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Like others, the photo is not enough for me to say "lie," but I would seldom trust a still shot even in this circumstance, where I'd have to agree that it definitely LOOKS like the female is relaxed, and that if rape were happening I'd be more included to assume the drug or other altering substance.

I wonder where the alleged video appeared on the timeline, and if the one recording it had any ties to the involved parties or was just a bystander. Will be an interesting story to watch, considering that despite being very heavy with photographic evidence, it'll still need to focus on the very real need for both accused and victim to be heard with a willing effort to validate the claims.
 
She may have been on the date rape drug. Just because she looks calm doesn't mean it wasn't rape. That drug pretty much paralyzes you. You can't even yell or talk or anything. You'd be surprised how calm you get when a guy tells you to shut the fuck up or he's going to kill you or hurt you. :banghead:

True but usually when afflicted with paralysis the person goes down like a sack of potatoes...As for the aspect of her being calm dude could have been brandishing a weapon however that would be present in the picture but it is not. My guess is that she got black out drunk, consented while drunk, doesn't remember and honestly believes its rape because she can't remember, kind of a fucked up way to find out you got some the night before is by finding that shit on the net...Man when I was younger and dumber, I would get that way and dudes I hooked up with thought that meant we knew each other..lol, I remember how interesting it was to run into the dude with him acting like he knew me and I had no fucking clue who he was lol
 
Looks like they were both drunk:
A man who Tweeted a picture of a couple engaging in a public sex act near an Ohio University's campus says the woman — who claimed she was being raped — appeared to be enjoying herself and left with the man when it was through.

Vance Blanc, 19, told a campus newspaper that the woman "never said stop, she never struggled and she never asked for help" before reporting the act to Athens police as sexual assault the next day.

"She seemed like she was enjoying it, so I guess for everyone there it was like 'OK, it's not assault. It's not rape,'" the freshmen business major told the student-run Post.

However the woman's consciousness and her ability to give consent to the act being performed on her is now being investigated by police.

"It was obvious that both the man and woman were very, very drunk," Blanc said of her condition, which he acknowledges could have impaired her judgment - as well as the participating man's.

Never at any point did he or many of the others who had gathered to watch feel that the woman involved was being held against her will, he said.

"I know rumors said 10, but there were way more than 10 ... 20, 30 people just crowding around," he said of the others, who have since been criticized by police and students as doing nothing to help.

The Post claims that a video taken of the act shows the man performing oral sex on the woman against the side of the building as she flips her hair and holds onto the back of his head.

Witnesses are reportedly heard off camera offering mixed reaction to what was taking place.

"How can you not film this?" says one witness, according to The Post.

Another reportedly chastises the man's behavior while calling him a slut.

"That is literally f--ked up that you're pulling her vagina out right here. You're a slut. Should we start a line right here?" the faceless man allegedly says.

It was the claimed "shock factor" that Blanc says made him snap a photo of the couple and upload it to Twitter.

"It was something I'd never seen before. It was never meant to embarrass or harm anyone," he said of his motive.

The unidentified man pictured in the photo didn't walk away so easily when it was through though, as Blanc now reveals.

Blanc said that two men watching the scene unfold expressed wanting to beat up the guy for what he was doing to her.

They did, he said, before running from the scene.


Blanc said it was about 15 to 20 minutes later after he and his friend left the scene that they saw the couple walking down Court Street. The man's face was visibly bloody.

Blanc's friend allegedly asked the guy if he was okay. He said he was.

The man and woman continued to walk together according to Blanc before entering the same apartment building nearby.

"Obviously alcohol was a big part in this," Blanc told the paper.

He defended not knowing she was in as much danger as she now tells police.

If he did, he says he wouldn't have acted the way he did.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...alleged-rapist-photographer-article-1.1488455
 
two men watching the scene unfold expressed wanting to beat up the guy for what he was doing to her.

They did, he said, before running from the scene.


Blanc said it was about 15 to 20 minutes later after he and his friend left the scene that they saw the couple walking down Court Street. The man's face was visibly bloody.

Someone was mad that they didn't take home a drunk chick that night! Haters...
 
So much to say on this!

1) I graduated from this University over 20 years ago and know exactly where this happened. This past weekend, when the "attack" occurred was our homecoming weekend. Happy I chose not to take the kids to it this year – not a visual I need them to see – we come for the Marching 110 BAND! (Check them out on YouTube – they are amazing!).

Court Street is the main street for all the bars, clubs, restaurants, apartments, etc. for the University. Even at that time of night (especially on Homecoming) those streets are extremely crowded. If she wanted help she would have received it IMMEDIATELY. This was a drunk horny girl being “daring” and it went viral.

I was shocked to see this making national/international news. I heard about itthis weekend. Various alums that I know either heard about this or actually saw it. This girl was in no distress at all. She was fully engaged, and aware of her surroundings. Were the people I know horrified by the act – you bet! We are old and in the four years I went there I never saw public sex let alone people “taping” it (of course I come from the dark ages before cell phones). But the alums I knew are moms and dads and believe me as they were walking past if it had been an attack they would have intervened. THIS IS WELL LIT WELL TRAVELED AREA!

2) I was raped at this University. I had drugs slipped in my drink when I was a stupid 18 year old freshman not smart enough to not get my own drinks and let an older frat boy "woo me". I was not being raped orally on a busy street where I could yell for help. I was tied to a bed in and out of it the whole time due to the drugs.

Was the rape right - NO! But I also learned and teach others to be in control of your environment at all times. I will never dismiss rape but I’m sorry this is a girl calling “wolf”.
 
It's really frustrating when women pull the rape card when she does something regrettable in public with someone equally as drunk. It's completely unfair that only men are considered rapists in these situations. If they're both hammered why is only he at fault? If she's holding his head in she was clearly responsive. It might not be right to hook up with a very drunk girl but it shouldn't be illegal (and only illegal for the man) either. This only makes everyone else question the credibility of a woman is actually too incapacitated to consent, versus a woman who is just making really fucking stupid decisions.

You both did something stupid that will follow you around. Take some goddamned responsibility.
 
saw it too at 4chan. It' s not even the same pic from what i see. Everyone is saying it's photoshopped. You can see in the original pic he is looking at her and her hand is under her butt. I could be wrong but something about that doesn't look right.
 
saw it too at 4chan. It' s not even the same pic from what i see. Everyone is saying it's photoshopped. You can see in the original pic he is looking at her and her hand is under her butt. I could be wrong but something about that doesn't look right.

All of the articles said a lot of people were there and multiple people were taking pictures. It's a possibility it was photoshopped but from everyone's account (except hers, of course) they were just drunkenly fooling around in public, both at fault.
 
If a guy goes down on me without my consent, I'll stand there and guide him. Let people take pics. I won't say anything, I want the witnesses to ask me if I'm okay, because 'clearly' I am not. And since they didn't ask if I was okay, I'll pose for pictures afterward. How could they have put such a tragic part of my life online? I think the cops need to know that I was raped.
 
saw it too at 4chan. It' s not even the same pic from what i see. Everyone is saying it's photoshopped. You can see in the original pic he is looking at her and her hand is under her butt. I could be wrong but something about that doesn't look right.
There's video of it too. And multiple pictures. I doubt they would all look like the one used by the Daily News.
 
I haven't seen any video anyone know if there is one up? I never trust shit on 4chan. LOL
if it's anywhere, it would be on 4chan. I haven't seen it anywhere... just reports that both the student paper there and the cops have seen it.
 
I've seen porn clips that look closer to rape then that does. She even leans down to him at one point almost as if she's going to kiss him.

Rape is no laughing matter, I don't care how humiliated you are, you don't scream rape. I was raped at 13 by a close male friend of mine, within hearing distance of my sleeping dad (long story short the guy later killed himself). When I was 15 my boyfriend broke up with me and started dating my best friend. Not long after she started saying he raped her. I called bullshit and backed him on it. Sure he'd tried to get into my pants but every single time I said no he stopped. He never once copped a feel of my goods, naked or clothed, he never even got to grope a boob. The police got involved and I had to give statements on my relationship with both of them. In the end she admitted they had consensual sex but the judge ordered them to go to counseling..together. That just blew me away that even though she lied about it, admitted she lied, he still got punished by having to sit and look at her for months on end. She nearly ruined his life and eventually his parents moved away because this happened in a small town were if something happens, even if it's just lies and gossip..it follows you forever.

People who cry wolf about rape should get the exact sentence that the accused would have got if they'd been convicted.
 
She is bracing herself with her arms, and even positioning her hips so he can get to it better. Raped? Absolutely not.
 
If she was os drunk that she was incapable of consent, the law still calls it rape. Doesn't matter that the dude was probably just as drunk. Could he use a temporary insanity defense?
 
My own personal opinion is that she was drunk or drugged out of her mind. The next day, she sees this video, and freaks. If she was that much impaired, she was unable to consent legally, hence, the lawyer calls rape. This guy had to be impaired too. I just can't see a guy doing that in such a public place and then continuing after people have said things to him. Sometimes girls are really naive and can be stupid, taking drugs or drinking and expecting their date to be a gentleman. He's guilty of very poor decision making but I don't think he's guilty of rape.
 
I received a heartbreaking update to this story this weekend. I hope I put the link in correctly. One of my girls (she is just a sophomore) was WRONGLY identified as the girl in the video. Her life is just a wreck right now. I cannot believe they released a name let alone THE WRONG NAME. This realy upset me this weekend.

http://thepost.ohiou.edu/content/student-falsely-named-alleged-victim

I said "one of my girls" but she is not my daughter. I'm just involved with the sorority still. And being old enough to be her mother makes me feel like she is "one of my girls". I have two teen agers myself. And this whole story just really upsets me.
 
And now we have an innocent college Student getting crap for this cunt's poor decision making skills. It never fails that somewhere somehow an innocent is paying for someone else's bullshit. F this girl, I don't buy rape I do however think this girl is a nasty trashy slut who is just upset that everyone knows what a nasty tramp she is.
 
If she is saying that it is rape because she was too drunk to consent, which is absolutely rape, the witnesses say he was equally as drunk and therefore could say that she force him, making him the victim and her the rapist.

It's a double edged sword in this case if they were both very, very drunk as the witnesses state. He can't be held more culpable for sex acts while drunk as she can, using the drunk argument they are both victims and both perps.
 
They took the issue to a Grand Jury:

Grand jury says no charges warranted in controversial uptown public sex incident
Neither Ohio University student involved in a public sex act on South Court Street Homecoming weekend will face any criminal charges in connection with the incident, which attracted worldwide media attention after images and video of it captured by onlookers were widely shared through social media.

The man and woman involved in the incident are 20-year-old Ohio University students. A grand jury asked to consider the case on Monday returned "no bills," meaning they found no basis for criminal charges.

Athens County Prosecutor Keller Blackburn said the evidence uncovered by an Athens Police investigation shows that the woman – who claims to remember nothing of the incident, but who filed a police complaint the next day alleging sexual assault – did give consent for the man to perform oral sex on her.

In video of the incident, Blackburn said, the woman "had a smile on her face at one time," and grabbed the man's head in her hands at another. When the man asked if he should stop what he was doing, Blackburn said, "she said, 'No, go ahead, continue.'"

This was confirmed by an independent witness who was on the scene, Blackburn said.

The incident took place against the Chase Bank's brick wall on South Court Street around 3 a.m. on Saturday, Oct. 12, during OU's Homecoming Weekend. The woman filed her police complaint the next day, reportedly after learning of her behavior for the first time by seeing images of it on social media sites.
[...]

He said the man and woman, who had not known each other before that evening, met in an uptown bar and were drinking together. They left the bar some time after 2 a.m. and began making their way north on Court Street, kissing all the way.

Against the slightly sloped brick wall of the Chase Bank on South Court, the man began performing oral sex on the woman (and according to video, manual/digital sex as well), soon drawing a small crowd. Though the two are seen on video interacting with onlookers, Blackburn said, "neither of them had knowledge that (their sex act) was being video recorded."

He confirmed that a man came out of a nearby restaurant after the sex was concluded, and punched the man involved in the sex act, apparently because the assailant was "disgusted" by the public sex. (He noted that employees from the late-night burrito outlet from which the assailant came also gave the man and woman free burritos and water.)

The man and woman then left together, Blackburn said, and went to his Court Street apartment, where they spent about three hours. They were seen around 6:30 a.m. at an uptown gas station/convenience store.

During that time, Blackburn said in a later news release, "the female was responsive, visualized and screamed out her roommate's name and left with the male, who walked her home. The male provided the female with his cell-phone number via a text message. The male has voluntarily cooperated with the investigation."

Though the law holds that a person can be sexually assaulted if she/he is unable to give consent due to intoxication, Blackburn said the video indicated that the woman was responsive and communicating during the incident.

Blackburn said he considered the possibility of seeking charges such as pandering obscenity against the people (at least two have been identified) who took and posted video, and of public indecency against the male student. He figured these were probably not legally appropriate, however, he said. Blackburn noted that in an age of readily available (and legal) pornography, the contents of the videos might well not qualify as obscenity. And he advised Athens Police against filing indecency charges, he said, because the woman's reported total memory lapse would make proving such a charge against her very complicated, and because the punishment the two people have already suffered in the form of public humiliation is probably worse than anything the law would do to them for the misdemeanor offense.

He added that the woman was tested after the incident and found to be free of any "date rape" type drugs in her system.

Blackburn said there is "a lesson to be learned" from the incident, both about being more careful in public behavior, and not jumping to conclusions based on limited evidence such as Twitter posts.

These days, he warned, "everything we do has the ability of being recorded… We're living in a different world." He also noted that a female OU student who was wrongly identified in online sources as the woman involved in the public sex has had to suffer harassment and threats because of it.

Blackburn acknowledged that there are some people who are insisting that the incident was a sexual assault, and the woman was its victim. But he said he's willing to take their criticism for not treating it as one.

"Justice isn't always popular," he said.

[...]

In the wake of the prosecutor's news conference, Ohio University released a statement indicating that it will take steps in connection with the incident that are separate and independent from those of law enforcement, including an internal investigation.

"Regardless of the grand jury's determination following the criminal investigation, Ohio University is mandated by federal law to respond to allegations such as those that arise out of the incident that occurred during Homecoming weekend on Court Street," the statement said. "The health and safety of our community is of utmost importance."

It went on to say that OU "is following its own internal policies and procedures to investigate the circumstances relating to the incident. While the details of that investigation are not public, the policies and procedures require careful consideration when we receive reports of alleged sexual misconduct."
http://www.athensnews.com/ohio/arti...controversial-uptown-public-sex-incident.html
 
Blackburn said he considered the possibility of seeking charges such as pandering obscenity against the people [...] who took and posted video, and of public indecency against the male student.

Not that it really matters since the issue wasn't pressed, but what he did was obscene, and what she did wasn't? They both participated in getting it on in the street, why only consider him for the charge? I do agree that any charges against anyone here would be unnecessary though.
 
Not that it really matters since the issue wasn't pressed, but what he did was obscene, and what she did wasn't? They both participated in getting it on in the street, why only consider him for the charge? I do agree that any charges against anyone here would be unnecessary though.
Exactly, and why not consider charging her with filing a false police report?
 
Uh, maybe I am uptight or old, but I couldn't relax enough to enjoy that in public drunk or not. What were they thinking?
 
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