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Deceased Joseph Mcstay, Wife, And 2 Children Missing, Foul Play Suspected

Discussion in 'Missing Persons' started by Whisper, Feb 19, 2010.

  1. Krystal

    Krystal Veteran Member Bold Member!

    He killed his family, buried them and then buried himself alive.
     
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  2. Katie23

    Katie23 Well-Known Member Bold Member!

    Pete dont laser beam me

    I hate when people do that
     
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  3. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    @stefania - Fuck off ..
     
  4. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    I agree, they knew the people, however, I think they owed money to someone ..
     
  5. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    PUBLISHED: 16:14 GMT, 21 November 2013 | UPDATED: 17:03 GMT, 21 November 2013

    EXCLUSIVE: Police investigate mystery 'digger' track marks found at McStay family desert grave site 'left by killer who had local knowledge' as victim's brother insists 'everyone is a suspect.
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-McStay-family-grave-site.html#ixzz2mFzGwh4n
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
     
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  6. stefania

    stefania Active Member

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/23/mcstay-children-remains-id_n_4327351.html
    SAN BERNARDINO -- San Bernardino County Sheriff's officials confirmed through DNA evidence the remains of the two children found in shallow graves in Victorville have been positively identified as Joseph Jr. and Gianni McStay, the sons of Joseph and Summer McStay....

    If they've ID'd the kids through DNA, wouldn't they know by now when they were killed? Was it right after they disappeared or a year ago? I'd like to know.

    Also, about the tracks, I can't believe LE missed them. I think LE filled in the graves before they let the public back in the area. That's where the tracks are from.

    myra...I'm sorry, I goofed, but I fixed it.
     
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  7. Norcal Skim

    Norcal Skim Well-Known Member

    Moved towards Mexico to run his business, car found near Mexico, kids killed...dad was seriously in debt to some drug traffickers/dealers. 'Normal' criminals don't kill the kids. Just a guess.
     
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  8. mybum62

    mybum62 Trusted Member Bold Member!

    I believe they were abducted from their home...there were several signs they left in a hurry...not as the family would have left things. I don't believe the parents were involved in criminal activity. They were in the right place at the wrong time. Victims.
     
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  9. FangDelGato

    FangDelGato New Member

    The brother, Michael Mc Stay had made some rather concerning comments. Between the disappearance and long before the bodies were found he said something to the effect of, "At this point I think we're looking for two adult shallow graves and my two nephews' crosses."
    How would he know they'd be in TWO "adult"shallow graves? Why not one mass grave or four individual graves? And who references adult or child sized graves? The brother also removed items from his brother and sister-in-law's home while still stating they were missing/possibly kidnapped, that they wouldn't have left like that....so he was removing items from what he himself believed was a crime scene. He also claimed to not know the area where the bodies were found, but then supposedly was the one who clued the cops in to the Bobcat digging machine tracks and pointed out the quarry nearby, saying it wouldn't be odd to have heavy machinery in the area. He then further mentions a shooting range nearby (in this area he's never seen before) and says it wouldn't be odd to hear gun shots in the area either. There were also withdrawals from the family's $100,000 bank account after the disappearance and before it was frozen. Withdrawals made by the family mouthpiece, Michael McStay.
    Too sketchy in my opinion.
     
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  10. Piercedprincess666

    Piercedprincess666 Active Member

    W
    When I watched the nancy grave mysteries on the mcstay family... My first thought was something is sketchy with the brother
     
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  11. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    EXCLUSIVE - Best friend, business partner and suspect: Man who was last to see McStay father alive breaks silence to reveal new clues in mystery murder of family who vanished

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...der-mystery-breaks-silence.html#ixzz2meMKdPZ2

     
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  12. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    Paddle-Out Memorial Planned for McStay Family
    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Paddle-Out-Memorial-Planned-for-McStay-Family-235892301.html

     
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  13. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    http://www.760kfmb.com/story/24235590/mcstay-murder-mystery-who-is-michael-mcfadden
    McStay murder mystery: Who is Michael McFadden?

     
  14. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/11/20/mcstay-family-murdered-will-desert-graves-yield-their-killers/

    McStay Family Murdered: Will Desert Graves Yield Their Killers?
    I knew it!
    The dad killed them all, then killed himself ..
     
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  15. Piercedprincess666

    Piercedprincess666 Active Member

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  16. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    I genuinely think the dad killed the family ..
    LE hasn't released the cause of death ..
    I bet they were all shot ..
     
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  17. TeeJay

    TeeJay Well-Known Member

    This family puts the "fun" in dysFUNctional family. I haven't read through everything to understand what is going on, but Patrick cracks me up because he is such a drama queen. Thought you all might be interested in reading the drama, too.
    Patrick McStaySearch 4 McStays
    I will not dignify the comments made on another page. What I will say is we have the text messages that were sent to my Aunt (by Michael) and we have recordings of Susan and her comments to my Aunt. If they continue to lie about this I will publish every single word on the internet and the public can see what was said and judge from them. It started with me being told that if I didn't apologize to Joey's ex-wife I wouldn't be allowed to attend. Then later it changed and grew to the other story. So if the lies continue I will publish all the phone conversations and the nasty texts Michael sent to his Aunt!. So tell me if this is all about me then why did Susan and Michael ban my Aunt and Uncle (they always considered them there Aunt and Uncle) when he and especially Joey were so close to them throughout there lives. Stop with the lie's if you are a true Christian as you claim! Now he reduces this to a public spectacle as they were doing with the Services. They also contain the banning of the Aranda's and that will also be proven in the calls. I also have conversations with others that prove me to be correct.
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    Patrick McStay
    https://www.facebook.com/Search4McStays


    Search 4 McStays
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/search4mcstays/

    Why don't we hear about all the crazy in the newspaper articles?!

    Lynn Marquardt

    Patrick: There is a person claiming to be "a good friend of yours" posting on several sites that you and other family members have been uninvited to the memorial, etc. Please tell me this is incorrect?

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      Patrick McStay
      - Lynn Marquardt - Sorry it is correct. My Aunt and Uncle along with me and the Aranda Family. My Aunt was contacted and told directly by two people telling them that!
      7 hours ago ·
     
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  18. Chinchillazilla

    Chinchillazilla Ill Eagle Bold Member!

    What a tease.
     
  19. TeeJay

    TeeJay Well-Known Member

    Oh, he always makes threats. It cracks me up. He fights with almost everyone. Things got ridiculous between Patrick and his McStay FB page and Micheal and his McStay FB page. I had to unsubscribe to them.

    It can be very entertaining though, which is really sad because a family (was missing) is dead and is lost in all the drama.
     
  20. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    Holy fuck, talk about dramarama ..
     
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  21. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    McStay murder mystery: Who is Dan Kavanaugh?

    http://www.cbs8.com/story/24277118/mcstay-murder-mystery-who-is-dan-kavanaugh
     
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  22. Craftylikeafoxx

    Craftylikeafoxx New Member

    I remember seeing the E! Gay Hollywood Story on this..... I remember his family talking shit about Summer (wife) and how she was shady and secretive. Apparently her real name wasn't Summer, she had changed it years prior. I'm just curious why they bashed her and then haven't really said much about that angle again. I was curious why she changed her name...
     
  23. TeeJay

    TeeJay Well-Known Member


    If I remember right, she has many aliases, too. She was convicted of credit card fraud, too, if I remember correctly.
     
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  24. Titanic

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    She did change her name several times over the years. She had also been involved in some shady mortgage business at her work, but then again a lot of mortgage places were doing some shady stuff during this time period, so take that with a grain of salt.
     
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  25. Whisper

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  26. Whisper

    Whisper #byefelicia Bold Member!

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    Charles Chase Merritt, 57, has been arrested for murders of Joseph and Summer McStay and their two children, 4-year-old Gianni and 3-year-old Joseph Jr.
    Suspect arrested in the murders of California family who disappeared four years ago
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...calif-murders-mcstay-family-article-1.2002888
     
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  27. Whisper

    Whisper #byefelicia Bold Member!

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  28. Piercedprincess666

    Piercedprincess666 Active Member

    Holy shit!!! I thought an arrest in this case would never happen.... I wonder how they finally nailed him...
     
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  29. AllElseFailed

    AllElseFailed Well-Known Member Bold Member!

    And after all his big talk about how much he loved McStay and how much he suffered financially after his death. His previous quote about hoping LE finds the assholes that did this. What a bunch of horseshit. Murdering fuck. So glad they finally were able to charge him.
     
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  30. PsychoKitty

    PsychoKitty Well-Known Member Bold Member!

    I'm not buyin that it would have been possible for him to pull it off by himself. It would have tsaken more than one person tpo put the dad dead into a car he was big, the mom would have fought like a hell cat for her children well known and how the hell could he hav e driven their car down to border them up to nor cal area by himself??? still think the little pos tech guy and the other freak that actually had a place near where they were found were involved too
     
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