Alycia Nipp, 13, attacked and killed after taking shortcut

[Jaded]

Authorities on Sunday were searching for a person of interest after a 13-year-old girl was found dead in an overgrown field in the Hazel Dell area near her home.

According to the Clark County Sheriff's Office, Alycia D. Nipp was walking home from a Goodwill Store at 1600 N.E. 78th St. with a friend about 5 p.m. Saturday when she decided to take a shortcut through the field, located north of the store. Her friend did not feel comfortable going with her, and so Nipp went by herself, the sheriff's office said.

The girl never returned home, however, and her mother reported the disappearance about 1 a.m. Sunday, authorities said.

While deputies were at the home, the girl's stepfather was out looking for her. He discovered the girl's body about 2:30 a.m. in a wooded area in the field located about 200 yards east of Northeast 13th Avenue.

Investigators said Sunday they believe the 13-year-old Thomas Jefferson Middle School student was attacked in a part of the lot some distance from where her body was discovered.

An autopsy was performed Sunday but the results were not immediately available. Investigators did not describe her wounds other than to say she died of "homicidal violence."

Investigators said this appeared to be a random attack, a crime of opportunity.

Authorities said they were searching for a person of interest seen in the area around the time the girl disappeared.

The sheriff's office described the person as in his 20s or 30s, about 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighing roughly 180 pounds with short hair. He was wearing a brown baseball cap, a green fleece long-sleeved shirt, jeans, gray sneakers and a brown backpack and had a silver mountain bike.

The sheriff's office said he did not appear to be a transient.
http://www.katu.com/news/40057752.html

Who the fuck doesn't report their child missing until 1 in the a.m.?

[Dakota Valkyrie]

They may have thought she was hanging out with friends and lost track of time. Maybe they didn't even miss her until 6 or 7:00 or later. It probably took a few hours of being pissed at her for not being home when she was supposed to be. Then it would take time to call around and check on her friends. I personally would also have a bit of indecision with a young teen... wondering if she was truly missing or just being irresponsible. At least they didn't wait until the next morning, thinking she was sleeping over at a friend's house. Not that it would have made a difference if they did... or had called right away.

[nurseronda]

They may have thought she was hanging out with friends and lost track of time. Maybe they didn't even miss her until 6 or 7:00 or later. It probably took a few hours of being pissed at her for not being home when she was supposed to be. Then it would take time to call around and check on her friends. I personally would also have a bit of indecision with a young teen... wondering if she was truly missing or just being irresponsible. At least they didn't wait until the next morning, thinking she was sleeping over at a friend's house. Not that it would have made a difference if they did... or had called right away.You are right about this. I feel so bad for the parents, family and friends of this young teen. I hope they catch the idiot who did this and quickly, before the idiot finds a new victim.

[mjmsepm]

hmmm....i'm curious if it was afriend she was walking with or someone acting like a friend! when you are walking together why would you split up? It just doesnt sound right to me!I'm interested to see what the autposy say's!

[Peeperann]

Ummmm, ok maybe it's just me and my very over protective ways, but why was a 13 year old allowed to go walking to any store without an adult and why the hell didn't her own mother report her missing until 1am???

1am and she's 13???

I know I know, she's a teenager, but a very young one, but no way would I allow that!

[penelopejo]

Ummmm, ok maybe it's just me and my very over protective ways, but why was a 13 year old allowed to go walking to any store without an adult and why the hell didn't her own mother report her missing until 1am???

1am and she's 13???

I know I know, she's a teenager, but a very young one, but no way would I allow that!

I dunno peeper. I guess you are overprotective. I rode the public bus at the age of 13 and I turned out okay. They may have thought she was at a friends house due to the fact that she went with a friend. Maybe they waited and realized somethings not right and called said friends home and she wasn't there so then they called the cops. I can't really place any blame on the parents if she was supposed to be under the supervision of another set of parents(and that's what it sounds like to me). But we don't know all the info, just that she went to the store with a friend, and didn't make it back.

[Peeperann]

yeah, I understand they could have thought she was at a friends house. And yes, I am very over protective, but all of my children have made it to adulthood without being raped or murdered, so i'm fine with being overprotective!!

[Dakota Valkyrie]

yeah, I understand they could have thought she was at a friends house. And yes, I am very over protective, but all of my children have made it to adulthood without being raped or murdered, so i'm fine with being overprotective!!
My kids walked to school & back from age 6. To the store from age 8 and on. Of course, our town was only 700 folks then. (and 6 blocks wide) They got to play anywhere on our side of the highway until the 9:00 sirens went off. (we just had to know who they were with and aprox. plans) By the time we moved outside of town, they were 12 and rode bike to town all the time. When they walked, they took the path beside the rail road tracks. (Of course, we had all kinds of rules about calling when arriving and leaving and plans etc...) We were pretty loose, but did have a few rules that other parents never bothered with.

All of my children have made it to adulthood without being raped or murdered.

[Peeperann]

Yep, I understand that Dakota, I was allowed all over my neighborhood even after dark, all of my sisters and I were and we all made it too. But when I was pregnant with my first child, I read a story about a 2 year old named Sally Ann. It was the most horrifying thing i've read to this day.

I was instantly paranoid and over protective and will be till the day I die. I cannot change that no matter how hard I try. And really, I don't try very hard...

Edit for further thought: I did say paranoid, right? That's the point! LOL

[MISSanthropic]

I'm glad that worked out for you Peeper, because I would say most times being too overprotective can backfire.

[Nell]

All 13 year olds are different. That is a very weird age. I was mature enough that i babysat my younger siblings and neighbor kids, and walked to the mall by myself every saturday. My mom never worried about me at all.

But my own 13 year old? That girl freaks if I leave her in the car for more than a minute. I would never let her wander around town and if she wasn't home by 1am I would think the worst.

[Peeperann]

I'm glad that worked out for you Peeper, because I would say most times being too overprotective can backfire.

Yeah I know it can, and I know I was lucky. My kids got to do tons of stuff, I just made sure it was as safe as possible and was with them 90% of the time!

I'm not saying my way is right, but it was right for me and mine.

[PoongyPrincess]

hmmm....i'm curious if it was afriend she was walking with or someone acting like a friend! when you are walking together why would you split up? It just doesnt sound right to me!I'm interested to see what the autposy say's!

So you think the friend should have been killed, too, just to show her loyalty? (That was rhetorical, I know you don't actually think that.) A few years ago, I was 21 or 22 and was out with a good friend at a local bar. She was 3 years older than me. We left to go back to my car and when walking through the parking lot a total stranger pulled up in his car and offered us a ride. I told him no way, no how and backed away. I tried my best to get my friend to decline the ride, too, but she hated telling people no, and ended up getting in the car with this complete stranger. I cared about my friend but there was no way in hell I'd ever follow anyone into a stranger's car like that. Fortunately, the guy did what he said, he drove her up to my car and dropped her off. I walked through the lot to get to my car and met her. That happened 7 years ago and it's still one of the craziest things I've ever seen someone do. :dong:

[Unamused Cat]

An autopsy showed that a 13-year-old girl found dead in a field in Hazel Dell had been stabbed to death.

A Clark County sheriff's spokesman, Sgt. Scott Schanaker, said Monday it appears the body of Alycia D. Nipp had been dragged about 100 yards from where she was killed. He says her clothing was intact, and there was no obvious sign of sexual assault.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008775746_apwahazeldellhomicide1stldwritethru.htm l

[malq]

Look for a local 18-25 y/o white male who is a introverted loner and lives with parents. Parents are mid to upper class and have bought the kid everything, but gave him no love or self esteem. has a silver mountain bike. I would be surprised if he isn't caught today.
had to throw that prediction out there.

[Smore9564]

Man arrested in death of Vancouver girl

Monday, February 23 | 7:06 p.m.
THE COLUMBIAN
Here is a press release from the Clark County Sheriff's Office:

Today, February 23rd at approximately 18:30 hours, detectives from the Clark County Sheriff's Office Major Crimes Unit arrested Darrin Eugene Sanford (http://www.flashnews.net/images/news/3.bmp), a 30 year old Vancouver man, for the murder of Alicia Nipp.

Sanford is one of a number of transient sex offenders living in the Hazel Dell area. Detectives, working in conjunction with Department of Corrections developed information regarding Sanford's whereabouts on Saturday and Sunday. As Sanford is known to frequent an abandoned house in the vicinity of Alycia's murder patrol deputies familiar with the transients in the Hazel Dell area assisted detectives and Department of Corrections investigators in locating Sanford. Detective's contacted Sanford and determined enough information existed to bring Sanford to the Major Crimes Unit for an interview. Based on the results of this interview detectives determined probable cause existed to arrest Sanford for first degree murder of Alicia Nipp.

Sanford was booked into the Clark County Jail. He will go for his first court appearance tomorrow morning at 09:00 am.

Attached is a publicly accessible photo of Sanford from the Clark County Sheriff's Office Sex Offender Registration database. If anyone has information of Sanford's whereabouts between Saturday February 21st and Sunday February 22nd please call the Clark County Sheriff's Office Tip Line at 1-877-274-6311

http://www.columbian.com/article/20090223/NEWS02/702249967


This is in my neck of the woods. When... are they going to require convicted sex offenders to have an address? I'm so tired of these tragedies. Sorry, I tried to add his picture, but am not sure how.

[Unamused Cat]

I'm glad they caught him so quickly.

[Smore9564]

More details emerge in teen's death



Stab wounds killed girl, 13

Monday, February 23 | 5:42 p.m.
BY LAURA MCVICKER (LAURA.MCVICKER@COLUMBIAN.COM) AND ISOLDE RAFTERY (ISOLDE.RAFTERY@COLUMBIAN.COM), COLUMBIAN STAFF WRITERS
http://www.columbian.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=TC&Date=20090223&Category=NEWS02&ArtNo=902239995&Ref=AR&maxw=250&q=100&border=0
Photograph of Alycia Nipp (Courtesy of the family)

http://www.columbian.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=TC&Date=20090223&Category=NEWS02&ArtNo=902239995&Ref=V1&maxw=250&q=100&border=0
Alycia Nipp, second from left, takes part in a social event at Thomas Jefferson Middle school last year. (Yearbook photo)

http://www.columbian.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=TC&Date=20090223&Category=NEWS02&ArtNo=902239995&Ref=V2&maxw=250&q=100&border=0
Alycia Nipp.

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As family, friends and classmates mourned 13-year-old Alycia D. Nipp, sheriff’s investigators Monday released a few more details about her death.

Nipp was stabbed to death sometime after 5 p.m. Saturday, according to autopsy results released Monday by the Clark County Sheriff’s Office.
She had been stabbed repeatedly, according to the sheriff’s office.

The girl died in an open field north near her home. Blood at the scene indicates she was stabbed at a clearing and then dragged 100 yards west, perhaps to be hidden beneath a tree, according to Clark County Sheriff’s Sgt. Scott Schanaker. She was fully clothed.

On Monday detectives canvassed the neighborhood surrounding the field, which sits behind the Goodwill store north of 78th Street and east of Northeast 13th Avenue.

They were asking neighbors whether they’d hear anything out or the ordinary or seen anyone suspicious, Schanaker said.

No arrests have been made and a motive was unknown. So far, there’s no evidence of sexual assault, according to the Clark County medical examiner.

Schanaker couldn’t say whether investigators believe it to be a stranger homicide or if Nipp might have known her killer.

“We haven’t gotten to that point yet,” Schanaker said. “No motivation; no indication of anything” has been discovered yet.

Detectives were still searching Monday for a person of interest, who was seen sitting under a tree in that area before Nipp was killed. The person of interest is described as a white man, 20 to 30 years old, 5-feet-9 or 5-feet-10 inches tall, 180 to 200 pounds, with no facial hair and a short haircut.

Nipp was last seen at 5 p.m. Saturday. She was walking with a friend and decided to go into a field north of the Goodwill store. She lived nearby on Northeast 82nd Street and was apparently using the field as a shortcut home.

Schanaker said her mother, Maranda Hannah, called 911 about 1 a.m. Sunday to say Nipp was missing. Her stepfather, Jason Hannah, went searching and found the body about 2:30 a.m. Investigators don’t yet know what time she was attacked.

The field and surrounding area has been a hub for trouble. Abandoned homes nearby are often inhabited by homeless people, runaways or drug users, Schanaker said.
Schanaker suspects the field gets a lot of foot traffic from transients heading to the nearby Highway 99 commercial strip.

“Anytime you have a place with abandoned houses and places for people to hide, you’re going to attract people who live on the street,” he said.

In November 2004, two youths found the decomposed body of a deceased middle-aged woman in the field. And in December 2006, a homeless man was hit and killed by a car as he crossed Northeast 78th Street near the site.

The property owners are listed as John and Carol Lifflander of Ridgefield. Attempts to reach the Lifflanders Monday were unsuccessful.

[URL]http://www.columbian.com/article/20090223/NEWS02/902239995 (javascript:artNextPhoto();)

I notice they are spelling her name two different ways. Not sure which is correct.

[Smore9564]

I'm glad too.. at first I thought.. You know.. transients dont usually just stab 13 year old girls to death. then when it came out that he is actually a homeless sex offender.. I thought hmmmmmmmmm.. It was REALLY fast.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

http://i43.tinypic.com/1ph4yq.jpg
Sanford is a registered sex offender convicted of approaching children in 1997 between the ages of 8 and 11 outside Harney Elementary in Vancouver and offering them money to come to his house for sex, according to public records. Sheriff's deputies said he is a transient and has been seen at an abandoned house near where Nipp was slain.
[...]
The teenager and her best friend were walking home Saturday afternoon when they came to the field that many in their Hazel Dell neighborhood used as a shortcut.

The overgrown acreage, which spanned several blocks, bordered abandoned homes and was a hangout for transients. It was off-limits to Nipp, her family said. But that day, the 13-year-old told her friend she wanted to take the shortcut.

The friend did not want to, according to Nipp's family. So Nipp, whose nickname was "Lici," proceeded alone. Several hours later, the seventh-grader was found stabbed to death.
[...]
Nipp died of stab wounds, according to the medical examiner's office. She was killed in an area partially blocked off with orange construction fencing and which backed up against a two-story dirt berm from excavation work. Her body was dragged about 100 yards to another location and left in an exposed area next to a heavily wooded section. Her clothing was intact.
[...]
The field was popular as a shortcut, said Nick Holden, a resident whose daughter was friends with Nipp.

"It's a kid highway," he said. "You ask the kids to not go alone," but the area was never viewed as being unsafe.
[...]http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/02/dead_vancouver_girl_died_tryin.html

[Ninja0980]

This case to me is another reason why I have a problem with so many sex offender laws. It's not about feeling sorry for sex offenders or not wanting to protect children (Though I believe most posters here know that), it's about being smart.
If we make it impossible for them to live anywhere, they become homeless like this guy and thus harder to track. It also makes them even more likely to reoffend. And finally, as horrifying as this case is, the fact remains more than 90% of children that are molested have it done to them by someone they know.
Personally, I'd like to ship them all off to an island somewhere. But that isn't a possiblity. I'd hope like cases like this will lead us to exam the laws that make it impossible for these guys to be anything but homeless and perhaps rework it a bit. Because in the end, that is what is going to make children safer.

[Jaded]

After the story broke and the news channels scrambled to the lot, one of them interviewed Sanford.


A FOX 12 reporter spoke with Sanford Monday afternoon prior to his arrest. At the time, he said detectives had questioned him about the case, but determined he wasn't a suspect.

“They just asked me a bunch of questions because of my criminal history and asked me if I’m doing everything I’m supposed to do,” Sanford said.

When asked if he thought it was strange that Nipp would walk alone through the vacant lot, Sanford replied, "A little bit. It would."

Police initially released information about a person of interest, who was later identified as Sanford. After interviewing him, detectives said they had enough evidence to arrest him in connection with the killing.

http://www.kptv.com/news/18771423/detail.html#-
Video at link.

Screen shot of Sander's registry page....
http://www.flashnews.net/images/news/3.bmp

[philly_phan]

This case to me is another reason why I have a problem with so many sex offender laws. It's not about feeling sorry for sex offenders or not wanting to protect children (Though I believe most posters here know that), it's about being smart.
If we make it impossible for them to live anywhere, they become homeless like this guy and thus harder to track. It also makes them even more likely to reoffend. And finally, as horrifying as this case is, the fact remains more than 90% of children that are molested have it done to them by someone they know.
Personally, I'd like to ship them all off to an island somewhere. But that isn't a possiblity. I'd hope like cases like this will lead us to exam the laws that make it impossible for these guys to be anything but homeless and perhaps rework it a bit. Because in the end, that is what is going to make children safer.

Ughhh, I don't even want to get STARTED on this thread, but my ONLY thought at this moment is this, after reading your comment: PART OF THE PROBLEM IS RAPISTS, CHILD MOLESTERS, SEX OFFENDERS IN GENERAL DO NOT SPEND ENOUGH TIME BEHIND BARS! We need to castrate these fuckers or put a huge, glowing, blinking neon sign on these mofo's to be able to spot them and keep our eyes on them! We should be able to shoot these people at will. We should be able to REFUSE them service and not rent them apartments. We should make life so fucking miserable for these fuckers that they will want to RUN AWAY REAL FAST to another country, island or living situation. I don't want them next door to me, my sister, down the block or next to the post office! There are children EVERYWHERE. Women. Men. Potential VICTIMS are everywhere for these fuckers. We need to condemn them to their own fucking island to rape and molest one another! FUCK THEM. Once they cross the line and touch kids or rape women, their rights should go right down w/ that victim's dignity and innocence...FUCK THEM! :thefinger:

On another note, I feel what you are saying, where you are coming from...doing the above and what I suggested only makes them go into hiding and harder to track. TRUE! But if we punish them more severely, for longer periods of time, if we make them as criminal as MURDERERS (b/c to me they are worse than murderers or same page - murder victims are gone, it's something so final and wrong. The family suffers, there are so many victims in those cases. But look at sex crime victims! They survive. They have to live daily w/ what happened to them! They have to live w/ that offense and most of the time their offenders do little or no time! Talk about fear?! There are no victimless crimes...and to me sex crimes are the worst.)

I would absolutely rather DIE than be raped. I know that may sound harsh to some people, but that's just how I feel. I remember freshman yr of college during orientation...they made us take this rape sensitivity seminar - all the freshman men & women, together, in groups. They had a rape survivor there, a victim's advocate, a state trooper, etc. They talked about drinking, drugs, date rape, where to park your car on a lot, blah blah blah. Here is this state trooper, a man (this is WV, btw), standing in front of all of us who were already uncomfortable and did not want to be there telling us: "Ladies, if someone attacks you, COMPLY. Do whatever he says, you have a better chance of surviving that way." I will never forget his voice or his face...and I looked at my roommate and said FUCK THAT. If someone attacks me, I am kicking, fighting, biting, grabbing nuts, screaming...I am doing ANY and EVERYthing to get OUT of that situation. If he kills me, oh well. I would rather DIE than get raped and have to live like that. Call me weak or whatever, that's just me.

Then again I do not have kids (yet?)...and if it were down to me or my kids or I had to protect someone I loved? I might just have to lay down and take that...I don't know. This is a touchy subject...

[philly_phan]

OMFG, my original point and comment - why did the girls split up? I was allowed to be at the pool and play tennis w/ my sister at 13! I was very independent. But we did NOTHING alone. I would not have split up from my friend and walked thru some woods alone. I don't care how SHORT the cut. Poor girl, didn't even have a chance w/ this sex offender freak out there roaming the streets...

[philly_phan]

What do we think of this contraption? Saw this on another site and it's labeled as a rape deterrent...OMFG @ introducing this concept to a 13 yr old! Shit, rapists assault 3 yr olds! Don't think this is practical or realistic, just thought I'd share it...

http://i42.tinypic.com/25ptttx.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2jbv2mw.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/m7h49.jpg

[Ninja0980]

[QUOTE=philly_phan;163445]Ughhh, I don't even want to get STARTED on this thread, but my ONLY thought at this moment is this, after reading your comment: PART OF THE PROBLEM IS RAPISTS, CHILD MOLESTERS, SEX OFFENDERS IN GENERAL DO NOT SPEND ENOUGH TIME BEHIND BARS! We need to castrate these fuckers or put a huge, glowing, blinking neon sign on these mofo's to be able to spot them and keep our eyes on them! We should be able to shoot these people at will. We should be able to REFUSE them service and not rent them apartments. We should make life so fucking miserable for these fuckers that they will want to RUN AWAY REAL FAST to another country, island or living situation. I don't want them next door to me, my sister, down the block or next to the post office! There are children EVERYWHERE. Women. Men. Potential VICTIMS are everywhere for these fuckers. We need to condemn them to their own fucking island to rape and molest one another! FUCK THEM. Once they cross the line and touch kids or rape women, their rights should go right down w/ that victim's dignity and innocence...FUCK THEM! :thefinger:

You're right in that regards. You get more time for getting caught with a certain amount of a drug than you do raping someone.

[Tazzzz]

The Fucking Tard is saying the girl giggled at him when he was trying to have sex with her. He got so pissed he killer her for it. I find that highly unlikely that a 13 year old being raped would giggle about it or even agree to have sex with this low life, pience of shit, tard. He probly tried to rape her and couldnt get it up so he became angry about that.



GPS corroborated WA sex offender's confession

VANCOUVER, Wash. -- A GPS tracking unit that a homeless sex offender is required to wear corroborates his story that he killed a 13-year-old girl in a Hazel Dell field, investigators said Tuesday.

According to a probable cause affidavit filed in Clark County Superior Court, Darrin Eugene Sanford was being monitored by the state Department of Corrections, and the GPS unit shows he was in the field when Alycia Nipp was killed Saturday night.

Detectives investigating the case identified Sanford, 30, based on descriptions provided by people who had seen him in the area. The affidavit says that when they questioned him, he confessed. He told detectives he met the girl near some vacant homes and walked with her into the field, where he tried to have sex with her.

"Sanford said that he wasn't able to complete the sexual act and after she 'giggled at him' that he was overcome with a violent rage," Detective Rick Buckner wrote in the affidavit.

The man didn't recall what he hit her with - a knife, stick or beer bottle. An autopsy determined she was stabbed to death.

Later that evening, Sanford moved the body to an area where the girl would be found, Buckner wrote.

Nipp was a seventh-grader at Thomas Jefferson Middle School in Vancouver, and was taking a shortcut across a vacant field in the Vancouver suburb Saturday night when she was accosted. She had been out walking the neighborhood with friends at the time.

Her mother reported her missing, and her stepfather found the body at about 2:30 a.m. Sunday.

Sanford, who is being held without bail for investigation of aggravated first-degree murder, made an initial court appearance Tuesday and was appointed an attorney. Senior Deputy Prosecutor John Fairgrieve said he expected to file a formal charge Thursday afternoon. His arraignment was set for March 11

Department of Corrections records show Sanford as a Level III sex offender - the category considered most likely to re-offend - and that he had been convicted in Clark County for communicating with a minor for immoral purposes.

Department spokesman Chad Lewis said Tuesday that Sanford had been on GPS monitoring because he did not have stable housing. Sanford also had been complying with requirements that he check in daily with his community corrections officer and pay court-ordered restitution, Lewis said.

He passed at least his last two drug tests and there was no indication he had tried to tamper with his GPS locator, at least not recently, Lewis said.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_wa_hazel_dell_homicide.html

[Morgana]

The REAL problem is LEVEL III SEX OFFENDERS SHOULDN'T BE IN THE FREE WORLD. THE FACT THAT WE HAVE LEVELS AND THEY ARE ALL OUT "FREE" IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM! It's usually someone you know...etc. etc., that is all bullshit. IT IS SOMEONE who is out there, being allowed to walk the fucking earth, that could and would do this. If he wasn't tracked and there was NO law tracking his whereabouts, do you believe he wouldn't rape and kill? No. Of course he would!!!! They don't get better, it is unhealable, the pedos will not change and they only grow more balls and more violent. WE NEED TO REMOVE THEM FROM SOCIETY. Period. Until then, no fucking law is enough. AND if that law SAVES JUST ONE, its fucking worth it!

[Morgana]

AND JUST TO CLARIFY MY "bullshit" regarding its usually people you know, I've been raped as a child by both family and strangers, the bottom fucking line is if an adult likes toddler ass, child ass, kids, etc. they will try to fuck them if they can get to them. They should all be shot on sight!

[Smore9564]

The news coverage tonight talked about the GPS and said it wasnt perfect.. ya think?? but hey.. after he killed the girl, they were able to go back and track his movements to prove he was there. I guess that makes everything good then? Whatever!

[Rhoni]

The most frightening part is that he KNEW he was being tracked, KNEW they could tell where he was or had been but the urge to rape was stronger than the fear of being caught.. Most likely to re-offend??!! Then why let him out?? What good is a tracking device if it won't even deter the pos offenders from committing another crime..The laws need to change period...

[Jaded]

I don't think the girl laughed at him to be mean...she was probably nervous or thought he was just joking, poor thing. I can't seem to get my mind off this one. He's going to be up front in the morning.

Edit:
He's up front....

http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/02/25/darrin-eugene-sanford-killed-alycia-nipp/

[Athena]

The news coverage tonight talked about the GPS and said it wasnt perfect.. ya think?? but hey.. after he killed the girl, they were able to go back and track his movements to prove he was there. I guess that makes everything good then? Whatever!

GPS wasn't institutued to prevent offenses. How could it? It was instituted for this exact purpose - to limit potential damage by making the offender easy to track for re-arrest.

We will never be able to keep our populace 100% safe. It can't be done. Even though this guy was a level 3 sex offender, they couldn't possibly justify giving him a life sentence for his initial crime... He didn't actually hurt anyone. And we can't lock people up for life just because we think they might do something worse in the future, under these circumstances.

This is an absolute tragedy, but I don't see how it could have been reasonably avoided. This man, who had never actually hurt anyone before (to our knowledge) was abiding by release conditions. This young girl ignored her parents and ignored her friend, thus putting herself in a dangerous position. This was a terrible crime of opportunity that couldn't have been reasonably anticipated.

[RockRGrl]

[QUOTE=philly_phan;163445]Ughhh, I don't even want to get STARTED on this thread, but my ONLY thought at this moment is this, after reading your comment: PART OF THE PROBLEM IS RAPISTS, CHILD MOLESTERS, SEX OFFENDERS IN GENERAL DO NOT SPEND ENOUGH TIME BEHIND BARS! We need to castrate these fuckers or put a huge, glowing, blinking neon sign on these mofo's to be able to spot them and keep our eyes on them! We should be able to shoot these people at will. We should be able to REFUSE them service and not rent them apartments. We should make life so fucking miserable for these fuckers that they will want to RUN AWAY REAL FAST to another country, island or living situation. I don't want them next door to me, my sister, down the block or next to the post office! There are children EVERYWHERE. Women. Men. Potential VICTIMS are everywhere for these fuckers. We need to condemn them to their own fucking island to rape and molest one another! FUCK THEM. Once they cross the line and touch kids or rape women, their rights should go right down w/ that victim's dignity and innocence...FUCK THEM! :thefinger:

I have to agree with Philly_Phan on this one. I do not have one ounce of sympathy for sex offenders and they should all be publicly humilated and made to live in "sex offender communities"..be it an island, mobile home park in the middle of fucking nowhere and with big neon signs at the entrance for all to see!
I'd like to see all Level III sex offenders locked up for life. They are the level most likely to reoffend so why give them the opportunity to reoffend?
I have a level III offender moving in to my neighborhood in a couple weeks. Fucker has spent the last 8 years in prison for forcibly raping a girl under the age of 13 (he was 20 at the time) and also an attemped rape.
My state is allowing him to move back to the same house he lived in with his parents because he has completed his sentence in full. The place where he committed his crimes is right across the fucking street at the local ballfield!
So everytime he looks out his front window he can re-live what he did, picture it happening because he is right fucking there! I think that'd fuck with his head too!
What I wanna know is why? Why can he move across the street from the ballpark? 2 blocks from an elementary school? A block from the public library? Because he did his time? Fuck that! That innocent girl gets a life sentence for having to remember what happened daily, he should too! It seems so absurd! I just can't wrap my mind around it.
All I can do is keep an extra close eye on my kids, but fuck, he shouldn't be out in the first place!
:mad25:

[Abroad]

The most frightening part is that he KNEW he was being tracked, KNEW they could tell where he was or had been but the urge to rape was stronger than the fear of being caught.. Most likely to re-offend??!! Then why let him out?? What good is a tracking device if it won't even deter the pos offenders from committing another crime..The laws need to change period...

I agree it is scary that knowing he was being tracked by GPS did not stop this offender from committing the crime; but that does not mean that it does not stop others, - and it did help them catch him quickly and it is going to make the case against him so much easier to prosecute......

On the whole, I would say the GPS serves a purpose. It isn't a chastity belt or a gaol, and Miss Nipp's parents are never going to feel grateful to it, - why should they? - but it is progress.

[Abroad]

We will never be able to keep our populace 100% safe. It can't be done. Even though this guy was a level 3 sex offender, they couldn't possibly justify giving him a life sentence for his initial crime... He didn't actually hurt anyone. And we can't lock people up for life just because we think they might do something worse in the future, under these circumstances.

This and all the comments in this thread referencing rape and murder made me read back to the offender's actual prior.... He was:


convicted of approaching children in 1997 between the ages of 8 and 11 outside Harney Elementary in Vancouver and offering them money to come to his house for sex

Much as we all disapprove of this, I hope we can also agree that locking him up and throwing away the key for that would be excessive? In fact, I am surprised they insisted on the GPS, but it seems that had something to do with him being of no fixed abode as well......

[RockRGrl]

I agree it is scary that knowing he was being tracked by GPS did not stop this offender from committing the crime; but that does not mean that it does not stop others, - and it did help them catch him quickly and it is going to make the case against him so much easier to prosecute......

On the whole, I would say the GPS serves a purpose. It isn't a chastity belt or a gaol, and Miss Nipp's parents are never going to feel grateful to it, - why should they? - but it is progress.

I do agree...it is a step in the right direction.

[Morgana]

This and all the comments in this thread referencing rape and murder made me read back to the offender's actual prior.... He was:



Much as we all disapprove of this, I hope we can also agree that locking him up and throwing away the key for that would be excessive? In fact, I am surprised they insisted on the GPS, but it seems that had something to do with him being of no fixed abode as well......

You hope we can all agree on what being excessive?!!
He tried to lure and fuck children as young as 3rd graders! Do you think he would like to fuck children any less now? Uh, noooooo..... Thus, his Level III status, most likely to RE-offend! It certainly wouldn't have been excessive to this guys victims! I say victims, because if you think this is his only crime...you're in wishful thinking land!

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Monday, detectives from the Clark County Sheriff’s Office served a search warrant at the home of Darrin Sanford’s mother, Shirley Newman.

In an interview with Newschannel 8, Newman said, "I want to hurt my son. I want to take his life so bad and make him feel what he did to this girl."

Newman provided Newschannel 8 with a copy of the search warrant and the inventory list of evidence taken from her property by police on Monday. “I knew in my heart. Something just told me he did it,” Newman said.

The inventory list had 31 items seized by investigators, including a brown, extra large hoodie with stains, black and brown gloves, a large black jacket with stains, blue jeans with stains, a splint with wrap bandage, underwear with stains and a silver dagger.

Shirley Newman says she has not spoken to her son since his arrest. He hasn’t called and she can’t bring herself to visit him in jail. Instead, she says her thoughts are with Alycia Nipp’s mother. “I want to hold her. I want to hold the mom. I want to hold her and take the pain away. I would just give anything if I could just bring her daughter back,” said Newman.Aritcle continues: http://www.nwcn.com/topstories/stories/NW_022509WAB-hazel-dell-murder-dagger-LJ.167d097.html

[Smore9564]

I cant say for sure.. this is only what I've been told.. but I know someone that knows the family and they did call the police much earlier. I honestly cannot confirm nor deny this.. but I do know, that quite often, the media does not get the facts straight. Maybe, hopefully, the family will stop by. I did pass along the information for this site.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

I cant say for sure.. this is only what I've been told.. but I know someone that knows the family and they did call the police much earlier. I honestly cannot confirm nor deny this.. but I do know, that quite often, the media does not get the facts straight. Maybe, hopefully, the family will stop by. I did pass along the information for this site.
Even if they didn't call until 1 am, I don't find any fault with the family. As I said above, there could be many reasons they did not call until that time.

Sadly, no matter what time they had called it was too late. I am sure the family will second guess their every action that day but their is little they could have done.

[RockRGrl]

[QUOTE=philly_phan;163445]Ughhh, I don't even want to get STARTED on this thread, but my ONLY thought at this moment is this, after reading your comment: PART OF THE PROBLEM IS RAPISTS, CHILD MOLESTERS, SEX OFFENDERS IN GENERAL DO NOT SPEND ENOUGH TIME BEHIND BARS! We need to castrate these fuckers or put a huge, glowing, blinking neon sign on these mofo's to be able to spot them and keep our eyes on them! We should be able to shoot these people at will. We should be able to REFUSE them service and not rent them apartments. We should make life so fucking miserable for these fuckers that they will want to RUN AWAY REAL FAST to another country, island or living situation. I don't want them next door to me, my sister, down the block or next to the post office! There are children EVERYWHERE. Women. Men. Potential VICTIMS are everywhere for these fuckers. We need to condemn them to their own fucking island to rape and molest one another! FUCK THEM. Once they cross the line and touch kids or rape women, their rights should go right down w/ that victim's dignity and innocence...FUCK THEM! :thefinger:

I have to agree with Philly_Phan on this one. I do not have one ounce of sympathy for sex offenders and they should all be publicly humilated and made to live in "sex offender communities"..be it an island, mobile home park in the middle of fucking nowhere and with big neon signs at the entrance for all to see!
I'd like to see all Level III sex offenders locked up for life. They are the level most likely to reoffend so why give them the opportunity to reoffend?
I have a level III offender moving in to my neighborhood in a couple weeks. Fucker has spent the last 8 years in prison for forcibly raping a girl under the age of 13 (he was 20 at the time) and also an attemped rape.
My state is allowing him to move back to the same house he lived in with his parents because he has completed his sentence in full. The place where he committed his crimes is right across the fucking street at the local ballfield!
So everytime he looks out his front window he can re-live what he did, picture it happening because he is right fucking there! I think that'd fuck with his head too!
What I wanna know is why? Why can he move across the street from the ballpark? 2 blocks from an elementary school? A block from the public library? Because he did his time? Fuck that! That innocent girl gets a life sentence for having to remember what happened daily, he should too! It seems so absurd! I just can't wrap my mind around it.
All I can do is keep an extra close eye on my kids, but fuck, he shouldn't be out in the first place!
:mad25:

Well the Level III sex offender that moved in to my neighborhood after being released from prison made it a whole entire month back in society. Was arrested yesterday by the local cops for the VERY SAME CRIME he just spent 8 years in prison for....shouldn't even have been allowed out in the first place...now he has ruined another girls life! UGH I am disgusted!

[Unamused Cat]

Update: Guilty Plea


With the plea in Clark County Superior Court, Darrin Eugene Sanford, 31, avoided a trial and the possibility of receiving the death penalty if convicted. He will be sentenced June 22 to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

http://www.katu.com/news/47465512.html

[Just my luck sucks]

With the plea in Clark County Superior Court, Darrin Eugene Sanford, 31, avoided a trial and the possibility of receiving the death penalty if convicted. He will be sentenced June 22 to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Too easy on him. Slow torture, followed by an excruciating death would be a start. Hell, even his Mom agreed.

RIP sweet Alycia.