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Army Private’s Dog Found, But Family Refuses To Give Dog Back

Discussion in 'In The Mean Time' started by Satanica, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. Satanica

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    http://fox8.com/2017/01/09/iteam-army-privates-dog-found-but-family-refuses-to-give-dog-back/
     
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  2. spiff

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    So, sounds like she had a dog she was completely unable to take care of and abandoned the dog for six months, and then decided she wanted the dog back.

    Anyone who's been enlisted - can you even really have a dog if you're active in the military and have to be the sole caretaker? Or would she have to selfishly pawn it off again for months at a time and then demand its return whenever she comes home?

    Don't get a pet if you can't stick around to care for it. Simple as that.
     
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  3. Satanica

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    There are a ton of groups dedicated to helping our veterans with this very thing, but most say "deployed" troops so I don't know if they would've helped her or if there were fosters available in her area. The "friend" who agreed to keep the dog is a total douche for not letting her know if he could no longer honor his obligation.
     
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  4. Alf

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    There is no black-and-white answer, Spiff.

    During basic training? Nope.

    At your home station? Maybe. The number of unaccompanied housing units that allow pets other than fish is so close to zero that the difference is lost in the noise. Some accompanied housing allows for pets, as does some off-post housing.

    When deployed? Pets are not allowed on a deployment, though if one finds a stray the chance exists the animal can be brought back from the deployment.

    In a nutshell, if one's circumstances allow for a degree of daily downtime and there are no regulations prohibiting it, a military member may have a pet -- much like anybody else.

    --Al
     
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  5. spiff

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    I agree with this a whole ton although my first post doesn't necessarily sound like it. I'm guessing this guy is her ex and "family friend" just sounds better for the media. He sucks.

    @Alf 's description makes it sound extremely unlikely that she will be fit to own a pet. I absolutely despise that she's using the military to engender sympathy and to nationally demonize this poor family who are also victims.

    I want a dog, but I also want to go on trips whenever I damn well please where I can't bring a dog. You can't have both unless you're a selfish asshole. Enlisting in the military doesn't mean you have the moral right to be shitty to animals just so you can come back to something fluffy.

    If she is planning to leave again I hope she chooses to leave the dog with the permanent, loving home this time around. If she's back for good, fair enough, the new family did receive stolen property so it's a fairly black and white case, but I don't see any indication that she has any plans to provide a forever home for this dog.

    Hopefully she's moving to a very permanent, pet friendly home and that the articles just don't say that.
     
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  6. proudmom

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    So what we are saying is that it's ok for someone serving our country to leave their children for long periods of time but not their pet. To her I bet this dog feels like her child.

    She made arrangements for her pet. Her "friend" was a total douche.
     
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  7. Mata Hari

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    I am torn about this one. I had a dog when I joined the Army. I left her with my mom. I wouldn't call it abandonment though. I also took in a stray cat a couple years ago and a year and a half later the previous owner showed up and tried to take her back. I was like fuck no.

    If my mom had given my dog away I would have been pissed. But like Alf said, single soldiers can't really have dogs anyway, so I think she should just let it go.
     
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  8. spiff

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    What?! Absofuckinglutely no? Of course I don't think someone should abandon their children to skip away to the military if they're a single parent, that's a horrible thing to do. I think it's beyond disgusting when parents enlist to get away from their kids.

    Kids aren't loaners, pets aren't loaners. They need permanent homes.
     
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    Bummer.
    Asshole friend should be on the hook for legal fees and a replacement dog.
     
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  10. Satanica

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    That happened to me, too! In fact, I'd had the cat for several years when the woman came to my house and offered me an old beat up swing set in exchange for it. :eek:
     
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  11. lithiumgirl

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    We send our dogs to Camp (country club kennel for pets) when we're away. I don't feel selfish at all....they love it.

    This family is a house of jerks ... so what they love the dog ... the guy they got it from was charged with a crime for giving them the dog at all ... that right there would have me being all I'm sorry lady here is your dog back.

    **** I love the name BUCK...that was my Jeeps name.
     
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  12. JackBurton

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    How long did this family have the bloodhound? I'd need that answer before determining that they are scumbag trash(which it sounds like they are). The guy def needs to get sued.

    Leaving a pet with someone you believe to be a loving, responsible person who will take good care of it while you're away = being shitty to animals???? What the fuck!???

    You realize how commonplace it is for people to leave their pets with family, friends, or kennels right?

    But your stance is, "if you can't be there all the time to take care of the dog due to your military duties, you shouldn't have a dog at all."

    The subsequent poster made the comparison to children, asking the question, "if you can't be there all the time to take care of your children due to your military duties, should you have children at all?"

    Your logic seems to strongly suggest either that children somehow require less oversight and parenting than a pet or that you would have to agree that military members should stay on their lonesome entirely, no kids/no dogs.
     
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  13. spiff

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    I'm talking about the future. This time sounds like a sheer mistake, but yeah I don't think you should "loan" a pet out for six months and come back and pretend you're still its main family. You wouldn't do that to a kid... hopefully.

    Would you leave a dog in a kennel for six months at a time?! Kennels are for a week, maybe two. Beyond that, no I don't think it's an acceptable long term solution whatsoever.


    If you don't have an active partner who will be the caregiver for a kid, hell noooooo you shouldn't be a single parent and be active in the military. It's too bad that some people want it all, but if you want to have a kid you are obligated to provide a stable home, and voluntarily ditching your kid to leave the country as a single parent is not acceptable. If you want a family, stick around to have one. If you want to leave, you'll be alone. It's a choice.

    Again, no idea why you're getting the impression that I think kids are easier. I think ditching your kid is infinitely worse.
     
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  14. JackBurton

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    Thousands upon thousands of people do that every year, with no detriment to the pet.

    Dogs have no sense of time btw. As soon as you leave they convince themelves you're not comin back, that's why they're so happy to see you upon your return. A week might as well be a day, and so forth. Comparing it to a child is absurd.

    Kennel nope, not for that long, obviously. Perfectly fine to leave em with family/friends for that duration though provided they're not scum.

    For a dog, there's not much difference between some close friend/relative that the dog knows well and an active partner/spouse. There's no damage being done leaving a dog with another person it loves.

    While i agree being a single parent and in the military is difficult and def shouldn't be a sought after situation or a situation one permits themselves to fall into out of irresponsible sinful behavior, the verbiage here is quite offputting. THe notion that military members sent on deployments all voluntarily ditch their kids in order to do so is quite vile and is a great misrepresentation of the mindset/motivations of most folks in the military.

    And i find it questionable that your ruleset demands an active partner, which i took to mean a spouse or gf/bf of similar significance. There's plenty of people who maintain very close relationships with their parents, and having to spend 6 mos with grandma and grandpa isn't a bad thing, nor is it THAT harsh of a sacrifice, surely not one that should drive anyone to question why that member hasn't separated entirely and found another line of work cuz of the damage being done to their offspring.

    Just trying to understand your logic based on your earlier, conflicting simpleminded comments.
     
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    I'm prior AF and was married with a 2 yr old son when I joined. You would def need to find either a family member or trusts worthy friend to hook you up for a few months. My problem when I finished training my husband didn't want ME back! Yup the douche found another woman before I completed basic! The red flags started coming up when he stopped coming to church with my son to see me. I was from San Antonio so, he was able to go to the same service and visit with me on Sunday. Basic training for Air Force is in San Antonio. Well, when Graduation came around his family was there with my son but, not the hubby. Ain't that some shit!! For some reason after Tech School he thought it was Family time again and tried to hook up again! Uhhhh Noooo!!! When I got to my first base with my son in hand, I meet Ssgt Husband #2. I guess you could say I upgraded. Soooo, it's not a sad ending!
     
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    She had the dog since he was a puppy. He is 5 years old. She obviously had the dog for several years before she became a member of our military. I dont see a problem with leaving your beloved pet with a family friend. Family friends don't usually give away the pet they agreed to take care of. Thank God it was a dog that is " like a son" to her and not actually a child.
     
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  17. JackBurton

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    If she had it that long, then this family fighting her on it are in fact a bunch of scumbags.
     
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  18. CelticMyth

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    I found this while trying to do a search for an update. This is what the family who has Buck are saying. Are they lying? Did Angelo lie to them? Did Katelyn have regret and changed her mind?


     
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    Interesting turn of events. The military is full of fucking scumbag trash, so i automatically am more inclined to believe this familys version of events, now that i've heard it.
     
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