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And back to the actual story . . . ;)

A news crew got access to his apartment. Apparently it was full of head shots and sex toys. :facepalm: Since there was a puddle of cat pee on his floor and he was known to fling cat poo at his neighbors' apartments, I am the kind of person who wonders what happened to the poor cat or cats, especially as he claimed in his manifesto that " he once killed his cats because of “nasty racist things” his WDBJ coworkers said."

No word on the mysterious missing felines in the story. Pics at the link:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/vester-flanagan-barren-apartment-article-1.2340296

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Sources at the apartment complex said that while Flanagan was 'nice' to his female neighbors, he frequently lashed out at the men.

Sources at the apartment complex said that while Flanagan was “nice” to his female neighbors, he frequently lashed out at the men.

“He would literally just throw cat s--t into their balconies,” a source told the newspaper.

A long list of residents logged complaints against the former TV reporter with the complex’s landlord.

“He had attitude all the time,” one unidentified resident told NBC News, adding that Flanagan "walked around with a chip on his shoulder.”

Flanagan’s apartment was dark, dingy and decoratively desolate. While police raided the pad, they found a puddle of cat urine on the kitchen floor and cat feces on the balcony.
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You're entitled to your opinion.
What's a shinning?
All I'm saying is, every victim nowadays is shamed somehow. No, I don't like it.
All the African Americans killed lately "were no angels." Why is she any different?

He filed a complaint against her because she used the term "out in the field," in regards to reporters being "out in the field," which is a common term in broadcast journalism. Apparently this is why she was "no angel." He also filed a complaint because she used the term "swinging by," as in "swinging by to pick someone up." According to you, this is why she was "no angel." You are repulsive.
 
So... thanks to Oberle's link I am sure of it. I feel bad for him.
Mental illness is real, yo.
 
I don't feel bad for him. Mental illness is real, but it isn't a blanket excuse for committing crimes against others. There are nearly always flashes of insight, of clarity, which a person can use to seek help. I've heard nothing to indicate that he ever sought any help at all, yet.

There's nothing about the apartment photos that screams mental illness. It's basic, but I know plenty of guys who live with minimal furnishings, and not as cleanly either. So he had porn and scented candles? and sex toys? Big deal. Newspapers trying to make the apartment sound like the den of a serial killer, when it's nothing interesting at all.

I don't doubt that he had some fucked up thought processes, and most likely a mental illness that gave him a persecution complex and rage. Killing his cats is a big red flag, I wonder who knew about that? But mental illness or no, it doesn't mean he was incapable of helping himself, and doesn't mean he'd inevitably premeditate murder. No pity for him, no excuses.
 
I read on another site I (accidentally!) fell into googling this story. Lots of commenters think the whole thing is a set-up, a fake. They're saying no way did the reporters and interviewee not see him and/or the gun, there was no blood, no gun casings, lots of screaming and running (which probably wouldn't have happened had they been shot point-blank), then simultaneously Hillary is asking for stronger gun laws.

They're asking for post-mortem pics or autopsy reports/pics for proof. Makes me sick - why would anyone put themselves and their families through a fake murder to make a point? The first shot could have been to the photographer's head, which is why the women got to run away. The surviving victim was shot in the back; the other two in the head and the female reporter in the chest also.

Pretty disturbing, wondering if anyone else heard any of these speculations?
 
I read on another site I (accidentally!) fell into googling this story. Lots of commenters think the whole thing is a set-up, a fake. They're saying no way did the reporters and interviewee not see him and/or the gun, there was no blood, no gun casings, lots of screaming and running (which probably wouldn't have happened had they been shot point-blank), then simultaneously Hillary is asking for stronger gun laws.

They're asking for post-mortem pics or autopsy reports/pics for proof. Makes me sick - why would anyone put themselves and their families through a fake murder to make a point? The first shot could have been to the photographer's head, which is why the women got to run away. The surviving victim was shot in the back; the other two in the head and the female reporter in the chest also.

Pretty disturbing, wondering if anyone else heard any of these speculations?

It makes sense peope are saying its fake.there are people out there that say sandy hook shooting was fake too
 
I was going to comment on how twisted and bizarre it is to feel sorry for someone cuz they happen to be a sociopath, but petes reply pretty much says all that needs to be said. Well done, and right on.
 
You're all certainly within your rights to disagree with me. I have a hunch many of you haven't dealt with someone who's severely mentally ill. To that I say Thank Goodness. I wouldn't wish it on anybody. Having to deal with someone with mental illness is tough. Very tough.
 
Sorry to repeat myself, but back to the 'fakeness' of the shooting - they were in a little shopping plaza, right? Wouldn't any or all of those shops have surveillance cameras that could have caught the shooting? Sounds ghoulish of me, but I wish they would release the video footage from a different angle, if anyone has it. I'm not questioning that these people were killed, but it's disturbing to me that others are, and to see it from a different angle - like from a fixed camera aimed at the shooter rather than all the activity from the shooters POV - would end that discussion.
 
You're all certainly within your rights to disagree with me. I have a hunch many of you haven't dealt with someone who's severely mentally ill. To that I say Thank Goodness. I wouldn't wish it on anybody. Having to deal with someone with mental illness is tough. Very tough.

More than that, I've been severely mentally ill. You don't get much more detached from reality than having a manic psychotic episode. Still didn't hurt anyone.

I advocate for understanding of people with mental illness on these boards all the time. But saying someone bears no responsibility for their mental health is as bad as not understanding that mental health issues are real.

Having known someone with severe MI does not qualify you to diagnose this perp, when we've still had no evidence to say that he was mentally ill.
 
Sorry to repeat myself, but back to the 'fakeness' of the shooting - they were in a little shopping plaza, right? Wouldn't any or all of those shops have surveillance cameras that could have caught the shooting? Sounds ghoulish of me, but I wish they would release the video footage from a different angle, if anyone has it. I'm not questioning that these people were killed, but it's disturbing to me that others are, and to see it from a different angle - like from a fixed camera aimed at the shooter rather than all the activity from the shooters POV - would end that discussion.

Deja, that wouldn't end the discussion. Those kind of conspiracy theorists will not be swayed no matter what evidence you present. They have an agenda, and a purpose for wanting to believe that it's faked, and will fight tooth and nail to argue it, no matter what evidence is against them. You're better off looking at the evidence for yourself, and not trying to persuade them. You'll only be wasting your time.
 
Deja, that wouldn't end the discussion. Those kind of conspiracy theorists will not be swayed no matter what evidence you present. They have an agenda, and a purpose for wanting to believe that it's faked, and will fight tooth and nail to argue it, no matter what evidence is against them. You're better off looking at the evidence for yourself, and not trying to persuade them. You'll only be wasting your time.

True Scarlett...I just read an earlier article that said police are reviewing surveillance tapes to identify the shooter, so obviously they have them, maybe just aren't releasing them publicly.
 
Conspiracy theorists have an idea then they skew all their own thinking to believe their idea, then they set out to change the mindset of seemingly intelligent reasonable people, some who believe, some who don't, but then the believers get louder and louder until someone, supposedly credible, who doesn't do his dutiful research, believes the propaganda and presents it as the truth.
 
More than that, I've been severely mentally ill. You don't get much more detached from reality than having a manic psychotic episode. Still didn't hurt anyone.

I advocate for understanding of people with mental illness on these boards all the time. But saying someone bears no responsibility for their mental health is as bad as not understanding that mental health issues are real.

Having known someone with severe MI does not qualify you to diagnose this perp, when we've still had no evidence to say that he was mentally ill.
Whoa wait a minute. I never said he wasn't responsible, i said i felt bad for him. He is absolutely responsible. I watched the video, he hesitated. He KNEW what he was doing.
 
You're all certainly within your rights to disagree with me. I have a hunch many of you haven't dealt with someone who's severely mentally ill. To that I say Thank Goodness. I wouldn't wish it on anybody. Having to deal with someone with mental illness is tough. Very tough.
You see, here's the thing with mental health professionals, they are the ones who understand the consequences of the victimhood mentality. How self-pity will destroy logic and reason.
The only thing worse for the mentally unstable is to allow them to play the blame game.
It is the weak who coddle bad behavior to justify guilt.
Add in victimhood and blame game and we have a new social cause.
Kind of how the latest activist can peddled their liberal agenda to the overly educated who have lost any semblance of conman sense.
 
You're all certainly within your rights to disagree with me. I have a hunch many of you haven't dealt with someone who's severely mentally ill. To that I say Thank Goodness. I wouldn't wish it on anybody. Having to deal with someone with mental illness is tough. Very tough.

Sociopathy isn't on the same level as something like clinical depression or bipolar disorder. Fuck scumbags like this guy. I think it's pretty offensive to lump shit like that and personality disorders and shit in with actual mental illnesses that ruin innocent, otherwise decent peoples lives.
 
I read on another site I (accidentally!) fell into googling this story. Lots of commenters think the whole thing is a set-up, a fake. They're saying no way did the reporters and interviewee not see him and/or the gun, there was no blood, no gun casings, lots of screaming and running (which probably wouldn't have happened had they been shot point-blank), then simultaneously Hillary is asking for stronger gun laws.

They're asking for post-mortem pics or autopsy reports/pics for proof. Makes me sick - why would anyone put themselves and their families through a fake murder to make a point? The first shot could have been to the photographer's head, which is why the women got to run away. The surviving victim was shot in the back; the other two in the head and the female reporter in the chest also.

Pretty disturbing, wondering if anyone else heard any of these speculations?


Yes, I have heard them. My son actually told me he heard this as well.
I don't believe it was fake at all and frankly, i think it's kind of stupid if some believe it.
They would have to be idiots if they think it is fake. :meh:

Nothing against you of course because i know you are not the one suggesting it but that you heard it somewhere...But i do have a question however...do you think it's fake? ;)
 
Yes, I have heard them. My son actually told me he heard this as well.
I don't believe it was fake at all and frankly, i think it's kind of stupid if some believe it.
They would have to be idiots if they think it is fake. :meh:

Nothing against you of course because i know you are not the one suggesting it but that you heard it somewhere...But i do have a question however...do you think it's fake? ;)

Angel, I didn't think for a minute it was faked or staged...it looked horribly real, and the victims' families are all too believable about their loss. I watched that tragic video so many times, I have no doubt it's legitimate.

I am not linking the website where everyone questioned the story, but PM me if you want and I'll send you the link.
 
The two journalists killed by a gunman while broadcasting in Virginia were shot in the head, officials have said.

Both of their causes of death are listed as homicides by the US state's medical examiner's office.

Alison Parker suffered gunshot wounds to the head and chest while Adam Ward died from gunshot wounds to the head and torso.

It is not yet clear how many times Parker and Ward were shot during the attack on Wednesday.

Vicki Gardner, who was being interviewed at the time of the attack and was shot in the back after the gunman missed her twice, got up and walked to the ambulance after being hit, said her husband Tim Gardner, speaking to ABC News.

Ms Gardner is now in a "good condition" at a hospital.

"But the surgeon told me that a couple of centimetres and she wouldn't be walking, and a couple of centimetres and she wouldn't be alive," Mr Gardner said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34090236
 

Slain TV reporter’s dad turns video of her murder into NFT in bid to remove it from internet​

The father of a TV reporter who was fatally shot along with her cameraman during a live broadcast turned the horrifying video into an NFT, or non-fungible token, in a “Hail Mary” bid to remove it from the internet.

Andy Parker, whose daughter Alison Parker was gunned down by a disgruntled former co-worker, has transformed the harrowing clip of her murder into an NFT in an effort to claim copyright ownership of it and allow him to sue social media outlets, the Washington Post reported.
 
Guess he should have done his homework first. NTF's dont have copyrights lol The copyright is owned by the original person/company who shot the footage/made the art, no matter who 'buys' it. NTFs arent even legally recognized or regulated. What he could/should have done is appeal to whoever owns the news station for them to use their copyright to have the videos pulled.
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After going to read the article, they mention exactly what I said. NTF arent copyrights. Plus they have a statement from the station.

WDBJ parent company Gray Television reportedly owns the copyright to the original video of the shooting.

Kevin Latek, chief legal officer for Gray, argues that the clip does not depict Parker’s murder since the “video does not show the assailant or the shootings during the horrific incident,” according to the Washington Post.

He told the paper in a statement that the company has “repeatedly offered to provide Mr. Parker with the additional copyright license” to call on social media outlets to remove the video “if it is being used inappropriately.”

But even if Parker’s strategy works, getting the copyrighted clip removed would not be enough because the NFT doesn’t cover a separate clip of the murder captured by the shooter, the outlet said.
I get grief making people do weird things, but effectively all he's done is drag it up to the spotlight again and reignite people wanting to see it.
 
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