Amber Alert issued for Haleigh Cummings, 4 [Archive] - Page 8

MadmamainNC

April 14th, 2010, 12:43 PM

Authorities have interviewed another one of Misty Croslin's relatives in reference to Haleigh Cumming's disappearance.

Croslins's cousin, Joe Overstreet, was interviewed late Tuesday night. The 20-year-old lives in Nashville, Tennessee.

~snip~

Overstreet spent the evening with family and friends. Then around 11:30 Tuesday night his attorney, Shawn Sirgo, showed up.

The two talked outside Overstreet's home for 20 minutes and then left in his attorney's car.

First Coast News followed the two to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation in Nashville.

Overstreet and his attorney were escorted inside. Less than 45 minutes later, Overstreet was out and on his way back home. http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=154726&catid=3

See I think he's the scapegoat. The likely suspect. They checked his van thoroughly after she went missing and came up with nothing. Then all this shit and let him walk out?
Like NG said "IF THIS SCENARIO WERE TRUE"
Need to go back and question her bio-factor. POS whitetrash thug wanna be's.

And further more... I agree with NG on this one.. BS to them being scared of J.O. She's more scared of Ron IMO and an entire family of inbreds would have torn that boy limb from limb and served him in the roadkill stew. I don't believe for a minute what they are saying.

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 01:00 PM

http://www.wsmv.com/news/23145916/detail.html

COUSIN JOE

Antioch Man Questioned In Fla. Girl's Disappearance
Year-Long Search Leads Investigators To Nashville
Written by Tiffany Sawyer
POSTED: 6:54 am CDT April 14, 2010
UPDATED: 9:01 am CDT April 14, 2010

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- An Antioch man was questioned by investigators late Tuesday night about the 2009 disappearance of a Florida girl.

A recent tip has given investigators a new lead in their search for Haleigh Cummings, a 5-year-old girl who’s been missing for more than a year.

That search apparently led them to Nashville and Joseph Overstreet.

Overstreet and his attorney, Shawn Sirgo, arrived at the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation at about 11 p.m. Tuesday.

According to his Sirgo, Overstreet was called in by Florida investigators for routine questioning about the night Haleigh disappeared.

He’s the cousin of Misty Croslin, the teenage ex-wife of Haleigh’s father, and the last person seen with the child.

Overstreet, who’s now almost 21, was questioned in the days immediately following Haleigh’s disappearance, but has never been identified as a suspect or a person of interest.

Joseph has told investigators he was in the area when Haleigh went missing from her Florida home, but was in no way involved with the child’s disappearance.

“He has no knowledge of what happened to that poor child, and he’s heart-broken, too,” said Sirgo.

Police last spoke with Overstreet four to six months ago. Sirgo insisted Tuesday night’s meeting was routine, and that it wasn’t unexpected.

He said, “They initiated the contact, but it’s a follow-up to the last contacts we had. I knew at some time they would be asking us to come in again and we were in agreement with that.”

“The investigation is going to continue, they’ll contact me if they feel the need to speak with Joseph again,” explained Sirgo. “We will cooperate with them to any degree that assists the case.”

<snipped>

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 01:29 PM

http://www.news4jax.com/news/23147800/detail.html

Ex-FBI Agent Says He Solved Haleigh Case

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A former FBI agent told Channel 4 news Wednesday he knows what happened to Haleigh Cummings and why dozens of sheriff's deputies, divers and other officials are spending a second day searching the St. Johns River.

"Monday was the culmination of this 10-month investigation I've been doing," said Steve Brown, now a private investigator working for Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield. "We presented this to the Putnam Country Sheriff's Office and the FDLE, and with their cooperation, finally got the final details of what transpired in that trailer on Feb. 9th."

Five-year-old Haleigh disappeared from her father's mobile home in Satsuma sometime after she was put to bed that night. By the next morning, an Amber Alert was issued and 14 months of search efforts and investigation into thousands of tips and spanning several states began.
Brown said he knows what happened to Haleigh, and evidence prosecutors need to prove it is what investigators are searching for in the river near the Shell Harbor Boat Ramp -- about five miles south of where Haleigh disappeared.

"I can tell you, but I won't," Brown told Channel 4's Bruce Hamilton. "I can't tell you anything, at this point, that I think will compromise the police investigation."

While Brown wouldn't say who the Putnam County Sheriff's Office considers suspects, he said he does not think Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, had anything to do with her disappearance. He could not say the same for Misty Croslin, the teenage babysitter who put Haleigh to bed that night and would go on to marry, then divorce Ronald Cummings.

"Misty certainly knows what happened in the trailer that night," Brown said.Misty Croslin-Cummings, who is awaiting trial on drug trafficking charges, was brought from the St. Johns County jail to Putnam County to be interviewed on Tuesday.

Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy would not say much about the investigation or the river search, he did say briefed Haleigh's family Tuesday about recent developments and that Haleigh had not been found."The conversations we had were between me and the family," Hardy said.

Haleigh's great grandmother, Teresa Neves, told the "Today Show" Wednesday morning that they were only told that investigators were searching an area because they got a tip.

"Any time they call you in and tell you they're going to be doing such a search, it's hard for us ... because we still believe she's alive," Neves said.

Brown said he believes the Putnam County Sheriff's Office knows who is responsible for Haleigh's disappearance. He also said that people will probably not be surprised when it is finally revealed who is responsible for Haleigh's disappearance, and it's possible that more than one person may face charges connected to the case.

"I personally thing that they have probable cause, but the problem is, it's one thing to have probable cause to make an arrest, it is something else to have enough probable cause to make the case when it goes to court. They are being careful, which is the right thing to do."

Brown was somewhat skeptical that investigators would find what they were looking for in the river.

"It was there. Fourteen months later, I don't know what's going to be there," Brown said.

The sheriff's office released a statement Wednesday morning saying it would be irresponsible for it "to comment on speculative comments made by any independent source without having viable information to corroborate it."

"If and when any factual information is obtained in this case that will either explain what happened to Haleigh Cummings, or identify who is responsible for her disappearance; (the sheriff) will make formal release to the public," Putnam County Lt. Johnny Greenwood said.

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 01:44 PM

http://www.artharris.com/2010/04/14/exclusive-tommy-croslin-gives-up-haleigh-tips/

Exclusive: Tommy Croslin Gives Up Haleigh Tips

MadmamainNC

April 14th, 2010, 01:47 PM

That's what I call Lip service Groovy..
I can tell you but I won't... I know but don't..
I don't know if they do know what happened. Or ever will know the truth. All they do know is that little girl is gone. No reason to even believe she's still alive. And I can't wrap my head around what possibly could have happened to her in her last moments.

No one protected her. Not a soul. And I agree with NG on the fact, they all need to go down. Every last one of them.

While it's a day late and dollar short, I believe her mother is in God awful pain and my heart goes out to her. Knowing she could have protected her child if she had her act together. She has to be suffering some major guilt and anger there. I pray that all her pain is put to loving her little boy more than she could ever had done before and keeping her life on the straight and narrow. I believe in my heart that this has changed her greatly. I don't know if I could have survived this myself. She's a beautiful woman with great poise and I do wish her the ability to heal and a happy life despite the challenges ahead of her.

I also have another thing to say. Both cases, the GP was pulling rank. Caylee's case, Cindy put her foot down and Haleigh's grandmother also said "no" to Misty when she wanted time to herself that weekend.
While tough love is good, maybe it's not always the smartest thing to do when there's a little one involved?
Yes I've been there ( as some personal friends here know)and done that but always put my GD first and eventually my daughter got through this very brief rough patch. There were no drug issues, but a mother at 16 is not easy. And seeing life pass you buy and your friends rubbing it in, doesn't make it any better. Tough love was used but never at the expense of the child. And yes it was scary not knowing how to get control of the situation. But you can't force a resentful person to tend to a child and put that child first. You just can't.

Undeniable Truth

April 14th, 2010, 02:03 PM

I just don't think cousin Joe simply showed up out of the blue to "steal guns" and took Haleigh instead. I also don't think Misty woke up and in her haziness, spotted him with Haleigh. Those two statements alone are mutually exclusive. I also don't believe for one second that she's been lying all this time solely out of fear of anybody's vengeance.

Be it something small, or something as large as masterminding this whole damn thing: Misty has only been lying to cover her own ass.

I just don't don't find it probable that she's a victim in this in any way.

Echo

April 14th, 2010, 02:16 PM

The story is VERY unbeliveable isn't it?

You are going to kidnap and kill a child because of a gun that is owed to you.

Ridiculous.

MadmamainNC

April 14th, 2010, 02:22 PM

Hey Friends: I really appreciate all of you for the fact that you know who I am, how I am and that I am one of those inherently "see all the good" types of people. I think it is so sweet that so many have pointed that out. As far as Ron, perhaps I gave him the benefit of the doubt because I thought he was so sincere in the 911 call and the early days after haleigh went missing. You guys could be right. I have been known to be wrong. And unfortunately, in this case... I am most likely wrong. Which is sad.

And do know D, that it's not meant to lessen your worth. IMO I just believe you are a genuinely kind person who has a great deal of empathy for others. You have an ability to try to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Or at least think before you judge while some of us (myself included) come out swinging from the get go. You force us to stop and think. I still say he's scum. I would like to find out I'm wrong about him because it sickens me that yet another parent allowed their child to suffer.

This world isn't getting any prettier. :dong:

Dneilz

April 14th, 2010, 02:36 PM

WEll.... if we find out that he (Ronald) is involved.... I would like to have a public stoning, DD style. Instead of stones, I say we throw bee hives at him. Of course we would be netted and with protection.

If he isn't involved. Then I feel so very sorry for him, especially with the situation he is in. (stuck in jail while they are searching for his small daughters remains. How terrible would that be?)

biteme

April 14th, 2010, 03:19 PM

Misty's greatest ally in this case has been, people not believing she could master mind this mess alone, but psychopaths are very good at living in their own reality and lying about everything and everyone, just look at Casey they live in their own made up little world

Ladyeridan

April 14th, 2010, 03:44 PM

thequeenofsorrow

April 14th, 2010, 03:52 PM

Ron was so believable sad when he was on Maury for the missing kid show.... I can't believe how much there is to Haleigh's story..... damn

Dneilz

April 14th, 2010, 03:58 PM

Can't we use paper wasps instead? or hornets? Bees only sting once, then die. wasps, though... multiple stings, significantly more painful.
ABSOLUTELY!!! :crazy: Now I feel evil.

myra manes

April 14th, 2010, 04:50 PM

http://thenewdaymare.blogspot.com/

Read Mistys Letter NOW about what happened that night.........

penelopejo

April 14th, 2010, 05:05 PM

http://thenewdaymare.blogspot.com/

Read Mistys Letter NOW about what happened that night.........

Awful penmanship and awful grammar. But the gist of it is:

Joe and Tommy followed her home to get a gun, and Joe threatened her with a knife. She doesn't think that Tommy did shit, but she knows that Tommy "new" something. She doesn't even know how Joe drove home that night. She just wishes she knew what he did....blah blah blah, I love you Chelsea, please "right" me.

She is so dumb. Literally. And I think she is saying he raped her? Or he threatened to rape and kill her? IDK, poor scan in and handwriting.

Rockin Ma

April 14th, 2010, 05:25 PM

No evidence found so far in latest Haleigh search
(Update posted at 4:30 p.m.) No new evidence has been found so far in the newest search related to Haleigh Cummings, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office reported Wednesday afternoon.

"At this point, this search has failed to yield any items of evidentiary value in the case," the agency reported in a statement released at about 4 p.m.

The Sheriff's Office also refuted a rumor that anyone is in custody regarding the case.

"There is currently no one in law enforcement custody as the result of the investigation into Haleigh Cummings' disappearance," the statement reported.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100414/ARTICLES/4141011?Title=PI-says-his-tip-led-to-search-in-Haleigh-case

MichaelJCheaney

April 14th, 2010, 05:35 PM

How shitty of a drug dealer are you if you still live in a mobile home?

Echo

April 14th, 2010, 05:36 PM

The spelling in that letter.........Oh my. People should not be allowed to legally drop out of school as Misty did. Her writing skills are terrible.

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 05:57 PM

From earlier today..

http://www.bloggernews.net/124309

Haleigh Cummings Search Update - Wed Apr 14 12:20pm

BNN does have a foot soldier on site at the search scene in Putnam County. There appears to be a media feeding frenzy, and tempers are flaring. Apparently one Fox reporter has actually managed to get himself arrested. The eyewitness report is that he was screaming obscenities at the police for not letting the press get closer to the actual search site. The Police eventually got fed up with these antics and escorted the gentleman away.

As you can see from these early photos, the media is out in full force.

Armando is also reporting that the local residents are getting quite upset with the entire event. Many experienced a sleepless night because of all of the commotion going on.

I talked again with Steve Brown earlier this morning, Steve is the PI working for Crystal Sheffield that tipped the police off, instigating this search. He is still very concerned with not interfering with the criminal investigation by saying too much publicly. However he did say some things that might clear up some speculation.

Monday evenings discussion with the PCSO was the result of 10 months of investigation. He also explained that while his client is Crystal Sheffield he is also closely associated with Tommy Croslin’s lawyer. What was left unsaid was if the culmination of the 10 months work was recent information originating from Tommy Croslin.

I have spoken with Steve on a couple of occasions, he is a highly credible man with great credentials. Let us hope that he has unlocked the door to solving this case. 14 months is a very long time for a body to be in the water and moving water at that, one wonders if the police can find any definitive evidence at this stage.

It was most unfortunate that he (in is own words) was ‘forced out the closet’ by some irresponsible tabloid journalism last night. Lieutenant Johnny Greenwood had made it abundantly clear in his communique with the press that he did not want the mans name released. In fact I was surprised that HLN even knew his name. And flabbergasted that they would choose to air it against the express wishes of the PCSO. I am sure that the next time he calls the PCSO he is in for one of those fabled ‘fireside chats’ with Jonny Greenwood, I have heard that they can be quite intense! A wonderful way to cleanse the soul!

This search has also opened up some older windows on the world. There is apparently a very interesting audio tape that I am trying to get hold of. It was thought to be part of some data that I was sent on a Thumb-Drive a while back, but it is not. The owner of the tape is furiously trying to locate it, and I will publish it as soon as I receive it.

More soon.

Simon Barrett

(pictures at link)

Rhoni

April 14th, 2010, 06:01 PM

How shitty of a drug dealer are you if you still live in a mobile home?

:five: well at least the one they lived in. I have seen some pretty nice newer Mobile homes so I am not downing those.

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 06:20 PM

http://www.wesh.com/news/23137925/detail.html

Video explaining why the river search is so slow and localized due to underwater visibility.

Also talks about the boxes the divers are using - not a cooler found.

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 06:26 PM

Misty Croslin in her prison blues appears to be at the scene of the search for Haleigh Cummings. http://bit.ly/95Q5xy
http://twitter.com/clickorlando

Was on SM.

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 06:28 PM

http://images.ibsys.com/2010/0414/23152986.jpg

Moisty at search site today.

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 06:34 PM

Courtesy of SM-------

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image113.png

Oh Gosh, wouldn't it be tragic if someone pushed bumped into her and she fell in while shackled? hahaha

Love her "ensemble" ~ prison blues, white socks & scuffs,,better get use to them Mushy, looks like you will be wearing them a long time!!!

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 06:40 PM

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=154759&catid=3

Joe Overstreet, Cousin of Misty Crosli, Speaks Out Following Late-Night Interview about Haleigh Cummings
Ann Butler Jackelyn Barnard Created: 4/14/2010 4:59:49 PM Updated: 4/14/2010 5:34:34 PM
NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- An emotional Joe Overstreet, a cousin of Misty Croslin, broke down today, saying he does not know what happened to Haleigh Cummings.

Overstreet was interviewed about the disappearance of Haleigh in Nashville late Tuesday night by Florida Department of Law Enforcement agents. Earlier Tuesday, several police agencies had resumed searching a stretch of the St. Johns River south of the Satsuma home where Haleigh was last seen.

The 5-year-old disappeared from the home in Feb. 2009. Croslin, Haleigh's former stepmother, was caring for her the night she vanished. The case has never been solved.

In an interview today with First Coast News, Overstreet, who lives in Nashville, accompanied by his mother, Tina Overstreet, and his attorney Robert Sirgo, discussed the ordeal.

Tina Overstreet said her son mainly stays at home these days, not doing much because of the emotional toll the case has had on him.

Overstreet was in Satsuma for vacation and planned to leave the day Haleigh was reported missing, he said, but some have speculated that his departure seemed suspicious and sudden.

Overstreet said today that he helped pass out fliers with Croslin, alerting the public to the missing child, and contributed flowers to a memorial for her.

Overstreet does not remember any specific interactions with Haleigh, but said he did see her a couple of times during his visit.

He described the interview Tuesday night as not long and very professional. Law enforcement officials, Overstreet said, did not seem to be on a "witch hunt."

Sirgo said today he believes the investigation is coming to a head. Many making comments about the case don't have all the facts and are only seeking the limelight, he added.

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 06:42 PM

http://www.news4jax.com/video/15505198/index.html

showing video of Misty at the dock

Dakota Valkyrie

April 14th, 2010, 06:44 PM

http://images.ibsys.com/2010/0414/23152986.jpg

Moisty at search site today.

I'm too lazy to wade back in the thread... I did a bit and got too confused so better just to ask.

If she "knows nothing", why would they bring her there? A picture would suffice to identify the general area. Unless they needed her to point out something... which people who "know nothing" can not do.

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 06:45 PM

http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/23153122/detail.html

slideshow of Misty

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 07:07 PM

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/joeoverstreetnadmom.jpg

Joe Overstreet and Mom Tina on their way to press conference,

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 07:12 PM

I have no idea who this is, but was just posted on SM.

Sam Watkins As promised, I have news from Haleigh's family. Everything you have heard has no facts to back it up. Everything has been sensationalized. They have found nothing! There you go, irresponsible reporting at its finest! Only believe the Putnam County Sheriff's Office. I will be informed if something happens and i will let you know. Please keep the family in your prayers, they need your prayers!

posted on Sam Watkins facebook a little while ago.

FYI.....

I am now more confused than ever ????:vollkommenauf:

EDIT - Apparently this Sam Watkins is a close family friend.

Rockin Ma

April 14th, 2010, 07:35 PM

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 07:43 PM

Well well Groove, you did not read my post!

The police said they've found nothing of evidentary value.

But who knows? It's hard when a case is this big to find what's truth and what isn't just someone speaking as if they have authority and/or direct knowledge when they really don't.

Yes Rockin,,,you are right,,,check this out;

http://www.news4jax.com/news/23147800/detail.html

The ex-FBI agent thinks there will be an arrest soon, regardless of what is found in the river.

This is good news to me.

----

"There may be other people culpable, but as to who killed Haleigh, that's not going to be a big surprise," Brown said.

Brown said that while he believes an arrest will come soon, he's not surprised that the Putnam County Sheriff's Office is taking its time.

"I personally think that they have probable cause, but the problem is, it's one thing to have probable cause to make an arrest, it is something else to have enough probable cause to make the case when it goes to court. They are being careful, which is the right thing to do."

Brown was somewhat skeptical that investigators would find what they were looking for in the river.

"It was there. Fourteen months later, I don't know what's going to be there," Brown said.

---

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 07:46 PM

http://www.wsmv.com/news/23152983/detail.html

Antioch Man Says He Didn't Hurt Missing Fla. Girl
Joe Overstreet Questioned For Third Time

Reported by Caroline Moses

POSTED: 4:44 pm CDT April 14, 2010
UPDATED: 5:49 pm CDT April 14, 2010

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- There's some news in Tennessee about the case of a missing child in Florida.

The cousin of Haleigh Cummings' former stepmother lives in Antioch and was called in for questioning a third time. He's now talking, saying he had nothing to do with the child's death or disappearance.

Joe Overstreet, 20, has been under suspicion by some of his family for 14 months, he said, and he broke down while speaking for the first time about the investigation.

"I'm sorry. I can't imagine what they're going through. I didn't do it," Overstreet said. "If I knew who did, I would straight call the cops and tell who did it."

Overstreet struggled Wednesday to maintain his composure as he talked about this case.

Haleigh disappeared from her home 14 months ago. Her father's ex-wife said she put the 5-year-old to bed one night in February 2009, and that was the last anyone saw of the girl.

Overstreet and his attorney said family members are the ones who keep putting Overstreet back on the hot seat.

"At his age, to be accused of such a horrendous act and to be given no support, it's disgusting," said Overstreet's attorney, Shawn Sirgo.

Sirgo and Overstreet said they are confident the facts will prove the man's innocence. They both drove to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation on Tuesday night to meet with investigators, who flew in from Florida. They stayed with them for about 40 minutes, Sirgo said.

"It was obviously a short interview, which means that there was no substantial change," said Sirgo. "I have a good idea of what they're going to do next."

Sirgo said the next move does not involve any action against his client, who he said has already suffered more than he should

"I lost a lot of family," said Overstreet.

Haleigh's father and his ex-wife are both in jail in connection with a prescription drug ring.

Rhoni

April 14th, 2010, 08:10 PM

I'm too lazy to wade back in the thread... I did a bit and got too confused so better just to ask.

If she "knows nothing", why would they bring her there? A picture would suffice to identify the general area. Unless they needed her to point out something... which people who "know nothing" can not do.

Good question Dakota. I would love to have an answer to this.

On another note. As far as LE releasing any info or maybe telling about something they have found or even charging anyone, remember this is Florida and once Charged ect doesn't that make it public record. Wouldn't they have to release a bunch of stuff? I am not positive how the "Sunshine Law" works anyone know for a fact? I am just going by the anthony case.

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 08:16 PM

OMG!!! You guys GOT to see this video!!! It was Grandma Hollar who spilled the beans,,,,,

Video of Grandma Hollar telling what she knows:
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=37403@wtev.web.entriq.net&navCatId=5

Wellllll, tweet from fox35 says that Grandma Hollar (Tommy and Mistys Grandma) is the tipster....Tommy told Grandma Hollar that Joe is the perp.

WS

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 08:27 PM

Anybody watching NG??? this was just on SM,

did the guy on NG just say Misty has flipped??? lol

Yep, I believe that is what I heard him say.

myra manes

April 14th, 2010, 08:28 PM

http://images.ibsys.com/2010/0414/23152986.jpg

Moisty at search site today.

The fucking bitch probably knows EXACTLY where Haleigh's body is located!! :argh:

Whisper

April 14th, 2010, 08:28 PM

Good question Dakota. I would love to have an answer to this.

On another note. As far as LE releasing any info or maybe telling about something they have found or even charging anyone, remember this is Florida and once Charged ect doesn't that make it public record. Wouldn't they have to release a bunch of stuff? I am not positive how the "Sunshine Law" works anyone know for a fact? I am just going by the anthony case.
Im thinking b/c they fucked up CAYLEE
Released her body being discovered to soon and media and mobs jumped on down
If they found ANTHING
The small tiny bit they have may not want it contaminated and they dont wanna a mob again while they continue?

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 08:29 PM

Also,,

Nancy is in rare form tonight. She's looking a bit frazzled. Speculation her attorneys arranged the trip to the dock for Misty so she can avoid the death penalty.

penelopejo

April 14th, 2010, 08:29 PM

You know what I absolutely hate?

That people don't say anything about a crime out of the goodness of their heart. Knowing full well that Joe took her, they still said nothing. It is heartbreaking that people are only looking out for themselves now a days. I heard 2 news stories today where someone finally came forward with information about people who were murdered in cold blood over 3 years ago. It's all so very fucking heartbreaking because the people who were murdered had family too. And to save their asses they barely come forward? Fuck them.

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 08:46 PM

PCSO News Release

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office has received many media inquiries concerning a rumor that has uncontrollably spread throughout our community. The rumor that a subject is either currently being detained by law enforcement, or is in law enforcement custody related to the Haleigh Cummings case has been reported to the media. Sheriff Hardy wants the citizens of Putnam County and the media to know that this rumor is false. There is currently no one in law enforcement custody as the result of the investigation into Haleigh Cummings’ disappearance.

More at link:
http://pcso.us/2010-4-14-a

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 09:44 PM

There are SO many rumors flying around the internetz,,,may as wel ladd one more, this was on SM,

The_Rose_Red

Today I've heard more of the story..BUT from a different person still close to the case.. Quite horriffic..I won't be posting the how.. BBL

http://twitter.com/The_Rose_Red

Jerri Blank

April 14th, 2010, 09:49 PM

There are SO many rumors flying around the internetz,,,may as wel ladd one more, this was on SM,

what a jip! why did that person post anything, geez, whats going on here?

I'm really in the dark..are they on the verge of finding the little girl? by the looks of the photo posted that seems like what they are expecting, so sad

Echo

April 14th, 2010, 10:15 PM

Okay.

Joe O accused by Misty and Tommy, questioned by LE again and not arrested.

Misty and Ronald in prison for drug charges, want out, Misty writes letter pointing finger at Joe. Joe Cleared.......and then shackled Misty 100's is taken to the dock which we can now assume is the dump site.

Giant break in the case........no suspect in custody.

I say its because the murderer/murderers are already in custody.

I do not believe that Misty is an innocent bystander in all of this. Not at all. Her being at the dock proves that to me.

Dneilz

April 14th, 2010, 10:17 PM

Echo

April 14th, 2010, 10:21 PM

Exactly, if she knew NOTHING AT ALL.... she wouldn't be out on the dock pointing to where they need to look. THAT FUCKING BITCH!!! She is one rotten apple... right to the core!

Yup D, she is working out a deal for sure. I KNEW that little asshole would crack from the first jail visit video that I saw. She was Miserable, terrified, and crazed.

Kudos to LE for busting her trashy ass for hill billy heroin and putting the pressure on her.

Prison does funny things to people.

Dneilz

April 14th, 2010, 10:28 PM

Yup D, she is working out a deal for sure. I KNEW that little asshole would crack from the first jail visit video that I saw. She was Miserable, terrified, and crazed.

Kudos to LE for busting her trashy ass for hill billy heroin and putting the pressure on her.

Prison does funny things to people.
You got a great way with words Echo. Your description fits her to a TOOTH!

Dneilz

April 14th, 2010, 10:30 PM

YouTube- Redneck Rap REDNECK MINUTE

This is a little humor for ya'll..... well worth watching. It is funny :)

Echo

April 14th, 2010, 10:47 PM

She is a douche , a liar, and an addict and she knows exactly what happened to that poor little baby. She can't point her fingers at ghosts all she wants.....I think the real story is going to be a lot darker and sinister than we can imagine.

Lizard

April 14th, 2010, 11:08 PM

I think the real story is going to be a lot darker and sinister than we can imagine.

Or maybe somehow worse...utterly banal and stupid.

Hey, posters, thanks for keeping this thread up-to-date. But, shit, nothing of evidentiary value found yet?

Echo

April 14th, 2010, 11:13 PM

Or maybe somehow worse...utterly banal and stupid.

Hey, posters, thanks for keeping this thread up-to-date. But, shit, nothing of evidentiary value found yet?

Sinister or Dark, or Haliegh swallowed a few of Misty's oxy's while she was making the couch "squeak" with that random dude while Ron was at work.........

Baby may have OD'd. I think that is a plausible option .

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 11:25 PM

Or maybe somehow worse...utterly banal and stupid.

Hey, posters, thanks for keeping this thread up-to-date. But, shit, nothing of evidentiary value found yet?

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/MistyLake041410.gif

This was posted on SM

Hi there Lizard,,

As of now I don't recall any mention of what they have in the area of evidence,,,but I was hoping...looks like you were at the search site,,,any news to share???

Lizard

April 14th, 2010, 11:30 PM

Hi there Lizard,,

As of now I don't recall any mention of what they have in the area of evidence,,,but I was hoping...looks like you were at the search site,,,any news to share???

groovy, it would be irresponsible of me to release any information or lack thereof before the authorities have completed their efforts in this area.

And LOL!

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 11:31 PM

Here's a little something posted on SM

Local News 35 says something was taken out of the water and sent to a lab.

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 11:35 PM

groovy, it would be irresponsible of me to release any information or lack thereof before the authorities have completed their efforts in this area.

And LOL!

HAHA,,yes, good thinking! I don't think it would be conducive to your Lizard nature spending anytime in a courtroom!!

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 11:37 PM

SM=

Gabby8er

Croslin is expected to testify against the person who will be arrested in exchange for a reduced sentence for her drug charges. cfnews13.com

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 11:39 PM

Search For Haleigh Intensifies, Arrest "Imminent"
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:51:49 PM

SATSUMA -- The search is on for a second straight day in Satsuma for Haleigh Cummings. Misty Croslin was taken to the search scene in handcuffs Wednesday afternoon.

A source close to the case told News 13 an arrest in the Cummings’ case is imminent.

Croslin is expected to testify against the person who will be arrested in exchange for a reduced sentence for her drug charges.

Croslin’s cousin, Joe Overstreet, was questioned by police for a third time Tuesday CNN reports.

Joe Overstreet lives in Tennessee, but was in Florida the night Haleigh was reported missing.

He was questioned by the FBI days after Haleigh's disappearance in February 2009.

Croslin has been in jail for weeks on unrelated drug charges.

She has been seen talking to authorities on the dock of the St. Johns River, while investigators spent a second day searching the river.

Putnam County authorities have released a statement saying that the search has not "yielded any items of evidentiary value in the case."

The Putnam County sheriff would not say why the river is being searched, but the television station is reporting that they're acting on a credible tip.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/14/search_for_haleigh_intensifies_misty_on_the_scene. html?cmpid=twitter

Echo

April 14th, 2010, 11:39 PM

SM=

I knew she would strike a deal. Who is going to be arrested? It's clearly not Joe O. Is It?

Tommy? Squeaky Couch Dude?

I am convinced she was involved.

MC30

April 14th, 2010, 11:39 PM

hey yall, just got home
wtf? how is musty supposed to help them search a river that she didn't go to 'cause she 'don't know what happened to Haleigh, she was asleep'. *nod nod* sure. her goose is cooked. now how does Ron fit it into all this? sorry. i he were truly not involved, nah, i still think he's a douche.

TheMorningStar

April 14th, 2010, 11:41 PM

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/MistyLake041410.gif

This was posted on SM

Hi there Lizard,,

As of now I don't recall any mention of what they have in the area of evidence,,,but I was hoping...looks like you were at the search site,,,any news to share???

Dmax was there too? O_o

Rhoni

April 14th, 2010, 11:43 PM

Sinister or Dark, or Haliegh swallowed a few of Misty's oxy's while she was making the couch "squeak" with that random dude while Ron was at work.........

Baby may have OD'd. I think that is a plausible option .

I don't see a 4 year old taking pills..Maybe, but not likely. Not on her own anyway. I do agree about misty on the couch with some dude. That is what I thought when the boy said the couch was going up and down...Maybe it was as simple as Haleigh catching misty and was going to tell Daddy (and by Daddy I mean ron not God) sorry just couldn't resist..The one thing for certain is misty would not be out there by the dock just having lunch. There is a reason for her being there other than a photo shoot..

I can't take this suspense. I am not good at that. I remember when I was younger if I was reading a really good book sometimes I would HAVE to read the last page. I just couldn't help myself..I learned to not do that as an adult but still have issues handling suspense..So please for my sanity GIVE ME ANSWERS ALREADY!!!

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 11:46 PM

Blink post,

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/04/14/haleigh-cummings-case-sources-say-we-are-close/

Haleigh Cummings Case: Sources Say “WE ARE CLOSE”

MadmamainNC

April 14th, 2010, 11:46 PM

Still catching up ... have a page to go but I suspect nothing new..

I feel like we're reliving the J. Blanchard Park saga.

Echo

April 14th, 2010, 11:48 PM

I don't see a 4 year old taking pills..Maybe, but not likely. Not on her own anyway. I do agree about misty on the couch with some dude. That is what I thought when the boy said the couch was going up and down...Maybe it was as simple as Haleigh catching misty and was going to tell Daddy (and by Daddy I mean ron not God) sorry just couldn't resist..The one thing for certain is misty would not be out there by the dock just having lunch. There is a reason for her being there other than a photo shoot..

I can't take this suspense. I am not good at that. I remember when I was younger if I was reading a really good book sometimes I would HAVE to read the last page. I just couldn't help myself..I learned to not do that as an adult but still have issues handling suspense..So please for my sanity GIVE ME ANSWERS ALREADY!!!

Lmao Rhoni! (I have missed you, really)

Good point about Haliegh talking but why leave the little boy and just kill her? Her brother is the one that let the cat out of the bag about Misty effing for drugs. (I'm sure that is what she was doing)

Why just little Haliegh, unless some kind of horrible accident happened while she was "watching her." Maybe Haliegh thought the oxy's were candy and swallowed a bunch, overdosed, Misty panics and dumps her in the river and claims she disappeared while she was sleeping.

I know I don't believe that baby was killed because Joe O was pissed off about a gun. It just makes ZERO sense.

Although, I am prone to believe that the truth is somewhere between the lies.

Rhoni

April 14th, 2010, 11:49 PM

Dmax was there too? O_o

:laugh:

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 11:51 PM

Dmax was there too? O_o
:congrats:
AHAHAHA...I never took notice of that swinging monkey,,yeah LIz,,you didn't tell us you & Dmax were doing on the scene reporting ~ you really take good care of us Demons!!!!

MC30

April 14th, 2010, 11:53 PM

Lizard

April 14th, 2010, 11:54 PM

I figure if I'm patient and persistent, I'll get interviewed by Nancy Grace.

Or Jon Stewart.

Dunno about dmax's personal ambitions...

Sorry, I'll stay on topic from here on out.

groovy135

April 14th, 2010, 11:55 PM

concerned_n_FL

Updated to CRIME SCENE instead of Search Scene

SM

Authorities are now calling the area a crime scene.
http://cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/14/search_for_haleigh_intensifies_misty_on_the_scene. html

Echo

April 14th, 2010, 11:56 PM

Echo, i don't believe a lot of things about these people. and i maybe very very very wrong, but i still think Ron was involved. shit the entire time i figured they killed Haleigh to get some of the $$$ they saw the Anthonys get off Caylee. for reals. and i still believe it.

I wouldn't put anything passed the lot of them....they were living a very disturbing, addicted, dysfunctional lifestyle and Misty is like 12 years old with almost zero education.

She was playing house with Ron and I do believe between her addiction and her subsequent negligence she caused the death of that baby somehow. She hid it. I'm not a big fan of Ron but he really did seem to love his daughter.........but you may be right Momma, he could have helped cover it up as well, even if he wasn't physically there.

They are a collective hot mess and a baby is dead because of it. Poor little peanut never had a chance.

Rhoni

April 14th, 2010, 11:56 PM

Lmao Rhoni! (I have missed you, really)

Good point about Haliegh talking but why leave the little boy and just kill her? Her brother is the one that let the cat out of the bag about Misty effing for drugs. (I'm sure that is what she was doing)

Why just little Haliegh, unless some kind of horrible accident happened while she was "watching her." Maybe Haliegh thought the oxy's were candy and swallowed a bunch, overdosed, Misty panics and dumps her in the river and claims she disappeared while she was sleeping.

I know I don't believe that baby was killed because Joe O was pissed off about a gun. It just makes ZERO sense.

Although, I am prone to believe that the truth is somewhere between the lies.

Thanks Echo :) I would have to answer Haleigh because she was old enough to be believable. The boy on the other hand was still a baby. They could brush off what he was saying as babbling...ron could have had a full blown conversation with Haleigh where with the son it would have been bits and pieces. I don't think I really believe this it's just one of many theories I have tossed around my mind. I just think misty and her buddies are that shallow to kill over such a petty reason. My other theory is much darker and something I really don't like to think about. Either way a child is dead and I hope Daddy( this time I do mean God and not ron) sends them all straight to hell without a drink of water..FUCKERS!!!

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 12:00 AM

Haleighsside

According to Jen Bauer news4jax..Police are keeping a close eye on Joe..Circling his house often..

SM

Echo

April 15th, 2010, 12:01 AM

Thanks Echo :) My other theory is much darker and something I really don't like to think about.

Is it that she may have sold her for drugs, because I swear Rhoni, that thought will not leave my mind. It has bothered me throughout this entire case.

Like little Shaniya Davis. R.I.P.

Rhoni

April 15th, 2010, 12:01 AM

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 12:02 AM

Echo

April 15th, 2010, 12:02 AM

SM

Protective maybe? Why not just arrest him if they have anything against him? A search warrant would have been obtained by now.

I swear, I'm not sure its going to be him.

Echo

April 15th, 2010, 12:05 AM

i would think he loved her..in his own weird twisted way..ahem-'stupid bitch that let my daughter get stole', proposing at Chili's, wearing jeans and a sleeveless shit to his own wedding, correcting her on camera and then telling her what to say on camera...ect ect.

now how could he correct her on camera on what she was to say, if he didn't know what she was 'supposed' to say? how the hell would he know? he 'was at work'.
JMO

Very good point Mama, Im not familiar with that situation, (him correcting her) but I did think the wedding was bizarre...and that god awful tattoo.

As far as proposing at Chili's and his creepy wedding attire....trashy is as trashy does.

And they are the epitome of trashy.

His 911 call was ridiculous.

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 12:05 AM

OMG!! Seriously I can't believe you just said that..WOW. I have to tell you this was another theory of mine. I know I told Special this on the phone last night and I may have mentioned it to Madmama but you just blew me away saying it too..I am so glad I am not the only one to think this..

oh hells to the yeah i think it. JMO they figured if some little prep twit from fl could almost do it, they (JMO again) with their 'street smarts' could actually do it and get away with it.
JMO

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 12:06 AM

hold on a min and ill try to find a copy of the interview.

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 12:11 AM

i think its this one, but im not sure, can't remember.
YouTube- Haleigh Cummings: Mr and Mrs Cummings on "Today"
edit to add...check out his fucking smirk while he says 'i don't know, i was at work'....he is Fucking Smirking!

Rhoni

April 15th, 2010, 12:11 AM

Is it that she may have sold her for drugs, because I swear Rhoni, that thought will not leave my mind. It has bothered me throughout this entire case.

Like little Shaniya Davis. R.I.P.

More like used for drugs...See I have too many damn theories... My mind races and I have so much shit going on. I go back and forth and over and under trying to see what theory I truly believe. I read somewhere in the last couple of days and I can't remember where that ron beat Haleigh with a belt and left marks on her face. That is what made me think about the money thing. I thought how much like casey he was after Haleigh went missing. The things he did. It made me think he saw how much the anthony's were getting paid with a missing child Maybe he would go that route. I talked about this just last night. People give money to families of missing children not so much to families of dead children.

See what I mean if they would just tell us WTF happened I wouldn't have to keep thinking all these crazy thoughts..I JUST CAN"T TAKE IT!!!

Echo

April 15th, 2010, 12:13 AM

I saw a clip of him on some bad daytime tv show. Maybe Maury?

It was the fakest cry ever.

Like Muffin but somehow even more contrived, if that is even possible.

Oh and their body language is extremely protective in the above clip. Like they are hiding something. They are not being open. Look at Ron and Misty.............hiding something.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 12:14 AM

Levi Page had a special show tonight,,Pat Brown is on, I don't think I'm going to listen cause I'm falling asleep, but here it is if anyone wants to listen,

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage

Echo

April 15th, 2010, 12:17 AM

Levi Page had a special show tonight,,Pat Brown is on, I don't think I'm going to listen cause I'm falling asleep, but here it is if anyone wants to listen,

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage

There is no sleep in baseball Grooves.

Goodnight honey!

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 12:25 AM

ron beat Haleigh with a belt and left marks on her face.
well, ya know he did something with his whole 'we have a contract, and i discipline her according to that contract in accordance with dhs...or whatever that drivel was that came out of his mouth...thats why in such a hurry to get her to school that day. had she been tardy (again) they were gonna call dhs.
hehe...iirc (this shit has been going on toooo long)

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 12:46 AM

ECHO!
this was the vid!!!! i found it.
YouTube- Haleigh Cummings' father, Ronald Cummings' Interview by Greta Van Susteren

Jerri Blank

April 15th, 2010, 12:55 AM

Thanks for the summary Echo.

Ever since this started turning in The Putnam County Peyton Place I have stayed away from reading. It became less about finding a sweet little girl and more about the trailer park soaps, and I was disgusted.

I just hope they find her one way or another but sooner than later. The truth will come out eventually, I'm a full believer in Karma.

If what's been said in gossip so far is true though..wow I really do feel bad for Ron, even if he is a love lore juvenile at heart I don't believe he knows squat about what happened to his daughter. I know he's gonna feel like a jackass his whole life as well as the grief he will be enduring. :dong:

ECHO!
this was the vid!!!! i found it.

woah, missed this as I was posting..I'm gonna be eating some crow I think

thefatmom

April 15th, 2010, 12:57 AM

I don't know if this is the case.... But what if misty was jealous that Ron loved haileigh so much and got angry that night. Something happened and she called her brother over to help. She told Ron about it when he got home.... But threatened him with snitching about the drugs they were into dealing. So he kept quiet. I'm just throwing it out there. Though I doubt its the case.

LDhummingbird

April 15th, 2010, 01:03 AM

and that god awful tattoo.

God yes. IMHO, portrait tattoos are questionable at best but that one is just hideous. Gah.

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 01:08 AM

that was THE worst portrait tattoo i have EVER seen...humm, and he wasn't working at the time he got it...
hummm...wonder where he got the dough yo..

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 01:11 AM

thefatmom

April 15th, 2010, 01:29 AM

I think he would. 14 months ago he didn't dream he would ever get caught for the pills. Swore up and down he didn't do or deal drugs. If misty said that she would throw him under the bus he would be scared to lose Jr. He already lost one baby at the hands of the croslins why would he risk the other. Though he eventually got caught dealing because he is an idiot for ever getting involved with that family or the drugs. Personally I'd give a million bucks to know what he's thinking these last few days. The video of him walking out he doesn't seem very emotional. Then again I kinda think he has known all along.

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 01:44 AM

ohh..good point. i kinda wounder if ..well...(gawd's gonna smack me) ron's momma was quick to put on her old jacket just in time for the cameras. in the beginning i assumed she was still a dispatch..come to find out she hadn't been for some time. then even finding out that she was...well, his 911 call...how contrived. the whole 'i don't wanna talk to someone who aint comin'...His own Fucking mother was a dispatch..he knows how that shit works..he fucking knew how it worked....

sorry, pisses me of it does:hello:

thefatmom

April 15th, 2010, 02:13 AM

They are all so fishy idk what to really think of them. The whole situation pisses me off. The croslins are a bunch of fake inbreeds and I just can't figure out Ronald and his mom. This beautiful girl didn't deserve to have to put up with the life she endured. She seemed happy in pictures for the most part. Behind the scenes I think she went through 5 years of hell. Its just not fair. I do know Ron's mom looks Like she used to party hard back in the day. Maybe even still. She has skin Like my moms. I was a drug baby and to this day my momma just can't give up her fixes. When you have known people who have done drugs your entire life its easy to point them out. I do know that they are usually very sneaky and Like to put up a front. Maybe I'm just jumping to conclusions. Idk. I just know that situations Like this make me dread the day my oldest baby has to spend time alone with her father. Luckily she will be 4 next month so she is getting to the age that she will tell me anything that's wrong.

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 02:57 AM

no you are right. the whole it takes one to know one (or in your situation, to have been around one) is on the mark.

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by mommacrazy30
i would think he loved her..in his own weird twisted way..ahem-'stupid bitch that let my daughter get stole', proposing at Chili's, wearing jeans and a sleeveless shit to his own wedding, correcting her on camera and then telling her what to say on camera...ect ect.
:stupido3:

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 04:55 AM

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2010/04/resident-saw-misty-cummings-carrying-a-trashbag/

Resident Saw Misty Carrying a Trash Bag Near Search Area

At end of article: Brown said another resident told him he saw Croslin carrying a trash bag nearby in the days after Haleigh was reported missing.

thefatmom

April 15th, 2010, 04:58 AM

Anyone who wears a sleeveless shirt as wedding attire should be slapped. Just saying.....

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 04:59 AM

anyone remember the roll-off dumpsters?
the dogs hit on them...
idk?

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 06:37 AM

here is a family pic
from left to right
vikkie tina flora lisa bubba liz

Tina = Joe's mom
Lisa = Moldy's mom

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7184.0;attach=1361 6;image

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 06:41 AM

Profiler Pat Brown,,she gives several scenario's in her article,

http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.com/2010/04/criminal-profiling-topic-of-day-why.html

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 06:53 AM

With all the rumors flying around,,who know's what will be brought up next,,i thought I would post this, is case we need any reference to the Croslin side of the Pillbillies

FYI, from SM.

joe does not have a brother
tina is mom
joe
kayla
kristy
brandon overtsreet has
charlie of midland
and josh of midland

brandon overstreet and joe overstreet and brandon frye are all cousins and were all in florida
joe is in tn
brandon has been in midland jail since march 1st
and brandon frye has been in tn jail since mid march and was for the most of last year as well
brandon overstreet lived in florida at the time
and brandon frye and joe overstreet were both in fl visiting relatives and were both transported there by a female (not sure if they were together at all but i d wonder why we never heard his name frm any reporter at all even the hack reporters his criminal tendencies and rap sheet make joe look like an angel in fact he was the ne tat took the pic of joe holding the gun that he has on his ms and my money would bet it was his gun)

joe overstreet
http://www.myspace.com/380818970

kayla pannell overstreet
http://www.myspace.com/michaelandkayleana

kristy overstreet
http://www.myspace.com/krissy53185
------------------------
brandon overstreet
http://www.myspace.com/brandon12345b

charlie overstreet
http://www.myspace.com/292899562

josh overstreet
http://www.myspace.com/418190888
------------------------
brandon frye
http://www.myspace.com/tha_villes_illest_kixxx

Dneilz

April 15th, 2010, 07:00 AM

I really have a difficult time in thinking that Ron has anything to do with this. I know many of you feel differently. He is either a very very good actor, or is a truly grieving father.

YouTube- HALEIGH CUMMINGS 911 CALL - CFLNewschat.com

He just sounds so angry and ready to kill anyone, including musty. At the time of the 911 call I do not (in my opinion) think he knows what happened to his daughter. It is possible that he found out later what happened. I don't know... but at the time of the call, I just..... he seems to be so believable!

I know, I know... I am a suckah! And no, I am not in any way attracted to Ronald. I am allergic to rednecks...they scare the fuck out of me.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 07:07 AM

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-04-14/story/putnam-sheriff-status-haleigh-cummings-case-unchanged

~ snipped

She said he cried as he told her that Overstreet took Haleigh out of the Satsuma trailer where she lived after he was unable to find a machine gun the two men were going to steal. Overstreet put a knife to the throat of Misty Croslin, then Haleigh’s father’s girlfriend, and took Haleigh, Hollars said she was told.

A MACHINE GUN???? WTF???

Oh poor wee HaLeigh, what kind of insanity did this child have to live with??

By the way, ALL posts have been awesome, I have no THANKS left ~ DD rocks!!!

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 07:10 AM

GRANDMAAAAAAA.... CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/tommy11.jpg

LMAO, was on SM tee-hee :hello:

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 07:17 AM

http://wokv.com/localnews/2010/04/haleigh-cummings-search-resume.html

Local News
Haleigh Cummings: Search Resumes Thursday
By
Rich Jones, News Director
@ April 15, 2010 6:06 AM Permalink | Comments (0)

A search of the St. Johns River is expected to continue for a third day. Cops in Putnam County still are not saying what exactly they're looking for, but they've found nothing of value.
Last evening, Misty Croslin was taken from jail to the search location, but it's unclear what information she was able to provide.

We also know that cops questioned Misty's cousin in Tennessee.

Joe Overstreet tells our news partner Channel 4 he's told cops everything he knows, and he denies any involvement in Haleigh's disappearance.

Overstreet was in Putnam County last February, and returned to Tennessee shortly after the girl's disappearance.

To date, no one has been arrested in connection with Haleigh's disappearance.

We'll continue to monitor developments as the search for information into Haleigh's disappearance continues.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 07:18 AM

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100415/ARTICLES/4151051/1002

Underwater search is no easy task

By Lise Fisher
Staff writer

Published: Thursday, April 15, 2010 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Thursday, April 15, 2010 at 1:30 a.m.

( page of 2 )

A water search is difficult for investigators, who must contend with visibility problems and safety issues as they hunt for clues underwater, an officer with the Alachua County Sheriff's Office said.

Capt. Don Tyson was in charge of that law enforcement agency's dive team for more than 25 years. During his time with the team, it searched for drowning victims and evidence as small as shell casings.

Tyson and the local Sheriff's Office are not involved in the ongoing search in the Haleigh Cummings case. Several North Florida agencies - including the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission and underwater searchers from sheriff's offices in Clay and Duval counties - are participating in the hunt.

Investigators have not said what they are searching for in the St. Johns River near Shell Harbour Road, about five miles south of Haleigh's Satsuma home.
Tyson called a water search more difficult than one on land. Searchers may use sonar to try and look for certain areas to concentrate the hunt and then conduct a grid-by-grid search of the location.

"We build in a lot of overlap in our searching" so divers still can locate even a small piece of evidence, he said.

The natural decomposition of a body in the water adds to problems in locating human remains in a waterway. Add in the impact of marine life and boating traffic and the problems intensify.

"It's a very, very difficult task to try and find remains," Tyson said

Underwater search is no easy task.
A water search is difficult for investigators, who must contend with visibility problems and safety issues as they hunt for clues underwater, an officer with the Alachua County Sheriff's Office said.

Capt. Don Tyson was in charge of that law enforcement agency's dive team for more than 25 years. During his time with the team, it searched for drowning victims and evidence as small as shell casings.

Tyson and the local Sheriff's Office are not involved in the ongoing search in the Haleigh Cummings case. Several North Florida agencies - including the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission and underwater searchers from sheriff's offices in Clay and Duval counties - are participating in the hunt.

Investigators have not said what they are searching for in the St. Johns River near Shell Harbour Road, about five miles south of Haleigh's Satsuma home.

Tyson called a water search more difficult than one on land. Searchers may use sonar to try and look for certain areas to concentrate the hunt and then conduct a grid-by-grid search of the location.

"We build in a lot of overlap in our searching" so divers still can locate even a small piece of evidence, he said.

The natural decomposition of a body in the water adds to problems in locating human remains in a waterway. Add in the impact of marine life and boating traffic and the problems intensify.

"It's a very, very difficult task to try and find remains," Tyson said.

A van with the University of Florida's C.A. Pound Human Identification Laboratory was at the search site Tuesday. A Sheriff's Office spokesman said it was being kept on standby in case it was needed. A representative for the laboratory referred questions Wednesday to the Sheriff's Office.

Factors working against investigators can be the water's visibility, its currents, and safety concerns.

Visibility is always an issue in water, Tyson said, not necessarily due to the available light but the turbidity.

The depth and movement of the water must be considered. "There is a lot of flow to the river," Tyson said.

And divers hunting on the bottom of the water must worry about their safety even as they try to remain alert for evidence. Even on a warm day and in shallow water, there are limits to a diver's endurance as they are exposed to the cooler water and breathing compressed air, Tyson said.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has called the current search "meticulous."

"You need to have it organized and have different teams with the same mission," so searchers remain fresh and at their best for hunting for evidence, Tyson said. "You don't want to wear people out."

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 08:37 AM

New Haleigh Search Area Named Crime Scene
Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:06:40 AM

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/15/new_haleigh_search_area_named_crime_scene.html

Damm, as much as I don't want to ------

I owe, I owe, so off to work I go,,,,,

Although I will be sitting on pins and needles hoping this is the day Mildrewy and Company go down and we will finally hear what really happened to that darling child. Top of the morning to you all and see you later :hello:

witzah

April 15th, 2010, 11:59 AM

Brown said he believes the Putnam County Sheriff's Office knows who is responsible for Haleigh's disappearance. He also said that people will probably not be surprised when it is finally revealed who is responsible for Haleigh's disappearance, and it's possible that more than one person may face charges connected to the case.

"I personally thing that they have probable cause, but the problem is, it's one thing to have probable cause to make an arrest, it is something else to have enough probable cause to make the case when it goes to court. They are being careful, which is the right thing to do."

http://www.news4jax.com/news/23147800/detail.html

Perhaps a minor issue - but every time I read this dude's quote it peeves me.

There is only ONE standard used for "probable cause" - probable cause doesn't change from an arrest to charges being issued. It's the same standard of proof, and is the second lowest/easiest burden to meet in the law (second only to reasonable suspicion).

What he MEANS to say (and is important for us to note as we await news on charges getting filed against SOMEONE) is that he believes there's probable cause for an arrest, but the standard/burden is raised when it comes to prosecutors filing charges - as charges can only be filed when a prosecutor feels that there is a "reasonable likelihood of conviction" should the case proceed to trial. The significance of that is that charges won't be filed until prosecutors are comfortable they will/can win.

At this point, I think it's clear all the info surrounding this latest search has NOT been released . . . however, it's also clear that there are tons of questions and tons of scenarios/hypos we are floating around regarding the WHY and the HOW - let alone the WHO. When charges get filed (if they ever do, & i sure hope they do) we will know those questions are sufficiently answered.

Can't wait - on pins & needles with this one.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 12:29 PM

Thanks for that great post Dr. Witz,,,,missed you so much,,glad to see you:hello:

This was on SM,

this transcript was on NG's show- haven't seen any links to it yet. From WS
--------------------------
Letter Misty wrote to her relatives

I feel so bad about this s*** you know cause I didn't say it.
I was scare no one now what he said he would do you know that day when he would not go back to the house and he stayed at the story he put me up with a knife and said if I said he would come back and kill me.
He told me at the house he would kill me to so I didn't know what to do. He has a (illegible) raped me you know.
I knew Tommy was coming to get the gun but I didn't know it was gone and that is when Joe got mad.
Tom had walked out and that is when Joe took it.
You know I don't know where Tommy went.
I don't think he did s*** but I know he now.
Joe did they was so f***** up and I mean I don't know how Joe even drove home.
That is why the van has scratch on (illegible) he was so f***** up bad.
That is all for now.
I just wish I knew what he did.
Timmy and Chelsea please right me back as soon as you get this.

NANCY GRACE, HOST: I`m hearing in my ear we are now being joined by bounty hunter out of Sacramento, Leonard Padilla.

Leonard, what do you make of these developments?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, OFFERED TO BAIL MISTY CROSLIN OUT OF JAIL: Well, basically, if we go back to when Misty wrote that letter and then her sister-in-law in Massachusetts forwarded it to me over the weekend, I looked at and I thought to myself --

GRACE: Which letter are you talking about? Which letter are you talking about?

PADILLA: It`s a letter that Misty wrote to her relatives, including her brother Timmy, up in Massachusetts. Where she claims that -- excuse me?

GRACE: I`ve got it right here in my hand. Go ahead.

PADILLA: OK. Where she claims that Joe and Tommy came to the house and that Tommy left and that Joe took the child.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/14/ng.01.html

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 12:30 PM

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=78178247001#/News/Joe+Overstreet+Cries%2C+Denies+Role+in+Haleigh+Dis appearance/50619441001/50624658001/78178247001

I wasn't sure if this second interview with Joe was posted yet, in it he says the police took all of his belongings and checked everything out.

SM

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 12:38 PM

And now we have this,,

http://www.youtube.com/user/Ncnana8

LindsyLPN

LindsyLPN (56 minutes ago)
Yup, me and Tom will be celebriting and going out dancing real soon.
LindsyLPN

LindsyLPN (1 hour ago)
Hard to say, all i know is that Tom is out of there real soon
LindsyLPN

LindsyLPN (15 hours ago)
Tommy is coming home soon

LindsyLPN

LindsyLPN (34 minutes ago)
Tom plans to come home, order some KFC, have a few beers, and have some quiet time.
Ncnana8

Ncnana8 (12 hours ago)
Was it Tommy that finally broke & told this? If so I'm glad, just don't understand why it wasn't told in the beginning, did Ron know? Saw your post on my page about Tommy coming home, I'm glad for your sake but still pissed that this info was with held for so long what about poor HALEIGH??
LindsyLPN

LindsyLPN (15 hours ago)
Tom is a hard sleeper, if he did have something to do with this it's because he was sleep walking.

http://www.youtube.com/user/LindsyLPN

What is the Hell,,is there a "sleepwalking" epidemic in FL, ole crusty CaseOCrabs Anthony used the sleepwalking card too in some of her escapades.

oh yes, Tommy C, do have a beer as soon as you get out, it isn't like you had any problems w/ addiction or anything,,

wow, if wifey Lindsay is buying this bullshit, she must be in a permanent state of sleepwalking!

Echo

April 15th, 2010, 12:40 PM

And now we have this,,

http://www.youtube.com/user/Ncnana8

Im confused. Help!

Rockin Ma

April 15th, 2010, 12:48 PM

Joe Overstreet is Misty Croslin's cousin. Overstreet, who lives in Tennessee, says he was in Florida when the little girl disappeared. The 20-year-old is speaking out about the allegations that he was involved in Haleigh's disappearance.

"Disgusted. I don't know. I can't say nothing about it. I want to say something, but I don’t know what to say," said Overstreet.

Overstreet's grandmother is the one who called deputies after her other grandson Tommy Croslin called her from the St. Johns County Jail on Sunday and told her that Overstreet took Haleigh from her home.

Investigators say Haleigh's dad Ronald Cummings and Overstreet got into a fight over a gun just days before Haleigh disappeared. That tip led investigators to search the Saint Johns River in Putnam County. Divers are back in the river today, for the 3rd day in a row.

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpps/news/dpgos-misty-croslin-cousin-questioned-in-haleigh-cummings-case-fc-20100415_7078681

Can someone tell me if this is fact?

MadmamainNC

April 15th, 2010, 12:53 PM

this transcript was on NG's show- haven't seen any links to it yet. From WS
--------------------------
Letter Misty wrote to her relatives

I feel so bad about this s*** you know cause I didn't say it.
I was scare no one now what he said he would do you know that day when he would not go back to the house and he stayed at the story he put me up with a knife and said if I said he would come back and kill me.
He told me at the house he would kill me to so I didn't know what to do. He has a (illegible) raped me you know.
I knew Tommy was coming to get the gun but I didn't know it was gone and that is when Joe got mad.
Tom had walked out and that is when Joe took it.
You know I don't know where Tommy went.
I don't think he did s*** but I know he now.
Joe did they was so f***** up and I mean I don't know how Joe even drove home.
That is why the van has scratch on (illegible) he was so f***** up bad.
That is all for now.
I just wish I knew what he did.
Timmy and Chelsea please right me back as soon as you get this.

Reading this unintelligible drivel makes me respect Casey Anthony for her articulate and well versed letters. I really am not mentally nor emotionally able to handle that realization.
Can we have a warning before post like these? :proud2:

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 12:53 PM

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2010/04/haleigh-cummings-case-now-homicide-investigation/

Haleigh Cummings’ Case Now Homicide Investigation
Thursday, April 15, 2010

JACKSONVILLE, FL (WFLX) - New developments in the hunt for Haleigh Cummings. The missing person’s case is now a homicide investigation.

Investigators, searching the St. John’s River, found a blue cooler, but, at this point, we don’t know anything about it’s contents.

Meantime, Misty Croslin’s cousin, the last person to see Haleigh alive, has hired a lawyer. Croslin’s cousin, Joe Overstreet, moved from Florida to Tennessee shortly after Haleigh vanished. Overstreet was just questioned by police for a third time.

The grandmother, who lives in Tennessee, says she’s heard two scenarios of what happened the night Haleigh disappeared. She also talked about how she really feels about all the family members in this case. “Regardless of what they done, I will always love them — no more, no less. But if you do something like that to a little girl. I’m not going to handle that,” said Annette Sykes.

Meanwhile, forensics experts say, whatever evidence was found, it could take weeks to determine what it is. SOURCE: FOX 29 NEWS FLORIDA Apr 15, 2010 10:30 AM EDT

continued...

here is the source link:

http://www.wflx.com/Global/story.asp?S=12316652

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 01:03 PM

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpps/news/dpgos-misty-croslin-cousin-questioned-in-haleigh-cummings-case-fc-20100415_7078681

Can someone tell me if this is fact?

Yup, Rockin,,,see for yourself, here's Grandma Hollar flapping her toothless gums!

(Flora Hollars is Lisa Croslin mama)

MadmamainNC

April 15th, 2010, 01:08 PM

update from my source.

Joe Overstreet is still under investigation. Just not enough evidence yet. This isn't coming from the news and I can't reveal her source.

edited..lol

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 01:12 PM

Sorry Madmama,,I'll give a warning next time LOL..I guess dealing w/ the Scamthony Coven has made me immune to all types of lunacy :dong:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/4/15/new_haleigh_search_area_named_crime_scene.html

New Haleigh Search Area Named Crime Scene
Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:21:07 AM

Reported by Janelle Jordan

SATSUMA -- Investigators said an area of the St. Johns River where they have been searching for Haleigh Cummings is being considered a crime scene.

Misty Croslin, the last person to see Haleigh alive, has been seen near the search area. Authorities said she has been talking with investigators.

Haleigh was 5 years old when she disappeared from her family’s home in February 2009.

The search for the missing girl intensified during the last week after the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office said it received a “credible new tip,” Sheriff Jeff Hardy would not say what the lead is, or what he told Haleigh’s family.

News 13 learned Wednesday through a source close to the investigation that an arrest could come soon.

The source also told News 13 that Misty, the ex-wife of Haleigh’s father, Ronald Cummings, has been working closely with investigators.

In addition, Misty’s cousin, Joe Overstreet, was question for a third time in the investigation.

Overstreet lives in Tennessee, but was in Florida the night Haleigh disappeared. The FBI questioned him days later, but investigators have not said what his relation to the investigation may be.

MadmamainNC

April 15th, 2010, 01:17 PM

Sorry Madmama,,I'll give a warning next time LOL..I guess dealing w/ the Scamthony Coven has made me immune to all types of lunacy :dong:

We should come up with a witty content warning...

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 01:18 PM

Gossip on SM,,,very interesting, nonetheless,,,

If you monkeys recall at one point I mentioned that I have a family member in Palatka who owns a business. We were speaking on the phone last night and "person" told me they had rented to Timmy and Chelsea and Joe was staying with them. As you know they moved to Mass. after Haleigh went missing. "person" told me that they packed up in the middle of the night and left and that sometimes the van was parked in "persons" driveway". The rest of the info I have places Ron at a certain place at a certain time and that he had a gun and he was desparate. Hours later Haleigh went missing. I will be so glad when more comes out, then I can fill in the details. The FBI has had this info for sometime now. "person stated that Ron is a person to be feared. Having myself lived in fear for several years I know what it can do to people. Personally I think the main players have been covering for him out of fear. I also believe this tragedy was brought on by Ron's activities.

:questionmark::questionmark::questionmark:

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 01:19 PM

ABC video report:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/haleigh-cummings-search-10381457

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 01:22 PM

update from my source.

Joe Overstreet is still under investigation. Just not enough evidence yet. This isn't coming from the news and I can't reveal her source.

edited..lol

WOW,,Madmama,,very interesting and I'm in awe and just a little bit jealous you have a "source"!!! Please keep us informed!!!

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 02:03 PM

Posted on SM,

HLN said a few minutes ago that PCSO may be holding a presser this afternoon.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 02:05 PM

LindsyLPN

LindsyLPN (56 minutes ago)
Yup, me and Tom will be celebriting and going out dancing real soon.
LindsyLPN

LindsyLPN (1 hour ago)
Hard to say, all i know is that Tom is out of there real soon
LindsyLPN

LindsyLPN (15 hours ago)
Tommy is coming home soon

http://www.youtube.com/user/Ncnana8
it's fake
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Its a fake,,good, I thought that Lindsey done lost her mind!

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 02:09 PM

# HLN's Natisha Lance just reported she is hearing reports LE rumored to be having a news conference this afternoon , she hopes to confirm.
10 minutes ago via TweetDeck
http://twitter.com/RadioNewz

SM

Sister Iroz

April 15th, 2010, 02:25 PM

Last weekend, a grandmother said, she had to decide which of her grandsons to believe about what happened to Haleigh Cummings.

The first grandson, Hank “Tommy” Croslin Jr., called from jail saying his cousin entered the Satsuma trailer with a knife that night in February 2009 and left with 5-year-old Haleigh.

The other, Joseph Overstreet, says he’s sorry for what the family is going through but swears he didn’t hurt the girl.

Ultimately, Flo Hollars says, she immediately called authorities, spurring a revived search for Haleigh and a quick trip by Putnam County detectives to Nashville, Tenn., to interview Overstreet.

Hollars, 67, said she told Croslin Jr. she wanted the truth when he called her from jail, where the 23-year-old is being held on unrelated drug charges.

She said he cried as he told her that Overstreet took Haleigh out of the Satsuma trailer where she lived after he was unable to find a machine gun the two men were going to steal. Overstreet put a knife to the throat of Misty Croslin, then Haleigh’s father’s girlfriend, and took Haleigh, Hollars said she was told.

She said it was the wife of another Croslin sibling who told her where to search in the waterway and woods off County Road 309 about five miles from where Haleigh was last seen in Satsuma.

Hollars said she called an investigator in Putnam County Sunday night with the information.

On Wednesday, Overstreet sat in a Nashville office, next to his attorney and his mother, and defended himself against those allegations at a news conference.

Mostly, his lawyer fielded the questions and Overstreet sat quietly, occasionally clenching and unclenching his jaw. But when asked how he was handling the impact of the allegations, the 20-year-old Overstreet dropped his head and sobbed.

“I’ve lost a lot of family,” he said, before the tears overwhelmed him.

His attorney, Shawn Sirgo, put his hand on his shoulder.

“At his age, to be accused of such a horrendous act and be given no support, it’s disgusting,” Sirgo said. “It’s appalling.”

...

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-04-14/story/putnam-sheriff-status-haleigh-cummings-case-unchanged

thequeenofsorrow

April 15th, 2010, 02:30 PM

I know it's been over a year but somehow I still thought there was a small small chance that haleigh was still alive. Damn. Homicide investigation.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 02:45 PM

Sorry if already posted,,this is BB12's latest blog,,,,I don't know, she usually has some good info, but some of this seems a liitle off.....

http://lnk.ms/6TBWw

thequeenofsorrow

April 15th, 2010, 02:48 PM

Ugh I was looking at one of the orginial articles back in Feb 09

"She's a 17-year-old child herself and so ... we have to be very sensitive to who she is and what she is," said Bowling, volunteering that the investigation was not focused on Croslin.

Ughhhh yes Misty was quite a 17 year old... shit..

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 03:00 PM

This was posted on SM,

Just saw that there will be a 4 o'clock press conference.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 03:58 PM

This may be a link to the presser @ 4 PM,,hopefully it is on here, if will keep checking for one,

http://www.news4jax.com/video/15505198/index.html

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 04:01 PM

It's on now!!

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 04:21 PM

Some info from presser,,

HaLeigh Angel is ,most likely deceased, it is now a homicide investigation.

The "Tip" did NOT come from Tenn.,,people had time to think and are now talking.

Would not name names at this time,,but there are now "several" people of interest.

I Think they found something there (but I'm a liitle fuzzy on that, couldn't hear cause of coppers),,search ends at 6 tonight.

""Misty is in ALOT of trouble"...quoting the Sheriff,,,

There's more, so I'll post what else I find.

darkthnker

April 15th, 2010, 04:42 PM

http://www.wesh.com/news/23163930/detail.html

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 04:44 PM

Items HAVE been recovered, sent to several independent labs for analysis. Persons of interest HAVE been identified.

There has been NO plea bargain.

Getting ready to wrap up today (6 PM) ... going to continue to run with the info they have from the lead. They will shut the search site down at that time.

Working diligently to go forward with this case.

Joe is not revealing anything......has lawyered up.

Sent the evidence they found to be analyzed.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 04:51 PM

Sheriff: 'Haleigh Likely Deceased'
Sheriff's Office Has Identified Persons Of Interest

POSTED: Thursday, April 15, 2010
UPDATED: 4:16 pm EDT April 15, 2010

WJXT

SATSUMA, Fla. -- Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy announced Thursday afternoon that new information in the search for Haleigh Cummings has lead investigators to believe the missing girl is dead.

Hardy said crews have been searching the St. Johns River, around five miles from the trailer that Haleigh disappeared from in February 2009, for three days. He said the crews have obtained items, but it is not known if they are related to the investigation.

Hardy said the search was prompted by new information obtained from interviews, but he declined to name anyone specifically.

"The specific details of this information cannot and will not be released at this time," Hardy said.

Hardy said although no one is in custody related to Haleigh's disappearance, investigators have honed in on persons of interest.

The case is now being investigated as a homicide, Hardy said.

The last person to see Haleigh, her baby-sitter, Misty Croslin, was taken to the search site Wednesday afternoon. She is in jail on unrelated charges, but was seen speaking to investigators at the site wearing a blue jumpsuit and shackles.

Hardy said investigators will conclude the river search on Thursday, but that does not mean they are abandoning the investigation into the newly obtained information.

Watch Local 6 for more information.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23163877/detail.html

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 05:00 PM

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7184.0;attach=1363 0;image

The family that get stoned together, murders together.

RIP HaLeigh :...(

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 05:11 PM

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/041510-Haleigh-Cummings-case

video of presser at link.

Sheriff: Haleigh most likely deceased

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The investigation into the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings was deemed a homicide by Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy on Thursday.

Hardy said during a news conference that detectives have identified persons of interest in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings. It was the first time the sheriff has suggested that Haleigh was dead.

PHOTO GALLERY: Tip leads to new search in Cummings Case >>>

Haleigh was last seen 14 months ago. Misty Croslin was the last person to see her.

Joe Overstreet is Misty Croslin's cousin. Overstreet, who lives in Tennessee, says he was in Florida when the little girl disappeared. The 20-year-old is speaking out about the allegations that he was involved in Haleigh's disappearance.

"Disgusted. I don't know. I can't say nothing about it. I want to say something, but I don’t know what to say," said Overstreet.

Overstreet's grandmother is the one who called deputies after her other grandson Tommy Croslin called her from the St. Johns County Jail on Sunday and told her that Overstreet took Haleigh from her home.

Investigators say Haleigh's dad Ronald Cummings and Overstreet got into a fight over a gun just days before Haleigh disappeared. That tip led investigators to search the Saint Johns River.

Dakota Valkyrie

April 15th, 2010, 05:11 PM

From darkthnker's link

The sheriff said he believes Misty Cummings holds the key to the case.

"People are starting to cooperate. That's why I've told people it's just going to be a matter of time," Hardy said. "We're going to accept any cooperation we can get."

Holds the key? As in "knows who" or "is who" did it???

Chaindrive

April 15th, 2010, 05:25 PM

"Persons" of interest. Interesting.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 05:51 PM

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/6814812.php

PutnamCounty
Sheriff'sOffice

JeffHardy, Sheriff

Media Release
April 15, 2010

At approximately 4:00 pm, Sheriff Jeff Hardy made a formal statement regarding the Haleigh Cummings Investigation. A synopsis of the statement is as follows:

Three days ago the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, assisted by divers from surrounding counties began a diligent search of the waterway and wooded area around the Shell Harbor Boat Ramp. The search is the result of information obtained during interviews in the Haleigh Cummings case. Items have been recovered at the search site, but at this point it is not known if these items are related to the Haleigh Cummings investigation. All items located during this search will be forwarded to several independent labs for analysis.

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office has received numerous inquiries regarding the status of this investigation, specifically if this is a missing person investigation or a homicide investigation. Over the past few weeks information has been obtained by investigators that lead them to believe Haleigh Cummings is most likely deceased. The specific details of this information cannot be released at this time.

There have been rumors spreading that a suspect has been taken into custody as the result of this investigation. This rumor is not true. However, the investigative team has identified persons of interest in this case.

Rhoni

April 15th, 2010, 06:48 PM

[QUOTE]There have been rumors spreading that a suspect has been taken into custody as the result of this investigation. This rumor is not true /QUOTE]

Nice wording there...Not taken into custody. That's because they or he/she is already in custody...

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 07:45 PM

HUGE report on what we already know w/photos AND dozens of links to past reports
http://www.news4jax.com/news/23160821/detail.html

FYI

Saffron

April 15th, 2010, 08:44 PM

Ok, it seems that Nancy Grace seems to think they put her in the water ALIVE and then tied a cinder block to her and drowned her? That's worse than anything I've ever imagined.

Whisper

April 15th, 2010, 08:46 PM

Sheriff: Haleigh case a homicide investigation
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/15/haleigh.cummings.search/index.html

just in case anyone missed the pressor

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 08:51 PM

There is something on my mind and it has me baffled, many some of you can share your thoughts on this,,

Am I old, or is dick that good???

Now I know drugs are good (?), I'm not too old to remember how it was truly great to get fucked-up sometimes, if that's your thing, but in these circumstances what high could be that good?

I cannot understand WHY Cuntlapper Anthony, cold bloodily killed her daughter, then STAYED laid up w/ TonE for 31 days, she had stolen money, why the hell didn't she get out of Dodge? :vroam: Was the dick and the weed that good?

And now we have this inbred twatlet, Muddy Crosbred Cumsucker, who is directly involved in dear HaLeigh's demise, shebeast had 14 months to hit the bricks. She was traveling the countryside with her cunt-buddy Dummy Brock. She was in NYC, in Tenn., and most likely elsewhere, why didn't she disappear into the night?? I'm sure she knew how to use her well worn booty to get some cash- - - - - -but NO, she goes right back to the 'hood and gets busy with RummyRon and the pills. I can't in my wildest imagination think that Ronbo's dick was worth prison time.

I don't want to come off as an old fossil but I am MISTYfied by these actions,,,maybe these days a good dick is hard to find.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 08:57 PM

Art Harris said this on JVM tonite, posted on SM,

Now AH is saying the murder weapon was a rope.

Dneilz

April 15th, 2010, 09:00 PM

OMG... nancy grace.

Rope and brick. That thought makes me want to cry. :(

Dneilz

April 15th, 2010, 09:01 PM

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 09:03 PM

Joe Overstreet speaking highly of his Grammy Hollars, posted on SM,

Wow how will Joe handle what his Nanny said? What did Joe say to her after the interview? Anybody catch it?

He called her "f"in lyin ho....but said it in complete words

A gentleman, indeed. :eviltongue:

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 09:07 PM

On nancy grace I think they said that she was attached to a rope which had a brick on the other end...and she was dumped. Fucking Assholes. How could they? Such a little frail girl who was so so innocent.

I hate them.

OH D, there are no words for the scum of the earth that they are, I am hoping with all my heart she wasn't alive when they did this unspeakable act,,did they say if she was??? and WHY?????? OMG, this is too much,,,

Saffron

April 15th, 2010, 09:17 PM

Nancy Grace said at one point that they put her in the water to drown and that they had tied the rope and cinder block to her and threw it in the water. It's just unimaginable. I can't imagine it now when I'm almost 40, I can't imagine doing or being a witness to such a thing when I was 16. :(

Dneilz

April 15th, 2010, 09:21 PM

OH D, there are no words for the scum of the earth that they are, I am hoping with all my heart she wasn't alive when they did this unspeakable act,,did they say if she was??? and WHY?????? OMG, this is too much,,,
It is true Groov.... they say she was attached to a rope with a cinder block at the other end and dumped. I don't know if she was alive.... just devastating news. I would have preferred the drug overdose story. :(

Rhoni

April 15th, 2010, 09:36 PM

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 09:38 PM

It is true Groov.... they say she was attached to a rope with a cinder block at the other end and dumped. I don't know if she was alive.... just devastating news. I would have preferred the drug overdose story. :(

Saffy,,you are so right, it is unimaginable, I can't even wrap my mind around this.

Dneilz, my sweet friend, it's a sad day indeed, when we agree that if they killed her w/ drugs it would be better,,and it's so true at least she would have had some mercy. mutated monsters, heartless beasts,,,,if this is true,,they better build a special jail for the "persons of interest" cause they ain't gonna last too long before the beatdowns begin....inmates loath baby killers.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 09:47 PM

Why did I have to read that...WHY!!?? How could anyone do something so horrible to another person especially a little child.. Oh My God I am seriously sick to my stomach now. Words can't even begin to describe how I feel reading that...Maybe mix getting hit in the stomach by a Bulldozer and having my heart ripped out of my chest...That comes close but still doesn't quite describe this feeling...How could they... FUCK!!

Her poor mother. No mother should ever have to hear something like this...Fucking Monsters...

Oh my lord Rhoni, I didn't think about that. I don't think there could be any thing worse in the world to hear how Your Darling Ray of Sunshine, HaLeigh, was so horrible treated by these wastes of humanity. On top of the total HELL they have putting her through these last 14 months, being under suspicion herself and her entire family, now she has to hear this,,,my heart bleeds for Crystal. And her journey has just begun, now a whole different phase for her, prosecuting the Cretins that did this.

Dneilz

April 15th, 2010, 09:51 PM

If I were Crystal, I would by a gun and I would shoot the mother fuckers. Seriously. And yes, my life would be worth it.

I still don't think Ronald had anything to do with it, friends.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 09:56 PM

This is from JVM tonight,,someone on the panel (I'll post his name later, he was the private eye for Natalie Holloway's mom, he must be investigating HaLeigh's case now) anyway he said Misty told him there was deer blood in the van, I guess LE found that early in the investigation,,so this post on SM states why,

Is new info on JVM and ng is too much to take. The speculation of them putting deer blood on the body so the alligators would take her quicker...the rope as murder weapon etc. If they did this the only justice suitable for these monsters is for them to be put to death in the same exact manner.

Sorry just sick over hearing these things and my anger and disgust at misty and whoever helped her is overwhelming. Bottom line, she is the one they had at the dock so she knows. She is guilty.

I don't know if we can handle what we are about to hear in this case, but we will for HaLeigh,,sweet little thing.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 10:02 PM

This may be confusing, it is to me,,,,

Grandma Hollars is on NG tonight and she has a new version of what happened. i didn't watch NG yet,,maybe I'll check it out, but anyway from SM,

FH cannot tell NG who in Florida told her that MC hit HaLeigh in the head with a piece of wood or something like that.

Well we can see where MC got not being able to keep her stories straight.
second version--MC knocked her in the head and killed her, JO and Tommy threw her into the water WTH is going on here.

BBL

Rhoni

April 15th, 2010, 10:06 PM

This is from JVM tonight,,someone on the panel (I'll post his name later, he was the private eye for Natalie Holloway's mom, he must be investigating HaLeigh's case now) anyway he said Misty told him there was deer blood in the van, I guess LE found that early in the investigation,,so this post on SM states why,

I don't know if we can handle what we are about to hear in this case, but we will for HaLeigh,,sweet little thing.

Groovy I don't know if I can hear/read anymore. Yet I keep coming back. She was a CHILD a baby... If they had a problem with ron why didn't they kill ron or misty...A baby how could you do something so HORRIBLE...Lord, please forgive me for the thought I am having right now and for the things I am wishing on these monsters.... Fucking cowards

Rhoni

April 15th, 2010, 10:12 PM

This may be confusing, it is to me,,,,

Grandma Hollars is on NG tonight and she has a new version of what happened. i didn't watch NG yet,,maybe I'll check it out, but anyway from SM,

BBL

Not that I wish any kind of death on Haleigh but I would much prefer this version to the other... I know how that may sound but I feel like at least it is quicker ... I hope you guys understand what I am trying to say. I had a very good friend drown when I was younger. Another friend was there and tried to help... It's a horrible memory and I can't stand the thought of anyone dying by drowning. No matter what they (whoever they are) say it is NOT fast...

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 10:14 PM

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7592.0;attach=1363 4;image

A rope knife is used to cut rigging and ropes...for sailing.

MrLucky917

@Whereishaleigh It's a duel weapon called a ropeknife or a kniferope 2 minutes ago via web in reply to Whereishaleigh
this is getting ridiculous there actually is such a thing and it is used by sailors
http://www.amazon.com/Mora-Craftline-Serrated-Blade-Knife/dp/B002PNH8AU

Now what is Hell's Bells is this, now they are saying on SM (no other verification on this right now) that they are looking for, or she was killed with rope knife.

And I know Rhoni,,I know I have to get away from horrific case but my mind is racing and I can't pull myself away. They are also saying there are new pictures of HaLeigh on NG tonight and she is absolutely beautiful, now I don't think I can watch NG, thinking of what they did that angel.

groovy135

April 15th, 2010, 10:22 PM

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=115522048473642&id=387068190642

Criminal Profiler Pat Brown Unless Joe Overstreet were to confess to murder, there is nothing to link him to the crime except two people who can't pass a polygraph.

thefatmom

April 15th, 2010, 10:27 PM

One of my lovely friends on here brought up the idea that maybe they killed her to get money Like cum dumpster Anthony. Since the croslin inbreds are so odd to begin with.... I wouldn't doubt it. I bet they were all fucked up that night came up with the plan and carried it out. They probably thought nobody would care enough to spend the time to find out what happened. They needed more drug money to expand the habbit. Just another theory.

Its sad that these two precious princesses died at the hand of selfish monkies. I hate them!

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 10:44 PM

myra manes

April 15th, 2010, 11:33 PM

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Bunch of fucking in-bred freaks ..
Poor Haleigh ..

MC30

April 15th, 2010, 11:47 PM

idk why i find this relevant
YouTube- Three Blind Mice (the whole story) - scary cartoon

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 12:36 AM

ya wanna know what just came to me? What IF...musty and tommy got joe fucked up and took him along for the ride? had him touch stuff ect, but he doesn't remember. and know as their get out of jail free card, he is goin' under the bus? not that i have any love for any of these stupid fuckheads....just a thought.

i just have a hard time believing g-maw floppy face. she likes being on tv...you can tell.

HAHAHA

momma, you may be on something, I wouldn't put anything past those Croslin shysters..they are both long time street-wise predators, they could have set-up dim witted cousin Joe, with the intent to blame him if they got caught. When Misty Mental Lights (haha Echo), took her smoke reeking ass to Tenn. after her divorce, she went to stay w/ Gumby Hollar for two weeks. Not exactly scared of Cousin Joe who lived around there. She better take another hit off the crackpipe and hit herself upside the head w/ a board,,maybe it will fix her drug infested brain long enough to tell us something believable.

Here's the link that addresses the deer blood,

About the deer blood, Misty said, "There was deer blood in the back (referring to the van) from when my brother shot and killed a deer. I can't tell you what kind of blood it was. I am just telling you there was deer blood." <--- around 16 minute mark.

The LVA is at: http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1231220760#/Misty+Cummings+Reveals+Her+Suspicions+in+Voice+Ana lysis+Test/49303112001

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 12:45 AM

Lookie Loo here,,,a lot of people suspect Granny No Teeth is spinning yarns so she can collect the reward money, and then this was posted over at SM,

nobody

Williamsburg, VA

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Copied from the "other" haleigh thread - the missing girl one here in Orlando forums, just posted.

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No one need to beleive Flora Hollars.She is my grandmother
to. She has been wanting to on Tv with all of this since it has happen..She is a very selfish person that want alot of attention..People form Flordia is giving her money left and right so of course she is going to try and point finger.. She will tell Joe oh baby i no your didnt do that the ones in Flordia is just trying and blame you..Then she will tell The Croslin family that she thinks Joe done it.. She just wants people to keep sending her money and keep hvaing the attention..Why she would want this kind of attention no one will ever no...She will lie her way into anything..Dont beleive her because her story will change just like Misty and Tommy's.
Thanks Kayla(Joe's sister and Flora Hollars granddaughter..)

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/orlando-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/p3425

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 12:50 AM

More from Kayla, Joe's sister,,,

Kayla

Nashville, TN

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Joe didnt take Haleigh yall will all relize that when the truth comes out..Misty is the biggest lying that think she is fooling everyone..Misty is guilty and everyone will see that..what have yall heard about a brick and a rope i havent heard anything like that..

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/orlando-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/p3425

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 01:01 AM

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=154830&catid=3

Haleigh Cummings' Grandmother Annette Sykes: 'We Stilll Have a lot of Faith'

Taren Reed Created: 4/15/2010 10:03:14 PM Updated: 4/15/2010 10:35:43 PM

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Haleigh Cummings' grandmother said she will continue to pray for Haleigh's safe return until police can prove the 5-year-old is no longer alive. Today, Sheriff Jeff Hardy said in a news conference police believe Haleigh is dead.

"We still have a lot of faith," Annette Sykes said.

Police gave the family the news Tuesday and in the days since, they have watched the St. Johns River search on TV and were surprised to see Misty Croslin led to the site.

Police said Croslin is the last person known to have seen Haleigh.

Okay Grandma Sykes, what kind of pills have you been popping, all the Oxies and Roxies that are now available because the biggest users are in the Grey Bar Palace now. Doesn't she watch the news? To have faith is good but with all this news, she has to face reality IMO.

OMG,,where have we heard this kind of talk before? She must attend the Sindy Scamthoy School of Denial!!!

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 01:03 AM

NANCY GRACE Transcripts

Sheriff Says Haleigh Investigation Now Homicide

Aired April 15, 2010 - 20:00:00 ET

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/15/ng.01.html

Rhoni

April 16th, 2010, 01:37 AM

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OMG,,where have we heard this kind of talk before? She must attend the Sindy Scamthoy School of Denial!!![/QUOTE]

:pound::hail::nod: hahahahaha can't stop laughing I ♥ you Groovy

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 01:55 AM

GRANDMA – FLORA HOLLARS

Part One

Nancy Grace – April 15, 2010-04-15

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Which would explain the lack of any blood or DNA evidence there in the home where she was last seen alive. We are taking your calls live.

But joining me right now is a very special guest joining us tonight in a primetime exclusive. With us tonight is Misty Croslin`s grandmother. It is also Joe Overstreet`s grandmother. It is Ms. Flora Hollars joining us out of West Nashville, Tennessee. Ms. Hollars, thank you for being with us.

FLORA HOLLARS, MISTY`S AND JOE`S GRANDMOTHER: You`re very much welcome.

GRACE: Number one, Ms. Hollars, let me tell you that not only myself but my staff have become very attached to little Haleigh and have been praying for her and thinking of her ever since we learned that she had disappeared, and our thoughts have been with you and the family.

HOLLARS: I pray for her every night.

GRACE: Ms. Hollars, tell me about Joe Overstreet. Repeatedly, Misty Croslin has referred to him as being responsible for Haleigh`s disappearance. You have been around him from this -- throughout this entire time. How has his behavior changed since he came back from Florida when Haleigh disappeared?

HOLLARS: His reactions are completely different than it was before he went down there. He`s not the same kid that he was when we went down there. He has a different attitude toward life and all. He just don`t care.

GRACE: Ms. Hollars, how does he react when you come into the room wearing a Haleigh T-shirt?

HOLLARS: Well, it`s my daughter that normally comes into the room wearing one, and he`ll normally turn around and walk out.

GRACE: Has he ever talked to you about the night Haleigh went missing?

HOLLARS: No, ma`am.

GRACE: Have you asked him?

HOLLARS: Not really.

GRACE: Why?

HOLLARS: He just throws his hands up and says, "F" it, and then he`ll get up and walk away.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/15/ng.01.html

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 01:56 AM

GRANDMA – FLORA HOLLARS

Part Two

Nancy Grace – April 15, 2010-04-15

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Did Tommy Croslin call you from behind bars? And if so, what did he say?

FLORA HOLLARS, MISTY`S AND JOE`S GRANDMOTHER:: He told me he was crying. And he says, Nanny, I`ve got to break down. I`ve got to tell somebody. And I told him, I says, Tommy, I know in my heart exactly what you`re fixing to say. He says, Nanny, what do you mean? I said, Are you going to tell me that Joe did this? He says, Yes, Nanny, Joe did.

GRACE: Joining us tonight is a very special guest, a guest who has been through hell. With us is Flora Hollars. That`s Misty Croslin and Joe Overstreet`s grandmother.

Ms. Hollars, you have heard now three different versions of what happened the night Haleigh went missing. What is the most recent version you have been told?

HOLLARS: What I was told by Misty this morning was that Tommy and Joe took Haleigh and wrapped a yellow rope around her and carried her to the dock and tied a brick around the bottom -- the other end of the rope and throwed her into the river. Now, that come from Misty`s mouth into my ear.

GRACE: This morning?

HOLLARS: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: Could I ask you why they would have done that? Joe Overstreet and Tommy Croslin, why they would have done that? Had they allegedly molested Haleigh?

HOLLARS: That I don`t know.

GRACE: Why would they just throw her in the water?

HOLLARS: I don`t know. (INAUDIBLE) continue to talk to Misty, she`s going to tell me.

GRACE: OK. What is the second version you were told about Haleigh`s death?

HOLLARS: I was told that Misty had knocked her in the head and killed her and that Joe and Tommy got rid of her.

GRACE: Knocked her in the head with what, a cinderblock?

HOLLARS: No, just a piece of wood or something, is the way that it was put to me. But I didn`t believe that when I heard it.

GRACE: Who told you that?

HOLLARS: It come from one of them in Florida, is all I can say.

GRACE: Did they say why Misty would have struck 5-year-old Haleigh?

HOLLARS: No, they didn`t.

GRACE: OK. Ms. Hollars...

HOLLARS: (INAUDIBLE) overdose.

GRACE: What was the first story you were told about Haleigh`s death?

HOLLARS: First thing that I was told was that Joe had killed her. That was the first words that I was told.

GRACE: Why was -- why did he kill her in the first version?

HOLLARS: That I don`t have any idea. I don`t even know whether she was dead when she hit the water or not.

GRACE: Who told you the first version?

HOLLARS: Oh, that may have came from Misty. I`m not sure.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/15/ng.01.html

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 01:57 AM

GRANDMA – FLORA HOLLARS

Part Three

Nancy Grace – April 15, 2010-04-15

NANCY GRACE, HOST: We are taking your calls live. Before we go to the lines, I want to go back to Ms. Flora Hollars, joining us tonight in a primetime exclusive. This is Misty Croslin and Joe Overstreet`s grandmother. Ms. Hollars, again, thank you for being with us.

FLORA HOLLARS, MISTY`S AND JOE`S GRANDMOTHER: You`re welcome.

GRACE: And my question regarding the three versions you`ve been told -- who knows if any of them are true -- that you were told in each of these scenarios, where was Croslin? In the first scenario, the one that Croslin told you this morning, where was Croslin when everything happened?

HOLLARS: She didn`t tell me that.

GRACE: She just said that Joe Overstreet killed Misty -- killed Haleigh?

HOLLARS: He and Tommy -- she said Joe Overstreet and Tommy wrapped the rope around Haleigh and carried her to the dock at the St. John`s River and put a block around the other end of the rope and throwed her in the river.

GRACE: But what, Ms. Hollars, could be their possible motivation for killing a 5-year-old girl?

HOLLARS: That`s something that I don`t know! There`s three grandkids of mine that`s involved in this, and I don`t know why! But I`d sure like to know why. They have no remorse or something. But nobody decided to say anything until I broke Tommy on the phone Sunday. And yes, I`m the one that called the detectives. And yes, I`m the one that sent them to the river!

GRACE: Well, God bless you. God bless you for finally bringing some peace to this case. I pray to God in heaven that it does. Ms. Hollars...

HOLLARS: I hope so.

GRACE: Ms. Hollars, when Joe -- excuse me -- when Tommy Croslin calls you from the jail crying, what did he say happened?

HOLLARS: He was crying. And I told him, I said, You failed your lie detector test, didn`t you, Tommy? He says, Yes, I did. And I told him, I says, Now it`s time for it to come to a head. I want to know right now. In my heart, I already know. I said, Did Joe do this? He says, Yes, Nanny, Joe did. But he never implicated himself at that time. Misty`s the one that implicated Joe and Tommy.

GRACE: Did Tommy Croslin...

HOLLARS: Misty is coming clean.

GRACE: Did Tommy Croslin tell you what happened, other than he just killed her?

HOLLARS: That`s all he said.

GRACE: I want to remind everyone that according to police, none of the three -- Croslin, Tommy Croslin or Joe Overstreet -- are persons of interest or suspects in Haleigh`s disappearance

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/15/ng.01.html

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 01:59 AM

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/15/ng.01.html
GRANDMA – FLORA HOLLARS

Part Four

Nancy Grace – April 15, 2010-04-15

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Then why, I`m wondering, the dock? The dock? Why would they bring Misty Croslin out to the edge of the dock as she`s pointing out if that were not the spot they used, allegedly -- according to reports, no suspect, no persons of interest -- to throw the child into the water.

Back to our special guest tonight, Flora Hollars. This is Misty Croslin`s and Joe Overstreet`s grandmother. Miss Hollars is joining us out of West Nashville, Tennessee.

Miss Hollars, have police spoken to you? Of course they have because you called them and told them.

FLORA HOLLARS, MISTY CROSLIN AND JOE OVERSTREET`S GRANDMOTHER: I`ve talked to the police in Florida. I`m the one that told the police in Florida where to look at.

GRACE: Miss Hollars, in any -- in any of these scenarios did anybody ever tell Ronald Cummings what happened to his daughter?

HOLLARS: Not that I know of. I don`t think they have. Well, maybe his mom and them the other day when they was at the jail because I`ve talked to them, too.

GRACE: What did they have to say about all of this? Did they believe it?

HOLLARS: Yes, ma`am, they did.

GRACE: Are you still in touch with Misty Croslin, or has the jail cut off her phone access?

HOLLARS: They had cut off my phone access, but they put it back on again this morning so she could call. That`s how I got the information this morning.

GRACE: I see the photo behind you of you and Misty Croslin. Do you think she could have had anything to do with this?

HOLLARS: No, ma`am, I really don`t think she could. Misty`s too good with kids. Misty loves kids. She`s had an opportunity to hurt them all and she`s kept every one of them. I don`t believe Misty had any involvement whatsoever.

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 02:02 AM

OF COURSE!!! here come the Ringmaster to open up this new circus,,,why won't Lenny just butt out,,,there's no Fool like an OLD FOOL, and he is really proving this true, from SM,,

There is a rumor going around.. Dont know if it is true LP is going to try to bond Ron out.. Also a comment left from Kayla Jo'es sister..

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/talk-to-tommy/

MC30

April 16th, 2010, 02:08 AM

gum-maw is full of shit...

MC30

April 16th, 2010, 02:10 AM

she might have an idea,but she will be too busy trying not to get her 'kin' in jail, if they aren't already

MC30

April 16th, 2010, 02:11 AM

nom nom nom

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 09:16 AM

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
Haleigh Cummings Case: Review of Recent Developments
Posted on April 16th, 2010 by Valhall

solange82200

April 16th, 2010, 10:47 AM

They know something, the cops. They told the family she is most likely dead. I know we all figured this, but for them to say so officially, something is up. Expect news any day now of what happened. They have taken Misty down to the river, and said she is cooperating. The grandma says she "heard" that Misty hit Haleigh on the back of the head, and that Joe Overstreet raped Haleigh and disposed of the body. How do you just "hear" that? That is pretty specific. Im willing to bet that is what happened. I knew that no one just came in and took the child with her being there. I think we all knew that.

Edit: Sorry, I didnt see the previous posts above mine till now. For some reason the last post that showed up before I posted this was from yesterday... sorry

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 10:56 AM

Morning solange, great post!! :tee:

Here is BB12's latest blog,

http://blogs.myspace.com/bb12-chris

April 16, 2010 - Friday

Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin
GUILTY of Murdering
HaLeigh Cummings

IN MY OPINION = IMO
This is an opinion blog

The “machine gun story” is a lie. It is an after thought. Probably a real fight took place the week before HaLeigh was murdered. Drug deal gone bad? Not paying for drugs? Joe wanted collateral? Smoke screen. Joe is an innocent patsy.

If Joe came to Ron home and did anything bad Misty would have called RON. Ron is violent and everyone knows Ron is violent. Misty would have answered the phone when Ron called all night. If Ron heard that Joe took his daughter or searched his house–Ron would have ran home from work and beat Joe down.

Ronald Cummings is a criminal with a criminal mind.

Ron is controlling and exhibits purely psychopathic behavior. Ron may not have loved HaLeigh in any deep way that a father should as Ron is off dealing drugs instead of searching for his missing child and you can see Ron seems to forgot he has a son less alone the other 3 children, especially when Ron chats on the telephone from jail, but he would likely be really ticked if someone else messed with his kids. Ron still allowed Misty to care for JR after the fact. Ron is a malignant narcissistic sociopath. Manipulative just like Casey Anthony. (Ron has 4 children by 3 underage baby momma’s.)

Ron spends his days dealing drugs and his nights getting high not looking or searching for HaLeigh. Dating a stripper while playing Misty. Ron kept Misty real high this entire time. Even after Misty started saying she thought it was Joe (day 9) RON did nothing. No confronting- Nothing. Ron Kept his mouth shut and taught Misty how to deal drugs for him.
Ron sticks a dead headless RAT in the CROSLIN family mailbox and yet- never confronts a soul about his daughter? Ron has been charged with assault before, hit all his girlfriends. Ron beat them, Ron hits his children, yet does nothing for 14 months?

The only reason Misty lies for 14 months is to save her and RON. She loves RON. She got a tattoo for RON. (after they divorced) Misty told her mother in jail how her and Ron where getting back together and that LE screwed it all up by arresting her and how she still loves RON. Ron was dating a stripper and told everyone he was not with Misty when he WAS. One does not keep quiet for 14 months because your afraid of your Crazy Cousin Joe. Especially after you went to visit him in Tennessee.

Misty tried to cough out all these lies to pass a polygraph and she always failed. I say we have no clue what the real story is or what the real time line is. I said from day one Ron is culpable. You wake up to a door propped open you call someone, you are frozen in fear. Misty never talked about feelings or fear. Misty waited until Ron came home to call 911. Ron’s behavior from the 911 call – Ron says: Why did ya let my kid get stolen bitach..." “I will murder who did this” … to Ron not even searching for his daughter, to never confronting anyone, to the tattoo of HaLeigh, to the marriage, all when HaLeigh was suppose to be MISSING not dead and memorialized in a tattoo.

Ron’s mother being 100% supportive and kind to Misty even though Misty has lied, and lied, and lied and failed polygraph after polygraph and is clearly on DRUGS. Yet- she is supportive and allows Misty to care for JR. Ron and his mother still allow Misty to care for JR?? wtf ??

WHY I think Misty is GUILTY:

Misty: “Kids loved me like mom.” “It’s what Haleigh WOULD HAVE wanted” “She was riding her bike…she was doing fine THEN”
Why would Misty knowing Tommy-Joe where coming for a gun not call Ron and tell him? Or why would she open the door for them?
If Tommy and Joe where over and searching- Misty fails to call Ron?
After Misty see the door wide OPEN, she does what? Misty never talked about fear or being frozen. What did she do? Go back to bed?
Misty never ran outside and searched the outside.
Fails to call 911 until RON makes her
Can not remember anything
Doesn’t know where Haleigh was sleeping
Doesn’t know what Haleigh was wearing
Finds the pink shirt
Talks more about the pee on blanket than the missing HaLeigh
The wedding
Misty went to visit Cousin Joe in Tennessee (shows no fear)
Lies, lies, lies
Failed Polygraph’s
Constant changing of the stories

HERE IS MY THOUGHT

LE is making Misty-Tommy believe that LE believes the whole “JOE STORY” to get Misty-Tommy to confess to their part and put THEMSELVES at the crime scene.

Misty-Tommy think they pinned this on Joe when in fact they are putting a nail in their own coffin. After LE gets Misty-Tommy to place their bodies at the crime scene they will go after MORE…
When LE matches the rope to Tommy
Then eventually Tommy will break and RON will go down with Misty.

Piece by piece this will break.
LE tricks are working IMO

Ron and Misty are responsible for HaLeigh's Murder.

Maybe a gun fight took place before Ron went to work and HaLeigh died, that would make them ALL responsible. Hence, why none of them turn on each other? My money is on a story like this that some how makes Ron, Misty, Tommy responsible.

Was it Ron’s drugs that killed HaLeigh on Misty’s watch. OR Misty was so high on the drugs Ron supplied? OR Ron killed HaLeigh and Misty stood by? Misty, Ron, Tommy, Joe got into a fight, HaLeigh died (gunshot)? HaLeigh was dead prior to Ron going to work? Misty hit HaLeigh because she peed the bed?

My money is on the last two.

RAT SOURCE
http://www.wesh.com/news/20374092/detail.html
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20382130/detail.html

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 11:21 AM

More of "Grandma Gummy Bear's Tall Tales of Grandkids Gone Bad", here she is clacking those empty tooth sockets on JVM,,:stupido3:

PRERECORDED INTERVIEW WITH FLORA HOLLARS

Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell – April 15, 2010

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

FLORA HOLLARS, MISTY CROSLIN`S GRANDMOTHER: In my heart, I think Joe did it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why is that?

HOLLARS: Because of the way that Tommy talked to my -- I brought Tommy down Sunday night on the telephone. And that`s when he started telling me, and I toad him, I says, "Hey, Tommy, you failed your lie detector test. Now, I`m fixing to ask you right now. I know in my heart who I think did it."

He says, "Who did you think, Nanny?"

I said, "I think Joe."

He says, "You`re right. Joe is the one that did it."

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOLLARS: What Tommy told me when I broke him down was the fact that Joe stated to him that, if he opened his mouth and said anything, that he would bring a gun back down there and kill his whole family. And Misty stated that he had put a knife to her throat that night, which I know Joe does have knives, and I know Joe does have guns in his house out there.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOLLARS: I`ve heard two different details. I heard that she got a hold of one of Ron`s pills and swallowed it and O.D.`d on it. And then I heard that Misty supposedly hit her in the back of the head and Joe supposedly raped her and then got rid of the body.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOLLARS: Yes, I do love them. Regardless of what they`ve done, I will always love them. No less and no more. But if you do something like that to a child, I`m sorry. I`m not going to have (ph) it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOLLARS: This has been a miserable year. And when Sunday came, it just felt like everything was lifted off of my heart.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you know who turned in the tip?

HOLLARS: I did.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you call the police?

HOLLARS: Yes, ma`am, I did. I turned it in to Crimestoppers. I turned it into the police department.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wow. You told everybody.

HOLLARS: I called everybody.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOLLARS: Since Joe come back from Florida, he`s been a completely different person. I mean, entirely different.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How so?

HOLLARS: His actions.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Grandma says she spoke with Joe on the phone yesterday hours after he was grilled by police and that Joe was furious with her. Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOLLARS: Do you want the actual words that he said when I talked to him?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I may not use them, but yes.

HOLLARS: You (EXPLETIVE DELETED) don`t call out here no more. That was his very words, just a little while ago.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/15/ijvm.01.html

myra manes

April 16th, 2010, 11:21 AM

http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.com/

Criminal Profling Topic of the Day: NOT Joe Overstreet

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 12:01 PM

SM,

Definitely worth watching if you haven't already seen them.

Start with Polygraph.

Misty Polygraph Video

and

Misty under hypnosis video

http://www.wftv.com/video/20605182/index.html

Jerri Blank

April 16th, 2010, 01:36 PM

SM,
Definitely worth watching if you haven't already seen them.
Start with Polygraph.

Misty Polygraph Video

and

Misty under hypnosis video

God I want to but since I can't stop laughing at myra manes super hilarious avatar & Signature photo's I want to leave for the day on a high note.

(I have random photos on for my screen saver and just saved those to the file I use for it, hope I'm sipping my coffee in the morning and have a giant Cindy Nazi spring up on me, Thank You myra manes!)

Chaindrive

April 16th, 2010, 01:51 PM

Wouldn't Misty have told the truth under hypnosis?

Dneilz

April 16th, 2010, 02:17 PM

Wouldn't Misty have told the truth under hypnosis?
Chaindrive- didn't you know that hypnosis doesn't work on a red neck???

Chaindrive

April 16th, 2010, 03:52 PM

I did not know that.

:croc:

Sister Iroz

April 16th, 2010, 04:21 PM

Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr.'s attorney released a statement this morning saying that he did not confess anything about Haleigh Cummings' disappearance to his grandmother.

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His attorney said Croslin Jr. then took the investigators to the Shell Harbour Road boat ramp, which became the epicenter for three days of revived searching for Cummings this week.

Croslin's grandmother, Flora Hollars, said she was responsible for the revived search after calling investigators with new details the Croslins gave her.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-04-16/story/croslins-attorney-he-didnt-make-any-confessions-haleigh-cummings-case

myra manes

April 16th, 2010, 04:44 PM

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-04-16/story/croslins-attorney-he-didnt-make-any-confessions-haleigh-cummings-case

So grammy Hollar made the whole thing up .. :stupido3:

Rhoni

April 16th, 2010, 04:51 PM

So grammy Hollar made the whole thing up .. :stupido3:

Imagine that...Still doesn't explain why misty was at the boat dock. I think Florida should just pass a law where they can arrest people for being white trash and or Morons.... That would take care of most everyone involved in this case and the anthony case.

Dneilz

April 16th, 2010, 04:52 PM

My prayer for Misty is best explained by this song: Enjoy :lollypop:

YouTube- Jaron And The Long Road To Love- "Pray For You" w/ lyrics

Echo

April 16th, 2010, 04:58 PM

On nancy grace I think they said that she was attached to a rope which had a brick on the other end...and she was dumped. Fucking Assholes. How could they? Such a little frail girl who was so so innocent.

I hate them.

Sorry. I'm just catching up. That is what I heard today, the grandmother told Nancy that Tommy said: Misty hit Haliegh in the head and hurt her, and then Tommy And Joe brought her to the dock, tied a cinder block to her and a rope and threw her into the water.

This is so fucking horrifying.

Echo

April 16th, 2010, 05:01 PM

Groovy-

Grandma Gummybears?

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mystery

April 16th, 2010, 05:01 PM

Just posted by Nancy Grace– CNN on my FaceBook:

Misty Croslin’s sister-in-law, Chelsea, breaks her silence on the Haleigh homicide investigation & takes your calls live! Don’t miss it!

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 05:01 PM

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/starwarsbar.jpg

Hee-hee

myra manes

April 16th, 2010, 05:10 PM

Imagine that...Still doesn't explain why misty was at the boat dock. I think Florida should just pass a law where they can arrest people for being white trash and or Morons.... That would take care of most everyone involved in this case and the anthony case.

Should be an international law .. :wavey:
I'm in Canada and trust me, there are plenty here too!

:cheers:

myra manes

April 16th, 2010, 05:12 PM

I like groovy's name for Misty best!

Musty ( or Moisty ) Crosbred .. :rofl:

Undeniable Truth

April 16th, 2010, 05:12 PM

Just a gander, but I'm thinking they killed or attempted to kill her in the approximate area of the previously mentioned plastic rose.

myra manes

April 16th, 2010, 05:13 PM

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/starwarsbar.jpg

Hee-hee

:rofl: LMFAO!!!!!!!!

Chaindrive

April 16th, 2010, 05:14 PM

So now TOMMY takes them to the boat dock???

mystery

April 16th, 2010, 05:17 PM

Search Near Satsuma Got Underway after Polygraph Test

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Tommy Croslin was responsible for getting the current search for Haleigh Cummings under way.

James S. Werter, attorney for Hank T. Croslin Jr., known as Tommy, said it started after a recent polygraph test.

Tommy Croslin is the brother of Misty Croslin, the teenager who police said was the last person to see Haleigh alive before she disappeared one night in Feb. 2009. Misty Croslin later married and divorced Haleigh's father.

Werter said Tommy Croslin asked to take the lie detector test in March to "clear the air" regarding the events of that night. He took the test April 8.

April 10, Croslin and Werter discussed the results, and two days after that, the two met with private investigator Steven K. Brown, who earlier this week said he knew what happened in the case of the missing 5-year-old girl.

Werter didn't specify what they discussed in that meeting Monday morning, but all three people and agents from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the Putnam County Sheriff's Office went to the Shell Harbour boat ramp after the meeting.

Tuesday morning, the three-day search got under way in that area.

The search lasted three days, and dive crews came out of the river with some items, but, according to Sheriff Jeff Hardy, nothing of evidentiary value.

Hardy said that investigators would continue searching for Haleigh for as long as it takes, but that it is likely the girl is dead.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=154862&catid=3

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 05:19 PM

I was thinking along these line all day but could not figure out a way to articulate it, then I saw this on SM,,,written so much better than I could state it, whatcha think?

I too do not think that Ron would intentionally harm his child.....I do not even think that Misty would harm Haleigh intentionally but perhaps by accident in their mind....I think of the co worker that said that Misty would call Ron hysterical that Haleigh would not settle down and he said whoop her and she said no and he said put in a movie...what if this time he said give her little something and she did and Haleigh reacted badly to it and she was throwing up ? convulsing? maybe Misty grabbed the breathing machine thinking that would help her ....and the medicine in that interacted with what she gave her and had an even worse reaction....CPR on the couch and then they thought that she was dead but she was not and so they disposed of the body ...thus leaving no death scent in the house or the vehicle and the washing of the blanket from possible vomit and last but not least the guilt of Ron saying that it was all because of him and his forgiveness to Misty because he gave the order to her for the meds and he felt that she tried her best to save her. Gma would share in the guilt also therefore having sympathy for both Ron and Misty....Perhaps the breathing machine could be one of the two items that they were looking for or what was in the bag that the man saw Misty throw away ? Oxyicotin would it be a deadly mixturWhat kind of medicine is generally in those machines anyway? and I wonder if it were mixed with e?

mystery

April 16th, 2010, 05:44 PM

Haleigh Update: Sheffield’s Attorney Issues Press Release

The attorney for the mother of missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma, who has been missing since February 2009 when she was taken from her home and has been the subject of a massive search, issued a press release today.

Carol A. Caldwell issued the statement to the media via email Friday afternoon stating that Crystal Sheffield and her family are cooperating with the law enforcement investigation regarding Haleigh disappearance saying that Crystal is in regular contact with the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department.

Ms. Caldwell also stated in the release that Crystal and her family members do not wish to speak with the media or give any media interviews and asks that the media respect their wished for privacy at this time.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124325

mystery

April 16th, 2010, 06:18 PM

Media Release
April 16, 2010

The recent overwhelming number of requests for information in the Haleigh Cummings investigation has forced the agency to temporarily change our procedure for responding to media calls.

On April 14, 2010, I personally received over two hundred and fifty (250) telephone calls or emails from media outlets requesting information or interviews in the Haleigh case. On April 15, 2010, I received over a hundred calls. Due to our limited resources, I physically have been unable to respond to all of these requests. Certain media outlets have also attempted to contact the Haleigh investigative team directly. These attempts cause an unneeded distraction for the investigative team, and we ask that members of the media refrain from contacting investigators directly.

I will provide releases to the media whenever a significant event occurs during this investigation. In the event there is a major development in the case, which justifies a live release or a press conference, I will inform all media outlets well in advance so they have time to prepare.

Members of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office will not be participating in any formal interviews or providing additional statements regarding this week’s search. We appreciate the media for keeping our citizens updated on the Haleigh Cummings investigation, but the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office is concentrating on conducting a thorough investigation to insure the individuals responsible for this crime are brought to justice.

Lieutenant Johnny Greenwood

http://www.bloggernews.net/124326

MadmamainNC

April 16th, 2010, 06:29 PM

Chaindrive- didn't you know that hypnosis doesn't work on a red neck???

That's cause an educated person doesn't know the secret key word to get into their brain...
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MadmamainNC

April 16th, 2010, 06:33 PM

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-04-16/story/croslins-attorney-he-didnt-make-any-confessions-haleigh-cummings-case
Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr.'s attorney released a statement this morning saying that he did not confess anything about Haleigh Cummings' disappearance to his grandmother.
His attorney said Croslin Jr. then took the investigators to the Shell Harbour Road boat ramp, which became the epicenter for three days of revived searching for Cummings this week.
Croslin's grandmother, Flora Hollars, said she was responsible for the revived search after calling investigators with new details the Croslins gave her.

This is what happens when roadkill is a staple in ones diet. Sort of like Mad-cow Denny Crane style.

Dneilz

April 16th, 2010, 06:34 PM

I was thinking along these line all day but could not figure out a way to articulate it, then I saw this on SM,,,written so much better than I could state it, whatcha think?
The mixture used in a breathing machine (Nebulizer) is albuteral and sometimes pulmicort I(which is a steroid). A nebulizer is commonly used with someone who has asthma...we have one because my son is a severe asthmatic. It does speed the heart rate up. That is all I know...

Figured I would answer the question for the poster of that groovey. Also, I can not think of many medications that would interact badly with either albuteral, ventilen or pumicort. There are a few other medications that can be used in this machine.

One last thing. This machine can be turned into a machine for smoking pot. I am not sure about anything else.... I heard someone say something about that when they seen my nebulizer for Spencer.

Dneilz

April 16th, 2010, 06:36 PM

That's cause an educated person doesn't know the secret key word to get into their brain...
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I am outta thanks....but LMAO..... hahahahaha:cheers:

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 09:06 PM

Thanks Dneilz, for that information :top:

http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Haleighandinhaler.jpg

Heartbreaking,,,

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 09:13 PM

Press release on behalf of Crystal Sheffield.

http://imgsrv.thesky973.com/image/wsky/UserFiles/File/im47201004161334.pdf

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 09:41 PM

Sorry if already posted,,

Haleigh Cummings Update – Search Ends

Posted on April 16th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in crime

I received word that the search in the Shell Harbour region of the St. Johns river has been completed. It has not been revealed if anything with any evidence value was found. This is hardly surprising, if Haleigh Cummings body was dumped in the area 14 months ago there would be little to locate at this late stage. The St. Johns river is not fast flowing, but it is still moving water. The term ‘needle in a haystack’ comes to mind.

I do believe though that the search was successful in so far as waking up the people involved. Apparently those currently behind bars are being a lot more co-operative in the investigation.

One of the more interesting aspects are the rumors swirling around concerning the source of the tip that led the police to the Shell Harbor area. HLN managed to do an about face on the name of the person. Last night the claim was made that it was Misty Croslin’s and Joe Overstreet’s maternal grandmother Flora Hollars that set the ball rolling. Two days previously they made a major boo boo by naming the real person. Interestingly enough the person that named the name seems to have been ‘offed’ the Nancy show. When the cops ask you to not blab a name, it is usually best not to.

Here is a press release that might clear things up (I have redacted the phone numbers and email address):

JAMES S. WERTER, LLC
ATTORNEY AT LAW

HALEIGH CUMMINGS MISSING CHILD CASE

APRIL 16, 2010

On March 26, 2010, I informed Nancy Grace that Hank T. Croslin, Jr. (Tommy), wanted and will take a polygraph exam to clear the air as to the events of the evening of February 9-10, 2009, when Haleigh disappeared.

On Thursday, April 8, 2010, Tommy did take a polygraph given by technician, Ron Grenier. On Saturday, April10, 2010, this attorney met with his client to discuss the results of the polygraph.

On Sunday night, April 11, 2010, this attorney received a telephone call from Lindsey Croslin (Wife) that Tommy requested that we meet with Steven K. Brown, the private investigator involved for the past 10-11 months.

On Monday morning, 9:30 AM, April 12, 2010, Steven K. Brown, this attorney and Tommy met at the St. Johns County Jail to discuss the polygraph and February 9, 2009.

Based on discussions that morning, this attorney made contact with FDLE, the State Attorney’s Office and Scott Bolin, Special Agent, FBI, and arranged an interview with Tommy at the State Attorney’s Office, Homicide Investigations Unit, St. Augustine, Florida, at approximately 5:00 PM.

As a result of the 2 plus hours interview with Jason Jolicoeiur, Special Agent, FDLE, Detective Peggy Cone, Putnam Co. Sheriff’s Office, under the guidance of this attorney and Steven K. Brown, Tommy took the group to the Shell Harbour Road boat ramp, St Johns River, Putnam County, Florida.

The commencement of the river search for Haleigh was at 10:00 AM, Tuesday, April 13, 2010.

http://www.bloggernews.net/124323

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 09:47 PM

Looks Marinade Dave wasn't satisfied he may have screwed up the Caylee Anthony case, now he is interjecting himself into HaLeigh's. I can't understand why these people's egos may result in no justice for these Baby Angels, when they cross the line and become part of the circus,,,

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/sittin-on-a-fence-post/

Sittin’ on a fence post
April 16, 2010

mystery

April 16th, 2010, 10:37 PM

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100416/ARTICLES/4161003

Update: Officials confirm Tommy Croslin's call to grandmother
The Putnam County Sheriff's Office said Friday that the brother of Misty Croslin did speak with his grandmother by phone from jail, as various news accounts have reported.

However, the Lt. Johnny Greenwood said in a release that details of the calls will not be discussed by authorities.

The grandmother of both Misty Croslin and Hank “Tommy” Croslin Jr., Flora Hollars of Nashville, Tenn., has said both Croslins called her Sunday and implicated their cousin, Joseph Overstreet, in the death of Haleigh Cummings.

Overstreet has denied any involvement in the case.

Greenwood said Friday that Tommy Croslin has recently spoken with Hollars by telephone. The details of the conversations, or copies of the actual telephone calls, cannot be released at this time, he added.

"These conversations contain information related to an active criminal investigation and are considered exempt from disclosure under Florida Public Records Law," Greenwood said.

MC30

April 16th, 2010, 11:31 PM

jmo
something happened, ron knew, also knew he had to go to work, thats why tommy was called by ron to go over there. jmo i don't think anyone ment to kill her. honest. i just don't. but they are all lying. i wonder why they picked joe?

groovy135

April 16th, 2010, 11:49 PM

HUM? this is news to me, I thought Roxie Ronald only had 3 children, (Haleigh & Ron Jr. with Crystal and a little boy with Amber), I didn't know of a 4th child. i was wondering when I read he had 4, when I read it on BB12's blog,,this was on SM,,I am still confused....

I agree with you, I think Ron did have something to do with this or at least had knowledge of what happened. I think he did not report anything because of his drug selling biz. also I wanted to know who the 4th child is? I know he had Haleigh and butter bean with Crystal and the disabled son with Amber( can't remember his name other then it starts with a J, was it Jeremiah) so who is the 4th?
Posted by Haleigh_ur_in_my_Prayers on April 16, 2010 - Friday - 4:36 PM
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BB12

BB Blogger

its a girl she lives in a trailer and grandmother has custody. she has a chromosome disorder to and collects soc sec disability. grma says ron hooked her on drugs and she is unstable still trying to get sober. i wont say on the internet more but in satsuma everyone knows her. they live in fear.

Posted by BB12 on April 16, 2010 - Friday - 4:45 PM

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=507681472&blogId=532870295

MC30

April 16th, 2010, 11:58 PM

wow

myra manes

April 17th, 2010, 12:36 AM

groovy135

April 17th, 2010, 07:48 AM

ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL Transcript
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/16/ijvm.01.html

groovy135

April 17th, 2010, 07:59 AM

http://www.ocala.com/article/20100417/ARTICLES/4171016/1001/NEWS01?Title=Report-Hank-Croslin-led-officials-to-river-in-Haleigh-search-effort

Report: Hank Croslin led officials to river in Haleigh search effort
Items that were found in the three-day search are being analyzed.

By Cindy Swirko
Staff writer

Published: Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 6:30 a.m.
Last Modified: Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 1:07 a.m.
The brother of Misty Croslin took authorities to a boat ramp that became the site of this week's three-day search for clues into the homicide of Haleigh Cummings.

James Werter, attorney for Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr., released a statement Friday saying that Tommy Croslin took a polygraph test on April 8 and met on Monday with representatives from several law enforcement agencies and private investigator Steven Brown.

"As a result of the two-plus-hours interview ... Tommy took the group to the Shell Harbour Road boat ramp ...," Werter said. "The commencement of the river search for Haleigh was at 10 a.m. Tuesday ..."

Some of the items hauled from the St. Johns River in the difficult three-day search are being analyzed at a University of Florida laboratory that specializes in identifying human remains to learn if any are from Haleigh.
The Star-Banner had reported on Wednesday that Brown said information from him led to the scouring of the river.

Werter said that Tommy Croslin was given a polygraph test on April 8 and that Werter met with his client on April 10 to discuss the results.

On Sunday night, Tommy Croslin's wife, Lindsy Croslin, called Werter and requested that they meet with Brown, who has been investigating the case for about 11 months.

They met to talk about the polygraph and the events of Feb. 9, 2009, the day Haleigh disappeared.

Then came the meeting with authorities and the trip to the boat ramp.
Haleigh was found missing from her Satsuma home on Feb. 10, 2009, and the Putnam County Sheriff's Office has identified several "persons of interest." A key figure is Misty Croslin, 18, who was the girlfriend of Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, at the time Haleigh disappeared. Haleigh was in Misty Croslin's care when she was found missing about 3 a.m.

Both Croslins, along with Cummings, are jailed on drug trafficking charges. Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy said Thursday that key figures in the case, including Misty Croslin, have become more cooperative lately.

Misty Croslin was taken to the search site on Wednesday, spending a short time on a dock with investigators.

Hardy on Thursday for the first time said authorities believe Haleigh is dead and have classified the case as a homicide rather than as a missing person.

Anthropologists from the C.A. Pound Human Identification Lab at UF were at the search site in southeastern Putnam County and are now involved in testing to determine what the collected materials may be.

The lab has assisted in a number of high-profile cases, including identification of victims of the 2001 World Trade Center attacks in New York and the slaughter of Russian Czar Nicholas II and his family in 1918.
"They work with medical examiners' offices and law enforcement agencies in the state in cases where there are questions about the circumstances surrounding a death," UF spokesman Steve Orlando said.

"They have worked on some really large cases and some complicated cases. They can do all of the testing and analysis at the lab."

A search of a boat ramp off Putnam County Road 309 was launched Tuesday and concluded Thursday after up to 30 divers from several agencies spent hours in the dark water, feeling along the river bottom in an almost blind search for clues to the disappearance.

Hardy said some items were identified and ruled out as potential clues. Others were kept for analysis.
Also on Friday, the Sheriff's Office said Tommy Croslin did speak with his grandmother Flora Hollars by phone from jail.

However, Putnam County authorities on Friday declined to discuss details of the call or other aspects of the case.

The grandmother of Misty and Tommy Croslin, Hollars is a resident of Nashville, Tenn., and has told several media outlets, including national television shows, that Tommy and Misty Croslin called her Sunday and implicated a cousin, Joseph Overstreet, in Haleigh's death.

Overstreet has denied any involvement in the case.

groovy135

April 17th, 2010, 12:12 PM

NANCY GRACE TRANSCRIPTS 4/16/10

Two Cinder Blocks Pulled from River in Search for Haleigh
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/16/ng.01.html

MadmamainNC

April 17th, 2010, 01:01 PM

I was watching tivo'd NG from the other night when Granny Hollars was on.

Why does this woman look younger than her daughter (Misty's Mom)?

(I'm sure this has been posted here before but I'm behind on DD reading)So with that said, how's this for a WTF moment???

"White Boy Greg" is his gangsta nicky name. As if that defines him from the other White Boy Greg's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVkAPOfXZKQ

MadmamainNC

April 17th, 2010, 01:35 PM

Granny Hollars, for anyone who hasn't seen her. I guesstimate she was probably 12 when she had Misty's Mom. :lollypop:

Her lizard tongue seriously disturbs me. I think she's a V.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBUOrtjNW0Y

Edited for Alert: Youtube bitches won't let me embed it. I must be right about that V thing -ya think?

Anyway you can access it via the clip

MC30

April 17th, 2010, 02:09 PM

LOL i think white boy greg is called such cause he is mixed...what is a 'v'?

MadmamainNC

April 17th, 2010, 03:02 PM

LOL i think white boy greg is called such cause he is mixed...what is a 'v'?

So what's his dark half called? :lollypop:

V as in V... the TV show.. i.e. Visitors, Lizard People (no relation to our Lizard) Aliens, UFobians..etc etc etc..

MC30

April 17th, 2010, 03:08 PM

hehe..that is black boy greg.:crazy:

i didn't even know there was a show called 'v'..where have i been...?

mystery

April 17th, 2010, 08:38 PM

Ronald Cumming's Attorney: Father Still Has Hope Tip Was False Lead

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- While boats and divers scoured the St. Johns River this week near Satsuma, detectives met with Haleigh Cummings' family.

Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, was walked out of jail for a while so detectives could also update him on the search for his missing daughter.

His attorney, Terry Shoemaker, told First Coast News that Cummings and his family were advised to make funeral arrangements.

"Yeah, you can understand how Ron would be shocked at that because he's hoping it ends, but still holding hope that maybe they're wrong that maybe something else happened and this will end up as another false lead," Shoemaker said.

Earlier this week, Flora Hollars -- the grandmother of Cummings' ex-wife Misty Croslin - spoke about the case. Hollars claimed Misty and her brother told her their cousin -- Joe Overstreet -- took the little girl.

Shoemaker said Cummings does not know Joe Overstreet well, but had suspected Overstreet since day one.

"He's not surprised," Shoemaker said, "and [Cummings] said if you go back and listen to the 911 tape he made a comment that night about "Cousin Joe.""

First Coast News has reviewed the 911 tape released by the Putnam County Sheriff's Office. First Coast News cannot make out where Cummings mentions "Cousin Joe" Overstreet. However, some of the 911 call may have been redacted.

Meanwhile, Overstreet maintained his innocence this week.

Overstreet told First Coast News' Jackelyn Barnard "I didn't do it."

Three days of searching the St. Johns River turned up items that need to be tested in labs as evidence in the case. Shoemaker said Saturday that Cummings believes Haleigh was placed in the river.

"I think he has a pretty good idea that's what transpired," Shoemaker said.

However, investigators and the sheriff have not confirmed what really happened to the little girl.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=154906&catid=3

MC30

April 17th, 2010, 08:52 PM

oh good god..i have listened to that 911 more times then anybody should. he Never mentioned a fucking cousin joe Not One Time. at all....they fucking did it..that sealed the deal for me...musty and ronny....
and maybe tommy....i still have questions about tommy...humm.

Whisper

April 17th, 2010, 08:58 PM

im behind the eightball here with catching up between work and I was sick I havent been keeping up
but as gruesome as it is to ask this are there alligators around there in Florida?
I have only been there 1x and it was layover b.c of a hurricane so Im not familiar with the areas

groovy135

April 17th, 2010, 09:00 PM

THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY EXCLUSIVE CLIPS FROM INSIDE ONE OF MISTY CROSLIN’S LIE DETECTOR TESTS. YOU WILL ONLY SEE THEM HERE. LISTEN CLOSELY FOR CLUES, AND STAND BY FOR MORE CLIPS. THIS FIRST CLIP IS FROM TJ WARDS VOICE ANALYSIS..MISTY TALKS ABOUT WASHING A PEE SMELL FROM THE BLANKETS.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/exclusive-video-inside-the-misty-crolsin-lie-detector/

Here a copy you can read
http://www.artharris.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/tjward-misty-lva2.pdf

By the way, you can watch Misty's entire polygraph that was done in August 2009 at this link:
http://www.wftv.com/video/20601690/index.html

SM

mystery

April 17th, 2010, 09:01 PM

did you see where it said for them to begin making funeral arrangements?:hurt:

Rhoni

April 17th, 2010, 09:19 PM

Here is what I think they should do...Line ron.misty.joe and tommy up. Hit them all in the head with a board. Then tie a yellow rope around every one of their necks, tie a cinder block to the end of each rope. Drag all their asses down to the boat dock and one by one toss them in... Now wait I am not done yet. They should be pulled out long enough to catch a breath or 2 and then tossed back in. When brought up the second time they should be questioned as to what REALLY happened. Repeat the tossing in and pulling out until someone or all talk.. Once they talk, deer blood should be applied to each of them and a FINAL toss in the water.. hasta la vista LOSERS!!

Dneilz

April 17th, 2010, 09:40 PM

She said she was looking under beds and in closets.... but all the beds I seen on the tour of the trailer were ON THE FLOOR. What, was she looking under a mattress for Haleigh? She is such a liar.
http://www.wftv.com/video/20601690/index.html

Dneilz

April 17th, 2010, 09:54 PM

In her lie detector test every time she lies... she shakes her head no. Anyone else notice this??

cubby

April 17th, 2010, 10:40 PM

Whisper, as far as i know there are alligators everywhere in Florida, just more in some places than others. We even get them as far north as central Georgia where I am located. Alligators are terrifying to me.

groovy135

April 17th, 2010, 10:47 PM

Oh this case is driving me crazy. I can't shake the feeling that drugs are involved w/ HaLeigh's murder,,I can't think of anything else that would cause such irrational behavior,,,I am wondering about this,,

Mystery said, her, Tommy & Cousin Joe were together earlier in the evening smoking some weed (possibly, but she also stated brother Tom was a crackhead, so who knows what they where actually smoking). Tommy's kids were there, they left, she made dinner, and put the kids to bed in bedroom watching video's, then she did some chores.

Hank Sr, & other brother Timmy were in a car accident, wrecking Timmy & Chelsea's car. Hank Sr. was in hospital and Timmy was home in bed drugged up on pain meds due to his accident. Timmy's wife Chelsea was home doing insurance paperwork for their wrecked car. Cousin Joe was staying with them. Chelsea had borrowed Tommy & Lindsey's van to take Lisa Croslin to the hospital. Cousin Joe says he was at Timmy's asleep when he was woken up at 4 a.m. with Mush-mush telling them HaLeigh was missing. Lindsey says Tommy was at home sleeping with her.

Now here are my thoughts,,

After Tommy & Joe leave Miss Nasty's they eventually had to take his kids home. Chelsea needs the van. Brother Timmy is at home with the motherload of every junkies dream,,,a fresh stash of pain meds,,he probably said, sure, for 6/8 Oxies, Roxies,,whatever they had given him,,,,Cousin Joe, went to get them, comes back,gives them to Tommy, maybe takes one himself and he & the van go back to Timmy's. Now Tommy is happy, he wants to get high but can't do it at home, Lindsey is there, but he does know where he can go,,,off to the Cummings trailer.

Marblemouth is very excited to see brother Tom, and they quickly get to business making the preparations. They chop the pills up and form the lines to snort it up, then out of nowhere Haleigh appears. For whatever reason she is up, she accidentally knocks over the board (?) they have been using and the drugs go flying all over, useless now ~ this absolutely infuriates Muskyass and she just goes crazy, hauls off and starts hitting the baby in a fury. Tommy may have already taken his hit, so he just stands there, in a stupor and does nothing to help the poor child. It happens in a matter of seconds and when it's over Haleigh lays there unconscious or dead. MistofDoom freaks out and tells Tommy he is involved cause he's there,,she will say he did it if he doesn't help her. Tommy agrees and leaves to get the van, walking to get it, which will take awhile. Because she can't look at her, she covers her with a blanket,,the pee blanket she goes on and on about. while Tommy is gone she cleans up the house and sets the stage.

They wrap her up in the blanket and take her out to the van. Then wrap her with the ropes & attach the cinder block's from around that property.It was decided where to take her,,Tommy takes her to Shell Harbor which just happens to be by Mom & Pop Croslin's Place. I don't think she went with him because Jr. was at home. Tommy drops her in the river, takes the van back to Tommy's and gets back by the time of the 4 a.m. phone call. And the cover-up begins.

I'm sure I'm way off but as I said, this is really driving me crazy,,I just have to know what happened to this darling little girl and WHY??

Alf

April 17th, 2010, 11:20 PM

i
but as gruesome as it is to ask this are there alligators around there in Florida?

Whisper, as far as i know there are alligators everywhere in Florida, just more in some places than others. We even get them as far north as central Georgia where I am located. Alligators are terrifying to me.

There are gators (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Alligator) everywhere in Florida.

--Al

Chaindrive

April 17th, 2010, 11:31 PM

My impression after watching Misty's test is she's much smarter than we've given her credit for.

JMO.

:dong:

groovy135

April 17th, 2010, 11:39 PM

Haleigh Cummings – Some Tapes Of Father Ronald Cummings Surface

Posted on April 17th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in crime

I was going though my files today, and I have to admit that when data is hitting you 8 ways to Sunday some information gets missed. What seemed unimportant many months ago, might actually be important today.

The conversations are with Ronald Cummings, and they occurred shortly after Haleigh Cummings disappeared. They might not solve the case, but they do make for interesting listening. The seemingly inconsequential question of who picked up Haleigh from the bus stop should now have an answer.

There are also references to Cousin Joe Overstreet and his thoughts about the perfect place to dump a body. Oh, don’t get me wrong, I am not trying to pin this on Cousin Joe, rather I think this was an early attempt by Ronald Cummings to mislead investigators.

The audio quality is poor, and I have no plans on spending my weekend trying to filter out the background noise. My advice is listen to them with the volume up high and maybe try it a couple of times.

The one thing I do know is that these tapes have not been released to any organization other than BNN.

WARNING STRONG LANGUAGE

Part one http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/WS_30001.WMA

Part two http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/WS_30002.WMA

Part three http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/WS_30003.WMA

Part four http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/WS_30004.WMA

I may have some other audio that is interesting, I am looking for them this evening.

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/124337

groovy135

April 18th, 2010, 12:00 AM

On SM,

[QUOTE] concerned_n_FL

http://www.bloggernews.net/124338 In this tape, Cobra keeps saying he thinks it is Joe, but Ron is pointing at Crystal.

http://twitter.com/concerned_n_FL[QUOTE]

MC30

April 18th, 2010, 12:13 AM

cobra is a joke

groovy135

April 18th, 2010, 12:13 AM

CASAREZ: Can you tell us procedurally, earlier in the week we know they called the family to the jail. We know that Ronald was taken somewhere. Can you -- procedurally, what happened to Ronald early this week when authorities came there?

SHOEMAKER: Well, originally, it probably would have been around Wednesday I think he was taken out of his cell and he had been in his cell on his own ever since he was arrested. He was taken over to the sheriff`s office.

They talked to him about what had transpired and the fact that there were some new tips that they were searching. He was then put back -- he has to be put back into general population at that time. He has been in general population ever since then.

And then last night one of the homicide detectives again came over and talked to him, gave him an update on what was going on and what they had found and what they were hoping to find.

CASAREZ: So you`re saying that he was taken from protective custody being alone, which he has been from the beginning, into general population?

SHOEMAKER: Yes. And -- yes, ma`am. And actually, that was Ronald`s request. He didn`t feel as though he was in any danger, and he didn`t think that he actually needed to be in any protective custody. And he asked to be put -- or placed back -- or into general population.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/16/ng.01.html

Ron's in general population?? I wonder why they let him? It must mean he is not involved,,,cause if it came out that he harmed his baby, & he was in gen pop wouldn't they beat him down for that? I would think they have to responsible for his safety while he is in their custody. Or maybe he has a better shot of getting a hold of some drugs or put a hit out on the Croslins or play card with his buddies. But he says he has nothing to fear so maybe he is in the clear.