Carla Walker was Kidnapped [Archive]

DarkPrincess

December 30th, 2008, 12:27 PM

http://www.unsolved-crimes.com/images/walker.jpgName:Carla WalkerPlace:Fort Worth, TexasBirthdate: January 31, 1957 age 17 at time of crimeDescription:White Female
Long blonde hair
Carla was last seen wearing a light blue dress which was found at the scene when her remains were discovered.Carla and her boyfriend, Rodney,went to a Valentine's Day dance at the high school on Feb. 17, 1974, a Saturday night. Afterwards the couple met friends at a popular drive-through restaurant not far from Carla's South Fort Worth home. At approximately midnight, Carla needed to use the restroom, and Rodney drove her to a nearby bowling alley. Rodney walked her into the building and waited for her.
They were getting into the car when someone jerked open the passenger door and grabbed Carla. Rodney said he struggled with the attacker but was hit over the head and knocked unconscious. He does remember the man saying, "I'm going to kill you." Police later found a clip for a .22-caliber Ruger semi-automatic pistol lying in the parking lot and speculated that it had fallen from the kidnapper's pistol. When he awoke Carla was gone. Bleeding from his head, he drove to Carla's parents house to report her missing.
On February 20, 1974 Carla's body was found under a culvert near Benbrook Lane in Tarrant County. The medical examiner said Carla had apparently been drugged with morphine, raped, and kept alive for about two days before being strangled.
Carla Walker was an outgoing, athletic, and popular student at Western Hills High School.

http://www.unsolved-crimes.com/walker.html

Unamused Cat

December 31st, 2008, 11:20 AM

Why do I not believe the boyfriend's story?

CelticMyth

January 2nd, 2009, 05:20 AM

But if the boyfriend drove immediately to the parent's house and the girl was found to be kept alive and drugged for two days then I don't see how he could have pulled it off. It would be hard to drug her, stash her somewhere, contact the parents who contact the police and then repeatedly keep going back to where she was to rape and drug her more with the police watching for two days. Possible I guess but not very likely.

mickey

March 8th, 2009, 07:02 PM

I'am not sure I believe Rodney's story either.It sounds a little odd.

Lizard

March 8th, 2009, 07:42 PM

TO: DARK PRINCESS
RE: CARLA WALKER KIDNAPPING
Why do you not believe the boyfriend's story?

Read the stories on this site. Very often the perpetrator IS the boyfriend, the husband, the ex, etc. However, I'm with Celtic on this one. If she was drugged and kept alive for 2 days, I don't see how the boyfriend could've pulled it off.

Insomniac

March 8th, 2009, 08:27 PM

Hope the murdering scum that did this is long dead and rotted.

Silvahalo

March 8th, 2009, 09:00 PM

She was such a lovely young girl...more of a young lady just starting her life.

I don't get the feeling the boyfriend did it...not if he reported it immediately and wasn't suspiciously gone for days after. But as we know, it could turn out different.
I hope the bastard is found, although he may be did...if he's dead I hope it was a brutal ending.

http://i37.tinypic.com/kvreu.jpg

mickey

March 9th, 2009, 01:24 PM

re: CARLA WALKER was kidnapped
Why don't you believe the boyfriend's story?

Lizard

March 9th, 2009, 04:13 PM

re: CARLA WALKER was kidnapped
Why don't you believe the boyfriend's story?

How many times are you going to ask this question?

LocalCelebrity

March 10th, 2009, 09:57 AM

TO: DARK PRINCESS
RE: CARLA WALKER KIDNAPPING
Why do you not believe the boyfriend's story?

hhhmmmm....very intent on getting an answer hugh? Maybe this Mickey character is related. Just joined and only posts are here.... ?

~Absynthe~

March 10th, 2009, 10:07 AM

http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=25&pictureid=5087beautiful young girl its a shame her life had to end like it did.rip Carla

mickey

March 10th, 2009, 03:47 PM

Check out the story that Rodney McCoy gave the police.You'll find it doesn't exactly fit the scene of the crime!

mickey

March 10th, 2009, 04:22 PM

I am new to this site and I am in the process of learning how to post comments.
So please understand this if I make mistakes! THANK YOU!

Nell

March 10th, 2009, 04:23 PM

we were just messing with you. it is the way of our site. welcome.

LocalCelebrity

March 11th, 2009, 10:15 AM

I am new to this site and I am in the process of learning how to post comments.
So please understand this if I make mistakes! THANK YOU!

No worries Mickey. Welcome

mjmsepm

March 11th, 2009, 10:57 AM

Part 1
http://www.fwweekly.com/content.asp?article=3219

this site is interesting!!!!

Part 2

http://www.fwweekly.com/content.asp?article=3220

mickey

March 13th, 2009, 01:27 PM

CARLA WALKER
THE CASE: They were getting into the car when someone

jerked open the passenger door and grabbed Walker. McCoy

said he struggled with the attacker but was hit over the

head and knocked unconscious, although he remembered the

man saying, "I'm going to kill you." Police later found

a clip for a .22-caliber Ruger semi-automatic pistol

lying in the parking lot and speculated that it had

fallen from the kidnapper's pistol.
McCoy awoke with blood streaming down his face and drove

to his girlfriend's house, where Doris Walker had been

watching the clock. It was after midnight, time for

Carla to be getting home. "That's when Rodney came and

started banging on the door," she said. "He had been hit

on the head." Her husband went looking for Carla, while

Doris Walker called an ambulance for McCoy and rode with

him to the hospital.
1:Where was Rodney when he was hit over the head and

where did he wake up?
2:Did anybody from the establishment (bowling alley) see

where he had fallen and helped him?
3:Where exactly was the clip to the gun found?
4:how much time had passed between stopping at the

bowling alley and when Rodney woke up and then headed to

the Walker's home?
5:At what time did they actually stop at the bowling

alley?
6:How fast did Rodney McCoy get from one side of the car

to the other in order to struggle with the attacker?
7:How did Rodney grab Carla before she was taken out of

the car?
8:Which begs the question of how Rodney got hit over the

head and knocked unconscious?
9:How did he end up struggling with the attacker?
These are very interesting questions aren't they!

fionna

March 13th, 2009, 01:36 PM

I don't quite believe in the story Rondey mcCoy gave the police either! It seems a little far fetched!

carol13

March 13th, 2009, 01:40 PM

Hey mickey, i know you're new, this should be a comment in the other story about carla, not a whole new article. Someone might move it for you.

Silvahalo

March 13th, 2009, 02:11 PM

Fiona, does this comment go to a story posted? I searched Rondey mcCoy, but didn't find it.

It looks like you posted a comment as a new thread. To post a comment to the thread in questions just click reply within the story posted.....I know you are new and all of us had our turn doing this kind of thing....no biggie. I'm sure a mod will fix it.

Abroad

March 13th, 2009, 04:49 PM

If you search for Rodney McCoy, you'll see that the post belongs in the Carla Walker thread.

LL44

March 13th, 2009, 07:44 PM

So..... where is Wilhoit now? That article was 2002... has Wilhoit turned up again?

Dakota Valkyrie

March 15th, 2009, 12:55 PM

Hey folks! Could you help a little old mod lady out? If you report a post as being a duplicate or belonging somewhere else, could you give a link to the correct place also? Saves the mods time having to look it all up and such.

Anyone scratching their head and thinking "Report a Post???"? At the upper right of each post, there is an icon that looks like this: http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/images/kirsch/buttons/report.gif

If you click it you can report threads that are duplicates or otherwise are violations. It's a sweet little trick that helps the mods out and makes them feel useful around here. :lollypop:

Dakota Valkyrie

March 15th, 2009, 01:13 PM

So..... where is Wilhoit now? That article was 2002... has Wilhoit turned up again?
About Wilhoit - article in May 2003:

William Ted Wilhoit, a habitual burglar and convicted rapist, was paroled from the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in January (2003) after serving more than 22 years in prison. He is currently living in Corpus Christi.

Years ago, Wilhoit hinted to Terrell that he had been responsible for Walker’s abduction and murder.

[...]
Last week, Thornton said the testing had been completed to no avail. “We did some more DNA testing that came up negative on some of the existing names we had as possible suspects,” he said. “We received the results of those, and they said they were negative as far as any matches.”

Thornton declined to say what kind of bodily evidence was tested or which suspects it came from.

[...]
Terrell is in contact with Corpus Christi police and probation officers again, warning them that he believes Wilhoit will be unable to resist the demons that drive him. “He’ll strike again,” Terrell said.http://www.fwweekly.com/content.asp?article=2229

The side story of retired detective John Terrell is pretty interesting in itself.

Kaylara

March 16th, 2009, 01:09 PM

Dakota Valkyrie

March 16th, 2009, 01:38 PM

Sorry! My bad!
No sorries! Not a bad at all! How are newbies supposed to guess what to do around this place? There are no "bads"... just "didn't knows". Huge difference.

I prefer to speak up rather than piss and moan to myself that you don't know things via magic telepathy. It's how I roll... avoid the piss-and-moan where ever possible.

mickey

March 29th, 2009, 08:25 PM

sherrz

March 29th, 2009, 10:15 PM

What are you talking about? Where's the story?

Nell

March 29th, 2009, 10:18 PM

Ugh. This is what he means. Still can't figure out the forums.

http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11459&highlight=carla+walker

Alf

March 30th, 2009, 09:24 AM

Can anyone tell me when retired police detective JOHN TERRELL died?
What Iam talking about is CARLA WALKER kidnapping and

murder case:
Does anyone know how to answer a simple question?
I found out that the retired police detective JOHN

TERRELL who was looking into the CARLA WALKER kidnapping

and murder case had died and the question was "Can

anyone find out when the retired police detective JOHN

TERRELL died?"
Telling a story is fine,but when someone asks a simple

question wondering whats going on who knows how to

answer the question?

it really isn't necessary to fire off a new thread every time you want to make a post about this story, mickey. If you click on the "User CP" on the left end of the second bar down then click on "Subscribed Threads" you will see every thread you have already posted to and you can click on the thread title and add to that thread. Any threads you have posted to that show new activity will have the title shown in bold type like this and will be moved to the top of the list.

when someone asks a simple question wondering whats going on who knows how to answer the question?

You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, mickey.

Wikipedia showed me some 1107 pages exist that reference "John" and "Terrell" and another 292 that reference "Carla" and "Walker". I assumed he would have been buried in Texas if he had died so I checked there at findagrave.com, but the only two people there that matched names and who died in the allowable range of dates didn't match the other particulars. It is possible that Det. Terrell is still alive, but the web site that he started -- http://www.justiceforcarla.com -- tells a different story. The Ft. Worth Weekly printed a followup in March 2004 here (http://www.fwweekly.com/content.asp?article=1396) that indicated he was still alive then and coming up fast on 74 years old, which is what I used to inform my search at findagrave.com.

If I wanted to know when Det. Terrell died I think I would contact the Ft Worth Weekly and ask them if they knew.

--Al

mickey

March 30th, 2009, 04:07 PM

I found out from my brother that terrell is actually giving up on this case for several reasons including the fact that he is around 80 years old and the fact that not too many women like to talk about their experiences about having been raped or the fact that they aren't alive to even tell!
This is still being investigated by other investigators and I hope they are able to resolve this case.I am sadden by those who wish not to get involved in such matters are selfish!
"Turning the other cheek" would not exactly be a good idea in cases like this! People need to come forward and do everything and anything in order to help and not to hinder in the pursuit of justice!
After 35 years of dogged pursuit John Terrell is letting it go and putting it behind him and let others take over! I have to hand it to him that he was so dedicated to this case that he needs a rest!

mickey

March 30th, 2009, 05:11 PM

hhhmmmm....very intent on getting an answer hugh? Maybe this Mickey character is related. Just joined and only posts are here.... ?

My name is michelle (mickey) and yes she was my relative!WHen I found out that she was killed I wanted to find all that I can about who killed her!I was only 12 yrs old when she died and I would like to know the truth.I read just about all the newspaper clippings and other stories that are available on the web,but I need to know more!
REST IN PEACE CARLA (CARLY)

Alf

March 30th, 2009, 10:27 PM

I did a search on the Ft. Worth Weekly's home page and discovered their archives are being reindexed -- but they offered a Google search instead and that paid off. Det. Terrell last appeared in the paper on January 9, 2008 (http://www.fwweekly.com/content.asp?article=6614) saying he had boxed up his files on the Carla Walker murder and was giving up. If he has died in the intervening 15 months, his estate would have had to go through probate and that box of files would have been part of the estate.

Can you get to the county courthouse in Tarrant Co., Texas, to see who his executor was? If not, can you E-mail them?

--Al

mickey

March 30th, 2009, 11:23 PM

I did a search on the Ft. Worth Weekly's home page and discovered their archives are being reindexed -- but they offered a Google search instead and that paid off. Det. Terrell last appeared in the paper on January 9, 2008 (http://http://www.fwweekly.com/content.asp?article=6614) saying he had boxed up his files on the Carla Walker murder and was giving up. If he has died in the intervening 15 months, his estate would have had to go through probate and that box of files would have been part of the estate.

Can you get to the county courthouse in Tarrant Co., Texas, to see who his executor was? If not, can you E-mail them?

--Al
The first time I tried this search I got a dead end result.
I tried the same search again and got better results.the site was down for a while.I will also try the other way and see what I'll get if anything,it might be worth the effort.Thanks!

Alf

March 30th, 2009, 11:25 PM

So..... where is Wilhoit now? That article was 2002... has Wilhoit turned up again?

He has, in a manner of speaking. He was released from prison on intensive probation -- restricted travel area, GPS ankle bracelet, and Standard Conditions, one of which was no alcohol -- in January 2003. He was arrested in March 2007 outside his approved travel area having bought beer but wasn't violated for that.

--Al

Alf

March 30th, 2009, 11:27 PM

Erm . . . oops.

The link was broken before. I had one too many "http://"s at the beginning. It's fixed now.

--Al

mickey

March 30th, 2009, 11:37 PM

it really isn't necessary to fire off a new thread every time you want to make a post about this story, mickey. If you click on the "user cp" on the left end of the second bar down then click on "subscribed threads" you will see every thread you have already posted to and you can click on the thread title and add to that thread. Any threads you have posted to that show new activity will have the title shown in bold type like this and will be moved to the top of the list.

You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, mickey.

Wikipedia showed me some 1107 pages exist that reference "john" and "terrell" and another 292 that reference "carla" and "walker". I assumed he would have been buried in texas if he had died so i checked there at findagrave.com, but the only two people there that matched names and who died in the allowable range of dates didn't match the other particulars. It is possible that det. Terrell is still alive, but the web site that he started -- http://www.justiceforcarla.com -- tells a different story. The ft. Worth weekly printed a followup in march 2004 here (http://www.fwweekly.com/content.asp?article=1396) that indicated he was still alive then and coming up fast on 74 years old, which is what i used to inform my search at findagrave.com.

If i wanted to know when det. Terrell died i think i would contact the ft worth weekly and ask them if they knew.

--althank you for this post!mickey

Alf

April 6th, 2009, 09:28 AM

Have you come up with anything, mickey? Is Det. Terrell's email address still active?

--Al

mickey

April 8th, 2009, 06:37 PM

Have you come up with anything, mickey? Is Det. Terrell's email address still active?

--Al Yes I have and I am waiting to hear from him.He happens to be using a new email address ,so I asked him to check out his old address and then email me back.
WISH ME LUCK!

Alf

April 8th, 2009, 10:20 PM

Good deal, mickey. Good luck.

--Al

Alf

April 24th, 2009, 11:38 PM

Do you have any more news, mickey?

--Al

mickey

May 20th, 2009, 05:15 PM

Good news:justiceforcarla.com web site is back online for anyone to read and give their insights on the case!

totallytoddler

May 20th, 2009, 07:01 PM

Knocked unconscious by the blow to his head, Rodney awoke to find Carla gone. With blood streaming down his face,
he drove the few short blocks to the home of Carla's parents to report the crime.

This is from the Justice For Carla sight.......I'm wondering if it was just "a few short blocks" to Carla's home.....why would they stop somewhere to use the restroom......why not wait til she got home?

That makes me question BF's story right there. Just sayin'.
And Mickey..I am sorry for the loss of your family member. She was beautiful.

http://justiceforcarla.com/main.shtml

mickey

May 21st, 2009, 07:57 PM

Thanks for being concerned!

Of what I had said before I was completely wrong as to the fact that I had thought that maybe rodney and wilhoit were working together!
I think that by taking Carla home right away would have been a better course of action at the time due to the fact that she only
lived a few short blocks from her house!

Rhoni

May 23rd, 2009, 06:23 PM

This is from the Justice For Carla sight.......I'm wondering if it was just "a few short blocks" to Carla's home.....why would they stop somewhere to use the restroom......why not wait til she got home?

That makes me question BF's story right there. Just sayin'.
And Mickey..I am sorry for the loss of your family member. She was beautiful.

http://justiceforcarla.com/main.shtml

Good catch TT..Sometimes I get so frustrated by the stories here..I want answers and sometimes they never come..It is like reading a book you can NOT put down only to discover the last chapter is missing...

mickey

August 28th, 2009, 10:02 PM

After all the noise from justice junction and me for the extra steady persistence to continue in the investigation in the case it has finally been added to the FORT WORTH PD cold case section,and has become the second in line on the site.

mickey

September 10th, 2009, 04:15 PM

Here is all the links to this case for CARLA WALKER that I found on the web!

http://justiceforcarla.com/thecase.shtml
Around midnight, she and Rodney were sitting in his car when the door was jerked open and Carla was dragged from the car. Rodney grabbed her, but was hit over the head with a pistol. The man struggling with Carla told Rodney, "I'm going to kill you."

http://www.unsolved-crimes.com/walker.html
They were getting into the car when someone jerked open the passenger door and grabbed Carla. Rodney said he struggled with the attacker but was hit over the head and knocked unconscious. He does remember the man saying, "I'm going to kill you."

http://www.justicejunction.com/carla_walker.html
On Around midnight, she and Rodney were sitting in his car when the door was jerked open and Carla was dragged from the car. Rodney grabbed her, but was hit over the head with a pistol. The man struggling with Carla told Rodney, "I'm going to kill you."

www.fortworthpd.com/1970s.htm

Synopsis:
On February 17, 1974, Carla Walker was kidnapped while she sat in a car with her boyfriend at the Ridglea Bowl parking lot.
And that is all the police have to say and gives no other details!

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3149847

This is located just under another cold case when two girls went missing from a mall #149

In 1975, there was no curfew in Ft. Worth and many kids and high school kids would stay out or sneak out their bedroom windows and stay out to all hours.
Carla Walker - the rumor around the high schools was that she and her boyfriend were actually making out in the car at the time they were attacked. The parking lot they were in was for a bowling alley located on the south side of the Benbrook Traffic Circle. According to the story I hear, they had left the car doors unlocked. The killer merely opened the door and wailed away at the boyfriend with a baseball bat. The boyfriend was badly injured and obviously attacked from behind, so, there is no way he could be considered a suspect. As to why he moved from the area, frankly, Ft. Worth doesn't have that many job opportunities compared to other cities. I'm sure he moved for the same reason I and most of my friends moved - to live in a place with job opportunities.

http://archive.fwweekly.com/content.asp?article=3219

Carla Walker was an outgoing, athletic, and popular student at Western Hills High School. She and her boyfriend, Rodney McCoy, went to a Valentines Day dance at the high school on Feb. 17, 1974 a Saturday night and, afterward, met friends at a popular drive-through restaurant not far from her parents South Fort Worth home. At about midnight, Walker said she needed to use the restroom, and McCoy drove her to a nearby bowling alley. McCoy walked her into the building and waited for her. They were getting into the car when someone jerked open the passenger door and grabbed Walker. McCoy said he struggled with the attacker but was hit over the head and knocked unconscious, although he remembered the man saying, Im going to kill you. Police later found a clip for a .22-caliber Ruger semi-automatic pistol lying in the parking lot and speculated that it had fallen from the kidnappers pistol.

http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11459

Name:Carla WalkerPlace:Fort Worth, TexasBirthdate: January 31, 1957 age 17 at time of crimeDescription:White Female
Long blonde hair
Carla was last seen wearing a light blue dress which was found at the scene when her remains were discovered.Carla and her boyfriend, Rodney,went to a Valentine's Day dance at the high school on Feb. 17, 1974, a Saturday night. Afterwards the couple met friends at a popular drive-through restaurant not far from Carla's South Fort Worth home. At approximately midnight, Carla needed to use the restroom, and Rodney drove her to a nearby bowling alley. Rodney walked her into the building and waited for her.
They were getting into the car when someone jerked open the passenger door and grabbed Carla. Rodney said he struggled with the attacker but was hit over the head and knocked unconscious. He does remember the man saying, "I'm going to kill you." Police later found a clip for a .22-caliber Ruger semi-automatic pistol lying in the parking lot and speculated that it had fallen from the kidnapper's pistol. When he awoke Carla was gone. Bleeding from his head, he drove to Carla's parents house to report her missing.
On February 20, 1974 Carla's body was found under a culvert near Benbrook Lane in Tarrant County. The medical examiner said Carla had apparently been drugged with morphine, raped, and kept alive for about two days before being strangled.
Carla Walker was an outgoing, athletic, and popular student at Western Hills High School.

Abroad

September 11th, 2009, 08:36 AM

and kept alive for about two days before being strangled

How awful. How absolutely awful.

The quotes about the boyfriend seem to indicate that he was under suspicion at some point? Poor sod. I guess at least the information about her being kept alive for two days removes the spotlight from him rather; but it makes it so much more terrifying to know that they might have had a chance of saving her.......

:dong:

mickey

September 14th, 2009, 12:27 PM

I just presented CARLA's story on A&E's cold cases and AMERICAS MOST WANTED!
http://justiceforcarla.com/

http://www.justicejunction.com/carla_walker.html (http://www.justicejunction.com/carla_walker.html)

drkeegee

September 14th, 2009, 04:25 PM

I just presented CARLA's story on A&E's cold cases and AMERICAS MOST WANTED!

Mickey do you know about an air date for either of these?

mickey

September 14th, 2009, 05:07 PM

I am not sure but I will find out when they contact me.

Rawrehz

September 14th, 2009, 06:24 PM

wow. this is verrrrry interesting and I really can't wait to see this aired on A&E. Please let us know when you have a date mickey. And so sorry for your loss.

It's amazing that you're so involved in this. Loads of respect to you! :cheers:

mickey

September 19th, 2009, 06:39 PM

There is no statue of limitations on murder!So when they catch the person who did this he can still face prosecution!

mickey

September 29th, 2009, 07:44 PM

If you eliminate the impossible whatever remains however improbable must be the truth!

fionna

October 2nd, 2009, 01:00 AM

There could be something that is right in front of the investigators eyes but they are not willing to see it or they don't want to see it!
If they remove the all the impossibilities and look at all the improbabilities there just might be something that they missed!:or they are not looking into anything and just playing mind games!

mickey

October 12th, 2009, 02:49 PM

Doesn't anyone else have a anything to say to what I posted?:hello:
I thought this site was for discussion of topics and I think I got left out of this one or like the police who lost interest in this case a long time ago?:hmmmm::gossip:

mickey

October 29th, 2009, 05:18 PM

Here is what I know (assuming that the information that I
received is correct)
A person fitting WILHOIT description was seen sitting on
the bleachers beside the race track during a track meet at
the WESTERN HILLS HIGH SCHOOL (GYM CLASS) one
or two days before she was killed!
She was an excellent runner (very athletic):gossip:

mickey

December 11th, 2009, 04:47 PM

You guys may think I'm crazy,but I looked on the web and found out that the 22-caliber Ruger semi-automatic pistol is standard issue for the US army and possibly the police.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Standard

LestYeBeJudged

December 11th, 2009, 05:34 PM

Good luck, Mickey and keep going. We're reading and caring even if we aren't responding.

mickey

December 18th, 2009, 08:09 PM

I am not sure that this is the kind of car that WILHOIT was driving at the time but it might be!
http://www.orange.co.uk/cars/picturegalleries/pics/5496_1.htm?linkfrom=hp4&link=secondary_pos_1_link_1&article=0904301700x4sec1carsrippontiac19262010

MadeaBecBec

December 19th, 2009, 06:04 PM

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff307/MadeaBecBec/Mugshots/WilliamTedWilhoit-1974and2003.jpg
William Ted Wilhoit in 1974 and in 2003

These photos are here: http://www.justiceforcarla.com/thecase.shtml and here: http://www.justiceforcarla.com/thesuspect.shtml

All you Texas ladies-Beware!!!

mickey

January 7th, 2010, 04:12 PM

I think she was buried in GREENWOOD Cemetery,, Tarrant, Texas.If anyone wants to pay their respects.

mickey

January 11th, 2010, 03:49 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Standard
The Ruger Standard model is a firearm introduced in 1949 as the first product manufactured by Sturm, Ruger and Company, and was the founding member of a product line of .22 Long Rifle rimfire cartridge pistols. It was marketed as an inexpensive .22 caliber rimfire intended for casual sport and target shooting, and plinking. Created by firearms expert and Renaissance man William B. Ruger, the Standard model and its offspring went on to become the most accepted and successful .22 semi-automatic pistol ever produced.

Blued Ruger Standard model, 1963 production
Aftermarket adjustable sights
Designer William Ruger
Designed 1949
Manufacturer Sturm, Ruger
Produced 1949-present
Variants

* MK I Target
* MK II
* MK II Target
* MK II Government Target
* Competition model
* MK III
* MK III Target
* 22/45

Alf

January 11th, 2010, 04:31 PM

That is a stretch, mickie. The police and military may use it for training, but the 22 -- while an effective killer of people -- does not have the punch to be a stopper. For that matter when I trained with a handgun it was with my duty weapon, not a subcaliber variant or some workalike.

--Al

mickey

January 12th, 2010, 05:05 PM

So what if someone has information would anybody actually listen? NO!
And if JESUS returned would anyone notice? probably not!
REINCARNATION:If carla returned to earth as someone else would her cries be heard? Not likely!:lollypop:
It is easy to be skeptical about such things!

Alf

January 14th, 2010, 12:51 AM

I don't think that you're going to find Carla's murderer among the ranks of either the police department or the military simply because the maker of the pistol used in her kidnapping made a model they called a Government Target Model 12 years after she died. The conventional wisdom seems to be that Wilhoit was the perpetrator. If you can show that he dropped out of sight for two or three days after Carla was kidnapped and that he possessed a Ruger Standard Model then that would add to the evidence that the conventional wisdom is correct.

--Al

mickey

January 14th, 2010, 02:08 PM

According to former detective John Terrell that the clip came from a .22 caliber ruger pistol!
I don't know what model.

Alf

January 14th, 2010, 07:20 PM

According to former detective John Terrell that the clip came from a .22 caliber ruger pistol!
I don't know what model.

Lots of television shows and movies make a habit of piss-poor (pardon my bluntness) gun handling practices -- like pointing a gun at somebody as a threat then using it as a bludgeon. The result is either a broken gun or one that is missing the magazine. Anybody that has handled real firearms in real-world situations understands that, and those that know that their weapon can be used to save their life or that of somebody else not only understand that, they live it.

Is Wilhoit a big action-picture fan?

--Al

mickey

January 21st, 2010, 07:17 PM

Twisted

January 21st, 2010, 07:20 PM

This is from the story that is posted on t JUSTICE JUNCTION site about this case and of the weapon that was probably used was what I had posted earlier:
"There would be a total of six disappearances both before and a year or so after Carla's murder. One woman was shot five times in the face (but survived)".
The question is how she had survived from the "five" bullets that hit her?
The fact that the bullets that were used were probably flat nosed target bullets!
And the fact that a gun shot at close range ( two to five feet away) would have killed her instantly!

While I'm not saying that this is the case here, I would point out that people have survived more traumatic injury than this one. When I was studying language and cognition in college we discussed a case where a man had attempted suicide with a shotgun under his chin. It shot out half his brain, but he did survive.

It's extremely unlikely, but possible, that her brain worked around the damage and she survived.

mickey

March 5th, 2010, 01:10 PM

Thanks for the birthday wishes sent to my e-mail!:birthday:

mickey

March 5th, 2010, 01:39 PM

removed

mickey

March 6th, 2010, 04:54 AM

I believe she may have been Wilhoit's friend and that Rodney was
possessive and overly protective of her ,and that he was not allowing her to see anyone else but
RODNEY!
She could not have any friends but only he could!
CARLA was very popular at school and This probably made RODNEY jealous!They might have gotten into a verbal argument over it and then Rodney had taken it out on CARLA for being with WIHOIT!
After the argument it was then RODNEY decided to end the relationship!
Carla got along with everyone and that she tried to help out whenever she could! She made a lot of friends,especially at school.
She made friends with WIHOIT but didn't know anything about him but that she probably didn't let bother her.

And just why did WIHOIT cry in the interrogation room when he was just
about to spill his guts about the case,and he just stopped when there
was knock on the door!?
Because he had just lost his friend!

Rodney left town soon after,And after Rodney had left town the killings just stopped!
am probably wrong about this too!
I don't know for sure.
If RODNEY really loved her he would have stuck around in order to find the real killer.I myself can't see why he wouldn't do just that and not just move away like some kind of cop-out.
A way of avoiding the situation!
Why would RODNEY feel guilty if he didn't do it?I like to ask as to why would RODNEY would go anywhere near to where
WILHOIT lived if not to prove a point!
Shift the blame to someone else that's what for!
If RODNEY had any idea or knowledge of what WILHOIT was like he would never have put CARLA in harms way.
On that particular day and that particular time!
It would be easy to pin the crime on WILHOIT!

How convenient!:

mickey

March 6th, 2010, 03:22 PM

I like to ask as to why would RODNEY would go anywhere near to where
WILHOIT lived if not to prove a point!
Shift the blame to someone else that's what for!
If RODNEY had any idea or knowledge of what WILHOIT was like he would never have put CARLA in harms way.
On that particular day and that particular time!
It would be easy to pin the crime on WILHOIT!

How convenient!::confused2:

mickey

March 16th, 2010, 03:12 AM

Justice junction is supposed to be an open forum,but according to people who run it have other ideas: like making fun of what I posted by Making rude and ridicules comments!
I wanted to be kicked off the web site!
They wanted me off the web site also for being disrespectful to them and going against the terms of service.
I can't see why or how? What exactly did I do?
No one really has a clue as to what happened because they were not there when it took place.
Sure I am probably just guessing at the stuff I said,but what if I am partially right!
Who really knows for sure?
There is a lot of questions that need to be answered and the only person who could answer them is no where to be found!
That's what kept JOHN TERRELL at it all these years.:questionmark:

mickey

April 9th, 2010, 04:28 PM

If Rodney McCoy was hit over the head with a gun
(Supposedly) why didn't any come to his aid?
Lets speculate that it never happened the way that he
said!
Maybe he hit his head on the trunk lid hatch!
Then drove to the lake to dump the body and then headed
for CARLA"S parents house to report the crime!
Lets say that she was left for dead trying to stay alive
for two days but couldn't and finally died as a result
of her injuries and from the drug that was given to her!
If Rodney McCoy had done the crime he would have gotten
off Scot-free,and that Ted hilhoit was somehow involved
in this plot as well!
I myself feel that there is more to this then meets the
eye!
I'll get over this once somebody realizes that the
things I said are merely suggestions and possibilities
of what could have happened.(after thoughts)
(justicejunction.com)Annarocket is skeptical and she needs to have an open
mind!
I'm not saying that the things I said are true in any
way but that they are things to put into consideration!
Justice Junction slogan is: the pursuit of justice!
I like for them to live up to it!
IF they didn't want feed back why did they
post the article on the site and in the discussion board
in the first place?
That is what concerns me!
And the other thing that concerns me is to see this case
solved!

mickey

April 10th, 2010, 12:39 PM

John F. Terrell (1930 - 2010)
Photo
John F. Terrell, 79, passed away Sunday, April 4, 2010.
Graveside service: 10 a.m. Friday in Laurel Land Memorial Park of Fort Worth.
Memorials: A children's charity of choice.
John was born April 24, 1930, in Bexar County. He was a Fort Worth police detective from 1961 to 1986. He lived in Burleson for 44 years.
The family would like to give a very special thank-you to the caregivers of Odyssey Health Care, especially to D'Wanda.
John was preceded in death by his loving wife, Frances Terrell; parents, Henry and Linda Terrell; sister, Pauline Terrell Seay; and brother, Henry A. Terrell.
Survivors: Sons, Donnie Terrell (Freda) of Burleson and Billy Terrell of Fort Worth; granddaughters, Shauna Terrell-Price (Wade) of Burleson and NaTasha Terrell of Burleson; great-grandchildren, Kendall, Garrett, Gunner, Blayne and Ely of Burleson; and his faithful dog, Clifford.

Read more: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dfw/obituary.aspx?n=john-f-terrell&pid=141592715#ixzz0kiRc3ODr

mickey

July 25th, 2010, 02:37 AM

WHY I DON't BELIEVE THE STORY
The story at the beginning is the story RODNEY MCOY gave to the police at the time.

Carla was last seen wearing a light blue dress which was found at the scene when her remains were discovered.Carla and her boyfriend, Rodney,went to a Valentine's Day dance at the high school on Feb. 17, 1974, a Saturday night. Afterwards the couple met friends at a popular drive-through restaurant not far from Carla's South Fort Worth home. At approximately midnight, Carla needed to use the restroom, and Rodney drove her to a nearby bowling alley. Rodney walked her into the building and waited for her.
They were getting into the car when someone jerked open the passenger door and grabbed Carla. Rodney said he struggled with the attacker but was hit over the head and knocked unconscious. He does remember the man saying, "I'm going to kill you." Police later found a clip for a .22-caliber Ruger semi-automatic pistol lying in the parking lot and speculated that it had fallen from the kidnapper's pistol. When he awoke Carla was gone. Bleeding from his head, he drove to Carla's parents house to report her missing.
On February 20, 1974 Carla's body was found under a culvert near Benbrook Lane in Tarrant County. The medical examiner said Carla had apparently been drugged with morphine, raped, and kept alive for about two days before being strangled.
Carla Walker was an outgoing, athletic, and popular student at Western Hills High School.
.22-caliber Ruger semi-automatic pistol has a safety lock (catch) to prevent the magazine (clip) from falling out of (dislodging) from the gun accidentally.
The problem is that the police believed his story,and was released as he was not considered a suspect.
The only person who was around to tell of what happened and was able to convince the police.

mickey

July 25th, 2010, 02:53 AM

They were getting into the car when someone jerked open the passenger door and grabbed Carla. Rodney said he struggled with the attacker but was hit over the head and knocked unconscious. He does remember the man saying, "I'm going to kill you."
If this is what happened:How could RODNEY hear what the man was saying if he was knocked unconscious?

mickey

November 20th, 2010, 05:47 PM

I found out that a man name James Mitchell ("Mike") DeBardeleben II lived in or about the same area that CARLA WALKER lived and that he looks a lot like William Ted Wilhoit!
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/predators/debardeleben/index_1.html
You can find out more when other people start talking!
[http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98030&page=18

mickey

September 25th, 2011, 07:37 PM

http://www.cleburnetimesreview.com/opinion/x1687716251/Pete-Kendall-Crime-fighter-Terrell-pursued-murder-suspect-to-the-end
(http://www.cleburnetimesreview.com/opinion/x1687716251/Pete-Kendall-Crime-fighter-Terrell-pursued-murder-suspect-to-the-end)

It was not wWILHOIT's 'mo'(modus operandi) to go after someone that was with
anyone else.He would stalk women when they were left alone at their home!
If you go to:panther's rest a cry for justice:
The bowling alley in question is the one located at the corner of Marquita DR
and Ruby PL one the west side of the Weatherford traffic circle.The bowling
alley was called at the time the 'BRUNSWICK' bowling alley.the other bowling
alley was called THE RIDGLEA BOWL which was a skating rink and then a theater.It
is located on CAMP BOWIE BLVD and Bryant Irvin RD.
Wilhoit lived in that area not in BENBROOK.
After reading all the info of the crime I noticed a oddities:Carla and her
boyfriend drove to the bowling alley to use the washroom,then Rodney walked her
to the main door and then waited for her outside.Just when they got back in the
car the door on the passenger side was yanked open.The man struggling with Carla
told Rodney 'I going to kill you'.
Why didn't he?
The man had all the opportunity to do so!
Taking in to consideration of where the street light was to the front of where
the main door was to the bowling alley,and to the place where their car was
parked,and the fact that the lights were turned off at 12:30 am when the place
closed for the night:
I am amazed that anyone could or would be able to see anything exempt for a
silhouette or even what color of hair the man had!
One important note is:3400 Ramona is where she lived before the other lane of
traffic was installed on CAMP BOWIE BLVD in the year 2000.
(a few blocks from her home is where the bowling was located.The restaurant at
the time was A&W that had just opened in BENBROOK TEXAS.
I got most if the info from a person who used to live in the area and the
research I did on the internet!
The police only got one side of the story of the crime only because Rodney McCoy was the only one there to tell of what happened!
But what if there is more then he is letting on!
why didn't the police do a thorough investigation on him?
Why didn't anyone,even the police stop to see if he was OK if he was slumped over in the passenger side of the car with the door to the car open?
Or was he there at all?
Why didn't Rodney McCoy (if he loved CARLA WALKER) stay in Benbrook to help find the killer?
Anybody with sense in their head would have tried to pursue his girlfriends abduction and murder like John F. Terrell?
Why did Rodney McCoy leave BENBROOK area and move to Austin Texas?
Was it because of a reminder of the crime or something else!
I think I know the real reason why WILLIAM TED WILHOIT cried in the interrogation room!
One question that should have been asked is to how William Ted Wilhoit knew the name of victim (CARLA WALKER) unless he was told who she was days before the time of the crime unless it was a planned attack?
William Ted Wilhoit was a thief and maybe he stole the morphine,but who is the one who used it?

It takes approximately 20 minutes to wake up from a concussion to the head. and thus being dazed and confused and then realizing as to what happened it would take quite a while to get his senses together in order to drive to her parents house to report the crime.
It takes approximately 15 – 20 minutes to drive to the lake and then the same amount of time time to drive back to town. It takes about a half hour for the blood to congeal (dry) on his forehead if laying in the front with his head facing up.
McCoy drove to the Walker’ home and banged on the door for help. Eleven year old Jim Walker opened it and stared at the young man whose face was streaming with blood. Carla’s parents listened in horror as Rodney tried to explain what had happened.
It would sound really convincing to the police who took it for granted that Rodney McCoy was telling the truth.
The drive through restaurant was located on REAGAN DR.just across from the auto parts store and CHAPEL AVE.
he name of the drive-in restaurant was known as the Kuntz's Drive-In formally A&W.
might be wrong,but Ithink the drive-in burned to the ground due to a grease fire.

mickey

September 25th, 2011, 08:38 PM

mickey

October 27th, 2011, 07:34 PM

http://www.justiceforcarla.webs.com/

http://hinzd.webs.com/acryforjustice.htm
Panther's Rest
History of the Fort Worth Police Department 1873 - 21st Century

A Cry For Justice

Metropolis: Wednesday, May 8, 2003
http://archive.fwweekly.com/content.asp?article=2229
The DNA That Wasn’t There
http://archive.fwweekly.com/content.asp?article=3020
All the houses along the blvd on the south side were torn down to make way for the new lane of traffic entering FORT WORTH west.

https://campbowiedistrict.com/

http://www.museumplace.com/about/history/

http://www.historiccampbowiemercantile.com/

http://archive.fwweekly.com/content.asp?article=2578

Keeping the Heat on Murder

To the editor: I read with interest the article �Cold Case Firefight� (Dec. 5, 2002). My interest stems from my own efforts to solve the 1974 murder of Carla Walker, featured in your paper on April 25, 2002 (�Murder & Obsession�).

Like Hector Carrillo, I, too, contacted the Texas attorney general�s office, as well as the Texas Rangers a few years ago. This was done only after I felt the Fort Worth police did not plan to provide any help to the family of the murder victim. Failing to obtain any help from either of those agencies, I turned to the news media. There was a lot of attention to the Carla Walker murder over the years, and it was named the 1974 story of the year by the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

All who were involved then in the investigation of Carla�s murder are now retired or deceased. After I retired in 1986, the police department slammed the door in my face, and an order was issued not to provide me with information. I continued my efforts after retirement and was able to provide information that helped solve a rape in Abilene and set free a man wrongfully convicted of assault in Fort Worth. Both these crimes were committed by the person I suspect murdered Carla Walker.

The citizens of Fort Worth, especially victims� families, should have the best efforts by those now holding the responsibility of solving cases, both current and those from years past. The Walker case is now in the hands of the Texas Rangers, who have formed a new Cold Case Unit, featured in the July 7, 2002, issue of Fort Worth Weekly (�Heating Up Cold Cases�). It is a known fact that police departments have more cases than investigators can handle. For that reason, they should welcome anyone who is willing to help, especially retired people with experience and time to contribute. Authorities should be made aware that closed doors and lack of interest will not be accepted.

J.F. Terrell

Fort Worth Police Department, retired and now deceased.

I wonder where J.F. Terrell got his information or did he make it all up! (assumed) and after close to forty years has not been sovled!