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Ethan Carlile " He Did Not Hear The Victim Tell Him No Once" Phone Says Different

Discussion in 'In The Mean Time' started by Sugar Cookie, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. Sugar Cookie

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  2. Sudonim

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    What exactly did she think was going to happen after taking, depending upon the relaxer, 2-4x more then normal dosing along side what I assume was a stiff drink? I'm not excusing what happened or victim blaming but at some point people need to stop putting themselves in bad situations. This is a bad situation even without the rape.

    Muscle relaxants aren't known for making people lively, they aren't a party drug and they come with many, many warnings on them saying a normal dose can knock you on your ass. I wouldn't even take that combo on my own, let alone in a situation where I was expected to be semi social and functioning enough to find my way home later.
     
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  3. Sejanus

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    Rapist POS.
    Break out the hedge clippers and a hammer.
    Time to make some "Private Parts Pate"

    Hope the victim gets some help.
    Like perhaps helping her understand not to take meds that will put you out cold with a sketchy neckbearded guy determined to Netfux and Rape.
     
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  4. Forensicwx

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    Come on!

    You realized it was a different Ethan. You still went into his apartment anyway.

    THEN you had a drink.

    THEN you took 3-4 muscle relaxers?! To mix with your alcohol?

    I’m sorry. At some point accountability is ‘a thing’. What he did is disgusting. However she needs to re-examine her life choices. As well as understand that sometimes you make yourself more likely to be victimized.

    Which is exactly what she did.
     
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  5. carolinablue

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    Sounds like victim blaming. Accountability belongs to the perp. I don't care if she was buck nekkid, wandering up and down the street. NO MEANS NO. Drunk, high, tired, goofy>... NO MEANS NO.
    Now I'm mad because I remember. I wish I could stick my finger thru my eyeballs and pull every memory out.

    This is what I went thru at 12
    Why did you go to see him? why didn't you run for the door? why didn't you go to the police? Why didn't you fight back? What were you doing there anyway?
    I STILL want to hunt them down...and beat the liver and lights out of them. Shove their faces into a mattress. Ignore the screams. Oh, there is so much more.

    There's more but I don't want to write War and Peace. I do want to find Roy Moore and cut off his weewee...I won't do it, but I LUV thinking about it.

    Do not blame victims. Most of us have PTSD. I do. It's been my constant companion for 56 years. It still is. That's why I have to go to my shrink. I like him, make him laugh!
     
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  6. Sudonim

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    I don't excuse what he did. Not at all. Nor am I blaming her for the rape. I blame her because she is an idiot. What if she drove home in that state? She wasn't planning to stay there, she didn't even want to be there after she found out it was the wrong Ethan but stayed because she was embarrassed. What she did was stupid. Plain and simple.

    I will say this, as someone who's been raped twice and sexually assaulted once..she bares responsibility with some of her actions prior to what happened. Not for the rape itself, but for events that lead up to it because lets face it, she wasn't walking down the road minding her own business when a rapist jumped her from the bushes. She wasn't drugged with any date rape concoction. She willing took meds that suppress normal muscle function and cause drowsiness and coupled it with alcohol. She didn't take them for pain, that kind of dosing is to get high. From how it's describe he didn't even offer her them, if he had it definitely would have been in the affidavit with a chance of accompanying charges.

    Each and every rape is different, as are the victims. You were 12, at that age there is nothing you can do wrong, nor should you be responsible. A full grown adult like this woman here, yes we can play a role, however small, in what happens.

    The two rapes? I did nothing wrong and there's nothing I could have done different. Hind sight is a bitch but during those moments it was out of my control completely. The sexual assault on the other hand I do have some responsibility in how that happened. Recognizing you fucked up, were irresponsible and played a part in what happened doesn't mean you 'asked for it', deserved it or anything of the likes. It doesn't negate the word no or stop. It doesn't make what happens your fault. It simply means you accept responsibility for your own actions which put you at risk to begin with. If you can't acknowledge when you make mistakes you are doomed to keep repeating them.
     
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  7. Prettypink513

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    "their"? As in plural? :( I'm sorry CB
     
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  8. carolinablue

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    Plural? More like a gang. It went on for years.
    I wound up cutting, burning, pulling out my hair, hitting myself so hard I cracked my jaw.
    I wanted to die and came damn close to it.
     
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  9. Muriel Schwenck

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    She stayed even though it was a different Ethan, not out of social embarrassment, but because he offered her drugs.
     
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  11. Mata Hari

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    I mean it wasn’t the smartest choice but when will women be able to party with friends and not have to worry about being raped?
     
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  12. Sudonim

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    @Mata Hari she never refers to him as a friend, just as a former co-worker and she wasn't really all that willing to be there after she found out the mistake, she just stayed to save herself embarrassment.

    She could have stayed sober, hung out for 30 minutes to an hour and fled without him being any the wiser that she mixed him up with another Ethan. Instead she chose to get so fucked up that she blacked out. That isn't partying. It's not really a party with friends if it's just you and one other person.

    Statistically speaking you are far more likely to be raped by an acquaintance than a friend and even more likely to be raped by family. Friends are the least of peoples worries when it comes to this.
     
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    My wife and I met because she had me confused with another person with the same first name that lived in my apartment. I didn't rape her. Instead, we fell in love and got married.
     
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    This makes me want to hug 12 year old you and tell you it was going to be ok.Im so sorry this happened.Kudos to you for surviving.
     
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  15. carolinablue

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    As awful as was it made me the woman I am today....John Wayne toilet paper...I don't take shit off anybody.
    I offer to help other women; I escort rape victims to the hospital, and hold their hands when they are being examined. I listen to their stories and offer them a room in a shelter. It helps me too.
    Last year I smuggled a Yorkie into the shelter. Didn't get caught either. Pet Therapy often helps with depression.
     
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    Right on CB..You're no victim..You're a fucking survivor!

    The thing I can never understand is how a man could even get an erection with a sloppy, drooling, fucked up female. No thanks babe. I'll catch you tomorrow when you're a little more lively!
     
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    Still he needs his dick cut off leave a piss tube to pee take his balls to since he's a fucking ahole
     
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    You got married?!? How many muscle relaxants did that take?!?

    j/k, that's a cool story.

    On a more serious note, how many Ethans does she work with?
     
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  20. Echasez

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    I mean, everybody's right, about making better choices, but the deed is done, she made herself vulnerable and we can all agree It's never okay to rape.

    It's just kind of jarring for some of us, I guess, the need to point out, in a nutshell, it's not her fault, but kinda her fault... it feels like victim blaming.
     
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    <3 Carolina, I'm so sorry about what happened to you in the past .. :hug:
     
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    None, thank goodness. There is only one male in the medical practice she manages; her brother. Everyone else there are females. I keep hoping she'll invite one of them home, but......
     
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    This is an adult though who chose to act like a total fucking idiot. Swam with sharks and got bit, no sympathy and much ridicule from me
     
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    Thank goodness for criminals who are also idiots.
     
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  25. carolinablue

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    My idiot friends came over 2 weeks ago. My idiot friends decided to cut my (shoulder-length) hair.

    My absent minded sister decided (without my approval) I needed to dye my hair. Sooooo...I wound up with coal black hair...then she decided to bleach my hair roots. The rest is history...

    I may have to shave my head.
    My life folks, my life... :confused:
     
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