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A man who was shot more than 13 years ago in east London has died from his injuries.

Marvin Couson, 39, was wounded at the Lime in London bar in Shoreditch in May 2002. He was left unable to communicate or leave his bed, and died on 8 August.

Police have launched a murder investigation and appealed for witnesses to come forward.

About 600 people were at the bar on 12 May 2002 when police were called to reports of gunfire. They found Mr Couson lying on the ground outside with a gunshot wound to the chest.

A man was arrested during the police investigation, but later released with no further action.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33987289
 
Well...if Mr. Couson had died the night he was shot, and his murderer arrested, said perpetrator would have been released five years ago. Such is the state of law and order in modern Britain.
 
Looks like his family is a bunch of bastards too. Poor guy.
Please people, let your loved one die if they are in this state!
 
How do you figure that?

On the evidence of the rest of the post, I should say she thinks so because they didn't take him off life support; but I am not sure they would have been given that option. We don't know that he was brain dead, and unless he was.......
 
Couson suffered injuries to his heart and internal organs and was left bed-bound and unable to communicate or understand anything said to him after the shooting.

I don't think they would have had the choice to let him die. It doesn't seem he was brain dead, more of a vegetative state.

Things like this make me happy I live somewhere that I can opt to be euthanized if I'm ever in this kind of a predicament.
 
Believe it or not, although our sentences here in the UK are often shameful and mostly shit due to draconian laws , when it comes to gun crime that is where the harsher sentences are handed out . Because firearms are not legal for most members of society here they like to make an example of anyone using them in a crime, the sentencing is harsh for any gun related robbery or shooting even if the gun is fake or even if they pretend to have a loaded weapon .


My neighbours Son got 5 years jail time for threatening someone with a BB gun .


I feel sorry for his man and his family who no doubt have kept vigil and supported him however they could over the years . There is no choice here to end a loved ones life unless the Doctors advise or suggest it , like truly brain dead etc . I would imagine he had just enough to qualify as a survivor and nature had to take its course . Doctors have the power to pull the plug even against the families wishes if they feel life is not sustainable .

Unless someone admits or snitches I can't see justice coming anytime soon .
 
Things like this make me happy I live somewhere that I can opt to be euthanized if I'm ever in this kind of a predicament.

Holy shit. I did not know this is even an option. Please tell me how this is done? This is one of my biggest fears- should something tragic occur, I would most definitely not want to be trapped In a shell of my body unable to move or commumicate. For 13 years?? Nope. Please do not hope for a miracle. Let me go- love me as I was, as keeping me alive like that is in no way at all, letting me live.

Another question I have is, and please forgive me if it's a dumb one-

In the picture his eyes are open. Maybe thats what threw me off- was he brain dead, like with no nothing, no thoughts or emotions or abilities?
Or
Is he literally trapped in his body, like he's awake and knows whats going on but just cant move and communicate?

Unable to beg someone to end my misery AND unable to end the misery myself?! That brings a whole new level to it. Dear Jesus! I pray he was brain dead n didn't just wake up every day wishing that he hadn't n praying he didnt tomorrow too. Omgggggg that is even more horrifying to think about.
 
Things like this make me happy I live somewhere that I can opt to be euthanized if I'm ever in this kind of a predicament.

This kind of predicament would have left you unable to communicate any such wishes. You'd be stuck.

Good that he finally died. Shame on docs for keepin him kickin.
 
Holy shit. I did not know this is even an option. Please tell me how this is done? This is one of my biggest fears- should something tragic occur, I would most definitely not want to be trapped In a shell of my body unable to move or commumicate. For 13 years?? Nope. Please do not hope for a miracle. Let me go- love me as I was, as keeping me alive like that is in no way at all, letting me live.

Another question I have is, and please forgive me if it's a dumb one-

In the picture his eyes are open. Maybe thats what threw me off- was he brain dead, like with no nothing, no thoughts or emotions or abilities?
Or
Is he literally trapped in his body, like he's awake and knows whats going on but just cant move and communicate?

Unable to beg someone to end my misery AND unable to end the misery myself?! That brings a whole new level to it. Dear Jesus! I pray he was brain dead n didn't just wake up every day wishing that he hadn't n praying he didnt tomorrow too. Omgggggg that is even more horrifying to think about.

In the Netherlands you have the option to be euthanized, even for things like chronic clinical depression. You have to go through a lot of phys evals and other stuff, but in the case of vegetation and end stage diseases, the process is made a lot shorter and you can use living wills to cover those wishes.

Here's a link about euthanasia here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_in_the_Netherlands

This kind of predicament would have left you unable to communicate any such wishes. You'd be stuck.

Good that he finally died. Shame on docs for keepin him kickin.
I wouldn't need to communicate it, that's already been done ;)
 
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