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California Mother Tells Of Tonsil Surgery Tragedy

Discussion in 'General News' started by GirouxFilms, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. Teleute

    Teleute Trusted Member

    I'm just going to repost @TeeJay's link to the Atlantic article in response:
    http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ead-ever-wakes-up-feeling-pretty-good/253315/
     
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  2. Azryhael

    Azryhael Princess of Putrefaction Bold Member!

    Don't make me bring Mike the Headless Chicken into the conversation!

    ETA: Mike had a decent chunk of his brain stem intact post-decapitation, which, not to sound crass, is more brain function than little Jahi McMath will ever have. Jahi's family is turning her body into a sideshow reminiscent of Mike the Headless Chicken in the 1940s, and it makes me sick.
     
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  3. Teleute

    Teleute Trusted Member

    Hey, I just found something... the "routine tonsilectomy" (as it's been reported by nearly every media outlet) included a Uvulopalatopharyngoplasty.

    After a UPPP, you're supposed to wait a full week before ingesting solid food. Think Mom really listened to the doctors? Whether or not she did could easily be established by an autopsy. I'm starting to suspect at least part of the reason Mom is doing this is as a smoke screen.
     
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  4. Azryhael

    Azryhael Princess of Putrefaction Bold Member!

    Or at least it could have been, had the autopsy been done three weeks ago when she died...
     
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  5. Teleute

    Teleute Trusted Member

    I'm sure we all have California law regarding corpse transfer memorized at the point, so here's some more on the New York angle:
    New York State Code Section 4200:
    New York State Code Section 4144:
    And in case they attempt to deposit it in the City:

    New York City Code Section 205.21:
    In other words, you need a permit to hold onto a corpse for more than four days.

    New York City Code Section 205.23:
     
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  6. Teleute

    Teleute Trusted Member

    Here's how "near completion" The Brendan House actually is:


    This footage was taken on December 22nd, when the windows were finished being installed. They're still in need of funding, and it doesn't look like they anticipate opening before April 2014.
     
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  7. TeeJay

    TeeJay Well-Known Member

    I thought I read somewhere the family is looking at a facility in Arizona.
     
  8. Teleute

    Teleute Trusted Member

    Yeah, they claim they're considering a facility in Arizona as an "alternative" because they want the body closer to home.
     
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  9. Nell

    Nell #scapegoat Bold Member!

    When I read the body will become malnourished over time the first thought I had was, "good, she could stand to lose some weight."

    I am going to hell. I blame you guys. You are horrible role models.
     
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  10. Teleute

    Teleute Trusted Member

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: we need a "SOOO WRONG LOL" button... or something to that effect.
     
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  11. Azryhael

    Azryhael Princess of Putrefaction Bold Member!

    That's why we love you, Nell. You say what everyone else is thinking with no apologies. Tell it like it is!
     
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  12. stefania

    stefania Active Member

    http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/dec/31/tp-sleep-apnea-can-complicate-tonsillectomy/
    I gushed a lot of blood from my mouth about an hour after my tonsillectomy, but it was expected. So, this idea of her sitting there with a cup of blood and nurses saying to get a larger container doesn't sound abnormal to me at all. Does anyone else remember their tonsillectomy? I don't think the surgery was at fault, I think it's whatever happened in the ICU.
     
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  13. Azryhael

    Azryhael Princess of Putrefaction Bold Member!

    I've shared my story earlier in this thread. I nearly bled to death five years ago while at work two full weeks after my tonsillectomy. Had my workplace not been a hospital with a blood bank and an emergency room with an available trauma surgeon, I would be dead.

    Immediately after I started bleeding, the L&D charge nurse stuck a basin under my chin before bundling me down to ER, but by the volume of blood it was instantly apparent that nothing normal was going on.
     
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  14. Teleute

    Teleute Trusted Member

    At this point, someone not affiliated with Children's Hospital just needs to walk into that fucking room and disconnect the body. What are they going to be charged with, murder? The girl's already dead! Abuse of a corpse? Don't make me laugh! Trespassing? Not if they have legitimate business being in that hospital.

    I find the fact that a human corpse is receiving costly medical treatment while actual LIVING people are going without medical care absolutely vile.
     
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  15. Azryhael

    Azryhael Princess of Putrefaction Bold Member!

    As far as Ms Winkfield's opinion on the terminology Children's staff use to talk about the remains- sure, it would be insensitive if she had only just passed moments ago, but it's been fucking weeks! The time for coddling you has long passed, and at this point the hospital's referring to Jahi as "the body" is to help you get it through your thick fucking head!

    And really, how do you propose to feed the corpse? Idiot woman.
     
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  16. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    LMFAO!!!
     
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  17. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    Seriously???

    Wake me up when this shit is over ..
    Mama is nuts ..
     
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  18. Teleute

    Teleute Trusted Member

    If Mom is looking to feed her daughter post-mortem, what does this say about the odds of her having fed the girl post-op?

    She needed to have waited a full week after surgery before ingesting solid food. I'm tell you ladies, this is a smokescreen.
     
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  19. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    I don't know about a smoke-screen but, mama needs to accept reality and move the fuck on, already ..
     
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  20. Krystal

    Krystal Veteran Member Bold Member!

    What does one feed a corpse? It's brains and human flesh right? That's what I remember for all the zombie movies at least.
     
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  21. Rockin Ma

    Rockin Ma Chauffer specializing in geriatric transport Bold Member!

    The hospital calls her deceased. Family through a lawyer says she is responding to her mother. The court granted another extension.

    The court must not be convinced yet she is a dead person despite the hospital purposely using the words "deceased" and "corpse" every chance they can get.
     
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  22. myra manes

    myra manes Unfazed Crusader Bold Member!

    I think the court is simply showing compassion for the family ..
     
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  23. TeeJay

    TeeJay Well-Known Member

    I told someone earlier she's probably losing weight. haha If only the mother would have put Jahi on a strict diet she may not have had such a complicated surgery. :-(


    Wow, I didn't know tonsillectomies were such serious business and especially for people with sleep apnea. I've heard people having their tonsils removed to help sleep apnea though. Kind of scary it's so serious for sleep apnea, yet the surgery is routinely performed.

    I had my tonsils removed in May of 1981 when I was 5 years old. The doc told my parents some tissue was "dropped" down my throat (I don't know how they protect airways during these surgeries, but obviously it went down my esophagus). I had no complications though. As soon as I woke up I started eating popsicles to help the scratchy feeling in my throat. My older brother and I were in the hospital together. He got sick. We both still spent a week in the hospital.

    I remember getting in trouble by the nurse because I raised the bed as high as it would go and I jumped off then couldn't get back in. I had to go out to the nurses station to get someone to help me get back in bed then they took away my controller. :hilarious:
     
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  24. Teleute

    Teleute Trusted Member

    Little Debbie Cakes?

    Keep in mind that this is California, and we're looking at the potential violation of the constitutional rights of an undead minor. I think the court is simply trying to be progressive.

    I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the whole, "I'm just so happy that she is kind of a thick girl so she still looks good... I tell her every day, 'Jahi, you losin' weight girl, but you still look good.'" Does this epsilon-minus semi-moron seriously not grasp the full extent of the damage she caused that girl? Forget the question of whether or not she slipped her a post-op treat; I'm talking about morbid obesity in a child and choosing surgery over a change in lifestyle -- surgery which, besides being incredibly risky on account of the girl's weight -- is known to be virtually ineffective for obese patients.
     
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  25. Dakota

    Dakota FORUM BITCH / Beloved Cunt Bold Member!

    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...enter-for-Jahi-McMath-Attorney-238372101.html
     
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  26. Azryhael

    Azryhael Princess of Putrefaction Bold Member!

    You nailed exactly what I wanted to get across. Thank you.

    But with surgery, they can pretend it's a medical issue, not the result of poor lifestyle choices. There very well may have been other legitimate medical problems that the surgery was supposed to help, but the primary treatment of sleep apnea in an overweight patient should be weight loss through lifestyle changes.

    I know that losing weight is incredibly difficult for many people, and it's not fun, but surgery to fix symptoms in order to avoid confronting the underlying problem is not the way.
     
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  27. Teleute

    Teleute Trusted Member

    I threw together a pretty detailed analysis of this dog and pony show the other night (Sunday), and I wrote a follow-up last night. I thought about copying and pasting it here, but I didn't think Dakota would want me dumping several thousand words into a single post. (Besides, I'd probably break the Internet.)

    My son is yelling "PLEASE STOP!" right now so I'd better go.
     
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  28. Nell

    Nell #scapegoat Bold Member!

    I
    http://news.yahoo.com/calif-family-struggles-surgeries-teen-093701946.html



    I think that means Jahis family is screwed.
     
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  29. Azryhael

    Azryhael Princess of Putrefaction Bold Member!

  30. Dakota

    Dakota FORUM BITCH / Beloved Cunt Bold Member!

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/01/health/jahi-mcmath-girl-brain-dead/index.html
     
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