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https://www.usatoday.com/story/trav...ed-one-worlds-most-famous-airports/640943001/
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The Princess Juliana Airport on the island of St. Martin was “hit hard, with what appeared to be sand washed up to parts of the main terminal and the building's roof extensively damaged. No aircraft were visible on the tarmac,” The Associated Press reports.

Images of the damage circulated on social media. Severe damage can be seen inside the airport, including check-in counters and terminal areas. Other images appear to show remnants of a jet bridge sitting on the airfield apron.

The airport is famous in aviation circles for its runways that abut one of the island’s white-sand, blue-water Caribbean beaches, allowing enthusiasts and photo-seekers unusually close access to an active runway.
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[doublepost=1504801969,1504801605][/doublepost]https://www.bustle.com/p/are-there-...-irma-may-force-major-ones-to-shut-down-81432
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In anticipation of the hurricane to hit as early as this weekend, Gov. Rick Scott issued a statewide emergency. Depending on the path of the storm, two main Florida nuclear plants may close because of Hurricane Irma.

Peter Robbins, the spokesman for Florida Power & Light’s two nuclear plants told the Miami Herald that shutting down a nuclear reactor is a gradual process. Therefore, if they decide to close down because of the storm, the move won't be a split-second decision. On Wednesday, both the Turkey Point and the St. Lucie plant focused on cleaning the grounds and nailing down staffing plans.

However, as of Thursday morning, a final decision was yet to be made about the two plants closing down for the weekend. They both "If we anticipate there will be direct impacts on either facility we’ll shut down the units," Robbins told reporters.
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The Turkey Point plant survived the Category 4 storm Hurricane Andrew back in 1992, which to date marks one of the strongest hurricanes the country has seen.

Likewise, the St. Lucie nuclear plant survived the Category 4 Hurricane Francesback in 2004, then subsequently weathered the Category 5 storm Hurricane Wilma in 2005. Needless to say, the plants have been specifically designed and built to survive extreme weather, and not present danger to surrounding communities. However, none of these past storms were as strong as Hurricane Irma.
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In an email to Reuters, Robbins shared that the plants would likely begin shutdown before Saturday, or early Saturday — if that decision is made.
 
I've lived in FL almost my entire life, and a lot of long-time residents are usually somewhat nonchalant about hurricanes, but this one really has people on edge.

Water and gas supplies are already exhausted in a lot of areas. I'm sure it doesn't help the general panic that people JUST saw how deadly hurricanes can be, thanks to Harvey.

All you other SE Demonites, stay safe, and keep an eye out for this storm's track, please. <3
 
http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...g/no-hurricane-irma-cant-be-category-6-storm/
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The scale has changed in one significant way over the years. In 2010, the federal agency removed references to storm surge from the scale after some surge expectations proved to be off-base. (Storm surge refers to how far open waters reach beyond their normal levels on coastal land.) Instead, the center directs people to more specific forecasts about storm surge.

Unlike the Fujita scale for tornadoes, which runs from 0 to 5, the Saffir-Simpson scale uses measurements taken before a storm hits land. The Fujita ratings are assigned after a storm has hit and the damage is investigated.

Should there be a Category 6?
From time to time, there has been discussion of whether a new category -- Category 6 -- should be added to the scale. That decision would likely fall to the National Hurricane Center after discussions with scientists in the field, said Jill Trepanier, a hurricane specialist in the Louisiana State University department of geography and anthropology.

A simple extrapolation from the existing categories would probably set the threshold for a new Category 6 around 180 mph, making Irma a good candidate for that category if it existed, said James B. Elsner, the chair of geography at Florida State University who also runs a business called Climatek that develops software for hurricane and tornado risk models.

The idea of creating a Category 6 is often met with skepticism, however.

The most frequently cited reason is that Category 6 would add nothing to the understanding of how destructive the storm would be for buildings and other structures.
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And the scale’s co-creator, Simpson, agreed as well, in a 1991 interview. Asked whether the scale should be modified to include categories above 5, he said that above 155 mph, "it's going to cause rupturing damages (to buildings) that are serious no matter how well it's engineered. … That's the reason why we didn't try to go any higher than that anyway."

In fact, several scientists said that a more useful change, if one had to be made, would be to focus less on wind speed specifically, either by modifying the Saffir-Simpson scale to include other factors or by giving added attention to other measurements.

"I personally believe that we need to work on effectively communicating the other hazards that tropical cyclones bring, including heavy rainfall and storm surge," Bell said. Hurricane Harvey, which hit coastal Texas, "did cause significant wind damage as a Category 4, but much of the devastation in Houston and the surrounding areas was caused by inland flooding from sustained rainfall while Harvey was a tropical storm."

Similarly, "much of the damage from Hurricane Katrina was caused by storm surge when the winds were Category 3," Bell said. "These multiple hazards may not be well-correlated with the Saffir-Simpson Category at landfall, and therefore it is an incomplete description of the storm's destructive potential."

Trepanier said there’s no reason why a Category 6 is needed to communicate how fearsome Irma is. "Irma is a beast," she said. "It is safe to say the wind speeds are rare, but I see no benefit in calling it a Category 6. It should be considered catastrophic. And that is how people should refer to it."
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I've lived in FL almost my entire life, and a lot of long-time residents are usually somewhat nonchalant about hurricanes, but this one really has people on edge.

Water and gas supplies are already exhausted in a lot of areas. I'm sure it doesn't help the general panic that people JUST saw how deadly hurricanes can be, thanks to Harvey.

All you other SE Demonites, stay safe, and keep an eye out for this storm's track, please. <3

After trying 5 & 6 places each, we were able to get gas. The Mrs. picked up 4 cases of H2O on top of the 1+ case we always have. Picking up coolers and ice today, and we'll be boarding windows tomorrow. We've got a small generator, enough to run the fridge and a light, plenty of lamp oil, candles, batteries, propane, duct tape, and dry goods.
Also have several emergency escape routes and pet friendly shelters for all surround counties mapped in case we have to evacuate quickly.
We're high enough not to worry about storm surge/flooding, but there are a lot of trees around us, and we know from past experience that power can be out for a month or more.
Even though we're on the Gulf coast, this massive mamma's big enough to completely cover over the state and be in the Atlantic and the Gulf at the same time.
All eyes are on Aunti Irma here, and just waiting and wondering which part of the ride will be the worse.

Hope to catch you all again on the other side - stay safe all,

Sio out.
 
Important announcement from Palm Beach County.

http://bocanewsnow.com/2017/09/06/h...-county-says-stay-not-enough-gas-to-evacuate/
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“The state has advised that fuel demand is outstripping fuel supply and they advise that all residents shelter within the county.”

To put it in simple terms: don’t leave. There is likely not enough fuel to get you where you are going. It is safer to stay home or in a shelter than it is to risk being trapped on I-95 or Florida’s Turnpike. The complete shelter list can be found on BocaNewsNow.com.
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Please stay safe @Siobhan and @everjaded. (And any other FL peeps)

A friend of mine does disaster restoration (he's in Houston now and is already planning to head to Florida next.) He was told by their meteorologists that Irma is going to be the worst seen yet.

Please stay safe <3<3<3
 
I'm right on the Florida georgia border.
Mandatory evac for all of Florida all the way up to Savannah georgia.
There is literally nowhere to go.
Georgia hotels are sold out.
Mississippi and Alabama are full from us and Texas.
I-95 is gridlocked.
I work at a small store. We ran out of water Tuesday at noon. No c or d batteries. No flashlights, no candles.
Easy canned food is gone. Empty shelves.
We still have plenty of 3 liter and one liter sodas and gatorade. You want cookies? We have that.

Florida is closed beginning tomorrow until at least Wednesday.
I want the elders to leave. But where? How? Even if they left now, they'd be out in the storm.

I'm not worried for myself. I'll be fine.
Mr Valasca had emergency heart surgery 5 years ago. He has a titanium valve. Largely i think he'll be okay, but of course I still worry.

Mr Valasca's 90 year old grandmother is my concern. We live with her and despite her numbers, she isn't old. I will kill or die for her, but I'd like her to leave.

Sounds like the in-laws are staying with us. Good. They are 69 and 72. I don't want them in their trailer. Come here.
My sister-in-law will also bring her cat.

Despite living on a river, I think we'll be safe.
Hurricane Matthew brought water up to the house, but it barely touched a corner.

There is a shotgun handy. Just in case.
 
We're feeling the gas pinch here in Canada... it cost me $80.00 to fill my tank this afternoon. $26.00 more than usual. I'm irked about it but still better off than Florida.
Stay safe everyone.
 
@Valasca my bf went to the range to sight in his rifle scope as part of his hurricane preparedness plan. :rolleyes:

I'll take the shotgun and we have plenty of pistols and other options between us if shit REALLY hits the fan.

So far only the county next door to mine is requiring evacuations, and only for people in Zone A right on the coasts. They're doing mandatory evacuations up that far north already too? Wow. They're not taking any chances I suppose.
 
The way I read the prediction, this bitch of a storm is huge, bigger than anything within my lifetime. I am in central Georgia, about 4 hours west of Savannah, but the way it looks we will still get some of it, lots of rain and some wind, more than what we usually get. One of the predictions shows it coming right over us, tho we are so far inland that it'll just be a whisper of what the rest of y'all will have suffered.

In 1979, I was in the Augusta hospital having a c'section, when hurricane David came up the Savannah river. It's about a 5 minutes walk from the river to the hospital, the whole building was swaying, the windows flexing, it was scary to say the least.

I am keeping all of y'all in my thoughts and hoping everything works out. Hoping that Florida is prepared to weather one more storm. Y'all can do it.
 
Mr Valasca's grandmother is confused about "mandatory evacuation."
She thinks we'll get into trouble if we don't leave.
I've explained to her twice that it means we won't get into trouble, we just can't count on emergency services.
 
I have an octogenarian aunt and uncle living in Titusville; he retired from NASA. They can't leave because he is in rehab after a recent bout with pneumonia. I'm not sure if she's planning on staying at the house or what. Very concerned for both of them.

My ex and his wife just moved to Wintergreen after retirement, and they have evacuated to Pensacola.

Really, I'm concerned for everyone to be impacted including those of you here. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Guess by now everyone has heard about the whopping 8. something earthquake on the Mexico Guatemala border. Disasters abound.
 
It looks like at this moment that Irma is going to hit, to one extent or another about 5 states, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, S. Carolina, and Tennessee. The forecast, that I'm watching right now, has it swinging more to the west and starting at the keys and going up the middle of Florida, it's not leaving nobody out, that's for sure.

A friend called me last night and said Thomaston was out of gas. I sincerely hope not, but the way things are going right now, it's most likely true.
 
I have an octogenarian aunt and uncle living in Titusville; he retired from NASA. They can't leave because he is in rehab after a recent bout with pneumonia. I'm not sure if she's planning on staying at the house or what. Very concerned for both of them.

My ex and his wife just moved to Wintergreen after retirement, and they have evacuated to Pensacola.

Really, I'm concerned for everyone to be impacted including those of you here. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Guess by now everyone has heard about the whopping 8. something earthquake on the Mexico Guatemala border. Disasters abound.
Did i conjure that?

I just said yesterday *all we need now is some earthquakes.
 
My best friend's son and daughter in law are in Pensacola, he's taking flight training at the naval base there, I haven't heard if they're coming north or not.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...e-hurricane-irma-wave/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_fb_tmg
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Apromising young professional surfer has died at the age of 16 while catching a wave in Barbados during Hurricane Irma, the World Surf League said.

Zander Venezia, a native of Barbados, reportedly fell off his board and hit a shallow reef at a beach called Box by Box, it said. He and other surfers were riding a swell generated by the Category Five hurricane.

Speaking to the magazine Surfline, fellow surfer named Alan Burke said: "Zander was bleeding, and he wasn’t moving.
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The son of a surfer, Venezia won the Rip Curl Grom Search in the Outer Banks in North Carolina in mid-August, and in April he won the National Scholastic Surfing Association regional championships.

The Barbados newspaper Nation News called Venezia one of the island’s most promising junior surfers.
 
i can only imagine how terrible this is going to be. @Siobhan please check in as much as possible! i pray that everyone's loved ones stay safe. i have an Aunt there that was thinking about evacuating last night. she lives in plant city. i'm really worried for her. i hope everyone is able to leave.
 
I respect and fear the power of nature ..

Whatever happens ... was meant to be.
Humans are very arrogant .. she's here to knock us down a few notches.

All the pretty shit we aspire to have and the power we want to gain .. she can destroy in an instant.
.. Be happy for the simple shit and be good to one another.
 
Yep we're out of gas, all that's left in a few stations is the super extra premium or whatever that is $3.50 a gallon. My car would probably explode if I put expensive gas in it.

Seeing a lot of travel trailers and such coming thru town. I'm sure they're from Florida, Hiway 19 runs straight thru the middle of town, before interstates, this was the preferred way to go, down 19, straight on to Miami.
 
Yep we're out of gas, all that's left in a few stations is the super extra premium or whatever that is $3.50 a gallon. My car would probably explode if I put expensive gas in it.

Seeing a lot of travel trailers and such coming thru town. I'm sure they're from Florida, Hiway 19 runs straight thru the middle of town, before interstates, this was the preferred way to go, down 19, straight on to Miami.

Your car won't be harmed by the higher octane fuel. Just don't use diesel or E85 (Flex fuel).
 
Yeah I know it won't I was mostly being silly, I didn't buy any basically because I got half a tank and I didn't want to spend 3.149 to 3.599 for it. I went round several stations today and those are the prices I saw. The cheap gas was 2.599 to 2.899. Up from 2.149 just a week ago.

I'm at home and I'm staying here, somebody want to see me, they're gonna have to come to me this time.
 
@brandi I'm also in Plant City. I'm not sure if you've ever been down here, but it's far enough inland to not be in one of the established evacuation zones for coastal flooding or storm surges.

The bigger concern out here is flooding due to torrential rain, and wind/projectile damage. Also tornados, potentially. Hopefully we'll be alright. The updates keep getting more and more grim.
 
@brandi I'm also in Plant City. I'm not sure if you've ever been down here, but it's far enough inland to not be in one of the established evacuation zones for coastal flooding or storm surges.

The bigger concern out here is flooding due to torrential rain, and wind/projectile damage. Also tornados, potentially. Hopefully we'll be alright. The updates keep getting more and more grim.
oh shit! you're right there then lol the updates are never right until it's too late. are you evacuating? or did you decide to stay?
 
Apologies to everyone that I won't be on hand here to post updates, although I may be able to do it from my d-i-l's ipad if I can wrest it away from the grandkids. :rolleyes: If I see anything crazy I'll definitely get here one way or another with the information. Love and safety to all of you! :hug:
 
oh shit! you're right there then lol the updates are never right until it's too late. are you evacuating? or did you decide to stay?


We're staying. I live more inland than my bf's Dad, so he and his dog may have to come bunker down with us.

There are gas shortages all through the state. I don't want to get on the road and get stuck in the middle of nowhere that could be just as hard hit, with no way to get back home.

Plus my LOVELY employer is still open today (and planning to be on Monday as well) :bored:and I manage a team that needs me here for as long as I still have power and internet.

We have pets and stuff too, so we are hoping we can ride out the next few days at home safely. I'm reaaaaaaallllllly wishing for storm shutters right about now, though. Like you said though, who knows, there's always a possibility it could take another turn for better or worse. Until it's right here, it's impossible to say.
 
@everjaded Just stay safe as possible. don't worry about the gas shit, that's literally happening EVERYWHERE. My boss planned on us coming back to work that Monday too, but guess what? lmao!
Make sure if you need help, you get help. you're a grown woman, so i'm not gonna give you the whole hurricane break down lol. keep us updated as much as you can!
 
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