Who the hell would name their kid Adolf Hitler?

[Jaded]

Heath Campbell...that's who. Heath and his wife Deborah have three children: Adolf Hitler Campbell, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell, Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell. Lovely children, not so lovely names.

The Campbell's are in the news because they are mad as hell that a local grocery store, ShopRite, won't inscribe a happy birthday wish to Adolf Hitler on a birthday cake. Little Adolf is turning 3.

"We believe the request ... to inscribe a birthday wish to Adolf Hitler is inappropriate," said Karen Meleta, a ShopRite spokeswoman.

ShopRite did offer to make the child a cake and leave it up to the parents to inscribe...the Campbell's turned down that offer.

Now...aside from the fact that the Campbell's are complete idiots for blessing their children with such names, is ShopRite in the wrong?

Story here...
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/today/index.ssf/2008/12/holland_township_family_angry.html

Pics here...
http://photos.lehighvalleylive.com/gallery/4424/Adolf%20Hitler%20Campbell

[DarkPrincess]

Pete.

[Shellie435]

ROFL DP!!! My thoughts exactly! Mr Pete, it's your turn to chime in....

[Nell]

Yes. While it is a stupid, thoughtless name bestowed upon an innocent child by obvious bigoted morons the store is being just a little too PC in my opinion. I mean, that is the childs name. It isn't like they wanted the cake inscribed "Happy Birthday Adolph Hitler, thanks for killing all those nasty jews for us!" Are they going to refuse to inscribe any name or cake they don't agree with? All they are doing is losing business.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

They are losing this family's business but I bet they are picking up the business of a bunch of other folks.

Personally, I think they should have done it as it is the kid's name. But it's their choice.


Pete, where are you?

[blue_zombie]

I thought that if we chanted Pete's name three times, he usually showed up in a bubble of brimstone, with a wart on his nose, and a newt in his pocket for his next spell. Where are you oh Pete?

[sanityslipping]

I understand both point of views, and I can only HOPE that those children grow up and have views that differ from their parents. I'm quite certain those children are being taught hate. Why couldn't the parents just get a birthday cake for Adolf? Do they really need to have Hitler on there? The store probably wouldn't object as much.

[SoUncool]

Pete.

I was going to say the same exact thing...Pete would name his kid Adolf Hitler.

As far as the grocery store not doing the cake, yes, I do think they were wrong. They should have just filled the customer's request and taken the money. Did anybody even have to know they did this other than their happy customer? No. Would they deny a request for a Halloween cake with Happy Birthday Satan on it? Interesting policies if indeed it is an actual policy...

[CPL CHUD]

I've heard dumber names. There was a kid I went to school with whom was named Shithead. There was a pair of twins from around where I grew up named Orangejello and Lemonjello.

[sanityslipping]

I've heard dumber names. There was a kid I went to school with whom was named Shithead. There was a pair of twins from around where I grew up named Orangejello and Lemonjello.

I went to school with some sisters named Princess and Precious, and yeah, they thought they justly deserved those names. Spoiled fuckin brats. Went to buy a car on time with my dad, and a sales lady came out and I swear to go, in a severe kentucky twang, said " Hi, I'm Special" SOOOO hard not to bust up right there. Atleast these women had names that were nice, albeit odd. The name that really gets me here is Aryan Nation

[Silvahalo]

This child is innocent of any negative connotation the name Adolf Hitler invokes.

A name is what you make it...yeah, this ones going to be hard to shake but the kid shouldn't have to pay the price of her ridiculous and stupid parents. I say put the freak'n name on the cake and give the girl a balloon...she's a girl after all maybe that will take some of the negativity away...sweet kid.

http://photos.lehighvalleylive.com/photos/express-times/bb69edc87e11859aa834a7747042f295_150.jpg

[Owd Scrat]

Oh for fucking gods sake.....it's just a NAME, the people are being asses. I can see them refusing it was THE Adolf Hitler himself.

[sanityslipping]

For some reason I can't stop thinking about this. I just looked at the pictures, and while the kids are cute, and appear to be taken care of, and even get birthday cakes, I kinda want them to be taken. Is that wrong of me? I mean, these kids are growing up in a house full of swastikas! I just feel like these kids are being brought up in a house full of prejudice and hate, instead of being taught kindness, compassion, tolerance and understanding. Isn't there anything that can be done? I hope little Adolf, and Aryan grow up, and fall in love with a nice jewish man, and then racist bigoted daddy can have a heart attack.
What, do you think, are the chances of these kids overcoming growing up in a situation such as this?

[~Absynthe~]

the first th Ffirstiperson that came to my mind was PETE

[sanityslipping]

she's a girl after all maybe that will take some of the negativity away...sweet kid.


Actually, Little Adolf is indeed a boy. Look at the birth certificate. Kid just needs a haircut.
After more thought, and more useless posts, I have this to say, and I think this will be my final post on the subject, maybe. This one is bugging me.
It's wrong of the store to not put the name on the cake. The children should not be punished for the ways of the parents. However, it is also wrong for the parents to name their children this. People are often judged on things that they have no control over. While pregnant with my daughter, I was reading a baby name book, that mentioned the need to think far ahead when naming your child, think about trying to fill out an application for a job, or college with this as your name so while you might not mind being called Skankalicious, it's not an appropriate name for a child. Even if the children do manage to overcome the hate that is being bred into them, most people will automatically assume, based on their names alone, that they are neo-nazis as well. Do you realize, the trials these kids are going to go through because their parents are idiot jerks? The only one who stands a chance is Honszlynn Hinler, and that's because nobody can figure out what the origins of her name are (most speculated guess is Himmler), and hers could just be a foreign family name.

[Peeperann]

Yeah the store is being stupid, but my concern is for the children. How horrible, That these sweet innocent children are being indoctrinated into such hate.

They are going to most likely grow up hating people of different color, religion, ect. It just makes me so sad..................

[TheLittleFriend]

Aw, just write the name and don't tell! They are looking for the attention.

[Death Bed]

I know how horrible the names are, but I want to laugh all the same at the audacity of it.

[Envy]

If it weren't for the house full of swastikas I'd think the people were trying to take to the name back. i just hope the poor boy doesn't try to grow a mustache when he gets older...

[penelopejo]

wait, those pics are of stuff they own and tats on their bodies. WOW!!! I have a problem with that. I just hope those children are not being exposed to that lifestyle but if it's on their body and family car, then I think that they are being exposed to it. So sad that innocent children are brought into this world to be brought up by ignorant parents.

But that's aside from the point that a grocery store would not put a 6 yr olds name on his birthday cake. Fucking INSANE!!!! Poor kid, he's probably thinking, well, what's wrong with Adolf?

So, are we treating Pete like Beetlejuice? Okay, I'll say it 3 times in a row..

Pete, Pete, Pete.......anything?

[Jessiesgirl1108]

Thought this was an interesting article on the subject.http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2008/12/16/open-thread-question-is-naming-a-child-%E2%80%9Cadolf-hitler%E2%80%9D-child-abuse/

[Just my luck sucks]

It's all fun and games 'til the kid starts getting pummeled at school.

Now I see the reasoning behind government approval of names in some countries. Those poor kids.

[evervigilant]

It's not the child's fault , they should just make the fucking cake ! Isn't there a law against giving your child offensive or "too" ridiculous names ? There should be . There was a 9 year old girl from New Zealand , who a judge made a ward of the court to have her name changed . Her really thick parents had named her Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii ! Most ridiculous name I've ever heard .

[RaVen Blackehart]

http://i39.tinypic.com/2hr25pu.jpg

[Nell]

Actually, Little Adolf is indeed a boy. Look at the birth certificate. Kid just needs a haircut.
After more thought, and more useless posts, I have this to say, and I think this will be my final post on the subject, maybe. This one is bugging me.
It's wrong of the store to not put the name on the cake. The children should not be punished for the ways of the parents. However, it is also wrong for the parents to name their children this. People are often judged on things that they have no control over. While pregnant with my daughter, I was reading a baby name book, that mentioned the need to think far ahead when naming your child, think about trying to fill out an application for a job, or college with this as your name so while you might not mind being called Skankalicious, it's not an appropriate name for a child. Even if the children do manage to overcome the hate that is being bred into them, most people will automatically assume, based on their names alone, that they are neo-nazis as well. Do you realize, the trials these kids are going to go through because their parents are idiot jerks? The only one who stands a chance is Honszlynn Hinler, and that's because nobody can figure out what the origins of her name are (most speculated guess is Himmler), and hers could just be a foreign family name.

I totally agree with thinking about how a name will affect your child. My youngest child is named Serendipity, which is a funny name I will admit. But I thought ahead, to what she might want to be when she grows up. What if she wants to be a lawyer like her aunt, or a judge like her grandfather? So she has a totally normal middle name, Jacquelyn. Always give your child an option if you want to go with an unusual first name.

[DarkPrincess]

I thought that if we chanted Pete's name three times, he usually showed up in a bubble of brimstone, with a wart on his nose, and a newt in his pocket for his next spell. Where are you oh Pete?


I think we have to sacrifice some goats around a campfire, while reciting Mein Kampf backwards. In Spanish. With subtitles.

[brokenandtwisted]

If I were to ever have a daughter (God forbid), I'd name her Myra. Not after the British serial killer...I just like the name. So, booo.

Stigma > Logic

^ My point. If you don't have any brain cells you won't understand the point anyway.

[flawed_existence]

I would have gone ahead and made the cake. After all, they weren't celebrating the birth of the Nazi, Adolf Hitler, but of their little boy, who happens to have a truly awful name.

Definitely agree with folks who've mentioned that the poor children are being raised with hatred and bigotry. Racism and xenophobia are alive and well in that household.

I do wonder what's going to happen to the child in school. Maybe the other kids will just call him "Cartman"....

[sanityslipping]

I totally agree with thinking about how a name will affect your child. My youngest child is named Serendipity, which is a funny name I will admit. But I thought ahead, to what she might want to be when she grows up. What if she wants to be a lawyer like her aunt, or a judge like her grandfather? So she has a totally normal middle name, Jacquelyn. Always give your child an option if you want to go with an unusual first name.

While not a common name name, I actually think Serendipity is beautiful. And, you were nice, and gave her options, for when she's a grown up, and even if she doesn't want to go by Jacquelyn, she could chose to be called Sara, just shortening her name. I always wanted to give my children beautiful uncommon names, but my husband is a tad boring, so we went with Rebecca. I never call her that tho. To me, she is Boogie (she dances.... a lot) I understand thinking out of the box on names. I'm gonna say it, just this once..... My first name is Amanda.... There are WAY to many Amanda's. It sucks, and was confusing in school when I always had at least 3 Amanda's in class with me. But, there is a difference between naming your kids something a little different, a little off the beaten track, and naming your kids after one of the worlds most hated men. I mean, they could have named him Adolf, and it wouldn't have been a big deal, but they had to go the extra mile, and add in the Hitler. And Aryan Nation....wtf man?

[Athena]

It's a private business. They reserve the right to blah, blah, blah. End game.

But, should we care to postulate... The tragedy, here, is not that an establishment exercised its right to dictate its business. It is, as many have stated, the fact that a couple of nimrods gave their kids douchebag names.

These parents KNEW their children would suffer as the result of these names. They clearly didn't care. For them to be appalled by the actions of this business is pretty fuckin' ironic, if you ask me.

There is a natural reaction to the stigma that surrounds those names. Those parents willfully exposed their children to that. And, while I feel terrible for those children, I hope those parents have hell to pay over the years for what they've done. Because, in reality, a name is NOT just a name, or what a person makes of it. A name is a primary identifier. These parents chose to identify their babies with one of the most vicious slaughters in modern history.

Oh, and me personally? I'd tell them to get the hell out of my store and that they weren't welcome back... EVER. Lost business? Pfft... Who needs the business of a couple of neo-Nazi morons? I think this business will survive just fine.

[Jaded]

Instead of making a big stink out of it, and allowing pictures of their fascination with Nazism to be shown on the internet, why the hell couldn't they write the damn name on the cake themselves?

And, I think both parents should be bitch-slapped for forcing those names on their children.

[Athena]

If I were to ever have a daughter (God forbid), I'd name her Myra. Not after the British serial killer...I just like the name. So, booo.

Stigma > Logic

^ My point. If you don't have any brain cells you won't understand the point anyway.

The percentage of the population that would make that association is negligible. :P

That said, while stigmas are quite often contrary to logic, these people fully intended to identify their children with the Holocaust. They DID name their children after evil individuals with the intent to evoke reaction. They're just getting what they asked for.

[petrina]

yeah i am a little torn. just a little. once i tried to order 144 pencils from Oriental Trading Co that said "sorry about your penis". they said it was offensive and wouldnt do it. i didnt sue, but i pouted.

for me, "sorry about your penis" is not as offensive as Adolf Hitler - which may as well be Mighty Jew Killer - imo. but would i feel the same way it it were "sorry about your vagina"? would i be ok with that? i think i would. what if it said I Love Baby Rapers" - i would have a problem with that.

so i would rather not have a ruling on what is and isnt offensive - or i would be ruled offensive for sure. but i agree that private companies have the right to say no.

and i will find my pencils elsewhere.

[pissedoffindaytona]

God, I read this in the paper this am, these people are stupid skinheads, who have no idea what the fuck they did to this kid naming him that, It's just outrageous and this kid will be crucified all because his parents are fucking stupid. :crazy:

[Jaded]

Interesting editorial....


First, let's state the obvious: Parents get to raise their kids as they see fit, absent abuse, neglect or provable deprivation. That includes imbuing children with values the parents deem appropriate.

And let's state that Heath and Deborah Campbell, a young couple who live in Holland Township, have the right to name their three children as they wish. They chose to name them Adolf Hitler, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation and Honszlyn Hinler Jeannie -- all inspired, the parents admit, by figures of the Third Reich.

Predictably, hell has broken loose in response -- online, in letters, in the demand for the Campbells to appear on talk shows, etc. The opinions range from condemnation to support.

The Campbells' right to select their children's names is inviolable. The same goes for a business' right to reject the sale of a commercial expression it deems offensive.

But those rights are not the heart of this testy debate. Rather, it's the idea that 1) even in our cynical times, there still are symbols that deserve condemnation because of their historical meaning, and 2) kids need protecting.

If parents made mistakes in their younger days or suffered at the hands of abusive parents, their great second chance in life is to try to steer their kids away from the pitfalls.

There's plenty of irony to go around here, including the fact the parents, who are benefitting from Social Security disability aid, chose to glorify a political movement that embraced eugenics and death camps to weed out the weak. And the unwanted. And the politically incorrect.

Likewise, Heath Campbell says that he was subjected to racist views in his own upbringing. The possibility that he and his wife are retracing the steps of the previous generation through the identities they've hung on their kids is impossible to ignore.

Then, there's the cowardice. If Heath and Deborah are enamored with Nazi surnames, why didn't they adopt them as their own? Instead, they're letting a 1-, 2- and 3-year-old front for them.

It's not surprising that the Campbells are feeling a public backlash -- possibly to the point they might be worried about their security.

Two thoughts here: They might want to look up the meaning of "Kristallnacht" and try to understand the roots of such an occurrence -- when the government is coming for you, rather than protecting your political freedom.

And two, as they seek to preserve a thread of fascism through a familial honor, they should think of their kids' kids -- and whether their freedom to raise their children as they wish will still be intact.

Today that right is alive and well. Whatever we think of the Campbells' choices -- however cruel it is to stigmatize those we are obliged to nurture and protect -- we must recognize their right to make those choices.

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/opinion/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1229576747306690.xml&coll=3

[CPL CHUD]

In the end the parents have complete freedom to choose whatever names they deem fit for their children and try to instill whatever belief system they choose for their children, whether a majority of people agree with it, or are offended by it. To argue otherwise is in fact fascist.

[Athena]

In the end the parents have complete freedom to choose whatever names they deem fit for their children and try to instill whatever belief system they choose for their children, whether a majority of people agree with it, or are offended by it. To argue otherwise is in fact fascist.

Was anyone really trying to argue otherwise, though? Sure, they have the right, and I think everyone understands that. What some, namely the Campbells, seem to have difficulty understanding is the fact that their right to name children as they see fit does not supercede a business' right to deny them service (or shouldn't, anyway, but courts never cease to amaze me).

These assholes named their kids this way looking to pick a fight. Well, now they've got one, and it won't be their last. Sadly, these children have to suffer as a result.

[Death Bed]

There was a pair of twins from around where I grew up named Orangejello and Lemonjello.

DUDE, my sister went to high school with those guys!

As for these kids in this article...

http://www.flickscribe.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/valkyrie-02.jpg

[Morticia]

I wonder if I'll have the same issue when it's little Beelzebub's birthday.......

[CPL CHUD]

Was anyone really trying to argue otherwise, though? Why does there have to be an argument? I was just stating my opinion.

Punk.

[Jaded]

Wal-Mart personalized the cake for little Adolf.

This isn't the first time the Campbells have been turned down by ShopRite...they have had run-ins with the store on a few different occasions. They have asked for cakes decorated with a swastika. Sounds to me like they just wanna stir shit up...

[Pete Bondurant]

Who the hell would name their kid Adolf Hitler?


Awww......isn't little Adi ze cutest?


http://aboutfacts.net/Strange/ST28/BabyHitler.jpg

[DarkPrincess]

Wal-Mart personalized the cake for little Adolf.

This isn't the first time the Campbells have been turned down by ShopRite...they have had run-ins with the store on a few different occasions. They have asked for cakes decorated with a swastika. Sounds to me like they just wanna stir shit up...


You could tell a Wal-Mart employee to go take a shit in your neighbor's driveway and they'd probably do it. They don't get paid enough to care. Honestly, I would've just made the damn cake. It IS their child's name. If they wanted a big ole swastika on it, even better. If someone got pissed about the cake, I'd point to them and say "they ordered it. I just don't wanna lose my job, so I made it." Might make for a good show.

[petrina]

i dare you to go to the nearest walmart and ask for a cake that says "happy birthday Nun Raper"

[malq]

I see it as simple
You can name your fucking kid anything you want. Is it abuse? sure.. eventually long term problems may result. But, there is no law saying you cannot give your kid a shitty name. Nor should there be. Look at all the goofy names that came out in the late 60's and 70's.
In the same breath, a Wallmart employee should be able to say, I'm not making it. Dumb fosters dumb and there will always be dumb people.
I like Chuds comment best.

[penelopejo]

I see it as simple
You can name your fucking kid anything you want. Is it abuse? sure.. eventually long term problems may result. But, there is no law saying you cannot give your kid a shitty name. Nor should there be. Look at all the goofy names that came out in the late 60's and 70's.
In the same breath, a Wallmart employee should be able to say, I'm not making it. Dumb fosters dumb and there will always be dumb people.
I like Chuds comment best.

Especially where the one he calls Athena a punk.......I just about fell out my chair from laughter...

[DarkPrincess]

i dare you to go to the nearest walmart and ask for a cake that says "happy birthday Nun Raper"

That would be awesome. I would try to make it sound like a foreign name though and then spell it out. If they refuse to do it, I'll raise Hell and say it's discrimination. Now I HAVE to do this. lol

[Rockin Ma]

Wal-Mart personalized the cake for little Adolf.

This isn't the first time the Campbells have been turned down by ShopRite...they have had run-ins with the store on a few different occasions. They have asked for cakes decorated with a swastika. Sounds to me like they just wanna stir shit up...

I read about this somewhere else. It didn't mention their other children's names and they sounded hurt by the stores actions and said something along the lines of why would they do that? It's just a name, we are not nazi's we have kids from other races coming to the party, it's just not fair, blah blah blah.
Bet their kids change their names when they are old enough, if they aren't brainwashed into the nazi society. Didn't Hitler's brother's children agree to just not have children so the name could die out? I thought I saw that on TV the other day.

[evervigilant]

If I were to ever have a daughter (God forbid), I'd name her Myra. Not after the British serial killer...I just like the name. So, booo.

Stigma > Logic

^ My point. If you don't have any brain cells you won't understand the point anyway.

What about Moira or Moyra ? Nice Irish name , sounds similar without the stigma lol !

[Pete Bondurant]

What about Moira or Moyra ? Nice Irish name , sounds similar without the stigma lol !

I've always been rather fond of the name Madeleine.

[Athena]

Especially where the one he calls Athena a punk.......I just about fell out my chair from laughter...

*Sigh*

No love...

[Jessiesgirl1108]

http://blog.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county_impact/2009/01/large_adolfhitler.JPG

Heath Campbell holds his 1-year-old, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell.State authorities have removed Adolf Hilter Campbell and his two sisters from their parents' home in Holland Township, township police Chief David Van Gilson said today.
New Jersey's Division of Youth and Family Services took the 3-year-old, as well as JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell, 1, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, who turns 1 in April, the chief said.

The parents, Heath and Deborah Campbell, were to appear for a hearing today at the Hunterdon County Justice Center, the chief said, but the hearing was postponed.

The chief didn't know why the children were taken but said his department received no reports of abuse or negligence.

Campbell, reached at home this evening, declined comment. Do you have a comment? Be sure to post it below.

Past readers have been critical of Heath and Deborah Campbell's name choices for their children
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/index.ssf/2009/01/boy_named_adolf_hitler_his_sis.html

[Athena]

The chief didn't know why the children were taken but said his department received no reports of abuse or negligence.

If that's the case, I would strongly disagree with them being removed from the home. It's one thing if a private business wants to refuse service. It's a beast of an entirely different nature if they're getting fucked with by the state, simply because of the nature of their kids' names. That would be absolutely unacceptable.





But I would also like to take the opportunity to point out the tattoo on the man's neck. Eh? Eh? REALLY classy people. Not saying that, if you've got a tattoo on your neck, you're a bad parent... I'm just saying you're probably a bad parent.

[Jessiesgirl1108]

If that's the case, I would strongly disagree with them being removed from the home. It's one thing if a private business wants to refuse service. It's a beast of an entirely different nature if they're getting fucked with by the state, simply because of the nature of their kids' names. That would be absolutely unacceptable.





But I would also like to take the opportunity to point out the tattoo on the man's neck. Eh? Eh? REALLY classy people. Not saying that, if you've got a tattoo on your neck, you're a bad parent... I'm just saying you're probably a bad parent.

I agree...and am waiting for more news on this...would love to see what they are actually charged with.

[Nell]

http://blog.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county_impact/2009/01/large_adolfhitler.JPG

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/index.ssf/2009/01/boy_named_adolf_hitler_his_sis.html

If this is what the pure white race looks like I am doubly glad I diluted it by making babies with the Mexicans. Yuck!!!

[Dakota Valkyrie]

The chief didn't know why the children were taken but said his department received no reports of abuse or negligence.I'll have to wait for more info. Just because police have no reports doesn't mean CPS has none. Charges may come later.

I hope even those who hate the name raise hell if that is the sole reason they were removed. Somehow I doubt it was (at least I hope so).

If this is what the pure white race looks like I am doubly glad I diluted it by making babies with the Mexicans. Yuck!!!
But Nell, they made a cute little kidlet! Little Adolf is as far in looks as you can get from his namesake. Like my family, beauty seems to skip a generation. My sisters and I can only shake our heads at our bad luck to be born in the wrong part of the skip.

[Sister Iroz]

HOLLAND TOWNSHIP (WABC) -- A story that gained a lot of attention after a family in New Jersey couldn't get a supermarket to make a birthday cake for a little boy named "Adolf Hitler," is back in the news.

Only this time, it's because 3-year-old Adolf and his two younger sisters were removed from their parents' home.

Holland Township police say Adolf and his two younger sisters, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, were taken by state Division of Youth and Family Services.

The three siblings were removed on Tuesday, but police say family services has not told them why. Agency spokeswoman Kate Bernyk says it does not comment on specific cases.

Last December a bakery in Holland Township refused to spell out the name of 3-year-old Hitler on his birthday party. A story in a local newspaper prompted an outpouring of angry online responses directed at his parents, Heath Campbell, 35, and his wife Deborah, 25.
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6603498

[DogMom]

The NJ DYFS is a state agency that employs pinheads and is run by retards. Their administrative failures are known nation wide. They are notorious for failing kids who are truly at risk and destroying kids and their families who are not at risk. Misuse and abuse of power, untrained and overworked case workers, corruption on the executive level. They're expecially good at preying on single parent families.

They are a joke.

Speculation is that the kids were removed from the home because the parents were getting death threats. But that came from the 101.5 "Jersey Guys" during tonite's show. It's a source I'm not likely to believe for a moment.

I would not be surprised at all if the kids were removed because of their names.

Rant over.

[Vilijonkka]

Sad for the kids in any case.

[Jaded]

I wonder if it has to do with the fact that the children were thrust into the news media...and here's daddy with his Nazi tat's and views and memorablia. I read somewhere that there were threats made against the family...could just be trying to keep the little ones safe.

[Rockin Ma]

Are people deep into nazi organizations and the like considered possible terrorists? I'm not asking right.

People can be violated if they are on probation or parole, or face additional punishment if already in jail if it's determined they have gang affiliations.

If these people are active members of some kind of american nazi organization, could that be reason enough to do something like this?

I would like to know why the children were removed. While I think they are so stupid to name their children the way they did and I have no doubt they are raising their children to match their own beliefs, I don't agree if their names is are the reason they were taken.

Maybe by making a big to do over their cake raised concerns when a press person visited or something. Maybe the house wasn't in order?

[CPL CHUD]

I don't think anyone affiliated with some white pride organization should be incarcerated for their beliefs alone; we have the civic duty to allow them to hold whatever belief system they cherish and moral duty to refute the things we don't agree with.

[Rockin Ma]

I agree. I'm not saying that. I'm saying there are groups that are linked to violent crimes which I guess would make them a domestic terrorist group.

I'm not saying they are affiliated. I'm just pondering the possibility that if they are, if that could be a basis for a DCF investigation.

[Pixie]

Well, if they were willing to give their own children names that would tattoo them for life (until they could change them) maybe they were abusive and selfish in other areas also?

[MickeyFine]

Well I dont know who said it first but I agree these ass clowns were looking for a fight and looking for attention - and now they got it!

All at the expence of the poor inocent kids - parents who use thier kids in ANY way dont derserve the precious gift they were given by simply being able to have those kids!

Fucking idiot morons! I sincerely hope these people have no more children in the future.

[malq]

The answer is somewhere between chud and pixies last comments.
Even then it will never be a solution. What do I despise more? Rascist skinheads or governmental control. Its a tossup.

[sherrz]

I don't think CPS is allowed to remove children from a home just due to a name. I was thinking about it and reading on some other message boards about this, either they found drugs, there were other signs of abuse (because yes, agree with me or not but I think naming your child something like Adolf Hitler or Aryan Nation is emotional abuse) or neglect. Unless they're going to be homeschooled when they get older, they're gonna be in for a lonely 13 years.

[SoUncool]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/nyregion/20hitler.html?ref=nyregion

Made the NY Times...interesting details from his landlord...looks like he's getting evicted.


Mr. Campbell’s choices have prompted a debate over whether provocative names alone should be considered child abuse. The authorities removed the children from their parents’ care on Jan. 9., according to the local police. Kate Bernyk, a spokeswoman for the New Jersey Division of Youth and Family Services, said confidentiality rules prevented her from commenting on the case, but that the state would not remove a child based on a name.

So, it is unclear why they were taken from the apartment they rented in a gray two-family ranch on a forlorn stretch of road overlooking the Delaware River, on the Pennsylvania border, and a hearing scheduled for Thursday was canceled.


The Campbells’ neighbors described a family living on the fringe, financially and socially. Mr. Campbell, 35, and his wife, Deborah, 25, do not work and receive disability payments for emphysema and neck pain, respectively. Their landlord, Larry Lippincott, who shares the two-family home, said the family is often up all night.

“I hear the kids playing at 2:30 in the morning and the TV on,” Mr. Lippincott said. “He told me he was a night person and didn’t like to do anything during the day.”

Mr. Lippincott, a truck driver, said Mr. Campbell went through a Confederate flag phase a few years ago, but was now into swastikas, which decorated the apartment and were etched in skull decals on his car.

Mr. Campbell, a collector of German combat knives, also wears Nazi-era boots and, according to Mr. Lippincott, likes to click his heels together. A neighbor, Robert Heckman, said Mr. Campbell had boasted to him about using government money to pay for his cigarettes. Mr. Lippincott said he had decided — before the cake incident — not to renew the Campbells’ lease when it expired in November because, he said, a relative they frequently argue with threatened to “firebomb the house.” He expects to begin eviction proceedings soon.

“They’re not destroying anything, the house is clean and they pay their rent on time,” he said. But, he added, “There comes a point when you say, ‘Enough is enough.’ ”


Web sites have reported incendiary information about Mr. Campbell’s previous marriage, including a few comments from a woman who identified herself as his former mother-in-law and wrote that her daughter had to talk him out of naming one of their children Satan.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

I suspect his disability payments are actually for mental illness.

[Sister Iroz]

HOLLAND TOWNSHIP - The mother of three children who have names associated with Nazis says she and her husband would never abuse them.
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Deborah Campbell tells The Express Times of Easton, Pa., state child welfare officials took the youngsters on Jan. 9 because a neighbor wrongly alleged they had been abused and Campbell's husband, Heath, had abused her.

The Holland Township resident says she's speaking out in violation of family court order to find a lawyer.

The Division of Youth and Family Services has not said why Adolf Hitler, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell were removed.

Deborah Campbell says her husband was hospitalized because of the stress of the dispute. He was released Monday.

A postponed court hearing hasn't been rescheduled because the family is seeking a lawyer.
http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20090121/NEWS01/90121006/1006

[Ceffy]

I don't think these children truly look abused. I know things are different on the inside of the situation but the child in between his mom and dad looks outright happy and well fed; with brushed hair even.

CPS is a joke. They should all burn in hell. Anyone that joins their ranks is a fool. Its way past time for a whole overhaul of this shitty system. I don't think anyone that values one race over the other is a good person, but it doesn't make them a bad parent.

[Tied Angel]

While not a common name name, I actually think Serendipity is beautiful. And, you were nice, and gave her options, for when she's a grown up, and even if she doesn't want to go by Jacquelyn, she could chose to be called Sara, just shortening her name. I always wanted to give my children beautiful uncommon names, but my husband is a tad boring, so we went with Rebecca. I never call her that tho. To me, she is Boogie (she dances.... a lot) I understand thinking out of the box on names. I'm gonna say it, just this once..... My first name is Amanda.... There are WAY to many Amanda's. It sucks, and was confusing in school when I always had at least 3 Amanda's in class with me. But, there is a difference between naming your kids something a little different, a little off the beaten track, and naming your kids after one of the worlds most hated men. I mean, they could have named him Adolf, and it wouldn't have been a big deal, but they had to go the extra mile, and add in the Hitler. And Aryan Nation....wtf man?

I named my niece Rebakah Marie. My mum is Beverly, and my Boy Toy is Forrest Nathaniel. I personaly am Theophenia Morgana La Fey and then my last names. (I have 2 last names.) So don't give me all that naming your child something inappropriate is abuse. I have Dawn Rose Early (full name) for a cousin, and Patience isa Virtue (goddaughter).
Yes they named their children with the intent of their ideals. How is that any diffrent then naming your child David, Job, Issiah, or any other religious name?
What about those who name their kids based on what the name means? Like Lucius (one of my favorite) means Light. or someone who names their child after an actor?
You give your child a name with the idea that they will live up to it.
My name is Greek, it is a family name that is used every 50 or 60 years. I don't know anyone with it. I hate it!!! All of it... My family has a story that we are decended from King Arthur...Its all crap! Trust me.

Your name is nothing more then what you make it. Otherwise everyone would name their kids Angelina and Brad!! (BTW I hate Branglena!) just a little FYI :sheep:

The store should have just done the cake!!

[sanityslipping]

I have to say, I love most of the names you mentioned, and as I said to ms Nell


But, there is a difference between naming your kids something a little different, a little off the beaten track, and naming your kids after one of the worlds most hated men


I am going to respond mainly to your question, here....

Yes they named their children with the intent of their ideals. How is that any diffrent then naming your child David, Job, Issiah, or any other religious name?

The difference, being that the ideals behind the names that these poor kids were stuck with is the belief that everyone who is not blue eyed, and blonde haired should be dead.

And, for the record, I never said it was abuse. My problem with them choosing those names, and raising the kids, is below, but I never said once, that it was actually abuse, even thought I am vocal about it being wrong, but not everything that a parent does wrong is abuse. so if you want to quote me fine, if you want to disagree with me, fine. But, get it right.


For some reason I can't stop thinking about this. I just looked at the pictures, and while the kids are cute, and appear to be taken care of, and even get birthday cakes, I kinda want them to be taken. Is that wrong of me? I mean, these kids are growing up in a house full of swastikas! I just feel like these kids are being brought up in a house full of prejudice and hate, instead of being taught kindness, compassion, tolerance and understanding. Isn't there anything that can be done? I hope little Adolf, and Aryan grow up, and fall in love with a nice jewish man, and then racist bigoted daddy can have a heart attack.
What, do you think, are the chances of these kids overcoming growing up in a situation such as this?

[Countess Olenska]

YouTube - A Boy Named Shithead

[bogustoo]

I don't think these children truly look abused.

Not trying to pick a fight, but how do abused children look?

I was physically abused as a child by my father. Yet I'm still smiling in pictures. You learn early to put up a facade.

[Athena]

I always wanted to give my children beautiful uncommon names, but my husband is a tad boring, so we went with Rebecca.

My boyfriend is also a tad boring, but I am unrelenting. He has the choice between three names for a girl, Eurydice (ur-ID-eh-see), Persephone and Medea (all Greek). The first two would have adorable nicknames (Eury and Persy) and the third just sounds exotic, to me. If he can't settle on one, we don't have kids. A bit draconian, I know - But my name is one of the best things my parents did for me. No kid of mine will be going through life with a name so common that they have to be distinguished by their last initial (which is also up for debate, as "Harper" is trumped by "Zulevic", in my opinion). :P

But back to the topic... I'm surprised nothing new has come out about these folks, yet. I'd really like to know why the kids have been removed.

[sanityslipping]

I love those names! Especially Persephony. When I was younger, I loved Greek mythology, but I seem to have forgotten her story, but the name just conjours up images of beauty in my mind.

[Athena]

I love those names! Especially Persephony. When I was younger, I loved Greek mythology, but I seem to have forgotten her story, but the name just conjours up images of beauty in my mind.

Had you not written this post, I may not have noticed I spelled it wrong. :P

Persephone was the daughter of Zeus and Demeter and was a nature goddess. Lots of gods wooed her, causing her mother to hide her, but then Hades kidnapped her to make her the queen of the underworld. Her dad insisted on her return, but Hades tricked her into eating some pomegranate seeds which forced her to have to return to the underworld for one season each year (winter).

Eurydice was the beautiful wife of Orpheus. Soon after their wedding day, she stepped on a snake which bit her, killing her. Our of grief, Orpheus played a song so somber and beautiful, it caused the gods themselves to cry, so they told Orpheus to go retrieve Eurydice from the underworld. He played another song for Hades and Persephone that was so sweet, they released her to him.

Besides the fact that these names sound cool, I chose them for the fact that, in both stories, their loved ones loved them so much, they went to hell and back, literally, to retrieve them. (Awwww...)

Medea, on the other hand, is just a savage creature. She fell in love with Jason (Golden Fleece) and told him that she would aid him in claiming his throne if he would marry her and take her with him. He agreed, and to aid him, she dismembered her brother so her father would be concerned with that rather than chasing them. She bears him two children and, when they come to rest at their final destination, the local king offers Jason his daughter's hand in marriage. Jason excepts. In revenge, she sends the princess a robe and golden crown that poisons her. The king tries to save his daughter and dies from the poison as well. Distraught, she then kills her children so that no one else may kill them more torturously in revenge.

I don't know why on earth we traded this General Hospital-like mythology for bland ol' Christianity... :P

[chatdenuit]

...but I think the store did the right thing by refusing to put an offensive message on a cake. For all the store people knew, there was no little boy named Adolf Hitler. The parents could have just said that in order to get a cake, maybe for the intent of celebrating the birth of a crazy, evil madman. After all, who in their right mind names a beautiful baby after a monster?

Frankly, I think it's atrocious that the Wal-Mart agreed to do it! I mean, I hate Wal-Mart. I have for years, but mostly for the economic reasons. The ideology stuff has always bothered me, too. It seems to me that this was the one occasion when I would have sided with Wal-Mart if it had wanted to stand on its uber-Christian high horse and refuse service.

As for whether it's abuse or not to name your children as these parents have, nah. It just makes them really stupid, and it's gonna make for a long, miserable life for the kids.

Oh well.
:sheep:

[zapp]

name the kitty..........

http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/files/186/kittah/kitler.jpg

[chatdenuit]

...I'll confess it. My friend forbade me from naming my baby Edward Michael (if it had turned out to be a boy, but she turned out to be a Margaret) because his initials would have been EMS. For crying out sake, if I would feel guilty for giving a child the initials of an ambulance company, how do these parents sleep at night?

PS - Cute cat. Looks evil though. :tongue2:

[zapp]

PS - Cute cat. Looks evil though. :tongue2:

It could have been worse..

http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/files/186/penis_cat.jpg

[chatdenuit]

What did you name your cat?

[zapp]

Himmler... what else?


I did have a SharPei named "Meathead" and no matter what I tried to change it to, she would'nt respond.

Himmler and Meathead got along beautifully!

[hanalis]

A New Jersey couple who gave their children Nazi-linked names says that their kids were taken away because of false claims of abuse. New Jersey's Division of Youth and Family Services removed little Adolf Hitler, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell from their home on January 9.

The children, ranging in age from 3 to under 1, were removed from their home after a neighbor claimes they were being physical, menatlly, and emotionally abused. These claims are denied by parents Heath and Deborah Campbell.

The Campbell family broke a judge's gag order to speak with MyFoxNY and Fox 5 in New York.

"The never even put his hands on his children," says Deborah Campbell of her husband, Heath.

They drew attention in December when a supermarket bakery refused to put the name of the oldest - Adolf Hitler Campbell - on a birthday cake.

The parents say they are not racists and just are exercising their rights to name thier children what they want.

The state Division of Youth and Family Services would not say why the children were removed citing confidentiality laws. The Campbells says it is becuase of the names.

www.myfoxspringfield.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8310361&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.3.1

[hanalis]

Little Adolf Hitler Campbell’s parents are already in the midst of a custody battle. And now they may have even more trouble on their hands, because grandma was sauced in the backseat of their car, according to Adolf’s mother.

Deborah Campbell, Adolf's mom, claims the couple was mistreated by Raritan Township police during a traffic stop.

With husband Heath at the wheel and her mother in the backseat, Deborah was headed to family court Jan. 13, when they were pulled over by police at around 10 a.m.

Deborah claimed police referred to him as “the Nazi guy” and quizzed him about his tattoos, one of which is a swastika, according to the Express-Times. She says they also made Heath take a sobriety test after allegedly smelling alcohol in the car.

But, it was grandma drunk in the backseat, not Heath, Deborah said. She was headed to court with the couple in hopes the three children would be released to her if the parents could not gain custody.

Lt. Kevin Donovan of the Raritan Township Police Department confirmed with Jim Deegan of the Express-Times, that the Campbell’s were pulled over and ticketed for not making necessary repairs to the car deemed by a prior state inspection.

Lt. Donovan did not comment on the alleged mistreatment of the couple, and said there was no record of a sobriety test performed.

A formal complaint with the police department has not been filed. But, a complaint form was requested by Heath and has been mailed to his home, Lt. Donovan said.

Officials from the N.J. Division of Youth and Family Services took the children -- Adolf Hitler Campbell, 3, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell, 1, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, who will turn 1 in April – from the Campbell’s home in Milford last Tuesday, saying only that they felt the children were in danger.

Deborah said officials have yet to tell her and her husband exactly why the children were removed. But Campbell suspects it has something to do with the names they bestowed upon their kids.

"The names, I believe are the problems. But they just don’t want to come out and say that,” Campbell said.

The couple has defended the names of their children saying they reserve the right to name the kids whatever they like.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28769906/

Who shows up in court and asks the judge to give the kids to somebody who's drunk? That right there should be grounds to not return the kids to the parents. And Grandma couldn't have waited until after court before she started drinking? They were pulled over at 10:00 a.m. She couldn't wait until after lunch to get sauced?

[Sister Iroz]

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo35/Special2bme/large_hc.jpgHeath Campbell, left, with his wife Deborah and son Adolph Hitler, 3, pose in Easton, Pa., last week. Deborah and her husband Heath attempted to by a birthday cake for their son at a near by ShopRite supermarket in Greenwich, N.J. and were told that the store would not inscribe Happy Birthday Adolf Hitler on the cake.

The father of three children who have names associated with Nazis is accusing the state of neglecting the children since removing them from their home three weeks ago.

In a telephone interview with The Associated Press today, Heath Campbell said he and his wife Deborah have been allowed to see their children once since state child welfare workers removed them from the family's home on Jan. 9.

Campbell said the children looked ill when he saw them.

The Division of Youth and Family Services has not said why Adolf Hitler Campbell, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell were removed.

Their father said the state took its action based on allegations of violence made by an ex-wife who he hasn't seen in years. He also said the state is relying on accusations from a neighbor that haven't been proven.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/01/father_of_children_with_naziin.html

[Shizz]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gxnBSZtjbgocm6f98Bsgnsk3G-GQD96SPL4O1

March 12
FLEMINGTON, N.J. (AP) — A court hearing to determine custody for three children with Nazi-inspired names failed to yield a decision Thursday, leaving the matter still unresolved.

The parents of 3-year-old Adolf Hitler Campbell and two younger sisters had hoped to regain custody of the children, who were removed from their home in Holland Township in western New Jersey in January and placed in foster care.

Heath and Deborah Campbell left state Superior Court in Hunterdon County on Thursday without speaking to reporters, but attorney Pasquale Giannetta said he was hopeful the children would be returned to their parents.

"I'm pretty confident," he said. "We took a step forward today. As long as it goes in the right direction, they'll have the children back."

Due to privacy rules governing family court matters, Giannetta said he was not allowed to discuss what occurred in the hearing before state Superior Court Judge Peter Buchsbaum.

But he said Buchsbaum increased the Campbells' visitation from one day per week to three. The visits last about 90 minutes, according to Giannetta.

It was not immediately clear when Buchsbaum would hear the case again.

Representatives of the Division of Youth and Family Services, who are forbidden by agency policy to discuss individual cases publicly, also did not comment outside the courthouse.

Heath Campbell has said he named his son after Adolf Hitler because he liked the name and because "no one else in the world would have that name."

The family made headlines in December when a supermarket refused to decorate a birthday cake with their son's name.

DYFS removed Adolf and younger sisters JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell from the home in January.

DYFS officials have not said why the children were removed. Heath Campbell believes the removal was prompted by the publicity surrounding their names.

"They said it's not about the newspaper articles, but they took them because of their name — I don't care what anybody says," Campbell told The Associated Press in January.

Campbell also told the AP that the state was relying on unproven accusations made by a neighbor and by an ex-wife who charged him with abusing her years ago.

short video:
http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger/2009/03/parents_of_adolf_hitler_campbe.html

[Castille]

It hurts me to think about 3 young children seperated for their parents for so long, even if their parents are morons. It sounds as though their naming choices did have a lot to do with the removal.

[bogustoo]

It hurts me to think about 3 young children seperated for their parents for so long, even if their parents are morons. It sounds as though their naming choices did have a lot to do with the removal.

If the naming of the children had anything at all to do with their removal, the judge would have given those children back on the spot. Clearly, there is more going on behind the scenes than just an offensive name.

[Rockin Ma]

Heath Campbell has said he named his son after Adolf Hitler because he liked the name and because "no one else in the world would have that name."

I recently found out my cousin, (cousin because he married my cousin) is named Adolf. All these years I thought his name was something else, which is really just a nickname indicating where he's from.

I'm dying to find out why that is his name, but I don't want to offend by asking. Obviously he didn't approve himself if he went by something else.

[cubby]

would he name him sakadooky buketopiss if no one else in the whole world would have that name either?

F'king idiot!!

[eracsurfer]

I wish I had cool parents like these!

On the day I was born, my first thought was that I wanted to be named Hermann Göring, but for some reason my parents wouldn't listen to me.

Then when I was two years old and more knowledgeable, I thought Benito Mussolini would be pretty cool. Again, my damn parents wouldn't listen to me.

All this time, I have been stuck with the name John Doe, which make picking up women a real pain in the ass (unless its a hooker).

I don't know, should I quit snorting Vivarin tablets?

[battery jackson]

while the kids are not with their parents, they should have their names changed, and then get returned afterwards. any further name change orders filed by the parents on behalf of the kids could then be denied if they try to change em back. yes this is fascist, but it is a wise and sound thing to do. in the absence of wise and sound decisions, they will be made for you.:hello:

[The Diabolical Mr. Lieman]

Dad's not white anyway, at least not all the way.

He's got dark brown eyes, a milky olive complexion, and I would say he's got a lot of indian running through his veins. Back when I was in the movement, if this sucker tried to chill with us, he'd have left with a bloody face. That, and he's just a fucking idiot.

[this is going badly]

The ignorant asshat bio units wanted their kids to be "proud" of their white race so they name the kid Adolf... BTW, Adolf actually was a very popular name in Germany before Hitler. Now, not so much...

[ImmortalOne]

As of August this past year, only 1 neighbor made a complaint of child abuse, and the children still had not been returned to their families.... There is nothing in the news I have been able to find that these children were ever returned or the parents were ever convicted of anything. The removal does seem to be a bunch of BS in my opinion.

As a Rromany, I find the reference and the White Nazi Movement disgusting. I feel that they really need to reign in some of the situations and activities are done on their behalves (such as Nazi rally's that can't be touched if they are peaceful).

However over a name, which is what is seeming this stemmed from, it is a little stupid. This is my personal opinion after dealing with bullshit over naming my children (Katherine December-Lee, Khryscynda Angelique, Nadezdha Lilith, and the new baby to be named Aaleahya Pandora) ---- While my names are not references to a monster that tried to take over the world and committed genocide the first time someone had an issue to the point of denying me anything in regard to my kids because of their names I would have a huge issue.

I am sure that CPS had more important situations to deal with and that have gone unchecked because of this case alone.

[eracsurfer]

From the article: Adolf's Drunk Granny Wanted Custody of the Kids above...

"But, it was grandma drunk in the backseat, not Heath, Deborah said. She was headed to court with the couple in hopes the three children would be released to her if the parents could not gain custody."

Does this not explain a WHOLE lot?

Judge: "Sorry you as parents are unfit to have custody of the children."

Family: "What about granny here?"

Judge: "You mean the one with the bottle of Ripple? Sure! As long as she drives!"

Asshats!

[AmyB80]

I wouldn't use the name Eris in my daughter's name even though I love it. It means Goddess of dischord. Didn't think she needed to try to live up to it. It will be other kids growing up that give Adolph the grief over his name. Some will think he's cool for it and others will bully because of it.

[carolinablue]

and i got untold amounts of grief when i wanted to name our daughters Summer Skye and Holly Noel. i'm showing this story to mr cb! that said, both parties are jerks. the parents for gifting the child with a name which is synonymous with hate and genocide; way to go, make your kid a target for ridicule and worse. the store employees acted as political correctness police, and people like that scare me. poor kid. parents who use their kids to make political statements should be slapped.

[Tits McGee]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20012889-504083.html


[...] A state appeals court has ruled that the New Jersey parents who gave their three kids Nazi-themed names should not regain custody of them, citing the parents' disabilities and the risk of serious injury to their children.


[...]A family court had earlier determined that there was insufficient evidence that the parents had abused or neglected the children. That decision was stayed until the appeals court could review it. On Thursday, the three-judge appeals panel determined there was enough evidence and that the children should not be returned.

[...]
The children's names and the birthday cake were not mentioned in Thursday's ruling. The court found that there were myriad other reasons that proved the need for continued protection services for the children.

According to court records, both parents are unemployed and both suffer from unspecified physical and psychological disabilities.

The court found that both parents were themselves victims of childhood abuse and said neither "have received adequate treatment for their serious psychological conditions."

Heath Campbell, 37, cannot read and Deborah Campbell dropped out of high school before finishing the 10th grade, according to court records.

In its ruling, the panel found the parents "recklessly created a risk of serious injury to their children by failing to protect the children from harm and failing to acknowledge and treat their disabilities."

The judges considered a typo-riddled note signed by Deborah Campbell and given to a neighbor. In it, Campbell says that if she were found dead, her husband was to blame.

"Hes thrend to have me killed or kill me himself hes alread tried it a few times. Im afread that he might hurt my children if they are keeped in his care. He teaches my son how to kill someone at the age of 3," the letter read in part.

Deborah Campbell later acknowledged writing the letter but claimed it was all a lie.

"She described her husband as 'a perfect guy"' according to court records.

I'm curious as to what the "unspecified" disabilities are.

[nopatience]

I'm curious as to what the "unspecified" disabilities are.

Damn. This story gets worse and worse. Here is a perfect case for sterilization. My personal opinion is they had these kids and use them more for the shock effect rather than be the true parents they should be. Why the fuck would you set your kids up to be picked on or targeted???

[Aena]

Sorry but no way should kids be taken away because society has a problem with their name. Idiotic to name your kids like that but unless they are being abused, idiocy in the US up until now is not against the law, we see it daily.

[cubby]

Yeah but these folks have got more than idiocy going on. I think they are truly messed up in the head.

Especially daddy.

[bogustoo]

Sorry but no way should kids be taken away because society has a problem with their name. Idiotic to name your kids like that but unless they are being abused, idiocy in the US up until now is not against the law, we see it daily.

The kids' names had NOTHING to do with these loser parents losing custody of their kids.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20012889-504083.html


TRENTON, N.J. (CBS/AP) Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell. Adolf Hitler Campbell. JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell. The names don't exactly roll off the tongue, do they?

A state appeals court has ruled that the New Jersey parents who gave their three kids Nazi-themed names should not regain custody of them, citing the parents' disabilities and the risk of serious injury to their children.

The children had been removed from Heath and Deborah Campbell's home in January 2009 by the state.A month earlier, the family drew attention when a Shop Rite supermarket refused to decorate a birthday cake for young Adolph Hitler Campbell. A Wal-Mart in Pennsylvania wound up decorating the cake, but the resulting publicity put the family under media scrutiny. Heath Campbell said neighbors and others were harassing them, and local police reported a mailed death threat.

The three children have been in foster care.


A family court had earlier determined that there was insufficient evidence that the parents had abused or neglected the children. That decision was stayed until the appeals court could review it. On Thursday, the three-judge appeals panel determined there was enough evidence and that the children should not be returned.


The panel sent the case back to family court for further monitoring.



Heath Campbell told The Associated Press last year that he believed the children were taken because officials felt they were in "imminent danger." He accused the state of removing the children because of their names and said government officials were relying on unproven accusations made by a neighbor and by an ex-wife who charged him with abusing her years ago.


The children's names and the birthday cake were not mentioned in Thursday's ruling. The court found that there were myriad other reasons that proved the need for continued protection services for the children.

According to court records, both parents are unemployed and both suffer from unspecified physical and psychological disabilities.


The court found that both parents were themselves victims of childhood abuse and said neither "have received adequate treatment for their serious psychological conditions."


Heath Campbell, 37, cannot read and Deborah Campbell dropped out of high school before finishing the 10th grade, according to court records.


In its ruling, the panel found the parents "recklessly created a risk of serious injury to their children by failing to protect the children from harm and failing to acknowledge and treat their disabilities."


The judges considered a typo-riddled note signed by Deborah Campbell and given to a neighbor. In it, Campbell says that if she were found dead, her husband was to blame.


"Hes thrend to have me killed or kill me himself hes alread tried it a few times. Im afread that he might hurt my children if they are keeped in his care. He teaches my son how to kill someone at the age of 3," the letter read in part.

Deborah Campbell later acknowledged writing the letter but claimed it was all a lie.


"She described her husband as 'a perfect guy"' according to court records.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/parents-cannot-regain-custody-children-nazi-inspired/story?id=11334970


The New Jersey parents who gave their children Nazi-inspired names including Adolf Hitler lost custody after a state appeals court ruled that a history of domestic violence puts the children at risk of abuse and neglect.

Officials say the removal had nothing to do with the kids' names.Court documents show that the oldest child frequently threatens to kill people and the mother once slipped a note to a neighbor saying she was terrified of her husband because he said he would kill her.
Adolf Hitler Campbell, 4, and his two younger sisters, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell, 3, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, 2, will remain in the care of the Division of Youth and Family Services (DYFS).

Their parents, Heath Campbell, 37, and Deborah Campbell, 27, both unemployed and disabled, were abused as children and "neither has received adequate treament for their serious psychological conditions," the three-judge panel of the Superior Court of New Jersey Appellate Division.

The family made headlines back in 2009 when a ShopRite supermarket in Greenwich, N.J., refused to inscribe Adolf Hitler Campbell's name on a cake for his third birthday. At the time, police and child protection officials took the children into protective custody, declining to reveal the exact reason but indicating it was not because of the children's names.

http://www.syracuse.com/have-you-heard/index.ssf/2010/08/new_jersey_court_nazi-naming_p.html


TRENTON, N.J. — A New Jersey couple who gave their children Nazi-inspired names should not regain custody of them, a state appeals court ruled Thursday, citing the parents’ own disabilities and the risk of serious injury to their children.
The state removed Heath and Deborah Campbell’s three small children from their home in January 2009.

A month earlier, the family drew attention when a supermarket refused to decorate a birthday cake for their son, Adolf Hitler Campbell. He and siblings JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell have been in foster care.

A family court had earlier determined that there was insufficient evidence that the parents had abused or neglected the children. That decision was stayed until the appeals court could review it. On Thursday, the three-judge appeals panel determined there was enough evidence and that the children should not be returned.

The panel sent the case back to family court for further monitoring. A gag order remains in place and the parties refused to discuss the decision.

Heath Campbell told The Associated Press last year that he believed the children were taken because officials felt they were in “imminent danger.” He accused the state of removing the children because of their names and said government officials were relying on unproven accusations made by a neighbor and by an ex-wife who charged him with abusing her years ago.

The children’s names and the birthday cake were not mentioned in Thursday’s ruling. The court found that there were myriad other reasons that proved the need for continued protection services for the children. According to court records, both parents are unemployed and both suffer from unspecified physical and psychological disabilities.

The court found that both parents were themselves victims of childhood abuse and said neither “have received adequate treatment for their serious psychological conditions.” Heath Campbell, 37, cannot read and Deborah Campbell dropped out of high school before finishing the 10th grade, according to court records.

In its ruling, the panel found the parents “recklessly created a risk of serious injury to their children by failing to protect the children from harm and failing to acknowledge and treat their disabilities.”
The judges considered a typo-riddled note signed by Deborah Campbell and given to a neighbor. In it, Campbell says that if she were found dead, her husband was to blame. “Hes thrend to have me killed or kill me himself hes alread tried it a few times. Im afread that he might hurt my children if they are keeped in his care. He teaches my son how to kill someone at the age of 3,” the letter read in part.

Deborah Campbell later acknowledged writing the letter but claimed it was all a lie. “She described her husband as ’a perfect guy,’” according to court records.

The family made headlines when a ShopRite supermarket in Greenwich, near the family’s Holland Township home in west-central New Jersey, refused to decorate a birthday cake with their son’s name.

A Wal-Mart in Pennsylvania wound up decorating the cake, but the resulting publicity put the family under media scrutiny. Heath Campbell said neighbors and others were harassing them, and local police reported a mailed death threat.

Heath himself said that the State believed the kids were in imminent danger. Neighbors don't make accusations of child abuse for no reason. There are a million reasons these kids were removed from their parents' care, and their names had nothing to do with it.

[Rockin Ma]

I guess making a big deal about the store refusing to put the name on the cake just drew attention to themselves exposing the total dysfunction in that house.

[bogustoo]

Rockin Ma, that's exactly what happened.

[Tundratot]

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[biteme]

Named two of their children Adolf Hitler and JoyceLynn Aryan Nation,
Really? And somehow proved they don't hate their children

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/weird/Hitler-Parents-Claim-Judge-Found-No-Abuse-of-Adolf-Aryan-Nation.html

Heath and Deborah Campbell, who named two of their children Adolf Hitler and JoyceLynn Aryan Nation, are claiming that a court vindicated them of all abuse allegations last month. But after 33 months in foster care, the children are still not home.

New Jersey Family Court officials had no comment Tuesday.

“Actually, the judge and DYFS told us that there was no evidence of abuse and that it was the names! They were taken over the children's names,” Heath Campbell told NBC 10 Tuesday.

Court records last year stated that the children were not removed from the home because of their names, but because of tangible evidence of abuse or neglect.

Protesting the fact that they still don't have their kids, the Campbells picketed with three other people outside of child services offices in Flemington, N.J. Tuesday. The couple spoke exclusively to NBC 10, saying that the state has no right to keep their children away from them now that the court allegedly ruled that the kids were taken away without cause.

[Proud wife]

All I can say is WTF?!

[Robynne]

I think that naming those kids the names they did, is a pretty good indication that they are going to raise those children to be hateful and vindictive. Not to mention what those children will go through in school when the other children (who don't know anything about the names) learn about Hiltler and Racism.
Those poor children, their lives were ruined when they were named.

[AngelFire]

As much as a dislike racism and the assholes that spew it, I have to side with the parents. That is if it's true that what triggered the investigation were the names. I am not saying they are model citizens, but to accuse them of abuse solely for the fucked up names is criminal.

Yeah there is a great possibility that the parents may raise them to hate others. But I know people that have raised their kids to be shit heads and they aren't from any Aryan Nation....When I see a skinhead, I already know what he thinks of me, it's the ones that don't tell you to your face that I have an issue with.

[biteme]

As much as a dislike racism and the assholes that spew it, I have to side with the parents. That is if it's true that what triggered the investigation were the names. I am not saying they are model citizens, but to accuse them of abuse solely for the fucked up names is criminal.

Yeah there is a great possibility that the parents may raise them to hate others. But I know people that have raised their kids to be shit heads and they aren't from any Aryan Nation....When I see a skinhead, I already know what he thinks of me, it's the ones that don't tell you to your face that I have an issue with.
Agree Mybabiesmomma, but many of us do what we can to make life better for our children, these two used their children to promote their beliefs in-spite of the future derogatory impact to their children, so I'll just hate them for that
You are right CPS had no right to take the children, but than when has CPS ever gotten it right anyhow.

[AngelFire]

Agree Mybabiesmomma , but many of us do what we can to make life better for our children, these two used their children to promote their beliefs in-spite of the future derogatory impact to their children, so I'll just hate them for that
You are right CPS had no right to take the children, but than when has CPS ever gotten it right anyhow.

Oh I hear ya, and I don't like them either. But it is THEIR beliefs whether we agree with them or not. If we allow the government to take kids away from parents because they don't agree with their way of thinking, then who will be next? Me, you? Are you prepared for that, because I am not.

Again, I don't agree with their message of hate at all.

[Tundratot]

Raising them to be hateful and vindictive is not abuse or neglect, though, is it? It's horrid and wrong, but it's a lifestyle choice. One we can only hope the kids choose to reject.

[Marv]

Well, I think it IS child abuse - by proxy. By giving their children those ridiculous names, they are setting them up for a lifetime of abuse from others. And as the kids grow up being verbally and (probably) physically abused, the hatred these idiot parents are sure to instill in them will grow and fester, and they will probably end up living up to their names. Idiots like these two should not be allowed to breed, (which would tie in quite nicely with the ideals of the names they chose to inflict on their children, so that should keep them happy!)

[Robynne]

Just so everyone knows, I do not agree with CPS taking the kids away for no reason other than the parents gave them these names. I was just stating my opinion that these kids are going to live a life of hell because of those names.

If there was no abuse, there is no reason for CPS to take the children.

[Obsolete]

Well, I think it IS child abuse - by proxy. By giving their children those ridiculous names, they are setting them up for a lifetime of abuse from others. And as the kids grow up being verbally and (probably) physically abused, the hatred these idiot parents are sure to instill in them will grow and fester, and they will probably end up living up to their names. Idiots like these two should not be allowed to breed, (which would tie in quite nicely with the ideals of the names they chose to inflict on their children, so that should keep them happy!)

Kids make fun of all kinds of names, even innocent ones like Richard (dick) or Harry. I went to school with 2 boys who were bullied because of their names, one was George (first name) George (last name) and the other was Orlo. If we accused every parent that gave their child an untraditional name because it might be made fun of, we would live in a world full of people named John and Jane.

The parents were obviously trying to make a point when they named their kids. They gave their children names that reflect their beliefs, how is that any different than a christian naming their child Noah or Moses? Or a black person naming their child Martin Luther? Would anyone be complaining if they had named their children after Leopold II of Belgium
You don't have to agree with their beliefs, but they still have the right to name their children after whoever they want.

[Obsolete]

If there was no abuse, there is no reason for CPS to take the children.

CPS doesn't need a legit excuse to take a child, it happens all the time.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Well, I think it IS child abuse - by proxy. By giving their children those ridiculous names, they are setting them up for a lifetime of abuse from others.
"from others" being the operative words. Isn't that bullying and a whole different problem for OTHER parents?

And to expect it to last a lifetime assumes others are going to continue the bullying into adulthood. The vast majority of people have outgrown picking on people because of their name by the time they hit adulthood. If I met someone named "Adolf Hitler" (or any other ridiculous name - of which there are many), I wouldn't make a peep about it. I don't know one adult that would abuse another adult because of their name. Not that there aren't any, but there usually pretty easy to avoid. And if it is a problem after 18, someone can always change their name themselves.

[Marv]

Oh yeah, it's their right to give their child any name they see fit. But some names are more likely to lead to a life of misery from bullying than others. Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation are two of them. Some parents just don't seem to give a damn about the impact a name will have on a child:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1365249/Preston-football-team-baby-named-FOURTEEN-players.html


When two football mad parents had to decide what to call their newborn son, they couldn't decide which one of their side's players to name him after.

So instead Burnley supporters Amanda and Stephen Preston registered him after the entire first team.

Jensen Jay Alexander Bikey Carlisle Duff Elliot Fox Iwelumo Marney Mears Paterson Thompson Wallace Preston was taken to his first game after just eight days.

Now, that's just plain stupid.



And I also don't think the children should be removed into care just because the asshole parents gave them a ridiculous moniker. But it is a stupid, careless, asinine decision which will have a negative impact on their kids lives. I just pity these poor kids. I don't think it is so much the other children who will judge them (at least until they get older and learn some history), but more the parents of those other children. I can see it now - ''You want to invite WHO to your party??!''

[Marv]

"from others" being the operative words. Isn't that bullying and a whole different problem for OTHER parents?

And to expect it to last a lifetime assumes others are going to continue the bullying into adulthood. The vast majority of people have outgrown picking on people because of their name by the time they hit adulthood. If I met someone named "Adolf Hitler" (or any other ridiculous name - of which there are many), I wouldn't make a peep about it. I don't know one adult that would abuse another adult because of their name. Not that there aren't any, but there usually pretty easy to avoid. And if it is a problem after 18, someone can always change their name themselves.


You're right of course, they can change their names when they are old enough. But the bullying might well have done the damage by then. Sometimes I think people underestimate the effects of bullying.

And sadly there are adults out there who would pick on someone because of their name. I find kids to be more accepting of things than adults actually, and they learn their prejudices from their parents. I have read so many things about how adults make nasty remarks about, say, a child with a birthmark or something, while kids have just accepted it. And I do think these kids will be ostracised because of their names. I think parents will want their children to avoid them incase they are 'judged' by association.

I just really think these parents are idiots.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

You're right of course, they can change their names when they are old enough. But the bullying might well have done the damage by then. Sometimes I think people underestimate the effects of bullying.

And sadly there are adults out there who would pick on someone because of their name. I find kids to be more accepting of things than adults actually, and they learn their prejudices from their parents. I have read so many things about how adults make nasty remarks about, say, a child with a birthmark or something, while kids have just accepted it. And I do think these kids will be ostracised because of their names. I think parents will want their children to avoid them incase they are 'judged' by association.

I just really think these parents are idiots.
I agree the parents are idiots. I just think the OTHER kids/people doing the bullying are far more the problem. If a birthmark or a name can send someone into bully mode, they have a problem that is far more dangerous to society than someone naming their kids after a tyrant.

[Marv]

If a birthmark or a name can send someone into bully mode, they have a problem that is far more dangerous to society than someone naming their kids after a tyrant.

Absolutely 100% agree. I detest bullies and bullying in all it's forms. But bullies do exist, and these parents have handed them a couple of new victims. If they liked the damn names so much they should have deed-polled themselves.

[JGo555]

The establishment reserves the right to serve to whomever they want.

With that said, they can also tell a person with extreme bad odor or someone high as a kite, that they will NOT sell the products to them & to get the fuck out.

These parents thought they were cool, hip & trendy (inside their bubble world) by naming their kids these names. These kids will more than likely CHANGE their names because they either live up to said names or end up killing themselves by being named ignorant/fearful beliefs & horrible people.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

These kids will more than likely CHANGE their names because they either live up to said names or end up killing themselves by being named ignorant/fearful beliefs & horrible people.
Or worse yet, they will grow up adoring the namesake as much as their parents do.

[Tundratot]

Oh, I agree, Robynne. It is a form of abuse, but it's not one that will ever qualify as a reason to remove a child. This is an extreme example, among the many weird names we've seen. I would be interested to see what CPS would or could do if the children were named something truly pejorative like Shitbug, Penisbreath, Cunt, Cocksucker. Those names would have to bring about some landmark court cases. But I think that names, no matter how infamous, are going to be very hard to ban. (Rasputin, Attila, Beelzebub . . . )

[Obsolete]

But it is a stupid, careless, asinine decision which will have a negative impact on their kids lives. I just pity these poor kids. I don't think it is so much the other children who will judge them (at least until they get older and learn some history), but more the parents of those other children. I can see it now - ''You want to invite WHO to your party??!''

I was told almost that exact same thing by a family member when they found out I was Athiest...and they weren't far off. My children have been criticized at school by other classmates, been called names, and have had the parents of their friends tell them they can't play with their children anymore because they don't go to church. None of that really effected them because I raised them to be strong and confident in themselves, they would rather be friends with people who accept them for who they are rather than the judgemental, finger pointing, bible thumping assholes that profess to be christ like.

[Marv]

But I think that names, no matter how infamous, are going to be very hard to ban. (Rasputin, Attila, Beelzebub . . . )

Not if you live in New Zealand:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017670/New-Zealand-bans-Lucifer-Adolf-Hitler-baby-names.html


By anyone’s standards, Lucifer is a pretty hellish name to call your offspring – and authorities in New Zealand have effectively banned parents from using it, along with that of Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler.

The country's Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages has also turned down Baron, Bishop, Duke, General, Judge, King, Knight and Mr, apparently because they sound too much like titles.

The crackdown on naming freedom could well stem from global headlines in 2008 that revealed that two Kiwi boys bore the names Violence and Number 16 Bus Shelter.

Calling your bundle of joy a punctuation mark, like . (full-stop) or * (asterisk) or simply a letter is also a no-no.

Several parents tried to register C, D, I and T, but weren’t allowed. According to reports, q and J were given the green light after the mothers and fathers appealed.
[...]

‘It makes a fool of the child and sets her up with a social disability and handicap,’ Family Court Judge Rob Murfitt said in 2008 after granting nine-year-old Talula Does the Hula From Hawaii permission to assume a more straightforward title.

There are some odd names here in Britain, too.

Website thebabywebsite.com recently revealed that Barb Dwyer, Ray Gunn, Mary Christmas, Max Power, Justin Case and Chris Cross had all been registered.

Sweden also has a proud history of giving babies strange titles. The requests don’t always succeed, though.
‘Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116’ didn’t get through, but Google and Lego did.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Not if you live in New Zealand:

Wouldn't their time and effort be more productively spent on changing peoples attitudes/behavior than enforcing silly name rules? They probably wouldn't allow my name because the diminutive of it rhymes with derogatory adjectives (and I've been called them all). What if they decide they just don't like the queen I'm named after?

[Marv]

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/world/233591-parents-banned-from-calling-child-talula-does-the-hula-from-hawaii




A New Zealand judge has chastised two parents for calling their 9-year-old girl Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii.

Family Court Judge Rob Murfitt cited a list of unfortunate names that he said were embarrassing or made children seem foolish among their peers.

Some names, including Fish and Chips, Yeah Detroit, Stallion, Twisty Poi, Keenan Got Lucy and Sex Fruit, were blocked by registration officials, he said.

But others were allowed, including Number 16 Bus Shelter, Benson and Hedges (twins), Midnight Chardonnay, Hitler, Cinderella Beauty Blossom "and tragically, Violence," the judge said.
[...]

She told people her name was "K" because she feared being "mocked and teased," the girl's lawyer, Colleen MacLeod, told the court.

"The court is profoundly concerned about the very poor judgment which this child's parents have shown in choosing this name," Murfitt wrote. "It makes a fool of the child and sets her up with a social disability and handicap, unnecessarily."

Murfitt ordered that the court take custody of her until the name could be formally changed, which has since occurred and the custody dispute settled, Family Court Manager Midge Shaw said Thursday.

The new name was not made public to protect the girl's privacy.

Brian Clarke, the registrar general of Births, Deaths and Marriages, said New Zealand law does not allow names that would cause offense to a reasonable person, that are 100 characters or more long, that include titles or military rank or that include punctuation marks or numerals.
[...]


"Often when we explain the situation to parents we can agree on an acceptable name to register," he said.



I can only find cases from NZ where names have been banned, so I don't think other countries actually go that far.

[Marv]

What if they decide they just don't like the queen I'm named after?


There's a Queen Dakota?

[Dakota Valkyrie]

There's a Queen Dakota?
ROFLMAO!!!! I was thinking more of the name my dad gave me - which is not the one my mom gave me. Boy, was she surprised when she saw what dad put on my birth certificate! But she rolled with it and it stuck.

[Rockin Ma]

“They’re not destroying anything, the house is clean and they pay their rent on time,” he said. But, he added, “There comes a point when you say, ‘Enough is enough.’ ” From post #68

I've tried to find updates on this one periodically. I know CPS sucks, but I find it hard to believe they could take the kids this long without a better reason than their names.

[badfish76]

Mommy? Can Adolph Hitler come over and play??? LMAO!

[AngelFire]

Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii.

:aetsch:

[Pete Bondurant]

It is unlawful to mock Der Führer.

[Marv]

The only thing I can find is this:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053799/Parents-Adolf-Hitler-Aryan-Nation-guilty-child-abuse--dont-kids-back.html


In 2010 a New Jersey appeals court ruled that there was sufficient evidence of abuse or neglect in the home because of prior domestic violence -- the Campbells have denied despite a gag order -- causing the children's removal into foster care.

The authorities had said it had nothing to do with their names.

'Actually, the judge and DYFS told us that there was no evidence of abuse and that it was the names!' Mr Campbell said on Tuesday following the hearing. 'They were taken over the children's names,' he insists.

But court records last year stated that both of the children's parents had been victims themselves of childhood abuse and while unemployed, were suffering from unspecified physical and psychological disabilities.

Court records also show that the oldest child, Adolf, frequently threatened to kill people.

The mother reportedly had also once given a note to her neighbour saying she was terrified of her husband who had threatened to kill her.



Still doesn't sound like much to justify removing the children, especially when you read other cases detailing signs of visible abuse which CPS miss and the child ends up dead.

[Rockin Ma]

Earlier in the thread there was a report that an ex girlfriend had to put the nix on naming their kid satan.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

A New Jersey appeals court says a couple who named one of their children after Adolf Hitler should not regain custody of their three children.

Heath and Deborah Campbell's three small children were removed from their home in Philipsburg by the state in January 2009.
[...]

The appeals court ruled Thursday that sufficient evidence of abuse or neglect existed because of domestic violence in the home.

The court sent the case back to family court for further reconsideration.

A gag order remains in place and the parties refused to discuss the decision.
[...]
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/adolf-hitler-parents-lose-custody-of-kids-080510


Fearing for her life, Deborah Campbell wrote a chilling letter to authorities, telling them to investigate her husband if she turned up dead.

"If anything may happened to me please do an altops on me b/c My husband has done something to me," the letter read. "Im afread that he might hurt my children if they are keeped in his care."

Investigators later found more ominous signs in the family’s Holland Township home in Hunterdon County: the bedroom windows were nailed shut and her husband kept the only working cell phone.

Details about the Campbell’s homelife emerged today in an appellate court decision that offered a troubling portrait of a household that gained notoriety after the husband and wife gave their three children Nazi-inspired names.

In a 49-page ruling, the judges overruled a lower court and said state workers were within their rights to remove the children — two girls and a boy — from home, citing Heath Campbell’s history of domestic violence in a previous marriage and the fact his current wife was in denial about his past.

"We hold that evidence from the ex-wife was admissible to prove that defendant-father was a risk of harm to his children and that defendant-mother’s denials of her husband’s history of violence also made her a risk of harm to the children," the decision said.
[...]

After today’s decision, the status of the children — ages 2, 3, and 4 — remained in limbo until a lower court holds a hearing on where they should be placed and what services the family should receive.
[...]

Case workers reviewed police reports documenting calls about loud arguments in the house, as well as the letter Deborah Campbell wrote and tape recordings of other arguments a neighbor provided, according to court papers. A DYFS worker also noticed the nailed bedroom windows, according to the court documents.

"The case worker tried to persuade the mother to leave the home and go to a safe place that DYFS would provide, but she refused," the decision said.

A DYFS worker also relayed information about the children after they were removed from the home.

"The boy had been aggressive with his sisters, and at one point took a vacuum cleaner to his sister’s throat saying ‘I’m going to kill you,’" according to court papers. The boy also threatened to kill the foster mother and had been aggressive at school, the court papers said. During the hearings that followed the Campbells’ loss of custody, the mother disavowed the letter, saying she had written it only as an outlet for her anger. She went on to describe her husband as a "loving, caring father who had never hurt her or the children."

The presiding judge reviewed a restraining order from Heath Campbell’s ex-wife, as well as a conviction he had received for making terroristic threats. He concluded the evidence did not prove the children had been neglected. He also said it was a stretch to say the father’s prior relationship was enough to demonstrate abuse and neglect with respect to his current family and pressed for the family to be reunified.

Today, the appellate judges disagreed.

"In this case, all the experts agreed that a defendant’s history of prior domestic violence is vital in assessing the risk of harm to an alleged victim of domestic violence or other abuse," the decision said.http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/08/state_judge_rules_dyfs_was_rig.html

[Obsolete]

"If anything may happened to me please do an altops on me b/c My husband has done something to me," the letter read. "Im afread that he might hurt my children if they are keeped in his care."

Well at least she's intelligent.


"The boy had been aggressive with his sisters, and at one point took a vacuum cleaner to his sister’s throat saying ‘I’m going to kill you,’"

Really? A vacuum cleaner?

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Heath and Deborah Campbell -- the Holland Township parents of three children with Nazi-inspired names who were removed from their home in 2009 -- say New Jersey child welfare officials took their newborn son into custody Thursday night about 17 hours after his birth.

Their family gained publicity in December 2008 after ShopRite in Greenwich Township refused to decorate a birthday cake for their son, Adolf Hitler Campbell, because of the boy's name. He and his sisters, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, have been in foster care since child services officials removed them from the Campbell home in January 2009.

Their new brother, Hons Campbell, was born about 2 a.m. Thursday at Hunterdon Medical Center after a doctor induced labor Wednesday evening, Deborah Campbell said. She said the doctor who delivered the baby called the New Jersey Division of Youth and Family Services, and DYFS officials arrived with police officers and hospital security guards about 6:50 p.m. Thursday to take the baby into custody.

The Campbells did not know DYFS would take Hons, and the officials gave no reason for taking the baby, they said.

"There's no legal binding court order," Heath Campbell said. "It's basically a kidnapping, but they use different terms."

DYFS is prohibited by law from providing information, a spokeswoman said today.

Deborah Campbell said guards were stationed at her hospital room to ensure she had no contact with the baby. She said she left the hospital earlier than she would have been discharged because she did not trust them.

Pasquale Giannetta, an attorney for the Campbell family, told The Associated Press a court hearing has been scheduled for Monday to determine whether the agency will keep custody. Deborah Campbell said the hearing is 12:30 p.m. in Flemington.
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/hunterdon-county/express-times/index.ssf/2011/11/heath_and_deborah_campbell_say.html

[Rockin Ma]

Deborah Campbell said guards were stationed at her hospital room to ensure she had no contact with the baby. She said she left the hospital earlier than she would have been discharged because she did not trust them.

True? Don't know because it's coming from just her. But if so, that's fucked up. Even though I suspect the kids were taken for a real reason, because this is way too long for no reason as the parents state, how do you keep contact from a newborn? Even in delivery the doctors and nurses are big on that contact between mother and child. I really really want to know what the heck man. The kids have been gone for a long time and no reason has been given, and they've now taken a new child away.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

The kids have been gone for a long time and no reason has been given, and they've now taken a new child away.
They were given a reason but it's hard to tell exactly what it is. From what I posted on Oct 28:

The appeals court ruled Thursday that sufficient evidence of abuse or neglect existed because of domestic violence in the home.

The court sent the case back to family court for further reconsideration.

A gag order remains in place and the parties refused to discuss the decision.

We never really find out what is going on in family court. From what little was told to the media, it looks like (my best guess) the dad is an abusive dictator and mom isn't willing to leave. I wonder if there is more but it just hasn't been revealed.

I don't believe that they were surprised that the baby was going to be taken. I think they're just playing the victim card. I am surprised that the delivering doctor was the one that called DYFS.

It will be interesting to see what the court says on Monday. If we even get to find out.

[Saffron]

Actually, someone on CNN chat posted a document from their case... it's pretty interesting reading. Clear child abuse and domestic violence, they are also refusing speech therapy for their kids which family court is using against them as evidence of neglect...

And the kids' names don't play one role in the case... the documents only list their initials.

http://lawlibrary.rutgers.edu/courts/appellate/a2208-09.opn.html

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Well that document certainly put a light on things. Thanks, Saffron!

There's a lot of craziness and denial going on there. One of my favorites:


Regarding the letter, defendant-mother acknowledged that she told Dr. Nadelman she wrote it so that her husband would find it and recognize that she was upset at him. Despite her husband's inability to read, she believed he could understand her writing.

[Jerri Blank]

Adolf Hitler Campbell Custody Battle: Parents Will Not Get Kids Back After Nazi Naming

A New Jersey Superior Court judge ruled Thursday that a couple would not regain custody of their four children, three of whom are named in honor of prominent Nazi historical figures.

Heath and Deborah Campbell, self-proclaimed Nazis from Holland Township, N.J., first made headlines in January 2009, when a store refused to decorate a birthday cake for their oldest child, Adolf Hitler Campbell, now 6. Shortly after the incident, Adolf and his siblings, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation, now 5, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeanne, now 6, were taken into state custody, the Associated Press reported. Child welfare officials also took custody of the Campbells' youngest child, Hons, hours after his birth in November 2011.

A state appeals court ruled in 2010 that the children were put at risk of abuse and neglect based on a history of domestic violence in the home, ABC News reported. Deborah Campbell once slipped a note under a neighbor's door saying she was terrified of her husband because he had threatened to kill her, according to court documents. Adolf Hitler Campbell also frequently threatened to kill people, ABC News added.

Now, after a three-year battle, the Campbells cannot have custody of their children, according to the court. Heath Campbell last saw his children about a year ago and is now separated from his wife, who moved out of the state, the Star-Ledger reported.

Attorneys on both sides of the case are not allowed to speak to the press due to a gag order, but the children's father spoke out against the ruling. His kids weren't removed from their home for abuse, he argued, but for their parents' beliefs and the names they chose to reflect those sentiments.

"If I have to give up my Nazism, then so be it. I'll do it," Heath Campbell told the Star-Ledger. "[The children are] more my heart and soul and everything than anything."

While not allowed to speak about the details of the case, United Press International reported that New Jersey Division of Youth and Family Services spokeswoman Kristine Brown said, "Every call or investigation that DYFS initiates at the end of the day is to determine if the child is at risk or in the midst of child abuse and neglect."

The family plans to appeal, according to UPI.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/adolf-hitler-campbell-custody-battle-nazi-names-new-jersey_n_1561046.html

[VAS1326]

Wouldn't their time and effort be more productively spent on changing peoples attitudes/behavior than enforcing silly name rules? They probably wouldn't allow my name because the diminutive of it rhymes with derogatory adjectives (and I've been called them all). What if they decide they just don't like the queen I'm named after?

I've been called alot of those names too. Though I can't think of any in particular that were too bad. Since there is more than one diminutive for our name I've tried finding a really bad name for the other as well and nothing too bad comes out of it. Hmmm...maybe I'm just tired and not getting it at the moment. I can see your point though about them deciding to just not like a name for any given reason and banning it. That doesn't seem very fair. Then again naming your kid Tulula Does the Hula From Hawaii doesn't seem very fair either.

[Dakota Valkyrie]

Doofus attention whore:

http://i.imgur.com/qJKG6KW.jpg

Dressed in a Nazi uniform, Heath Campbell marched into a New Jersey courthouse to petition a family court judge to allow him to see his youngest son.

"I'm going to tell the judge, I love my children. I wanna be a father, let me be it," Campbell told NBC10 Monday before court proceedings. "Let me prove to the world that I am a good father."

The closed-door hearing at Hunterdon County Family Court in Flemington, N.J., was being held to determine whether the 40-year-old father of four, who gave his children Nazi-inspired names, could visit with his 2-year-old son Heinrich Hons Campbell.

The boy was 16 hours old in November 2011 when he was taken from Heath Campbell and his now estranged wife Deborah Campbell at the Hunterdon Medical Center, according to the father.

The New Jersey Division of Youth and Family Services (NJ DYFS) said they took the boy because of previous violence in the home. An anonymous abuse claim was also made to local police.

The couple said they never abused their children and argued they were being targeted for the names they chose for their kids. Officials have denied that to be the case.

NJ DYFS officials had already placed Heinrich Hons Campbell's older siblings – Adolf Hitler Campbell, 7, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell, 6, and 5-year-old Honzlynn Jeannie Campbell – in foster care because of the alleged violence in the family's Holland Township, N.J. home.
[...]

"I've never abused my children, I only name my children and I don't think it's right anymore," Heath Campbell said. He said he hasn't seen any of his children in two years and that the three oldest children have been adopted by another family.

"Basically, what they're saying is because of my beliefs and I'm a Nazi, that us people don't have any constitutional rights to fight for our children," he said.

Asked whether he felt wearing the Nazi uniform, complete with a swastika patch on the arm and leather boots, into court would help or hurt his case, the father said it depended on the judge.

"If they're good judges and they're good people, they'll look within, not what's on the outside," he said.

Heath Campbell started wearing the uniform in June 2012 after forming "Hitler's Order,” a pro-Nazi organization. He was accompanied to the hearing by a member of that organization, Bethanie White.

White also wore Third Reich garb -- with swastika patches -- to the proceedings.

The father, who has Nazi symbols tattooed on his arm and neck and had Nazi memorabilia in his home, had previously said he was not a fan of Hitler's atrocities.

Heath Campbell says he and his wife have separated and that she has given up her rights to the children.

In June 2012, a New Jersey Superior Court denied the couple’s appeal to return the children home.
[...]

Heath Campbell says he plans to be back in court later in June for another hearing regarding Heinrich Hons Campbell's guardianship.

"I'm gonna keep fightin'," he said. "I don't care if it kills me. I love 'em."
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Nazi-Dad-Fights-for-His-Childs-Custody-209910241.html

[Pete Bondurant]

I cannot even begin to state all of the flaws with that fellow's "uniform." The Führer would have had him strung up like a carcass on a butcher's meat hook.

[DamagedGoods]

"If they're good judges and they're good people, they'll look within, not what's on the outside," he said.

Seriously... the irony here is killing me.

[cubby]

If you don't think the uniform should make a difference to the judge, why would you wear it and complicate something that shouldn't be complicated.

We all know that you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover but a lot of folks do and when you keep rubbing their noses in it, then you get what you get.

A good father's only concern would be his children and that good father would go to the hearing naked if he thought it would help, not wear the very thing that got them taken away.

[MCMLXIX]

Heath Campbell...that's who. Heath and his wife Deborah have three children: Adolf Hitler Campbell, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell, Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell. Lovely children, not so lovely names.

The Campbell's are in the news because they are mad as hell that a local grocery store, ShopRite, won't inscribe a happy birthday wish to Adolf Hitler on a birthday cake. Little Adolf is turning 3.

"We believe the request ... to inscribe a birthday wish to Adolf Hitler is inappropriate," said Karen Meleta, a ShopRite spokeswoman.

ShopRite did offer to make the child a cake and leave it up to the parents to inscribe...the Campbell's turned down that offer.

Now...aside from the fact that the Campbell's are complete idiots for blessing their children with such names, is ShopRite in the wrong?

Story here...
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/today/index.ssf/2008/12/holland_township_family_angry.html

Pics here...
http://photos.lehighvalleylive.com/gallery/4424/Adolf%20Hitler%20Campbell

It's a name, is their sir name Hitler? If not then they're some kinda Neo Nazi faction,or just plain stupid, and have the baby put up for adoption.

[Krystal]

The names they have given their children make for really good headlines and topics of discussion, but the reality is that they abused and neglected their children and that's why they ended up in foster care. Personally, I find the names they have picked insane and believe these two fucktards should be face punched but for abusing and neglecting their children they should be shot, not necessarily fatally just very painfully.

[MCMLXIX]

I'm all for having a licence to have a child and one child per family.
By the middle of this century our population will be roughly 9,000,600,000, that's just far too many people with the finite resources we have.

[Pete Bondurant]

I'm all for having a licence to have a child and one child per family.
By the middle of this century our population will be roughly 9,000,600,000, that's just far too many people with the finite resources we have.

There aren't enough white people! :confused2: