01:26 PM
I hear ya DV;

Parole for convicted murderers sucks massive cock. Under no circumstances should they be set free.

DarkPrincess
March 4th, 2009, 01:31 PM
The alternative to parole is to let them out after serving their full time. Sounds good except then they have no supervision. At least with parole there is mandated rules and supervision.

I think they should have parole supervision for X(?) years after release... no matter how much time was served.

Except how many people disappear while on parole? They have too many people to keep track of.

Dakota Valkyrie
March 5th, 2009, 03:38 AM
Except how many people disappear while on parole? They have too many people to keep track of.
Agreed - but it is (in my opinion) a far better alternative than just letting them loose with no one to monitor them at all.

seductress
March 13th, 2009, 04:41 PM
Wilmette police on Thursday released a 43-page, handwritten journal by Richard Wiley, who also stabbed his first wife to death more than two decades ago.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=278826

Dakota Valkyrie
March 14th, 2009, 03:23 AM
From seductress' link;Wiley said he was upset that he'd had few visitors since breaking his ankle more than a year earlier.

Wiley also wrote that he'd killed the family's three cats, four birds, a parrot and a turtle.

"Our little loved ones could not be trusted to anyone else," he wrote.

uhhh... OK. ?