Deceased Jamie Gao Feared Kidnapped And Killed Had Secret Meeting With Mystery Men 5 Days Ago

[Whisper]

Grave concerns: Jamie Gao, 20, was last seen getting into a white car parked near a fast food restaurant on Arab Road in Padstow in Sydney's south west at about 1.40pm last Tuesday

A Sydney student feared abducted and murdered may have been 'getting himself into trouble' after he went missing from a 'secret meeting' with two unknown men.

Jamie Gao, 20, was last seen getting into a white car parked near a fast food restaurant
[....]
at about 1.40pm last Tuesday after meeting with two young men.

The car left the scene shortly after Mr Gao got into the vehicle and he hasn't been seen since.
[...]
the Hurstville man was excited about the meeting in the lead up to his disappearance.

'It's possible Mr Gao was getting himself into some kind of trouble and indeed may have been getting himself in over his head,'
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Luke Moore said.

'We don't know exactly who he was meeting or the exact purpose of the meeting.

'But the nature of why he was going there - and in fact it was quite secretive - leads us to believe he may have been getting himself into some kind of trouble.'
[....]
are certain the University of Technology Sydney student was abducted and believe he is now dead, despite not finding his body.

Mr Gao's own car, a white Nissan Sylvia sedan, was found abandoned in Padstow later that afternoon.

His mobile phone, keys and wallet were also found nearby.

It is not clear if Mr Gao was forced into the car by the two men, who have been described as being of Asian appearance and aged in their 20s.

'It’s now been five days since anyone has heard from Mr Gao,'
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'We believe he was kidnapped and that those responsible for his kidnapping may have killed him.

'His family and friends are worried sick, and have told us that it is extremely out of character for Mr Gao not to have made contact with anyone for five days.'

Mr Gao's mother, who runs a small business, was overseas on holiday at the time of the abduction
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There has been no ransom note or contact between the family and the people who abducted Mr Gao, who is an only child.

His family have been offered police protection but Det Supt Moore said there was no evidence of threat.

Mr Gao is described as being of Asian appearance, approximately 170 to 175cm tall, of medium build, with black hair and brown eyes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638424/Police-fear-student-kidnapped-Sydney.html

 

[KJkaris]

Hope I'm wrong, but I fear this one isn't going to have a happy ending.

Regardless of what 'trouble' he was getting himself into, he in no way deserves to be a murder VICTIM.

 

[Whisper]

Police find body in the water near Cronulla as ex-cop charged with murder of Sydney student Jamie Gao

• Glen McNamara charged with murder and commercial drug supply
• Police are searching for disgraced former cop Roger Rogerson
• Jamie Gao was last seen getting into a white car in Padstow on Tuesday
• Police say the 20-year-old student was meeting with two unknown men

• Police have found a body in the water near Cronulla during the search for missing Sydney student Jamie Gao.At about 7.30am on Monday morning police responded to reports of a body in the water off Shelly Beach in Cronulla and the body was located by water police shortly before 9am.It has not been confirmed that the body is that of missing 20-year-old Mr Gao.Senior police confirmed this morning they were investigating a suspected drug deal gone wrong as the reason behind Mr Gao's murder.Police are searching for notorious disgraced former policeman Roger Rogerson, 73, to interview him in relation to the student's disappearance.Cronulla man and known associate of Rogerson, former cop Glen McNamara, has been charged with Mr Gao's murder and also large commercial drug supply. Mr Gao was last seen getting into a white car parked near a fast food restaurant on Arab Road in Padstow in Sydney's south west at about 1.40pm last Tuesday after meeting with two young men. Detective Superintendent Luke Moore told reporters on Monday: 'We believe there was a drug transaction and Mr Gao had those drugs with him when he went to the car.'
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  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638424/Police-fear-student-kidnapped-Sydney.html

 

[Whisper]

Notorious disgraced former policeman Roger Rogerson, pictured in 2004, is being sought by police in relation to the disappearance of Sydney student Jamie Gao

Police have charged former detective Glen McNamara with murder and commercial drug supply
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638424/Police-fear-student-kidnapped-Sydney.html#ixzz32mRV3BPc

 

[Piercedprincess666]

Ugh why

 

[mybum62]

How evil these men are!! This guy was in way over his head!! He was very naïve!

 

[Whisper]

twist to the story now
much more at link
EXCLUSIVE: 'The day I was kidnapped and beaten by Jamie Gao': Teen reveals terrifying 90-minute abduction at the hands of murdered Sydney student

• Jaiwei Yu was abducted at a flat in Carlton in Sydney's south on January 9
• The 19-year-old was kidnapped by Jamie Gao and two associates
• Gao was found dead on Monday, allegedly murdered by former Sydney detectives Glen McNamara and Roger Rogerson
• Gao and his associates intended to abduct Alex Li but he wasn't home
• Gao had been called in as an enforcer to 'get revenge' on Alex, 18
• Gao, 20, appeared in Downing Centre Local court on May 13

A body found floating off Shelly Beach near Cronulla was formally identified as Mr Gao on Tuesday afternoon​

The man abducted by murdered student Jamie Gao in January has revealed for the first time his terrifying ordeal after being kidnapped, taken to a park and bashed in the head and chest.​

Gao had been called in as an enforcer to 'get revenge' on 18-year-old Alex Li on behalf of a female friend, who had been dumped by the victim's flatmate, the intended target of the assault.

But when Gao, who was accompanied two teenage associates, arrived at the flat at Carlton in Sydney's south on January 9, Mr Li was not at home – so he abducted Jaiwei Yu, 19, instead.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ced-court-kidnapping-assault-week-murder.html

 

[Valasca]

The Fuck? Stranger than fiction.

 

[Whisper]

The Fuck? Stranger than fiction.

its a movie plot

 

[Valasca]

its a movie plot

I was thinking that.

 

[bigmtn]

weird.

 

[mrcarolinablue823]

Sounds like a Law and Order episode, except they would be Russian Mafia.

 

[witzah]

Will a gun club shed light on the murder of Jamie Gao?

VIDEO footage from a Sydney pub, and weapons held at a local gun club, are being investigated for vital clues to the murder of drug dealer Jamie Gao.

Whoa....I initially thought of him as making one of his first ever drug purchases... until now.

McNamara and disgraced detective Roger Rogerson were charged with murdering UTS business student Gao, 20, whose body was found floating in the sea off Cronulla.

Police allege Gao was shot twice in the chest by McNamara and Rogerson in a rented storage room at Padstow, in Sydney’s southwest, before he was wrapped in a tarpaulin and dumped in the sea.

Gao was allegedly trying to sell $3 million worth of the drug ice to the former detectives. Police believe Gao and McNamara may have met at a Hurstville venue minutes from Gao’s $1.5 million family home.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...der-of-jamie-gao/story-fni0cx12-1226954563940

The University of Technology student was last seen on Tuesday when police will allege he was joined by two others in meeting Mr McNamara and Mr Rogerson in an industrial area at Padstow in Sydney's south-west.

It is understood that the meeting was a prearranged large-scale drug deal in which Mr Gao was to supply three kilograms of the drug ice.

After the men met at Arab Street, police will allege they all went to a nearby location where Mr Gao was murdered.

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/exdetective...hed-ice-deal-police-claim-20140526-zro5x.html

Crazy. ... so it sounds like there were 2 other people with this kid when he met with the officers? Perhaps it was those two he was witnessed getting into a car with and they were on their way to meet with the officers? Two other witnesses (potential suspects)... this truly keeps getting weirder!

 

[witzah]

Murder victim Jamie Gao involved in kidnapping of another man in weeks before his death

• ASHLEE MULLANY
• THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
• JULY 02, 2014 12:00AM

A SYDNEY man kidnapped and assaulted by slain university student Jamie Gao was told to “gang bash” another man and bow down to one of his co-accused during the ordeal, court documents have revealed.

Gao was one of three people charged over the kidnapping and appeared in a Sydney court less than a fortnight before his body was found dumped off Cronulla.

Police will allege the two juveniles were with Gao when he kidnapped a man from his Carlton unit on January 9, took him to a nearby park and assaulted him.

The victim was forced to get on his knees, bow down and “apologise” to one of the accused before he was told to gang bash one of his friends within one week otherwise he would be bashed again and “hospitalised”.

The kidnapping charges are believed to be unrelated to Gao’s death.

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...974316709?nk=dd70e53d9660901a21680ac4a30dd8c1

Whoa. .. this just gets crazier and crazier. Guess Gao lived a more dangerous life than initially recognized. ... though the earlier kidnap may not be legally "related", it sure tells a lot about who thisman was and why this may have happened to him.

 

[witzah]

MURDER victim Jamie Gao had been called to give evidence before a secret hearing at the powerful Australian Crime Commission in the weeks before his death.

The commission, the country’s peak intelligence-gathering agency, took the unprecedented step last week of issuing a statement to deny Gao had been acting as one of their informants when he allegedly delivered $3 million of methamphetamine to former detectives Roger Rogerson and Glen McNamara.

It has been revealed Federal Police had been watching Gao since 2011 as a suspected drug importer.

It denied Gao had been an informant after media speculated the reason detectives were on the trail of Rogerson and McNamara so quickly was because Gao was under surveillance.

It is understood tests have shown Gao was most likely sitting down when he was shot twice at point-blank range in the chest in a Padstow storage unit.

http://mobile.news.com.au/national/...crime-commission/story-fncynjr2-1226939305798

The plot thickens. ..

 

[witzah]

Police say security vision from a storage facility shows the men and their alleged victim walking in to make a drug deal, but only the two older men walk out, carrying a large bag.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/23936537/jamie-gaos-dark-past-revealed/

POLICE believe there is evidence the floor of unit 803 was covered in plastic before the alleged murder of Jamie Gao by ex-detectives Roger Rogerson and Glen McNamara.

Gao was shot twice in the chest with a pistol at point blank range in what police believe was an ambush.

Police will allege the plastic sheets were put down to make cleaning the crime scene at the storage unit easier.

On May 21, the day after Mr Gao was shot, CCTV footage allegedly shows the two men, who have since been charged with Gao’s murder and commercial drug supply, returning to the Rent-A-Space storage facility in Davies Rd, where they spent 40 minutes cleaning up the unit.

Unit 803 was rented within the last few months by a third party, who police believe is not connected to the murder.

http://mobile.news.com.au/national/...-gao-murder-case/story-fncynjr2-1226935188566

Detectives are still hunting for two Hong Kong nationals believed to have fled the country after accompanying Mr Gao to the meeting that led to his death.

Police believe the two young men hold vital clues as to how the drug-dealing business student allegedly became involved with the former detectives.

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...in-student-jamie/story-fni0cx12-1226942960034

 

[Whisper]

A court has heard that Roger Rogerson, pictured, went to the storage unit where student Jamie Gao was allegedly murdered to see why he and Glen McNamara had been in there so long

No bail: Anne Melocco, the wife of former detective Roger Rogerson, who is accused of murdering student Jamie Gao during a $3 methylamphetamine drug deal, leaves Central Local Court on Monday following her husband's failed application for bail. Rogerson's lawyer offered up Ms Melocco and Rogerson's marital home and a holiday house as $1.5m surety

Former detectives Roger Rogerson and Glenn McNamara can be seen dragging the dead body of Jamie Gao on his back to a car minutes after they murdered him
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Crown Prosecutor Christopher Maxwell QC in Central Local Court contends.

In the footage, Rogerson and McNamara can be seen taking what appears to be a heavy object wrapped in a bag from the Rent-a-Space storage unit
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at around 2pm on May 20 this year.

'The body's dragged on its back,' Mr Maxwell said, describing the footage as it was played to the court.

'Both appear to take part in the lifting of the body.'

Mr Maxwell showed dramatic scenes captured on security footage in what he says was an organised plan from the start to murder 20-year-old Mr Gao in the storage unit.

He played the footage in pleading the Crown case to oppose a bail application by Mr Rogerson
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Rogerson's lawyer, George Thomas, offered the 'matrimonial home' and a holiday house owned by the former detective and his wife, Anne Melocco, who was in court on Monday as surety for bail, which was formally refused
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Mr Maxwell said Rogerson, who appeared in the court via audio visual link from Silverwater remand prison
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'had control and access to the scene of the killing'.

Mr Maxwell said a prison phone call between Rogerson and his wife, Anne Melocco, since his arrest suggested Rogerson would be arguing that he had only intervened in whatever had happened between Jamie Gao and McNamara in the storage unit after the shooting to give some 'grandfatherly advice'
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Rogerson told Ms Melocco 'well they'd been there a fair while Anne. I thought I'd go over there and see what's happening.

'I thought i might be able to give a bit of a hand, a bit of old grandfatherly advice.'

Rogerson, dressed in prison greens, sat shuffling papers and reading notes in the prison during the hearing
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In part of the footage - which shows McNamara and Gao enter together through the door of one of a row of cream coloured storage units, later followed by Rogerson - the three men are inside the unit for nine minutes.
Following this, McNamara can be seen taking a surfboard bag into the unit.

Rogerson - who appears to hobble or limp each time he moves on foot - emerges to move his vehicle.

'Mr Rogerson ... brings his car over to shield them bringing the dead body out,'
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showing footage of Rogerson parking his car behind Mc Namara's outside the unit.

Rogerson, 73, and Glenn McNamara, 55, are charged with murdering of university student Mr Gao, whose body was found wrapped in a tarpaulin floating in the sea
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May 26, a week after he was reported missing.

Police allege the University of Technology Sydney student was shot in a storage facility by McNamara and Rogerson during a botched drug deal involving 3kg of methylamphetamine on May 20.
[..]
Barrister George Thomas, for Rogerson, suggested a struggle between McNamara and Mr Gao might have ensued before Rogerson entered the storage facility.

He said there was between three and four minutes that the two were in there, 'enough time for a killing to take place'.
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Magistrate Mabbutt refused a bail application by McNamara, who offered $580,000 in a surety to be effectively 'under house arrest'.

Jamie Gao was already dead and on the floor following a struggle with a firearm by the time Roger Rogerson entered a storage unit
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Rogerson's barrister told Central Local Court.
He said on entering the storage unit, 'a man was already on the ground, deceased' and McNamara told Rogerson there had been a struggle.

Mr Thomas said Mr Gao's two bullet wounds - one of which was '150mm down from the nipple' and both of which showed had been made in a ' downward trajectory' - could not have been made by Rogerson who was shorter than Mr Gao.
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Rogerson had helped to remove Mr Gao's body from the unit, but had not been involved in the dumping at sea by Mc Namara.

Last month the case was facing some delays as fingerprints, DNA evidence and CCTV footage were still being compiled in the murder case against former NSW detectives Roger Rogerson and Glen McNamara
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They have also been accused of commercial drug supply.
Lawyer Paul Kenny, for Rogerson, 73, did not require him to be videoed in from Silverwater Correctional Centre in July, while McNamara, 55, is in Goulburn prison.
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Central Local Court heard that up to five weeks was needed to assemble fingerprint evidence from the crime scene and DNA testing of clothing.

Evidence to be presented in the case included analysis of methylamphetamines allegedly found in McNamara's car.

However, although a postmortem had been completed on Mr Gao, there was a six-to-nine-month delay at the Sydney morgue on the autopsy report.

Police allege the University of Technology Sydney student was shot in a storage facility by McNamara and Rogerson during a botched drug deal
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McNamara was charged and faced Kogarah Local Court on May 26. Rogerson was arrested amid a media frenzy outside his home in the western Sydney suburb of Padstow the following day.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ge-unit-Jamie-Gao-murdered.html#ixzz3BNMb9x3Y

 

[CLouise]

The trial started yesterday and this afternoon the entire jury was discharged for reasons as yet unknown.

Jamie Gao death: Roger Rogerson and Glen McNamara hatched murder plot to kill student, court hears
In his opening address, crown prosecutor Chris Maxwell told the court CCTV cameras captured Mr Gao entering the Rent A Space storage unit at 1:45pm on May 20.

At 2:18pm on the same day, the same footage showed Rogerson and McNamara emerging from the storage unit, dragging a silver surfboard bag and lifting it into a station wagon.
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"What is abundantly clear is that Mr Gao was shot down behind closed doors at a point in time during this period," he said.

He told the jury the crown would not be able to establish which of the accused men was the shooter, but said that was not necessary to prove their guilt.

"Both were part of a joint criminal enterprise to kill, or cause serious injury, to Jamie Gao," he said

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-...ogerson-and-glen-mcnamara-go-on-trial/6651308

Day 2 This morning

Jamie Gao murder trial: Lawyer for Glen McNamara says Roger Rogerson shot student in 'cold blood'
In an opening address to the jury, defence barrister Charles Waterstreet, representing McNamara, said it was Rogerson who shot Gao twice in the shed and then threatened to kill his client.

He said McNamara's actions after Gao's death were undertaken in the shadow of that threat.

Mr Waterstreet said his client had "good cause to be afraid" and that Rogerson also threatened to kill McNamara's two daughters.
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The defence also said McNamara had "no idea" that Rogerson would bring a gun to the shed.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-28/jamie-gao-trial-hears-rogerson-shot-student-not-mcnamara

 

[CLouise]

The media hasn't been given permission to report why the jury was discharged, only say its for quote '"legal reasons". Could they be vaguer? I think so...

On the second day of the Supreme Court trial on Tuesday, Justice Geoffrey Bellew told the 15-person jury that it was with 'some regret that I make an order to discharge you'.

'Sometimes these things happen. It's very unfortunate when they do.'

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/07/28/gao-murder-trial-jury-discharged.html

 

[Alf]

This is a WAG* . . .

The two sides are working out a plea deal, where the killers plead guilty to voluntary manslaughter (or something similar) in exchange for the possibility of getting out of prison in four or five years.

This is another WAG . . .

One side or the other said something during their opening address that the judge feels has more inflammatory value than probative value, or said something that the judge specifically and explicitly ruled out of bounds during preliminary motions.

--Al

* Wild-ass guess

 

[CLouise]

This is a WAG* . . .
The two sides are working out a plea deal, where the killers plead guilty to voluntary manslaughter (or something similar) in exchange for the possibility of getting out of prison in four or five years.

This is another WAG . . .
One side or the other said something during their opening address that the judge feels has more inflammatory value than probative value, or said something that the judge specifically and explicitly ruled out of bounds during preliminary motions.
--Al
* Wild-ass guess

Ding ding, it was the later. Confirmed by the Daily Telegraph front page today, that it was because McNamara's lawyer told the jury it was Rogerson who shot Jamie "in cold blood". They've definitely turned on each other now.

 

[Apryl]

Nope, I don't think they have turned on each other at all! I think this is their final ploy to get out of a murder charge. What better way? Blame each other! They obviously have no way of knowing which one did it or they would have already specifically charged him. Nope, this is was their "plan B"

 

[CLouise]

Trial has been put off til early 2016, Glen McNamara's lawyer (who is well known especially now there is a semi-autobiographical tv series based on his life/work called Rake) was forced to withdraw from the case.

Prominent Sydney barrister Charles Waterstreet has been referred for possible contempt of court proceedings over social media posts.

The Supreme Court of New South Wales has heard a captioned photo of Mr Waterstreet and another person was recently posted on Instagram and Twitter.

After the posts were brought to his attention in court, Mr Waterstreet withdrew his representation for Glen McNamara, who, together with Roger Rogerson, is awaiting trial for the murder of Jamie Gao in Sydney.
...
McNamara will be now be represented by Senior Counsel Greg Smith, the state's former Attorney-General.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-14/charles-waterstreet-referred-contempt-court-tweet

 

[CbabyRKO]

What a load of shit. I hope they keep these OAP's locked away til the trial starts and that wife as well.
They killed a kid over a drug deal their old asses had no business involved in. What happened, the police pension wasn't enough for your greedy ass had to get into drugs too? That's where these jackasses always fuck up.

 

[CLouise]

Jury came back about 30 minutes ago (after starting deliberations on 2nd of June)

Jamie Gao murder trial: Roger Rogerson, Glen McNamara found guilty of killing student
Rogerson, 75, and co-accused McNamara, 57, had pleaded not guilty to murdering Gao at a Padstow storage facility on May 20, 2014, and dumping his body in waters off Cronulla the next day.
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McNamara's defence told the trial it was Rogerson who shot and killed Gao before threatening McNamara and his family, forcing him to help dispose of the body.

Rogerson claimed the 20-year-old was killed during a struggle with McNamara and the student was dead on the floor when he entered the shed.

Prosecutors told the court the crown did not have to prove which of the defendants killed Gao, but that there was an agreement to kill or seriously injure the victim

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-15/jamie-gao-murder-trial


Some gifs at this link of all the CCTV evidence, they really bungled every step of their how-to-get-away-with-murder plot. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-15/roger-rogerson-glen-mcnamara-convicted-of-jamie-gao-murder/7474010

 

[mybum62]

For all their experience...they were really stupid.

 

[Brenni]

Sounds like the whole bunch are a bunch of scumbags
.... Including the dead kid