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nurseronda
January 13th, 2009, 11:21 PM
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MELBOURNE, Fla. -- A 27-year-old man remains under observation in a special cell today after being charged in the death of his ex-girlfriend’s 3-year-old daughter last week.

Joseph C. Wente of Melbourne was charged with first-degree premeditated murder of Kataryn Johnson on Friday and was ordered held without bail during a Saturday court appearance at the Brevard County Detention Center, Local 6 news partner Florida Today reported.

Kataryn, who investigators said suffered traumatic head injuries, died Friday at Arnold Palmer Hospital for Children and Women in Orlando, hours after her mother returned home from work about 3 a.m. Friday to find the unconscious child lying on a couch, officials said.

“We found out about what happened during a traffic stop,” said Tod Goodyear of the Brevard County Sheriff’s Office.

“The mother had swooped the child up and was speeding through Melbourne to get to the hospital when Melbourne police pulled her over.”

The officers saw the unresponsive child and alerted medical authorities.

Kataryn was then airlifted to Arnold Palmer Hospital.

Wente was not Kataryn’s father, investigators said. However, sheriff’s investigators said he does have a 1-year-old son with Kataryn’s mother, an exotic dancer at a Cocoa Beach adult club.

Investigators said Kataryn was in Wente’s care at the time.

Wente, an ex-boyfriend of the mother, had recently moved back into her Melbourne home on Rockway Drive.

Sheriff’s investigators said Wente appeared to have been disciplining the 3-year-old when the injuries happened.

“Something happened; the child possibly broke a plate, we don’t know, but something happened and it went way overboard,” Goodyear said. “He never admitted what happened.”

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21561181/detail.html

DarkPrincess
January 14th, 2009, 01:27 AM
That's it, blame the beagle. Snoopy should whoop your ass.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s230/david_panget/snoopy.jpg

Tazzzz
January 14th, 2009, 01:31 AM
JOHN JOSEPH MACCARELLI 3RD, 33, DOB: 09/19/1975

http://www.pascosheriff.com/websmart/PL_Images/340094.JPG

Gee mabye he should have tried to blame a Dog shaped bathtub.

Ohh that wont work because, it sounds to me like he probly stuck his FUCKING ding dong in the little boys mouth,

John's (Land O'Lakes) arrest page:
http://www.pascosheriff.com/webapps/IMS500R.pgm?TASK=disp&rrn=000117056&rnd=41500

Charges:

1 AGGRAV CHILD ABUSE

nurseronda
January 14th, 2009, 01:34 AM
Thanks Tazz...I knew you would find the picture of this idiot.
Hugssssssssssssss

pocahontas72879
February 18th, 2010, 01:33 PM
I was shocked and appalled to see how many people believe all of what they read! I personally knew john and had any of you known him then you would 100% know that there is no way at all that he would hurt a fly let alone a child. He was the most good natured laid back down to earth man i have ever met! Did you ever question as to why he would be babysitting a friend's child in the first place? It is because he was very trustworthy and wonderful with children! If you bothered to find out the true facts behind what this horrible father did to his own child then maybe you would think twice about condemning someone you don't even know...

Alf
February 18th, 2010, 01:46 PM
Do you have a link for us, or just indignation? Indignation is old hat; links, though, count.

--Al

ineedanap
February 18th, 2010, 03:47 PM
It appears that Mr. MacCarelli may be deceased.

http://myfox8.tributes.com/show/John-Maccarelli-87780269

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sunsentinel/obituary.aspx?n=john-joseph-maccarelli&pid=139309019

http://www.legacy.com/gb2/default.aspx?bookid=4406775754715&cid=full

So, pocahontas, what happened??

MoonUnit1978
February 21st, 2010, 03:37 PM
The real story will be out shortly. John Maccarelli did not do this heinous act. There are alot of missing pieces to the puzzle here. The father of the baby did not take the baby from Johns house to the hospital directly, he went home, there was a 10 hour window and THEN he took the child to the hospital. I dont know about you people but dont parents look at their babies after picking them up from a babysitter? when putting them in the car? when putting them in the crib?.... yeah there are alot of holes here... Not to mention the father of this baby is now in jail for manslaughter as he beat a child to DEATH in Nov 2009 and has a long history of child abuse!!!. Google Joseph Wente, Orlando. You will learn alot about the schmuck who did this crime and allowed MY BROTHER to take the fall!... People are disgusting!! Joseph Wente is a PIG!!!!!!!!!!!!

pocahontas72879
February 21st, 2010, 05:54 PM
if you would all please read moon units response... i understand whenever people hear about any abuse to a child or animal, that they want intense suffering to be inflicted onto the wrongdoer. i agree with that. however, before incriminating, facts should be gathered and processed, and research should be done to understand if the story is correct or not. if you take that much interest in this story then you need to know the FACTS before passing judgement... John's passing has no link to this horrible act committed by a scumbag who allowed John to take the blame for his own disgusting horrendous deviant acts... John was a man who loved life and everyone in it!!!! those who knew him and knew him well backed him 100% without any question and were right to do so as his innocence was proven in the end! For those who question, Joseph Wente is the father of the child that John was babysitting, he picked the child up from John's care, went home and in a ten hour span abused his own son! after his disgusting abuse in which i hate to imagine the horrors that the poor boy suffered at the hands of his FATHER, he realized that he couldnt hide the damage done to his son and used John as a scapegoat, to hide his own deviant indiscretions! ten months later this same pig of a man beat his girlfriends daughter, Kataryn, 3 yrs old, to DEATH!!!! John was cleared and his loved ones will continue to make sure at whatever cost necessary that anyone who takes an interest in this terrible story knows it!!!!

Alf
February 21st, 2010, 06:12 PM
I, for one, am more than a little cynical of people who come in here and shout from the rafters "HE DIDN'T DO IT!", and for more than one reason.

One reason is here at this link (http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1738). It carries you to a story here, on Dreamin' Demon, where -- but go read it yourself.

--Al

TwiztidAngel
February 21st, 2010, 06:17 PM
wait...what? im confused...did this happen in jan 09 or jan 10? pocahontas says the father 10 months later beat a 3 yr old to death AFTER the 3 month old died? and when i look at the link provided with the story i see january2009 in it and the post on this story is jan 09 as well...wow i was thinkin it was THIS year....ok...wow damn...pocahontas do u have the proof it was a 10 hour span b4 the baby was taken to the hospital...not sayin i dont believe u just we see alot of ppl come in supportin the wrongdoer...do u have a link to a follow up article on this exhonerating ur friend? or that the father was charged instead....i find it odd myself 2 babies die in the same family in the same year no less...

Nell
February 21st, 2010, 07:20 PM
Use some paragraphs. I can't read that.

ineedanap
February 21st, 2010, 07:21 PM
Google returned the following:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21561181/detail.html


Joseph C. Wente of Melbourne was charged with first-degree premeditated murder of Kataryn Johnson on Friday and was ordered held without bail during a Saturday court appearance at the Brevard County Detention Center, Local 6 news partner Florida Today reported.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/article1074861.ece

The whole story seems to be at this link ^^.


John Maccarelli, shown with his pet beagle, Lola, was arrested in January 2009 on aggravated child abuse charge after a detective said he beat a 3-month-old baby. The charge against Maccarelli was dropped in December.


A man accused of child abuse was now free because of another brutal attack on a child.

Maccarelli, Velloso and Juliette moved back to the Fort Lauderdale area. "He was very relieved when they dropped the case,'' said his sister Colleena, "but still depressed. We thought he was just really mellow, but now we realize it was a very deep depression.''

He did seem to be planning a future. Velloso said he had qualified for the French Foreign Legion, and planned to sell his van and about $1,000 worth of tools to pay for passage. But on Jan. 27, somebody stole the tag off his van and it was towed.

"It was like the last straw,'' Velloso said.

That evening, she and Juliette visited Velloso's grandmother, who was dying at a hospice. When they got home, Velloso opened the front door.

"I could see John right away,'' she said. "Juliette started screaming. I ran to get a knife and cut him down while Juliette called 911. I tried CPR but it was too late.''

John Maccarelli had hanged himself with Lola's leash.

"I try to block it from my mind,'' Velloso said Friday. "It's the only way I can function. I feel like I'm about to have a nervous breakdown.

"John deserved better.''

Pocahantas & Moon: I am sorry for the loss of your friend and brother. If you will notice, this story, and the comments, was first posted when John was arrested. It was never updated. Although we, as members, try our hardest to stay on top of stories and updates, some slip by.

Please do stick around the Demon, new posters are always welcome, as long as you can play along. :wink2:

I don't know if the mods will seperate the thread into 2 stories, since they both involve the same person (Joseph Wente), so you may see this thread pop up from time to time. And again, I am sorry for your loss.

TwiztidAngel
February 21st, 2010, 09:28 PM
To Pocahantas & Moon: my sincerest condolences... To Pocahontas...plz accept my appology for doubting u...plz forgive me

Alf
February 21st, 2010, 09:31 PM
I am sorry for your loss. I know it isn't easy.

Have you spoken to your doctor, your minister, or somebody else you trust to recommend a counselor? I have to tell you; I thought as an ex-NCO I could take anything the world threw at me. I found out I was wrong when the problems kept coming and kept coming and kept coming. I finally ran out of coping capacity. The counseling is helping.

I also apologize for anything I wrote in this thread that made you feel that I was denigrating your brother and friend. I have been burned more than once IRL; as a result I am wary. My PTSD doesn't help either. I can also imagine being compared to James Crise is infuriating. It was not my intent to anger you or denigrate Mr. MacCarelli. I sought a link to an objective report on what happened and did so tersely. Now, having read those objective reports -- well, I apologize.

--Al

TwiztidAngel
February 21st, 2010, 09:49 PM
there u r alwaysinflyovercountry! i been lookin for u! i owe ya somethin!

Nell
February 21st, 2010, 09:51 PM
there u r alwaysinflyovercountry! i been lookin for u! i owe ya somethin!

A blow job? that's what he would want.

MoonUnit1978
February 21st, 2010, 10:46 PM
thanks everyone for taking the time to realize how this whole thing really went down... my brother was a great guy... this year has been tough, coming on here and reading horrible disgusting things about what people thought of him when I knew he was innocent. i hadnt posted til now because I didnt have the backup, and you all wouldve plowed me with questions and stuff I know I would want to read.... and if my brother were alive today.. I may still not have the back up. It took me some work to get the real story out there but luckily Bill Stevens at St Petersburg Times understood my need to have my brothers reputation repaired and he helped me do that. My brother can now rest in peace.

--- RIP BRO --- You will be forever a part of my life!....

TwiztidAngel
February 21st, 2010, 11:07 PM
A blow job? that's what he would want.

imma fresh out of thanx...that was funny!...no, he repped me in a post i did and i seen the rep but didnt know how to get back to where i could click on the name so i was keepin a look out for his name...or incase someone else repped me i could get to my rep page to return the favor....i know im a lame nOOb, sorry :crazy:

TwiztidAngel
February 21st, 2010, 11:14 PM
can the name of the thread b edited? sayin hes been found innocent?

Aslan
February 21st, 2010, 11:27 PM
I'm sorry he was falsely accused Moon.
I think I speak for pretty much all of us when I say "That's not something we want"
I am so so sorry for your family.

Alf
February 22nd, 2010, 12:12 AM
Thanks to MoonUnit1978 and pocahontas72879 we have some more information on a story from last year. Joseph C. Wente let John MacCarelli III (http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12153) take the blame for injuries his son suffered last year. That ended in November 2009, though, when Wente's ex's toddler daughter died of blunt force trauma incurred when Wente was watching her.


[Dated November 9, 2009]
MELBOURNE, Fla. -- A 27-year-old man remains under observation in a special cell today after being charged in the death of his ex-girlfriend’s 3-year-old daughter last week.

Joseph C. Wente of Melbourne was charged with first-degree premeditated murder of Kataryn Johnson on Friday and was ordered held without bail during a Saturday court appearance at the Brevard County Detention Center, Local 6 news partner Florida Today reported.

The story is here. (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21561181/detail.html) Thanks to ineedanap for digging it out.

--Al

badfish76
February 22nd, 2010, 12:16 AM
Sorry for your loss. I know that means exactly jack shit when it hurts so bad.

I was heart broken to learn that he wasn't able to hang on after his exoneration. I hope that you were able to take care of Lola because I am sure they loved each other and that he would want you two to comfort each other.

Bless you and your family and I am sorry that the story ended up here but I am also glad to be able to be a part of keeping his GOOD name up and shedding light on the real villain.

Alf
February 22nd, 2010, 12:20 AM
I started a new thread to discuss the person that caused your friend and brother so much grief. If you search thread titles for "Wente" you should be able to find it.

--Al

badfish76
February 22nd, 2010, 12:22 AM
As I have mentioned before I find it repulsive to the core that a person would let someone else take the fall for what they did. There is no honor in that.

If you fuck up the best way to redeem yourself is to first admit you were wrong. (Not that that is gonna cut it when you beat children but it is a start.)

pocahontas72879
February 22nd, 2010, 10:48 AM
TO ALL OF YOU ON HERE WHO TOOK THE TIME OUT TO READ AND RESEARCH AND FIND OUT ABOUT A MAN WHO WAS A STRANGER TO YOU BUT A LOVED ONE TO US, THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART... EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES, WE'RE HUMAN AND IT'S OUR NATURE. WE PRESUME AND ASSUME BUT WHAT MAKES US GREATER IS OUR ABILITY TO SEE REASON AND LIGHT. ALTHOUGH, YES, SOME BLOGS WERE VERY HARD TO READ, IT IS MUCH APPRECIATED THAT THE WORDS HAVE BEEN TAKEN BACK AND APOLOGIZED FOR. I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT JOHN'S TRUE STORY HAS COME TO BE LET KNOWN AND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ALTHOUGH HAVE NEVER MET HIM, THRU HIS LOVED ONES, GET TO SEE JUST HOW WONDERFUL AND ENDEARING HE WAS. I LOVE YA JOHN AND NOW YOU CAN FINALLY REST IN PEACE... http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q16/pocahontas728/ScannedImage005.jpg

pocahontas72879
February 22nd, 2010, 11:03 AM
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q16/pocahontas728/ScannedImage002.jpg

FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS!

DamagedGoods
February 22nd, 2010, 11:17 AM
This has made me cry...

koochie
February 22nd, 2010, 12:09 PM
how terrible.....sincere condolences..

MoonUnit1978
February 22nd, 2010, 04:57 PM
This has made me cry...


me too DamagedGoods... every day since this happened... and everynight... sometimes i laugh at the same time though cause my brother was so much fun and so funny... the best friend i ever had!!!... and im not just saying that cause he is deceased, im saying it cause I mean it!! He and I were BEST FRIENDS since we were little kids and we were BEST FRIENDS as adults....im deeply saddened about the situation but the posting eases the pain a little, just to know his reputation has been repaired somewhat, i feel this is what he needs to RIP... and what our family and I need to go forward...

Lizard
February 22nd, 2010, 05:04 PM
Thread title changed.

My condolences on the loss of your loved one.

DamagedGoods
February 22nd, 2010, 05:10 PM
me too DamagedGoods... every day since this happened... and everynight... sometimes i laugh at the same time though cause my brother was so much fun and so funny... the best friend i ever had!!!... and im not just saying that cause he is deceased, im saying it cause I mean it!! He and I were BEST FRIENDS since we were little kids and we were BEST FRIENDS as adults....im deeply saddened about the situation but the posting eases the pain a little, just to know his reputation has been repaired somewhat, i feel this is what he needs to RIP... and what our family and I need to go forward...

Thank you for coming and setting his story straight, I think the father who actually did the abusing, might as well have murdered your brother, and should be made to pay for it, although I doubt he will.

Just the idea of what you and his other loved ones must be going through is heart-rending, let alone what the reality must be...

TwiztidAngel
February 22nd, 2010, 05:14 PM
i'm so happy to see the thread name change!...and thank u to Pocahontas for the pix of John...its truly a blessing to see him in a better light...and hey Moon? u sure we aint related...we have the same writin style...u know the whole "..." thing we do :crazy:

pocahontas72879
February 22nd, 2010, 05:51 PM
Thank you lizard for the thread title change!!!!

MoonUnit1978
February 22nd, 2010, 07:42 PM
thread title changed.

My condolences on the loss of your loved one.

thank you so much!!!

MoonUnit1978
February 22nd, 2010, 07:43 PM
here is the whole article, it seems that the one that was posted above is only a partial or a shortened version..

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/article1074861.ece

Alf
February 22nd, 2010, 08:01 PM
Newspapers get a little upset when people copy and paste their stories on blogs such as this. An excerpt is fine as long as it falls under Fair Use.

--Al

Ninja0980
February 22nd, 2010, 08:05 PM
Stories like this sometimes prove we can't always rush to judgement. Sadly, it's not the first time a innocent person was condemned in the media and in the blogging world..and sadly won't be the last either.
I will say this, the cops investigating this should be fired! Sad to say, but in a child's death, you check out everyone, which the cops clearly didn't do.

pocahontas72879
February 22nd, 2010, 08:36 PM
no problem with the pics, just touched up ones his sister sent me of him, that's who john was, always bright and smiling, with the best deep throated laugh you ever could hear... if anyone can get in touch with tazzzz and have him take off the mugshot pic of john it would be greatly appreciated by all!! the look on his face is one of shock and scared and it pains us... thank you

badfish76
February 22nd, 2010, 09:42 PM
OMG!!! I just realized that the little girl that he helped to raise is the one that first found him and called 911 while her mom tried to save him!!

SO SAD!!! I am SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SORRY!!!!!! : (

calidreamin09
February 22nd, 2010, 10:45 PM
http://www.myspace.com/ocien

moms myspace kataryn was so beautiful it just makes me sick I would do anything for a little girl and this waste of air beats her to death and the mom keeps the lowlife around she had to know something

MoonUnit1978
February 22nd, 2010, 10:58 PM
JOSEPH WENTE is a PIG!!! I hope he rots in prison!!! I hope the fathers he is in there with beat his ass every day and every night!!! WHAT A SCUMBAG...

AngelFire
February 23rd, 2010, 12:32 AM
So this douche Wente beat his own son, and tried to blame it on John? Yeah this creep will be meeting with Karma one too many times before his putried life ends. I hope that Karma is plenty angry when she visits

MoonUnit1978
February 23rd, 2010, 02:21 AM
Newspapers get a little upset when people copy and paste their stories on blogs such as this. An excerpt is fine as long as it falls under Fair Use.

--Al



Al, are you referring to the link i posted with the whole story? or the pics pocahantas uploaded, because those pics are actually mine and the newspaper only has them because I sent them a copy. I was just wondering. I wasnt aware of Fair Use only cause if they already have it posted somewhere, I wouldnt see where their argument would be, unless its cause they want people to read it on their website in which case, they would be since its just the link.. lol... but like i said, i am just wondering what you were referring to here cause i hadnt thought of that at all.

MoonUnit1978
February 23rd, 2010, 02:25 AM
is there anyway we can have the mugshot from early on in the thread removed? thats not what he looked like, its very upsetting to see that picture. Its bad enough it will never be removed from the newspapers who initially wrote this story but if it can be removed from here, I would be very appreciative and so would our family. Its heartbreaking to see. please.

nurseronda
February 23rd, 2010, 02:28 AM
is there anyway we can have the mugshot from early on in the thread removed? thats not what he looked like, its very upsetting to see that picture. Its bad enough it will never be removed from the newspapers who initially wrote this story but if it can be removed from here, I would be very appreciative and so would our family. Its heartbreaking to see. please.I have left a request for Tazzzz to remove that picture.

Lizard
February 23rd, 2010, 03:52 AM
Hey, folks. Any mod can remove that photo that Tazzz originally posted, but I want to step in as a mod and advise against it. Let John be a reminder to us all that there is always that chance that what we see in the original media reports is NOT the truth--here on DD, we DO want to shame the wrongdoers, but we ALWAYS will point it out when a person who was accused was later proven to be innocent.

John MacCarelli III, please. Rest in peace.

pocahontas72879
February 23rd, 2010, 01:36 PM
Lizard i do understand where you are coming from, but please as a mod remove that pic! Wrongfully accused and heartbreakin to look at as it's the first pic on here... We would all appreciate it greatly!!! Thank you!

TwiztidAngel
February 23rd, 2010, 01:38 PM
Hey, folks. Any mod can remove that photo that Tazzz originally posted, but I want to step in as a mod and advise against it. Let John be a reminder to us all that there is always that chance that what we see in the original media reports is NOT the truth--here on DD, we DO want to shame the wrongdoers, but we ALWAYS will point it out when a person who was accused was later proven to be innocent.

John MacCarelli III, please. Rest in peace.

or maybe use one of them spoiler button things for the mugshot so its not the 1st thing u see? just a thought

MoonUnit1978
February 23rd, 2010, 03:40 PM
Hey, folks. Any mod can remove that photo that Tazzz originally posted, but I want to step in as a mod and advise against it. Let John be a reminder to us all that there is always that chance that what we see in the original media reports is NOT the truth--here on DD, we DO want to shame the wrongdoers, but we ALWAYS will point it out when a person who was accused was later proven to be innocent.

John MacCarelli III, please. Rest in peace.



PLEASE REMOVE THE PICTURE.. if the pic can be removed, please remove it. I cannot stand to look at it. THAT PICTURE SHOULD HAVE NEVER EVEN BEEN TAKEN... PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES, THAT WAS MY BIG BROTHER, THE ONE WHO HELD MY HAND AS A CHILD CROSSING THE STREET, THE ONE WHO I FOUGHT WITH TO BREAK THE WISHBONE ON OUR THANKSGIVING TURKEY, THE ONE WHO I WOULD GET PUNISHED WITH WHEN WE GOT CAUGHT WATCHING TV FROM UNDER THE DINING ROOM TABLE RATHER THAN BEING IN BED LIKE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE, THE ONE WHO TAUGHT ME ALL ABOUT FOOTBALL AND LET ME PLAY WITH HIS FRIENDS.... PLEASE REMOVE THAT PICTURE, ITS HEARTBREAKING TO SEE!!...

YOU ALL WOULD HATE TO SEE YOUR FAMILY MEMBER LIKE THAT!!.... if my brother was guilty of this heinous act, i would say he deserves it to stay, but he doesnt. My brother is deceased, Im trying to remember him the way I knew him in the pics pocahantas posted.. to see that picture makes me break out in tears everytime i try to quickly slide by it... it always catches my attention.. PLEASE, remove it!

battery jackson
February 23rd, 2010, 04:44 PM
Hey, folks. Any mod can remove that photo that Tazzz originally posted, but I want to step in as a mod and advise against it. Let John be a reminder to us all that there is always that chance that what we see in the original media reports is NOT the truth--here on DD, we DO want to shame the wrongdoers, but we ALWAYS will point it out when a person who was accused was later proven to be innocent.

John MacCarelli III, please. Rest in peace.

why aren't the words good enough? when someone is proven to be not guilty, the mugshot should be destroyed. it's just a respect thing. it's different with articles though.

Abroad
February 23rd, 2010, 04:49 PM
Al was explaining why the story as posted was "incomplete". Wholesale copy-pasting from the news-site could get this site into trouble over copy-right.

Links are fine. Often a teaser is posted with some of the most important or quotable information and then a link to the complete article.

ScribbleMuse
February 24th, 2010, 01:50 AM
I am so sorry about your heartache and loss. :( Normally I like written communication much more than oral, but in cases where I am so sad, it is too inadequate. I am so sorry that your brother went through what he did, and also glad to be humbled by being incorrect in assumptions that guilt is too sure after arrests have been made.

It's true that if a case progresses to the point of arrest/announcement that guilt is usually sure, but this case has given me a little glimmer of hope in the world just by making me wrong.

Your brother sounds like he was a lovely person and I am glad that you guys are able to represent him so well and with so much love. I am sorry for the anguish he had in life, but I think that he has been resting in peace with your love and devotion.

***
My opinion does not count for anything, but I agree with taking the picture down. I understand what you're saying Lizard, but I feel that to leave up the pic of him is an insult. To be honest, I opened this thread last night as I was buzzing through the forums, and read the story, figured the title meant that he claimed he didn't hurt the child, just like when the titles sarcastically refer to the criminal's excuse, i.e. "Joe-Bob Smith's Mean Sofa Ate the Family Dog." I did not read the rest of the thread until tonight. Therefore, I also think that a small disclaimer at the top of the thread would not be out of place either to specifically say that this man is innocent.

Again, I realize my opinion doesn't mean much, but just giving the impression that I had as a random reader and how confusing it seemed. I think that it IS important to leave the general thread as the reminder of how some people really DO tell the truth and really ARE good people, but I really wish that it was more obvious about John's innocence rather than his original alleged guilt.

Ninja0980
February 24th, 2010, 10:10 AM
This case brings to mind the BTK killer. As my mom was from Wichita and my grandmother lived there until she died, this was a big case in my life. One of his victims was Vicki Wegerle. She lived a couple of blocks from my Grandparent's house. For 19 years, many people and police though Bill Wegerle had done it.
It took fifteen minutes to discover his wife's body (he was taking care of his son) and he failed not one but two lie detector tests. Throw in the fact he asked for a lawyer fairly fast and people pretty much assumed he had gotten away with killing his wife.
Expect he didn't do it. That case and this case sadly show that even though it may not seem like it, some suspects actually are telling the truth. There is no way to undo the damage done. All we can do is say we're sorry. Not much but it's all we can do.
I do think the picture should be taken down but that's my option.

MoonUnit1978
March 26th, 2010, 08:37 PM
hey thanks alot people for removing my brothers mugshot... you all came on here a year ago and talked a whole lot of crap that wasnt even accurate and then you find out the real story and you can all say sorry and this and that but you cant remove a photo that should have never even been taken...

demons den is right... if you have the access to remove that pic and you didnt, then you are a demon. this site is disgusting... you should really all start finding out the true facts of someones story before talking awhole lot of crap about them and having your hand in their depression and embarassment that ultimately leads to suicide. I will never come back to this board again so no point in defending your decision.