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This poor little girl suffered and she suffered badly for months. Every adult person in her life failed her.

That step mom was let off way too easy with her plea bargain. I didn't read this whole thread but I did follow the case closely months ago.
The step mom said she was stomping on her while she screamed "I hate you. you ruined my life." that makes he so sad. Poor little girl.
 
This case and the case of Myls stick with me. I think it's because their abusers explained just how badly they tortured them. They're monsters.
 
HONOLULU (AP) — Jurors are taking too long to deliberate the fate of a former Hawaii-based soldier facing the death penalty for killing his 5-year-old daughter, defense attorneys said in a motion that calls for a mistrial in the first capital murder trial since Hawaii became a state.

The motion filed Monday seeks a mistrial because the federal jury has not been able to reach a decision on Naeem Williams' sentence after "extraordinarily long deliberations in a comparatively simple capital case." . . .

Prosecutors said in a filing late Tuesday that the jury hasn't indicated that it won't be able to agree on a sentence and the court shouldn't interfere with deliberations.

The defense attorneys speculate that the jury is fatigued, saying other death penalty cases have been more complex and jurors reached a verdict after several days, or even hours.

"There is no doubt that the effects of exhaustion and coercion are of paramount importance in the present case," the motion said, adding that jurors sat through 41 days of trial and deliberated both the guilt and penalty phases.

The defense attorneys fear "exhaustion of the jury" might lead some members "to vote for a verdict which they would otherwise not support."

Their motion also argues that deliberations have twice been interrupted for two lengthy breaks because of scheduling issues, making it possible for jurors to be exposed to outside influences or information about the case.

Defense lawyers say they have uncovered information that at least one juror violated court orders during deliberations. The motion says a juror posted information online. They are asking to provide details to the judge in private to protect juror privacy. The motion doesn't detail the claim but says jurors should be questioned about it.

If a mistrial isn't declared, defense attorneys would like a "directed verdict" of a life sentence or at least to question jurors. They want to ask jurors about possible exposure to the case during breaks, the juror who may have violated orders and whether it's likely they can reach a unanimous verdict if they resume deliberations.
http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Defense-Death-penalty-decision-taking-too-long-5576205.php
 
A former Hawaii soldier convicted of killing his 5-year-old daughter will spend the rest of his life behind bars after a federal jury announced Friday they failed to agree on his sentence in the first death penalty trial in the history of Hawaii's statehood.


Jurors deliberated for about seven days before telling the judge they were deadlocked on Naeem Williams' sentence. That means the judge will give Williams life in prison without the possibility of release.

Williams showed no visible reaction when the jury's decision was read. He sat at the defense table wearing a light blue, long-sleeved dress shirt and black slacks. Court staff, reporters and other observers packed the courtroom.

U.S. District Judge J. Michael Seabright is scheduled to impose the sentence during a later hearing.
[...]
Hawaii's territorial government abolished capital punishment in 1957. But Talia was killed on military property so Williams was tried in the federal system, which allows the death penalty.
http://news.yahoo.com/former-soldier-life-jury-deadlocks-194935452.html
 
The defense attorneys speculate that the jury is fatigued, saying other death penalty cases have been more complex and jurors reached a verdict after several days, or even hours.

how is that, when this is
the first death penalty trial in the history of Hawaii's statehood.
 
"The couple brought Talia to Hawaii in December. By January, her natural mother, from her hometown, was already trying to complain to the Army that she was being denied court-ordered telephone access to her daughter.

"It just terrifies me and I am so hurt right now that if somebody had try and get in contact with me, she would be alive today," Tarshia Williams said.

Tarshia Williams said Talia's stepmother, Delilah Sun Williams, would curse her on the phone. She said she recorded a call when Delilah told her Talia would not be coming home as ordered on July 1. . . .

Delilah Williams worked for Army Community Services, the agency that investigates child abuse in hawaii"

The mother is a liar. She says she was trying and denied contact....then says if somebody had tried to contact her...

The STEP mother should be UNDER the jail! She worked previously at an ER and was currently working for the agency that investigates child abuse...She should be on death row as well!!! NO DEALS!!! Sounds like there was enough evidence in the house and a dead baby that were evidence to convict them BOTH!!! They killed this baby together!!
AAAAaaaaarrrggggghhhhhhh!!!
 
First of all to the individual that stated the military weren't responsible for reporting the child in question was being abused, well I hate to burst your bubble but it was absolutely their responsibility and duty to report it. I don't fault the biological mom for filing a lawsuit, because they did have an obligation not only to the child but to the entire nation of which they are fighting for, but if her bio mom knew or even suspected her daughter was being abused why didn't she do more? Everyone that knew, or suspected she was being abused not only failed her when she was alive, but even so after she died. Shame on everyone!!

I fault the mother because SHE did not handle her business when her child was in the system to get her back and take care of her!! There is NO way the system takes my child due to thinking she is not being taken care of well and then I DON'T DO or JUMP THROUGH WHATEVER HOOPS THEY HAVE SET UP FOR ME!!!! Tarshia is just as ignorant and at fault as they other two Williamses of Talia's death! IF ANY OF THESE FUCKERS HAD BEEN MORE CONCERNED WITH THIS CHILD'S NEEDS THAN THEIR OWN SELFISHNESS TALIA WOULD BE HERE!!!!!

IF Talia had all these developmental issues, why weren't the courts made aware by ANY doctors??!! I call bullshit and that most of her 'developmental issues were due to underdevloped 'parents'.

Even if CPS took Talia for the wrong reasons, Tarshia had the opportunity to get her back and pissed it away! Talia was with the husband's grandmother and Tarshia must have been cool with that but pissed when custody went to the ex who was now somebody else's! That stepmother should be facing the death penalty too!!! She is the worst of the worst! I hope and pray that someone exceptional is taking care of their precious baby and that while that child is happy and healthy, Mrs. Williams is having nightmares of what she dealt to Talia happneing to her own 'precious' when she could not see the precious in Talia~! She is the worst kind of manipulative controlling piece of shit!

I feel for Talia and her great-grandmother who is hopefully someone who took care of her and kept her safe for that short period of her life.
 
I fault the mother because SHE did not handle her business when her child was in the system to get her back and take care of her!! There is NO way the system takes my child due to thinking she is not being taken care of well and then I DON'T DO or JUMP THROUGH WHATEVER HOOPS THEY HAVE SET UP FOR ME!!!! Tarshia is just as ignorant and at fault as they other two Williamses of Talia's death! IF ANY OF THESE FUCKERS HAD BEEN MORE CONCERNED WITH THIS CHILD'S NEEDS THAN THEIR OWN SELFISHNESS TALIA WOULD BE HERE!!!!!

IF Talia had all these developmental issues, why weren't the courts made aware by ANY doctors??!! I call bullshit and that most of her 'developmental issues were due to underdevloped 'parents'.

Even if CPS took Talia for the wrong reasons, Tarshia had the opportunity to get her back and pissed it away! Talia was with the husband's grandmother and Tarshia must have been cool with that but pissed when custody went to the ex who was now somebody else's! That stepmother should be facing the death penalty too!!! She is the worst of the worst! I hope and pray that someone exceptional is taking care of their precious baby and that while that child is happy and healthy, Mrs. Williams is having nightmares of what she dealt to Talia happneing to her own 'precious' when she could not see the precious in Talia~! She is the worst kind of manipulative controlling piece of shit!

I feel for Talia and her great-grandmother who is hopefully someone who took care of her and kept her safe for that short period of her life.

I just dont think that's the case here. A lot of people don't know their rights as parents.. there's an enormous amount of children taken because CPS or whatever knocked on their door with an officer escorting and said "we're taking your child because insert bullshit reason here" . Happens daily. She stated she didn't have the money for a lawyer, they would've been able to inform her that CPS or whatever in that area, can never take your child from you. Police must come to your door with a court order for such. Unless, you let them. She may not have had access to a computer where she could look this information up. She also stated he had a wife, they just had a baby, and its a more stable environment in the courts eyes. The system is shitty, as you can plainly tell from them never even following up on the case after talking with the step-monster one time. I've heard a lot of accounts of the system taking a child from a perfectly good home, and putting them with someone who ends up killing them. It's not impossible. There's a ton of those stories on this site. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt until i see or hear different.
 
I just dont think that's the case here. A lot of people don't know their rights as parents.. there's an enormous amount of children taken because CPS or whatever knocked on their door with an officer escorting and said "we're taking your child because insert bullshit reason here" . Happens daily. She stated she didn't have the money for a lawyer, they would've been able to inform her that CPS or whatever in that area, can never take your child from you. Police must come to your door with a court order for such. Unless, you let them. She may not have had access to a computer where she could look this information up. She also stated he had a wife, they just had a baby, and its a more stable environment in the courts eyes. The system is shitty, as you can plainly tell from them never even following up on the case after talking with the step-monster one time. I've heard a lot of accounts of the system taking a child from a perfectly good home, and putting them with someone who ends up killing them. It's not impossible. There's a ton of those stories on this site. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt until i see or hear different.

I hear what you are saying and I agree that SOME cases do fall under those circumstances...I don't see that here. It states that Tarshia did not complete the terms of getting her child back in the home while she is now claiming Talia was her sole priority. That is an impossibility. Whatever a person decides is their priority is the one thing that should be acomplished above all else. Especially once the person is aware that they are a parent and as thus is the sole line of defense and protection for the child they made. eehhh

I know the system as I was neglected and abandned at 2 years old, then in and out of foster care even after being adopted....I intimately know the games and tricks that go on to get children in and out of the CPS system....
 
Because of her testimony and a binding plea agreement, [Delilah] Williams will be sentenced to 20 years in prison, including nine years already served, in federal court in Honolulu on Tuesday, a prosecutor and her defense attorney said.

And her acknowledged role in the abuse helped keep her husband Naeem Williams from receiving the death penalty after he was convicted of murder. He is scheduled to be sentenced in October. . . .

Federal public defender Alexander Silvert, who represents Delilah Williams, had expected her guilty plea to a murder charge to have a major impact on the jury hearing the case against her husband. During the penalty phase of his trial, eight jurors wanted him executed; four sought life in prison. . . .

Jurors said they considered many different factors in reaching their individual decisions.

In the end, jurors agreed the decision before them involved Naeem Williams, not his wife, Mata said. "The bottom line came down to she didn't do the last blow," he said.

Prosecutors say Naeem Williams delivered a deadly punch on July 16, 2005, that left knuckle imprints on Talia's chest. He testified that he beat her that day in part because she spit toothpaste all over the sink.

"I went for death," Mata said, noting that he had considered testimony about childhood abuse of the defendant. "Though it was a hard decision because I understand his past of him being abused and him having a psycho wife ... had that influence."

Fellow juror Betty Jane Auten said she considered the influence of Delilah Williams on her husband, "but Naeem could have stopped Delilah at any time from hurting his child."

Some jurors said her plea deal was unfair. . . .

When jurors were finally able to discuss the case with each other, they unloaded their feelings about the horrible things done to the child.

"People were crying, screaming, just getting out all the emotion that we had to keep in for so long," Mata said.

When Delilah Williams, 30, completes the remainder of her sentence, she'll be about 40.

"Given her conduct (at the Honolulu Federal Detention Center), she's probably not going to get a lot of good behavior credit," Silvert said.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/jurors-stepmoms-role-helped-husband-avoid-death-24460558

So, she's been a bad girl in prison, too. I bet she thinks she's queen bee.
 
These people are disgusting to such an extreme degree. My whole body hurts from reading this story. I feel so bad for that poor little girl. I couldn't even begin to imagine what pain mentally and physically she went through on a daily basis. I'm trying to picture how hard someone would have to stomp on a child to break their bones or push on their stomach while on the toilet to the point of breaking a pipe. My mind cannot comprehend. Why did he want her? It's so obvious he hated her along with his ugly dumbass wife. These "people" don't deserve to breathe the same air as us. If there's a hell, they're going there for sure.
 
U.S. District Judge J. Michael Seabright likened Naeem Williams' treatment of the girl to a "house of horrors" and said testimony from the trial still haunts those who heard it.

Williams' sentencing capped what was the first death penalty case to go to trial in Hawaii since it became a state. A jury deadlocked on his punishment, requiring Seabright to give him a life term.

Hawaii's territorial government abolished capital punishment in 1957. But the U.S. Department of Justice was able to seek the death penalty because the 2005 crime took place on military property, and the cased was tried in federal court, where the death penalty is possible even in states that don't allow it.

During a long and emotional trial last year, jurors heard graphic testimony — including from Williams — about how he and the girl's stepmother, Delilah Williams, beat the girl almost daily during the seven months she lived with them in Hawaii.

A federal prosecutor told jurors that the fatal blow the former soldier dealt daughter Talia was so hard it left knuckle imprints on the child's chest.

Naeem Williams testified he beat the girl often, partly because of her bathroom accidents.

Delilah Williams recounted stomping on Talia and other abuses, including withholding food for days. The stepmother was sentenced to 20 years in prison last year as part of a plea agreement.

Jurors who convicted Naeem Williams of murder were asked to decide his sentence — execution or life in prison without the possibility for release. They deliberated for about seven days before determining they were deadlocked.

Five of the jurors were at the sentencing. Two of them said afterward that they felt compelled to attend as closure after months of disturbing testimony that still haunts them.

"Anyone who sat through this trial will have lasting memories," Seabright said. "Memories that will be difficult to lose."

He recounted hearing how Talia was duct-taped to a bed and then beaten.

"I remember listening to that testimony and thinking this courthouse has never heard testimony like that before," Seabright said.

Jurors also heard about how Talia slept on the floor of a stripped-bare bedroom, received belt whippings and was left alone during the day in a home Seabright described as a "house of horrors."

"She was treated worse than any animal should ever be treated," the judge said.

Even though the sentence was a foregone conclusion, the hearing was more about Talia, he said: "This is really Talia's day, in many ways, for her voice to be heard and for her to receive justice ... almost 10 years after she was killed."

Naeem Williams declined to speak in court before the sentence was imposed.

During the sentencing phase of the case last year, Naeem Williams implored jurors to let him live, saying he wanted to be a better father to his two other children. The children also asked jurors to spare his life.

One of his attorneys, John Philipsborn, said Naeem Williams doesn't intend to appeal. Doing so could expose him to another death penalty trial.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-soldier-gets-life-sentence-5-old-daughters-193814976.html
 
Naeem Williams implored jurors to let him live, saying he wanted to be a better father to his two other children.
Oh, I don't think you'll be anything but an absentee father to your children, now. Even if you got the death penalty, you'd have years to not be there for them, and to think about that. Wonder who'll have custody of them . . . if they're being treated with compassion . . .
 
I can only hope that bastard receives beatings daily....his food is taken from him for days...and he is treated with the same compassion that his lovely perfect daughter was treated with. May they both roast in the worst kind of hell here and in the hereafter.
 
Naeem Williams implored jurors to let him live, saying he wanted to be a better father to his two other children.
You know, I'm pretty sure that Talia would have loved a better father herself but since you decided to take that opportunity from her, I say, FUCK YOU, and FUCK YOU SOME MORE, I hope you burn in HELL!
 
OK, just so I understand the mentality of this stepmonster.. She stopped beating the girl for showing signs of aggression, and left her wet knowing the dad would beat her? Did it occur to the lazy bitch to get her dry before daddy dearest came home to save her a beating? Ugh! And where the hell should a little one spit toothpaste, if not in the sink? And beating a child then going to get her nails done??? WTF? Soulless bitch!
 
This poor baby was failed and now mother is looking for a payday how about some time dwelling on the fact you didn't even raise your daughter they all deserve death
 
QUOTE="Krystal, post: 877873, member: 8305"]You know, I'm pretty sure that Talia would have loved a better father herself but since you decided to take that opportunity from her, I say, FUCK YOU, and FUCK YOU SOME MORE, I hope you burn in HELL![/QUOTE]



If I was a jurors and he said to please let him live so he can be a better dad to his 2 other kids.. That would convince me to give him the death penalty because I would not want him to have any influence on any kids.. Ever.. I cringe at the thought of him twisting his daughters heads up with his kind of sick thinking... The best way to protect those kids is to kill him..
 
HONOLULU — The U.S. government will pay an Atlanta woman $2 million for the Hawaii beating death of her 5-year-old daughter at the hands of a former soldier.
The settlement amount was announced Tuesday at a brief hearing in federal court in Honolulu.
Tarshia Williams filed the lawsuit against the government over the 2005 death of her daughter, Talia. The lawsuit, filed in Honolulu in 2008, claimed the military didn't report to the proper authorities that Talia's father and stepmother "abused and tortured" her throughout the seven months she lived in Army housing in Hawaii.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...of-girl-5-by-former-soldier-father/ar-BBkgLLy
 
...this bio mom was able to fight and win money for her childs death ...If ONLY the mom had tried as hard to jump through the hoops cps expects to get her child back as well as force the dad to let her see the child when he had custody...than this lil girls life could have been saved... Why do people work harder when money is the reward ?? I would give a gazillion dollars and work my ass till I literally fell over to get just 1 more minute of any of my kids lives..<3
 
So many people failed her. I hope they both get the life sentences that the federal government give out. They earned it. The mom is too fucken quick to ask for money, I don't know how this woman lost custody of her daughter but if she didn't fight for custody she needs to go away quietly.
I completely agree.i hate when the absent parent all of a sudden makes an appearance after a child dies when theres nothing they can do to help that innocent baby anymore.I am part Chinese..a little...and believe me when I say it doesn't surprise me if this stepmother took a lead role in the abuse.they can be extremely vicious.alot of the Asian girls are raised with a heavy hand.
 
The majority (if not all) the money should be put into a trust for any siblings that Talia had. For college, or even just adulthood.

Any of her siblings and Talia were the only true, 100% innocent victims in all this. The father and his wife (I refuse to sully the term stepmom on her) are fucking monsters and the bio mom had some serious faults too, not necessarily in losing custody but in failing to complete the requirements needed to regain custody of Talia.
 
The stepmother said the day Talia died, the girl walked backward out of her bedroom, during a belt-beating from her father, with her hands in front of her saying things like "no daddy," and "can we stop now?"

Delilah Williams said the girl and her father were out of her view when she heard the thump of what sounded like a body hitting the floor. She said she later saw Talia on her back, with stiff arms. She told her husband to put water on her in the bathtub so that, "maybe she'll snap out of it."

But Talia started wheezing and the stepmother told the father, "she's faking. Just leave her alone," Delilah Williams said.

Williams said she came home from work that day and saw that Talia had wet herself. "I started stomping on her," she said. "I just continued stomping on her until it felt like a bone cracked under my foot and she defecated on herself."

She forced the child to sit on a toilet and pushed on her stomach so hard that a toilet pipe broke, causing a leak. She said she then grabbed Talia by the hair and slammed her head against a wall.

"I left to get my nails done," she said.

It wasn't the first time she grabbed the child by the hair, she said, describing a time when she pulled Talia by the hair at the top of her head because she was slow going up the stairs. "A big chunk of her hair" came out, she said.

She also described another incident when her husband punched the child in the stomach for eating a doughnut. The girl wasn't allowed to go downstairs to eat while she was home alone, Delilah Williams said.
This may be the single damn worst thing I've ever read on this site.

The images I get in my head of what this darling experienced are beyond horror, pain, darkness and fear. God bless you and keep you sweetheart. I know not everyone here will agree with me, but I do believe in an afterlife, and I believe you are at peace. I also know those who did this will one day be required to answer for it. And even if you don't believe in an afterlife, I'm sure that's a nice thought for everyone.
 
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