Walter Palmer: Cecil The Lion Killer

[Cameray]

Found on Walter J Palmer’s Yelp link...thanks Bob C.!!

The linked article explains the scientific basis of Dr Palmer's passion for killing majestic animals so that he can cut off their heads and hang them on his wall to impress his fellow sufferers from this unfortunate condition. Put simply, he has an exceptionally small penis. Medical research explained below.

New Research Finds Long-Suspected Link Between Hunting and Small Penis Size

Diminutive male genitalia disorder (DMGD) has, until this month, been considered only a theory in the scientific world, but now the long-suspected link between hunting and unusually small penis size has been established as scientific fact by the Diminutive Male Genitalia Disorder Research Organization (DMGDRO). The DMGDRO has conducted an extensive two-year study on men with diminutive male genitalia disorder.

Lead by Mike Streams and Brian Upchurch, who began their collaboration on human sexuality research while undergraduate students at Johns Hopkins University, DMGDRO is a team of New Orleans, Louisiana-based scientists interested in the study of male sexual disorders and dysfunction. Having identified the genetic disorder linking small male reproductive organs and the ability to derive pleasurable sensations from killing in a controlled environment without fear of personal harm (as differentiated from war or fighting back in an attack by a human being), also known as “controlled victim” aggression manifestation, Streams and Upchurch believe that there may be ways to combat men's feelings of inadequacy and curb some of the destructive behaviors that such men engage in as coping mechanisms.

“It's really quite interesting,” Dr. Streams says. “Like much folklore, it appears that, certainly in this case, there is a foundation in fact. This is the first time that research has been conducted on men who hunt, and it shows quite definitively that the link between what we are calling ‘the thrill of the kill' and a smaller-than-average penis is statistically significant."

Initial tests conducted on mice and rabbits proved inconclusive, but subsequent human test subjects showed what Dr. Upchurch calls “staggering results.” The subjects ranged from having a slight abnormality in penis size to a “pubis innyus” or inverted male pubic region. As data were gathered, the numbers revealed a discrepancy so great that it seemed to suggest a genetic mutation. By tracing what has been identified as the “DMGD gene,” an abnormality was discovered on the 21 st chromosome. Further investigation proved that this abnormality is consistently linked to two traits: abnormally small reproductive organs and “controlled victim” aggression manifestation. Drs. Streams and Upchurch and their colleagues theorize that an extreme case of DMGD may have been to blame in the 2004 Sawyer County, Wisconsin, incident in which a hunter went on a rampage, shooting at a group of other hunters and killing six of them.

Reaction from participants has been positive, and subjects described the results as liberating and a relief to finally be able to label their problem as a legitimate medical disorder.

Dr. Upchurch reports, “The first step in the treatment of a disorder is to understand its origins. We are pleased to have crossed that important threshold.”

 

[mrcarolinablue823]

Cameray, Dr Upchurch musta used my last ex husband in his research.

 

[LurkinLion]

Found on Walter J Palmer’s Yelp link...thanks Bob C.!!

You should probably include a disclaimer with this, since your post appears to suggest this is a legitimate journal article.

 

[Cameray]

You should probably include a disclaimer with this, since your post appears to suggest this is a legitimate journal article.

April Fools fun, PETA played a little joke on everyone with this news release...

 

[LurkinLion]

“pubis innyus” or inverted male pubic region.

LOL, yeah, I'd say they did a good job. Just scientific-sounding to be good satire, but over-the-top enough that a quick skim makes it obvious it's a joke. Fun read. Thanks for posting it.

 

[McDanel]

Cecil sired 24 cubs in his pride. Those cubs are already dead or soon will be. The other males in the pride will kill them to bring the females into estrus and breed their own cubs. Nature red in tooth and claw. <-----Hemmingway

I'd like to do something bad to this asswad, but I'll settle for a long public shaming. I hope he loses all his patients, is shunned by friends and neighbors, disowned by his family and treated like the pos he is.

I wish his home town would put his smug face on a billboard; let the logo read: I kill endangered animals for fun. I woould absolutely be on the sidewalk in front of his house (legally) holding signs calling him a coward.

I also favor pouring "blood"...Karo syrup+red food coloring on his sidewalk...only because I couldn't pour it on him. That would be battery or assault and I'd go to jail...might be worth it. The ASPCA and Peta would bail me out.

Good news, Cecil's brother Jericho has stepped in, and is protecting the cubs. Very rare occurrence, as typically the cubs would be killed by the new alpha male

 

[McDanel]

Of the several things that bother me about this hunt, I'll mention these two. When cutting off Cecil's head and skinning the carcass, might one not wonder about the tracking collar? Second, the Dr. is a bow hunter, and not an especially good one, as it took 40 hours before Cecil was sufficiently near death for the Dr. to walk up and shoot him.

The entire "sport" just seems kind of chicken-shit to me. Of course we can use technology to kill things, we've done it for thousands of years, what's to prove? You want to impress me, hunt bear with a knife!

 

[LurkinLion]

http://news.yahoo.com/outrage-over-cecil-lion-going-too-far-170422007.html

 

[Cameray]

Lion-killer dentist Walter Palmer gets PR brush off

Even the publicists involved with lion-killer Dr. Walter Palmer need crisis managers.

The backlash against the dentist who shot beloved African big cat Cecil has become so thermonuclear that public relations specialists are clamoring to distance themselves from the mess.

On Tuesday, hours after news broke that the doc had apparently illegally killed the Zimbabwean lion, Spong PR agency frantically tweeted, “To confirm, Spong does not represent Walter Palmer. Please direct all media inquiries to Jon Austin at jon@jaustingroup.com.”

Unwilling for the buck to stop with him, Austin did his own damage control, also posting to Twitter, “Yesterday another PR firm asked (sic) to help distribute Dr. Palmer’s statement. Having completed that task, we’ve ended our work on this issue.”

Doug Spong, founder of Spong PR, tells Confidenti@l that he got mixed up in the situation accidentally because the disgraced dentist happens to be a neighbor and asked him to recommend a crisis PR consultant.

“This has not and will not be a client of ours, so please do not associate my name or our firm’s name with this issue at all,” Spong said.

The flack tells us he pointed Palmer in the direction of crisis publicist Austin and quickly washed his hands of the bloody matter.

It’s not clear whether Palmer has managed to find an agency willing to take on his case.

Maybe he shouldn’t get his hopes up. Industry website PR Week surveyed its professional readers, asking, “Would you rep the dentist who killed Cecil the Lion?” The site reported nearly 90% said they’d turn him away. “The PR community has been in universal agreement that this crosses an ethical line,” it said. “Many believe no amount of PR can fix the damage caused by Palmer’s own actions.”

Confidenti@l has also discovered that print publications in which Palmer advertises are beginning to run for the hills as well. National beauty publication New Beauty, which ran ads for his Minnesota practice, River Bluff Dental, has severed ties with him.

As if anyone were in any doubt about the trouble Palmer’s business is in, you know a brand has become radioactive when magazines won’t take its money.

“NewBeauty became aware of Dr. Walter Palmer’s personal activities this morning as it began surfacing in the press,” the mag posted on Facebook last week, when the scandal broke. “We are equally as disappointed in what transpired, and we have ceased all advertising ties with him and his business.”

 

[Cameray]

 

[Cameray]

2nd American doctor accused of illegally killing a lion in Zimbabwe...

Jan Seski: American Hunter Accused Of Illegally Killing Lion In Zimbabwe With Bow And Arrow

In light of the scandal surrounding the killing of Cecil the lion, another American doctor is accused of illegally killing a lion in Zimbabwe. Dr. Jan C. Seski is being named in an investigation into an alleged illegal hunt that happened back in April of this year.

Dr. Seski, 68, is a gynecological oncologist and surgeon in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He’s now the focus of another illegal bow and arrow hunt that killed a lion near Zimbabwe’s Hwange National Park, the Zimbabwe National Parks and Wildlife Management Authority said in a statement on Sunday. The doctor’s address was also released on the site.

According to the statement, Zimbabwean landowner Headman Sibanda was also arrested and is assisting police with this investigation. He’s being charged with breaching hunting regulations for hunting without a quota and permit at his Railway Farm 31. Sibanda also owns Nyala Safaris, which conducted the hunt that Dr. Jan Seski is believed to have gone on.

Melorani Safaris’ Facebook page featured several photos of Dr. Seski on a 2012 hunt. There was a post raving about the doctor’s 10-day hunting adventure and the kills that he made.

“The Melorani team had a fantastic hunt the past 10 days with Dr Seski. Jan harvested some very nice animals, but the highlights of the hunt have to be the Nyala and Giraffe that were Jan’s target species for the hunt. Congratulations to Jan on a very succesfull hunt!!”

In the image seen above this article, the Facebook caption from 2012 reads, “Jan with his well earned Nyala bull.”

Another image below from the same year was captioned, “Jan’s impala ram that we found 2 days after it was initially shot, still alive and kicking. We managed to take him down the 2nd time round!!!”

It’s noted by the New York Daily News that in 2013, Seski’s practice “pleaded guilty to a criminal charge of having caused the introduction of an unapproved drug into interstate commerce and was ordered to pay a $100,000 fine, according to a statement from the U.S. Attorney’s office of the Southern District of California.”

Seski’s practice admitted to ordering $973,795 worth of foreign versions of oncology drugs between December 4, 2008, and May 25, 2011, that were all unapproved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use in the United States.

After the incident of American dentist Walter Palmer hunting down and shooting Cecil the lion, the investigation into Dr. Jan Seski shows how serious Zimbabwe is about cracking down on illegal hunting.

[Photo Credit: Melorani Safaris via Facebook]

Additional links that might be of interest...

Another lion was illegally killed by an American in April, Zimbabwe says

Dr. Jan Seski: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Murrysville doctor probed in Zimbabwe lion killing

Dr Jan Seski is accused of killing lion in illegal hunt in Zimbabwe

 

[Cameray]

Sen. Menendez Announces CECIL Animal Trophies Act to Disincentivize Trophy Killings

Friday, July 31, 2015

WASHINGTON, DC – U.S. Senator Bob Menendez (D-NJ) today announced that he will be introducing the Conserving Ecosystems by Ceasing the Importation of Large (CECIL) Animal Trophies Act to curb the sport killing of species that are proposed to be listed as threatened or endangered under the Endangered Species Act of 1973.

The CECIL Animal Trophies Act is named after an African lion who was allegedly lured outside of a National Park in Zimbabwe earlier this week, shot with an arrow, and tracked for 40 hours while injured before being shot.

“Let’s not be cowardly lions when it comes to trophy killings,” said Sen. Menendez. “Cecil’s death was a preventable tragedy that highlights the need to extend the protections of the Endangered Species Act. When we have enough concern about the future of a species to propose it for listing, we should not be killing it for sport. I’m proud to be joined by my colleagues in introducing this common-sense legislation to take a necessary and prudent step that creates a disincentive for these senseless trophy killings and advances our commitment in leading the fight to combat global wildlife trafficking.”

This legislation is co-sponsored by Senators Cory Booker (D-N.J.), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), and Ben Cardin (D-Md.).

Last year, The United States Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) proposed listing the African Lion as threatened under the Endangered Species Act in October 2014, but has yet to finalize any protections. The CECIL Animals Trophies Act would extend the import and export protections for a species listed under the Endangered Species Act to those that have been proposed for listing, thereby prohibiting the import of any trophies gleaned from Cecil’s death without explicitly obtaining a permit from the Secretary of the Interior.

Full text of the CECIL Animal Trophies Act can be downloaded here.

 

[Cameray]

After Killing of Cecil the Lion, Delta Joins Airline Ban on Game Trophies

The recent killing of a popular lion named Cecil by an American dentist in Zimbabwe sparked considerable outrage on social media and elsewhere against safari hunting. The event has also brought to light the role that airlines play in transporting trophy kills as cargo, and may have contributed to changing airline policy.

On Monday, Delta Air Lines became the latest carrier to change its rules about transporting hunting trophies. Its announcement came as a group of airlines including Air France, KLM, Iberia, IAG Cargo, Singapore Airlines and Qantas signaled last week they would ban the transport of trophy-hunting kills, according to Paul Ferris, the campaign director at SumOfUs.org, a consumer-based petition agency in Brooklyn, which has pressed for changing cargo policies.

“Airlines and other large travel corporations would be foolish to ignore the public reaction to the killing of Cecil the lion, and growing concern about the plight of endangered species,” Mr. Ferris said.

Such a ban was initiated by South African Airways in April, and Emirates, Lufthansa and British Airways later joined. These airlines pledged not to carry big game trophies, including elephants, rhinos, lions and tigers as cargo.

One major holdout had been Delta, which has direct service between the United States and countries in Africa. But bowing to pressure from some travelers and activists, and an online petition on Change.org, Delta changed its position too.

“Effective immediately, Delta will officially ban shipment of all lion, leopard, elephant, rhinoceros and buffalo trophies worldwide as freight,” according to a statement by Morgan Durrant, a Delta spokesman. “Prior to this ban, Delta’s strict acceptance policy called for absolute compliance with all government regulations regarding protected species. Delta will also review acceptance policies of other hunting trophies with appropriate government agencies and other organizations supporting legal shipments.”

 

[Satanica]

I read this morning that United has jumped on board with that as well.

http://bestmobs.com/honor-cecil-lion-buying-htc-one-27497/

If you were moved by the “mindless” killing of Cecil the Lion outside Hwange National Park in Zimbabwe on July 1 2015, Goldgenie, a United Kingdom-based company, renowned for its expensive luxury smartphones and devices like the Apple Watch (costing $164,000), has created a medium by which you can pour out your condolences and regards to the fallen king of the jungle.

[....]
buy Goldgenie’s $2,470-priced HTC One M9 smartphone — complete with a gold plated casing and Goldgenie will send “some” of the proceeds to Hwange National Park, home of Cecil for the last part of the 13-year-old lion’s lifetime.
[....]
Embossed with a picture of the dead lion and “For Cecil and his Kingdom” text in fancy writing, only 99 units of the Cecil HTC One M9 handset were manufactured.

 

[biteme]

I'm still a little suspicious, I'm not saying this isn't what happened, it's the most likely scenario, but I read that this guide was one that Dr Palmer had used repeatedly in the past (though this alone doesn't really mean anything, it could as easily be proof of the opposite; maybe he just keeps going back because this guy keeps producing prey.) But, he also has been charged for shooting a bear in an illegal area and then lying about it. So he's not all that averse to hunting where he shouldn't.

And if you're going to make hunting that much of a hobby, I'd hope you'd put the effort into trying to avoid canned hunts, so I choose not to like the guy either way.

Either way, I think the recent posting about the elephant family killed for ivory is more heartbreaking... and a lot less will likely come of it

ETA: Also from what I've read, Dr Palmer wasn't your average big game tourist, he was a seasoned hunter. Fooling him shouldn't have been very easy.

If baiting is legal in the area he had no way of knowing the animal was drawn out of a protected area
I hunt, fish and eat what I kill, I don't see it any different than eating a mistreated cow, turkey, chicken or duck killed by someone else and bought at the store
I'm not a trophy hunter, I don't believe in killing the best breeders. I don't believe he did anything knowingly illegal, he has the experience and money to pay for a legal hunt.
If baiting animals is legal in the country; he paid for permits and killed the animal in a legal hunting zone, he did nothing wrong
Many records even fishing are done in a ridicules manor by wealthy recognition hungry individuates
The light line marlin records are some of the dumbest records, fisherman gets record
Marlin hits lure, captain backs up boat at full speed, deck hands gaff marlin, fisherman has done nothing but pay for experience and held pole, fisherman gets the record and had nothing do do with the actual catching except pay for it.

 

[biteme]

Cecil sired 24 cubs in his pride. Those cubs are already dead or soon will be. The other males in the pride will kill them to bring the females into estrus and breed their own cubs. Nature red in tooth and claw. <-----Hemmingway

I'd like to do something bad to this asswad, but I'll settle for a long public shaming. I hope he loses all his patients, is shunned by friends and neighbors, disowned by his family and treated like the pos he is.

I wish his home town would put his smug face on a billboard; let the logo read: I kill endangered animals for fun. I woould absolutely be on the sidewalk in front of his house (legally) holding signs calling him a coward.

I also favor pouring "blood"...Karo syrup+red food coloring on his sidewalk...only because I couldn't pour it on him. That would be battery or assault and I'd go to jail...might be worth it. The ASPCA and Peta would bail me out.[/QUOTE
Maybe your energy would be better spent protesting all the people dieing daily over there than one legally killed animal
Not quite how it works, the pride was protected by two males, unless the surviving male can no longer protect the pride alone the cubs will survive. In the wild only the fittest survive that's how its always been, that's how it will always be, when a males losses a fight for the pride the his cubs are killed by the new king, so the females will go into heat and he can breed.
It was no different when these two lions took over, they killed all the cubs in the pride

 

[LurkinLion]

Not quite how it works, the pride was protected by two males, unless the surviving male can no longer protect the pride alone the cubs will survive. In the wild only the fittest survive that's how its always been, that's how it will always be, when a males losses a fight for the pride the his cubs are killed by the new king, so the females will go into heat and he can breed.
It was no different when these two lions took over, they killed all the cubs in the pride

Agreed. Jericho's behavior is not unusual at all. Males form these lifelong partnerships and get each other's backs even after one dies. Once, Cecil and Jericho raided some dead or aging lion's harem. Additionally, if Cecil's own male cubs reached adolescence during his life, he and Jericho ran them out of the pride.

If this lion was not taken legally, either as a way to manage the area's wildlife OR as a way to boost tourism and help keep the humans in the area alive, then I am very sorry he was killed.

In fact, I'm sorry he was killed at all. But I am also practical. The locals in that neck of the woods don't have the luxury of living in the upper reaches of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The majority of them spend each day of their lives a few steps ahead of the reaper. Although I live a simple lifestyle by choice, and do not accumulate wealth, my life is a luxurious one compared to the lives led by so many people. As I sit here in my comfortable, well-lit, bug-free home, sipping clean, safe water from my tap, I am in no position to judge what less fortunate people do in order to simply survive.

 

[biteme]

I read this morning that United has jumped on board with that as well.
buy Goldgenie’s $2,470-priced HTC One M9 smartphone — complete with a gold plated casing and Goldgenie will send “some” of the proceeds to Hwange National Park, home of Cecil for the last part of the 13-year-old lion’s lifetime.
[....]
Embossed with a picture of the dead lion and “For Cecil and his Kingdom” text in fancy writing, only 99 units of the Cecil HTC One M9 handset were manufactured.
http://bestmobs.com/honor-cecil-lion-buying-htc-one-27497/

Now there's a disgusting profit minded company worth protesting, make us millions and we'll send Hwange National Park, a cheap thank you card in Cecil's name and a few pennies

 

[biteme]

Good news, Cecil's brother Jericho has stepped in, and is protecting the cubs. Very rare occurrence, as typically the cubs would be killed by the new alpha male

Jericho shared the pride with Cecil, he's NOT his brother and his protecting the pride and not killing the cubs they sired is not that rare of an occurrence

 

[McDanel]

Jericho shared the pride with Cecil, he's NOT his brother and his protecting the pride and not killing the cubs they sired is not that rare of an occurrence

Correct, the original article I read named Jericho as Cecil's brother, later articles explained the social relationship, yet implied all the cubs were Cecil's.

 

[rod2pop]

You want to impress me, hunt bear with a knife!

That's what I've always said to anybody who will listen. Sitting up in a tree, laying in wait for your prey, with a friggin' rifle or something? Any idiot can do that. If you want to consider yourself a real hunter, show some skill by tracking it and at least give the animal a fighting chance by using, as in your example, a knife or something equitable (claws = knife).

And then there's this "gaming" shit with killing lions, giraffes, and stuff - leave them the fuck alone. You mean to tell me somebody can't come up with a better hobby? You really need to go to all that trouble - spending money, traveling to another continent, etc - to go kill something? Go kill yourself, same as those motherfuckers who do the murder-suicide shit.

Eh, fuck it all, now I'm pissed at the world again.

 

[McDanel]

Husband of a friend of mine actually did hunt bear with a pistol and knife!

 

[biteme]

Of the several things that bother me about this hunt, I'll mention these two. When cutting off Cecil's head and skinning the carcass, might one not wonder about the tracking collar? Second, the Dr. is a bow hunter, and not an especially good one, as it took 40 hours before Cecil was sufficiently near death for the Dr. to walk up and shoot him.

The entire "sport" just seems kind of chicken-shit to me. Of course we can use technology to kill things, we've done it for thousands of years, what's to prove? You want to impress me, hunt bear with a knife!

First off you've added nothing to this discussion except miss-information, you have no idea what you're talking about, he is an especially good bow hunter
Second, who the hell would want to impress you? If you're still in into the stories of Davy Crocket grinning down bears its time to grow up
Third canned hunts happen here all the time for wealthy assholes, especially bow hunters that need to get close to trophy animals, most of the animas are raised on large farms, drugged so the hunter can get a close shot and a record mount, not my gig I think it's a ridicules way to impress people. Restaurants serve Bison, Elk, Venison, Ostrich, alligators, turkey, chicken and so on, probably raised and killed in less humane fashion then the drugged free range animals, but for some Hypocrites any cause will do
Zimbabwe is so corrupt, if Cecil was illegally transported outside the protected park for the hunt I wouldn't be surprised if it was done by government and park officials, 50k goes a long way in Zimbabwe, still doesn't make the dentist guilty of any wrong doing
Again don't agree with canned hunts, but the reaction of a few idiots is even dumber than the hunt

Pigs' feet and paint: Vacation home of man who killed Cecil vandalized
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cecil-the-lion-vandals-attack-vacation-home-of-dentist-who-killed-lion/

 

[Krystal]

Sitting up in a tree, laying in wait for your prey, with a friggin' rifle or something? Any idiot can do that.

Just because I'm in that kind of mood today.

Is that implying that all legal hunters are doing it wrong and idiots? See, where I am many hunters actually either vastly supplement their family's food supply in the winter with deer meat, wild turkeys, even assorted small game or that hunted meat is all a family gets no hunting= no meat. My husband and sons do it and we spend the majority of the winter eating up the deer meat. They are hunters, not idiots.

I am hoping that I am reading more into your post than you intend. While I find what this dentist did to be despicable and I cannot nor will I try to argue otherwise, I fail to see how legal hunting in a tree stand or a blind makes someone an "idiot", my husband and sons don't claim to be "athletes" of some fabulous "sport", they are simply hunters who are helping our family put food on the table for the winter.

 

[biteme]

Husband of a friend of mine actually did hunt bear with a pistol and knife!

Was the bear treed by dogs and he walked up to it and shot it while it was cowering in the tree?
Pretty common to hunt bears and boars with a pistol, so that's Ok in your book but a bow and arrow is chicken shit?

 

[biteme]

Just because I'm in that kind of mood today.

Is that implying that all legal hunters are doing it wrong and idiots? See, where I am many hunters actually either vastly supplement their family's food supply in the winter with deer meat, wild turkeys, even assorted small game or that hunted meat is all a family gets no hunting= no meat. My husband and sons do it and we spend the majority of the winter eating up the deer meat. They are hunters, not idiots.

I am hoping that I am reading more into your post than you intend. While I find what this dentist did to be despicable and I cannot nor will I try to argue otherwise, I fail to see how legal hunting in a tree stand or a blind makes someone an "idiot", my husband and sons don't claim to be "athletes" of some fabulous "sport", they are simply hunters who are helping our family put food on the table for the winter.

Fucking city dwellers that think food is magically created in grocery stores, it's ok to eat a store turkey, but not to go out and kill one for food

 

[biteme]

Correct, the original article I read named Jericho as Cecil's brother, later articles explained the social relationship, yet implied all the cubs were Cecil's.

When was the DNA test done?
Reporters know how to sell, they've become like barkers out in front of strip joints, sensationalize and move product, no actual reporting
One idiot says "brother" they all say brother
One idiot says all cubs to be "killed" they all say cubs will be killed
You can't let the other idiot out sensationalize you or you're product will not sell, everyone jumps on the hot button.
Guess all the people starving to death over there every day is less important than this one lion. Reminds me of the sensationalizing done over the death of Trayvon or Brown while the daily murders in Chicago and Detroit get ignored, whatever sells is the motto

 

[Satanica]

It's fine to kill for food. I just have a problem with killing for sport and trophies.

 

[rod2pop]

Is that implying that all legal hunters are doing it wrong and idiots?

Sorry, Krystal, I wasn't talking about those who hunt animals for food. Heck, my uncle used to do that, and gave us a whole deer each winter.

I was talking about the shitheads who want to show their "superiority" or "prowess" by destroying life for the supposed "thrill" of it.

I guess I should stop writing posts from work 'cause apparently I leave things out in haste. However, at least you were kind enough to question me rather than crucify me.

 

[Krystal]

I was talking about the shitheads who want to show their "superiority" or "prowess" by destroying life for the supposed "thrill" of it.

I was guessing that was more of your intent than how I read it, so I figured I'd ask for clarification before I started hurling the raw hamburger meat.